B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat

[backhometome]

Katie has awful instincts.  🙄

Can one person on this show not parent trap their grown parents for once. Its such a tired overused trope. So sick of it. Bill/Katie are the worst next to Steffy/Liam couple wise.

 

3 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

top three longest uninterrupted marriages in all of B&B canon

Who are the other 2 longest married couples?

[Js Nana]

On 9/9/2024 at 11:31 PM, KerleyQ said:

Does any parent/child relationship on this show have even minimally appropriate boundaries?

Back in the 50s, when soap operas started airing on television, you had older characters who had gone through their own trials and tribulations learning what the boundaries should be and who suffered great angst over the behavior of the younger characters, who had yet to learn what the boundaries were.

[ByTor]

Nevermind

 

Edited September 13 by ByTor
Not worth it although it would have felt good

[Lilac2000]

6 hours ago, backhometome said:

Katie has awful instincts.  🙄

Can one person on this show not parent trap their grown parents for once. Its such a tired overused trope. So sick of it. Bill/Katie are the worst next to Steffy/Liam couple wise.

 

Who are the other 2 longest married couples?

I'm late to the BB party but I'm guessing Eric and Quinn and Eric and Stephanie?

[Waldo13]

Will is such a downer much like Liam. They both are a waist of air time as is Finn and Stuffy. 

Brooke give it up.  Please stop the same old same old drum beat especially when you are an unaware hypocrite.  As much as Hope is in competition Stuffy, Brooke is in competition with Taylor.  

Once again I have to say the Carter is out of his lane. As COO he has nothing to do with financial projection. As a former CFO, that was my job and I actually resent how Carter is portrayed by the monkeys with a keyboard. 

What the major fuck?  Finn and Taylor are in the office where HFTF is being discussed but why isn’t Brooke there?  You would think the pseudo Foresters and Carter would call Brooke into the office.  After all isn’t she a CO-CEO.  Hold the phone, they will be calling Brooke and Hope into the office to make the decision so why is Taylor and Finn still in the office. It’s none of their fucking business. They don’t work for FC.  I guess Stuffy needs an audience.  I thought Ridge was just a designer and yet he gets a vote. The decision is actually between Stuffy and Brooke. Ridge and Carter basically can only advise.  

So with Bill it’s out with the new and in with the old.  Bill I thought that you were pledging undying devotion to Poppy and Luna. The beds aren’t even cold yet and he’s looking to get back together with Katie.  Bill at least get Luna a lawyer. That’s the least you can do. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[GHScorpiosRule]

14 minutes ago, Waldo13 said:

Bill at least get Luna a lawyer. That’s the least you can do.

Why? She’s not his daughter. She manipulated the original test to make it see he was her father. She murdered two people and framed her mother for said murders. He doesn’t owe her a damn thing.

Oh how I was hoping Carter and Ridge’s morose faces would be a fake out. And that instead of saying the numbers weren’t good, but great! As they picked up on the back of the success of the new Brooke’s bedroom line! If only to see Steffy’s head explode and jaw drop in DUH?! And a:

 

But I can’t have nice things. Between this show and the FAKAKTA General Hospital, my head is exploding and I’m having RAGE BLACKOUTS!

[CharlizeCat]

I couldn't believe how unprofessional and inappropriate it was for Steffy to insist that her mother and Her Husband remain in the room during the HFTF meeting. The same goes for Brooke. If Steffy wasn't a nepo baby and worked for a regular corporation, she would have been fired ages ago. I can think of much better descriptors for that viper than "bossy" and "a little vindictive." A little? 

It was just evil and vindictive and just another way to punish and humiliate Hope. Hope's strange behavior and dismissive attitude towards Brooke's concerns have me convinced that the brain tumor (or other malady) resurrection SL for Hope is soon coming. Otherwise, the character seems lost in her own identity and I don't even know who Hope is or what she stands for anymore.

And if memory serves me correctly, Brooke used that same strategy when Ridge was married to Taylor. Brooke "understands" Ridge better than anybody else. Brooke "appreciates" Ridge in ways that Taylor can never live up to, etc., etc. 

Having history rewrite itself with the younger generation and using practically verbatim dialogue is lazy writing and insulting to us long-term viewers. 

