B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat

[ByaNose]

Yeah, HT looks in bad shape. It’s not just plastic surgery. It is weird that nuHope is looking more like KM this late in her run. Odd.

[smartyshorts]

NuHope is looking like OldHo right before she vanished in a spin of bubbles and a xylophone riff. Make sure youre wearing sensible shoes, Hope!!

[RuntheTable]

My feelings for Steffy regarding her horrible parents will never change; no one deserves to be saddled with those two. But I can't deny how much I am loving the karmic justice that Liam is handing out. I have never forgiven Steffy for the way she treated Wyatt. Girl couldn't get away from Wyatt fast enough once he sprung Liam from Captive Cabin, and used her sudden "dislike" and "distrust" of Quinn as an excuse. So maybe now Steffy will understand how Wyatt felt. I am not saying Quinn wasn't off her rocker back then, but after all the fallout from CC, Quinn at least tried to overcome herself, and has made real progress. Taylor OTOH, is stuck in a time warp; still thinking she is battling Brooke for Ridge. As much as I hate it, it does seem they are letting Bridge stand this time, when historically they would have crumbled and fallen months ago. I guess we never saw Taylor's crazy because she always had Stephanie there to fight her battles and do all the heavy lifting, leaving Taylor plenty of time to keep her halo nice and shiny. Taylor isn't interested in open dialog, level headed debates, or the truth. Why is it that she, and Ridge, cannot except that Steffy wanted to have sex with Bill. She allowed him to come to the Guest House. She allowed him entry into the Guest House. She allowed him to woo her. And she willingly and wantonly rode that pony like it was her first time at the rodeo. And after that show, we were treated to them eye fucking each other during the entire Thanksgiving celebration. Just so absolutely gross. Maybe they see it as a reflection on their parenting skills, as if they ever had any of those, i.e. Thomas and Douglas and Phoebe. Maybe because they failed those three so terribly, they are trying to regain ground with Steffy? Whatever the reason, they are behaving like a pair of loons, and have both committed crimes in their shared need to project their parental shortcomings on Bill, Brooke and Hope. 

If there is no one listening at the Partially Opened Door, I certainly need Hope to tell someone the way Taylor is behaving. Of course she won't though, because she doesn't know Taylor shot Bill. I think @ByTor is on to something with that scenario. It will be like when Sheila showed up gunning for Brooke and Taylor to her leap of faith. I have this vision in my head of Taylor showing up unannounced at Cliff House, and finding Hope there holding Kelly, or watching Steffy hold Kelly, and something shaking out with either Steffy or Kelly getting hurt. And of course, Taylor would lay all the blame at Hopes' feet. She couldn't help herself you know, because Hope was harming her granddaughter. 

Brooke my girl, I love you, but I am not gonna let you skate on all that hypocrisy you were spewing to Hope. I do believe that Steffy used Kelly during her pregnancy, but I haven't seen that at all since she delivered, maybe just a bit in those first weeks, but overall I have to give Steffy credit for not using Kelly. But you used Bridget like no body's business in the early days, always showing up at FC's with Bridget in tow or at the Guest House. How about that impromptu picnic you planned in Ridge's office? And while I will never discount Taylor and Stephanie's tag team approach at trying to destroy Brooke's life, Brooke has to also except that she did some pretty shitty things too. But Brooke was very much on her own; she had no partner in crime, no one to lean on, or plan with, or scheme with, or spend time laughing at, and degrading, and shredding another person's character and life. Stephanie and Taylor used to gag me with their unified snotty elitism, and judgmental hypocrisy. So, in many ways, I can't fault Brooke for striking back, but that does not apply to the present day situation. I don't agree that Steffy is like Taylor. The only time I would agree with that is when Steffy was under her mother's control, and Taylor had Steffy fully ingrained into her Anti Logan Campaign. There has been a time or two that Steffy has allowed it to rear it's ugly head, but overall I think Steffy has tried to take a higher road than her mother. I am only talking about recent events here, this does not include anything before Steffy delivered Kelly. Brooke was right when she said that maybe she was projecting. She is, just like Taylor. The difference is that Brooke at least has enough self awareness to acknowledge it, while Taylor is running rampant around LA, slinging accusations and threats. She actually went to Bill's office to beg him to not turn her in, and after getting his agreement, she starts attacking him. I mean, what the actual fuck? Then showing up at FC's, talking all kinds of crazy to Hope? 

And when you look at how Brooke's life has turned out compared to Taylor's? That pretty much says it all.

I have a really, really bad feeling about this. There is a reason the cute little detective suddenly showed up at Bill's office right when Taylor shows back up. 

Edited November 28, 2018 by RuntheTable

[CountryGirl]

The only thing missing was a hockey mask on Taylor's face.

I was screaming for Brooke to hear her browbeating pregnant Hope and kick her plastic ass six ways from Sunday.

This trifling trick just cannot get it through her vapid brain that her precious Hauxdi ruined her marriage ALL BY HERSELF by fucking Bill like it was their last night on earth in Granddad's guest house. She fucked that dick, she lied and lied and lied some more, including getting a secret paternity test, to try and cover her trampy tracks. She got busted.

With the exception of the fucking, none of that is on Bill. 

And none of that is on Hope, who got with Liam after his marriage was dead in the water. Was he technically still married? Yes. 

But IMO, the marriage was over when Liam found out about the cheating and walked out.

You know, the day this happened:

So she can shut her fat trap about all of it just as she can shut it about Brooke "stealing" Ridge. One cannot steal someone else's man (woman) as if they're shoplifting candy bars at the Circle K. Ridge willingly chose to be with Brooke just as he willingly chose to leave Brooke for Taylor. If anything, Taylor should take a good look in the mirror and yell at herself for being so damn dumb as to fight with Brooke over Ridge for far too many years (and Brooke should do the same), let alone still boo-hooing about it like he was some great loss. 

That bitch better not cause harm to Hope or her unborn daughter or so help me...