I don't like nuWill. I don't think that guy's a very good actor. He came from Y&R, correct? He can go back. 

Edited September 14 by CharlizeCat

[RuntheTable]

Oh, I feel a time out coming on..........

[NinjaPenguins]

I thought Forrester Creations was a legitimate business, but it turns out that it’s actually the front for a Hayes-Marone cult compound. Who knew?

I will trade both Will and Liam for Wyatt right now, no questions asked. 

[Peppermint]

@CharlizeCat ...LOL...NuWill kinda did come from Y&R since he is Josh Morrow's real life son. Hopefully he is just a placeholder character until NuWill goes back to college. Then Y&R can return Noah back to the USA with Crew Morrow in the part. He may not be a great actor [IMHO none of the adult Noahs have been such] but he sure will LOOK the part !!

Now, back to our regularly scheduled dreck....

[norcalgal]

40 minutes ago, Peppermint said:

NuWill kinda did come from Y&R since he is Josh Morrow's real life son. 

Huh, I didn’t know that.  In some twisty bizarro world, nuWill could have played Katie’s nephew instead of her son.  Heather Tom and Josh Morrow did portray siblings on Y&R, right?  Or did HT already leave by the time Morrow was cast as Nick Newman? 

[KerleyQ]

4 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

I will trade both Will and Liam for Wyatt right now, no questions asked. 

I was just saying last night, can we please get Wyatt back? He's the only one of Bill's kids who doesn't suck.  And then I came up with this whole never going to happen scenario where Brooke, Hope, Donna, Katie, and RJ leave FC to form their own company, financially backed by Bill, with Wyatt coming back to work with them. And, since it would be Spencer backed, Liam could also work there a little, only because I'd enjoy how much that would piss Steffy off. They could maybe even recast Rick and Thorne and bring them back to work there. (I know Thorne is a Forrester, but he's never been really respected as a part of FC, so it could make some sense for him to work with the Logans.) And Brooke could do a lingerie line to beat out the Brooke's Bedroom line, which is apparently now FC's only successful line. 

Can Hope get a friend? Someone, anyone, who she can talk to about shit that isn't her mother?  And do Finn and Taylor not have patients?  They can both just hang out and audit FC meetings during the workday?  

And what's with Carter? He seems to be enjoying this just as much as Steffy is. Maybe we can get Carter and Steffy starting some workplace affair?  

Oh, and why the hell is Katie taking work calls in Bill's living room? And when Bill asked if she played nice, and she responded "don't I always?"  Well, if you consider repeatedly accusing someone of murder playing nice, then, sure. Katie is one of those people who has a rather unearned reputation for being "the good girl."  It's pretty similar to how Taylor is somehow viewed as some kind of saint despite all evidence to the contrary.  The show is so committed to that idea that they retconned a mutual friendly breakup with her and Carter when they decided they wanted to have her go peeing all over Bill, so it wouldn't look like she dumped Carter to go after her ex. 

 

[GHScorpiosRule]

So answer me this-as someone who is clearly stupid. If when Steffy cancels HFTF line, doesn’t that mean Hope, RJ, Zende, and whoever are basically out of a job? And can she do that since Brooke agreed to be Co-CEO, and has to have her agreement? Man, FC sure has sunk to low levels if they only have two fashion lines after HFTF is canceled. How will they sustain and succeed? 

[Anna Yolei]

On 9/13/2024 at 11:00 AM, backhometome said:

Who are the other 2 longest married couples?

Ridge and Taylor from '98 to 2002, and Eric in Donna from '07 to 2011. If you include this 2nd marriage, Eric and Donna have been married longer than any other couple.

Edit: technically, I suppose Eric and Stephanie count, having been married for 25 years at the start of the show but on screen I think they only managed three years at any given time.

Edited September 14 by Anna Yolei

[Js Nana]

So, Ridge and Brooke just sit there while Steffy invites Finn and Taylor to witness HFTF, and Hope along with it, being dumped from Forrester Creations - If only because it will get her out from under Steffy's massive shadow, Hope should cut all ties with Forrester Creations and sign on with another fashion house - and did I see Hope having to remind Finn that they shouldn't be spending any time together in the previews of the coming week's shows?

On 9/13/2024 at 9:02 PM, Waldo13 said:

Finn and Taylor are in the office where HFTF is being discussed but why isn’t Brooke there?  

I could have sworn that she was in the room at the time, but I was concentrating on Steffy being able to invite her husband and mother to witness her humiliating Hope.

[KerleyQ]

40 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

I could have sworn that she was in the room at the time, but I was concentrating on Steffy being able to invite her husband and mother to witness her humiliating Hope.

You're right, Brooke walked in with Hope. 

[Kimboweena]

9 hours ago, norcalgal said:

Heather Tom and Josh Morrow did portray siblings on Y&R, right?  Or did HT already leave by the time Morrow was cast as Nick Newman? 

Heather Tom portrayed Victoria from 1990-2003.  Josh Morrow has been her brother, Nick, since 1994.

[hypnotoad]

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Hope should cut all ties with Forrester Creations and sign on with another fashion house

Exactly. This is really why not having Spectra around hurts this show. Tons of story came from them scheming. And of course, whenever someone was pissed at Forrester or feeling underappreciated over there - they ran to Spectra!

I wish I could understand why Steffy is constantly awful and terrible and never, ever pays for her nonsense. I know I've complained about this before but it's getting worse! Even Stephanie had to pay some consequences for her plotting. Sure it didn't last forever but at least she was put in her place. Erica Kane on All My Children didn't always win. We all could probably name many slightly scheming, slightly bitchy leading lady soap characters who didn't always win. It makes Steffy so one-dimensional and boring.

Plus in my opinion, JMW is not a good actress. She doesn't remotely have the chops to play this character the way she should be played. She should watch some film of Susan Flannery as Stephanie to get pointers. I realize Stephanie was a huge biotch  lot of the time, but SF knew how to throw in layers and vulnerability too.

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I was just saying last night, can we please get Wyatt back? He's the only one of Bill's kids who doesn't suck. 

I wish we could! I miss Wyatt. I guess it's no use saying it, I never get what I want from this show.

[CharlizeCat]

21 minutes ago, hypnotoad said:

Plus in my opinion, JMW is not a good actress. She doesn't remotely have the chops to play this character the way she should be played.

I agree and have been saying that for years now. How she's won several daytime Emmys is truly a mystery to me. She can only be one-note nasty with the petulant demanding behavior, vindictiveness, and hot temper. She can non-cry when she needs to in order to play victim. And the only part of her face she can move is to roll her eyes. 

I suppose if Steffy is supposed to be a malignant narcissist who never takes any accountability for her shitty behavior, then JWM her nailed.

[ByTor]

7 hours ago, hypnotoad said:

Plus in my opinion, JMW is not a good actress. She doesn't remotely have the chops to play this character the way she should be played. She should watch some film of Susan Flannery as Stephanie to get pointers. I realize Stephanie was a huge biotch  lot of the time, but SF knew how to throw in layers and vulnerability too.

I don't know if anyone here ever saw JMW in Final Destination, but she played that character like Steffy. It seems IRL she's a pretty nice person, I think she enjoys playing the bitchy characters but overdoes it.

12 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

I suppose Eric and Stephanie count, having been married for 25 years at the start of the show but on screen I think they only managed three years at any given time.

If we can include off-screen, how about Kristen? I guess that's the secret to a good soap marriage 🤣

[Crashcourse]

9 hours ago, ByTor said:

I don't know if anyone here ever saw JMW in Final Destination, but she played that character like Steffy. It seems IRL she's a pretty nice person, I think she enjoys playing the bitchy characters but overdoes it.

I saw her in Final Destination 5, and I read this Wikipedia segment where she said she enjoys bitchy on B&B: 

Since Wood stepped into the role, Steffy has been noted as being a "bitch-nasty" vixen who is strong willed.[6] Of playing her, Wood said in 2011, "I love playing her and developing her character. She is so different from me. It's rather cathartic, and it allows my alter ego to come out on The Bold and The Beautiful set five days a week."[7]

 

[ByTor]

9 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

I saw her in Final Destination 5

I should have remembered it was 5, it's my favorite Final Destination!

[Crashcourse]

Mine too!

[Allen83]

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[backhometome]

Why was Bill acting like he never met Will before. Like he doesn't know how to be a father. This whole Katie/Will/Bill thing seems so juvenile. 

LOL Steffys condition. I know wont be popular on here. But Hope does need to respect her CEOs marriage. She is lucky she wasn't fired. 

 

[ByTor]

20 minutes ago, backhometome said:

Why was Bill acting like he never met Will before.

At this point he should pull a Clark Griswold from Vegas Vacation and do a nod to the recast...I hardly recognize you!

[nkotb]

Steffy, mid-episode, paraphrased: “I appreciate what your line brings, I’d never cut it for personal reasons.”

Steffy, end of episode, paraphrased: “Just so you know, I remember you playing kissy-face with my husband at the party for your slut mom’s lingerie line, if you ever look at my property again, I’m cutting your line, so you don’t turn into your hobag mom, am I clear?”

I was watching $Bill & Katie today, here’s my take ~ they’re the love of each other’s life. They’ll always love each other, & part of them will always want to be together, but they shouldn’t be, because they continuously bring out the worst in each other, & they’re boring together, which is far worse as a viewer. So, they can support, maybe even pine, but they should agree to love each other, but not be together romantically.

I’m kinda glad everyone is over harassing Deacon about Sheila. It’s nice for the Spencer boys to be cool with him. I swear, though, “TomAndHollis” is 1 word in BelLA.

Finally, on a personal note, anyone else continually get AARP ads when watching the show? I’m in the Midwest, & I’m starting to take it personally & be offended. 😏

[lightninggirl]

Crew Morrow's mouth bugs me 7 ways from Sunday. God, there, I've said it. Mostly it's the upper lip that's throwing me off. It doesn't help that he's got the mumble-mouth complaining-teen bullshit going on - much like mouth-breathing Nick on Y&R. 🙄 Putting him next to Scott Clifton, Mr. Animated "Watch Me Pull a Face!", for a few episodes really did nothing for him.

Watching $Bill moon over Katie while not completely cutting ties with Poppy is lame. Or did he totally break up with Poppy and I napped through it? Things move at a dang snail's pace on this show.

[MisterJay]

Does anyone know why there are no full epidodes of B & B on CBS online? Just clips. You can watch full episodes of Y & R, Price is Right, Lets Make A Deal, etc. etc., but not Bold & Beautiful??

[GHScorpiosRule]

So I got my wish half-way, though it burns my ass that it was Steffy who said it. Then we get the contingency later on. I knew it was too good to be true.

But did y'all see Carter's BUG-EYED look when Steffy was spouting all that nonsense? Pick a Lane, ASSHOLE. And we know Ridge would have agreed with Steffy because of Hope'sWhoDOESTHAT?kiss to Finn.

Off-topic, sort of. I've been watching The Sopranos for the first time (after learning stutterbarkmarblemouth Bernard actually auditioned to play Tony Soprano!) and I got a cackle and a giggle that Uncle Junior watched this show while he was under House Arrest! (I saw one clip of Andrea Evans (RIP, she'll always be Tina from OLTL and Patty on Y&R), talking to some blonde about some pregnancy, and the other, with Harmon's Thorne and Brooke, with Thorne cupping Brooke's face.

This is circa 2000-2002

Edited September 17 by GHScorpiosRule

[ByTor]

15 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

stutterbarkmarblemouth Bernard

Who?

[GHScorpiosRule]

10 minutes ago, ByTor said:

Who?

Maurice Bernard, who plays a Michael Corleone wannabe on General Hospital.

[Waldo13]

Bill’s platitudes towards Katie make me 🤢🤮.  We all know that Brooke is his favorite Logan sister.  

Once again I say the Ridge should even be there as well as Finn and Taylor. Ridge is not an executive, just a designer and Finn and Taylor don’t work for FC. Also it’s not Stuffy’s decision alone. Brooke should have something to say unless she’s no longer CO-CEO.  

Why the fuck is Deacon all of a sudden chiming in on how wonderful Katie is.  Is this just another plot point to put Bill and Katie back together. For me, Katie is just a busybody who’s as much a social climber as Poppy wanted to be. 

Stuffy just has to be large and in charge. Again I have to ask why the monkeys with a keyboard make Hope take shit from Stuffy without allowing Hope to through shit back. Something like 2 children and 2 paternity tests. 

[SweePea59]

On 9/13/2024 at 7:54 AM, NinjaPenguins said:

Imagine all the viewers they might get back if they let Steffy be served that humble pie. There is zero dramatic tension in any storyline involving Steffy because everyone knows she’ll win/survive/have excuses made for her. Why even care? Imagine making the “heroine” of your show such an atrocious, toxic bully, abusive spouse and horrible boss and thinking that’s quality daytime entertainment. If show acknowledged Steffy was a villain or, hell, admitted she was deeply flawed, it would be easier to watch her antics.

I wasn't able to watch last week's episodes in a timely fashion and I was going to catch up this past weekend. Then I read the comments here and changed my mind. I'm skipping last week based on what I've read here.

The way they wrapped up that Ploopy and Lunatictac story line was very unsatisfying, like bad food or bad sex. I put up with a lot of crap on this show because they tend to deliver pay-offs that ultimately make it worth it. Not this time. Nope.

On 9/13/2024 at 11:20 PM, CharlizeCat said:

I don't like nuWill. I don't think that guy's a very good actor. He came from Y&R, correct? He can go back. 

As other's have stated, he wasn't on Y&R, (unless he appeared as an infant at some point for an episode or two), but his real life father is on Y&R and plays "Katie's" brother. "Katie" was the only good Victoria, and anyone who saw her in the role considers her the real Victoria. (Victoria is now played by something that could only be the spawn of a wraith and a mop, with no acting ability and scary teeth.) Will looks just like his real life father, sounds just like his real life father, and sadly acts just like his real life father. So it's really funny to those of us who have watched both shows to see Katie's son being played by her pseudo nephew. And then throw in Brad as Will's father...

[Peppermint]

When Steffy smiles...watch out. She was so very nice about not dumping HFTF. Then sashays in to corner Hope and "set boundaries". "Don't breathe the same air as MY HUSBAND".

Maybe it was her stint as "Bitch in a Box", but I was reminded of those sly chimps at the zoo who give the gawkers a toothy grin and then toss double handfuls of shit at them. 

[KerleyQ]

Brooke, let me help you out here, "Ridge, can we speak privately?" By now you should definitely know not to have any level of personal conversation with him in front of Taylor. She'll just seize on every little detail she can soak up so she can figure out how to use it to come between the two of you.  

I wanted to smack that grin off Ridge's face when he found himself literally in the middle between Brooke and Taylor. He's never had a leg to stand on with his shock and horror of "who kisses someone else's husband?" 

And I cracked up at her and Steffy both so indignant that anyone would dare to think she'd make any FC decisions that are influenced by her personal feelings, and then Steffy tells Hope that she'll cut the line if Hope goes near Finn. 

I'm hoping that backfires on her. We saw Hope telling Finn that they can't spend any time around each other in the previews for this week. I think he's going to start becoming upset about that because, like Hope, he didn't have any friends other than her. So Steffy's threat to Hope's line may be the thing that starts pushing Finn towards Hope, especially if he finds out about the threat. 

[Anna Yolei]

19 hours ago, MisterJay said:

Does anyone know why there are no full epidodes of B & B on CBS online? Just clips. You can watch full episodes of Y & R, Price is Right, Lets Make A Deal, etc. etc., but not Bold & Beautiful??

For full episodes from 2013 and later, you'd have to use the Paramount Plus app in the US (I can't speak to other countries as to where they may be found)

The Bell family themselves have their YouTube channel for older episodes, where the most recent ones are from 2021 IIRC:

https://m.youtube.com/@boldandbeautiful/featured

 

 

[GHScorpiosRule]

25 minutes ago, KerleyQ said:

We saw Hope telling Finn that they can't spend any time around each other in the previews for this week. I think he's going to start becoming upset about that because, like Hope, he didn't have any friends other than her. So Steffy's threat to Hope's line may be the thing that starts pushing Finn towards Hope, especially if he finds out about the threat. 

I'll believe this when I see it. As we all know, and as I stated upthread, it was just two weeks ago or so, when he was acting as if Hope had roofie'd him when she kissed him, and he told her to stay the fuck away from him and they couldn't be friends...his wife abuser was right about her, blah, blah, fishcakes.

Then again, this show, like the other, does quick 180s to service plot.

[Anna Yolei]

15 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Why the fuck is Deacon all of a sudden chiming in on how wonderful Katie is.  Is this just another plot point to put Bill and Katie back together. For me, Katie is just a busybody who’s as much a social climber as Poppy wanted to be. 

Does he know Katie well enough at all to be saying any of that? The only other time I recall them sharing a scene was 2017, when he got arrested for trying to bust a cap in Quinn's ass.

You're right that she's basically the Steffy of the Logan clan, except I can point to a specific 12 month period in '08 where Steffy was a mostly decent human being. Katie was barely on Show 6 weeks before she was panting over Nick and there were instances where I got the sense they were trying to to chem test Katie with Ridge too. 

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Wait a doggone minute!!  Isn’t Brooke a co-CEO with Steffy after Rdge stepped down so he could focus on designing??  WTF with Taylor throwing shade to Brooke and Brooke saying she was on the executive team without mentioning it??

So want to see Steffy suffer and she sure plays being hateful quite naturally.

Taylor STFU and you are NOT part of Forrester so get the hell out!

Ridge grow a couple will ya? 

 

[GHScorpiosRule]

14 minutes ago, Foghorn Leghorn said:

Wait a doggone minute!!  Isn’t Brooke a co-CEO with Steffy after Rdge stepped down so he could focus on designing??  WTF with Taylor throwing shade to Brooke and Brooke saying she was on the executive team without mentioning it??

Yes. But as I am discovering watching this show, they've retconned it so she's only in charge of her new Bedroom Line. Forget about how so many can find the clip where Brooke finally agrees to be Co-CEO and promised that piece of shit Ridge, that she'll "tryyyyy" to get along with his heifer of a spawn.

Edited September 17 by GHScorpiosRule

[ByTor]

2 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

I got the sense they were trying to to chem test Katie with Ridge too.

Katie and Ridge were engaged.

[norcalgal]

37 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Yes. But as I am discovering watching this show, they've retconned it so she's only in charge of her new Bedroom Line. Forget about how so many can find the clip where Brooke finally agrees to be Co-CEO and promised that piece of shit Ridge, that she'll "tryyyyy" to get along with his heifer of a spawn.

If this is so, B&B have now retconned yet another plot (Luna as a cunning, far planning killer) they showed just a few weeks ago.  They must think their audience are goldfish!

[Js Nana]

A word to the wise for Hope Spencer Forrester (nee Logan): You should realize that if you stay with Forrester, you will always be under Principessa Stephania's thumb, so quietly shop your design talents around to other fashion houses, accept an offer from the one that's the best fit for you, and then make a name for yourself in the fashion world that will make Forrester's designs look like third-rate knockoffs and put Steffy in the position of not having her phone calls returned by high end customers.

[Js Nana]

2 hours ago, Foghorn Leghorn said:

Ridge grow a couple will ya? 

Ridge is a Pollyanna type who is childishly blind to what's going on around him and truly believes that all it takes for everything to be sweetness and light is his wishing it so.

[Js Nana]

On 9/16/2024 at 3:01 PM, MisterJay said:

Does anyone know why there are no full epidodes of B & B on CBS online?

Just signed on to CBS online and chose B&B, and found that the trick to having access to full episodes, ads included, is to click on the Season 38 arrow next to Full Episodes and choose Season 37, which, as of today, Tue., 9/17, has access from the 8/19/24 (S37 E231) episode through to the 9/13/24 (S37 E250) episode (choosing Season 38 gives you access to the 9/l16/24 (S38 E1) episode because you only have access to episodes the day after they've been broadcast, so the 9/l17/24 (S38 E2) episode will be available on 9/18/24) - Paramount has the same limited number of seasons available as well.

[Waldo13]

Once again Ridge just stands there and says nothing about Taylor talking shit to Brooke. Taylor haven’t you heard that Ridge is no longer CO-CEO?  Brooke is CO-CEO but Stuffy dismisses that fact. 

Maybe Finn didn’t want that kiss but you defiantly wanted to play hide the wiener with Liam when he was with Hope.  You also wanted to ride the stallion when you were with Liam but that is to be erased by the annals of B&B forever.  Maybe Hope put her lips on her husband but Stuffy put her “lips” on Liam’s wiener. 

Finn and Liam are actually brothers from another mother.  They are two  Casper Milquetoasts that are weak minded. Stuffy, the Red Queen, demands obedience from the men in her life, and if they don’t comply, OFF WITH THEIR BALLS. 

Can Taylor please please STFU.  She makes my ears bleed. 

 

[CharlizeCat]

12 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

I'm hoping that backfires on her. We saw Hope telling Finn that they can't spend any time around each other in the previews for this week. I think he's going to start becoming upset about that because, like Hope, he didn't have any friends other than her. So Steffy's threat to Hope's line may be the thing that starts pushing Finn towards Hope, especially if he finds out about the threat. 

So do I. What bugged me was that Finn was overly friendly to Hope at IG. After the way he treated her the last few times they talked, I fully expected him to borrow some heads of garlic from Deacon's kitchen, then whip out a crucifix to ward her off.

Then there he goes again with all the (inappropriate) fawning praise. And it's a crack pipe dream if Finn or anybody thinks that Hope and Steffy will put their differences aside and become friends. 

Anyway, I think that now that Hope has blown him off, he'll be even more intrigued and seek her out to try to find out why she's now going to give him the cold shoulder. I am all kind of excited for him to find out about Steffy's threat/blackmail. Why Hope puts up with that shit, I'll never know. A rival fashion house to poach away HFTF would be delicious right about now. Headed by Kirstin and Felicia as designers and Brooke as sole CEO. Maybe Zende can be spirited away to work with his mother. And what is Felicia's son Dino doing these days. Yet another forgotten kid. 

I am glad that Brooke stood up to Taylor today, but she shouldn't have stopped to Taylor's level to argue, especially in front of Ridge. That asshole was just eating it up and could barely conceal his delight! He has Taylor and Brooke right back where he wants them. I am at least glad that he sort of stuck up for Hope. I'll bet that really got under Taylor's skin.

This Taylor has Hunter Tylo's coldness down, and I don't see anything original she's bringing to the role. Krista Allen loosened up the character a  bit by adding the slightly quirky side. This version seems to have a permanent stick up her ass and the smug sanctimoniousness HT displayed. 

[KerleyQ]

I don't know whose smug smile during those scenes annoyed me more - Ridge's or Taylor's. Ridge is eating this shit up. At least he defended Hope, but he did not defend his "destiny." Just one of the many reasons I wish Brooke had chosen Bill a few years back. The only time she had to compete for his love was that brief insanity with the damn building. 

Finn being all "hey, Hope!" and acting like everything is the same as it used to be was a choice, writers. And there he was telling her how wonderful and beautiful she is. Someone isn't too good at following his owner's instructions. I can just imagine the steam coming out of her ears if she'd overheard that conversation and saw how happy he was to be talking to Hope. And then his lighthearted "oh, because of that kiss you laid on me?" response to Hope saying they can't spend time together?  The same kiss that had him acting like she'd murdered his entire family?  Now he's all smiles over it, like "oh, that little thing? Are we still talking about that?" He's definitely going to start missing her soon. 

Also, is his full government name Steffy's Husband, or is it My Daughter's Husband?  

It occurred to me while watching yesterday - what, exactly, is Thomas doing for FC now?  He's a designer, but it seems like all of their lines are based out of the L. A. office, so what's he doing?  Do they have entirely different lines they put out in Paris? Why can't he design for HFTF from the Paris office? Shouldn't that help keep the line profitable while also keeping Hope and Thomas on different continents?  

Everything about this show lately feels like the writers started heading down some paths, then they hit a point where they couldn't decide if they wanted to keep going down those paths, so they backed off on some things, rewrote some things, and now they're just kind of dancing around "do we want to go back to any of those storylines? Or do we want to move in different directions?" 

[ByTor]

2 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

Everything about this show lately feels like the writers started heading down some paths, then they hit a point where they couldn't decide if they wanted to keep going down those paths, so they backed off on some things, rewrote some things, and now they're just kind of dancing around "do we want to go back to any of those storylines? Or do we want to move in different directions?" 

Or they all walked off the job & got a new crew.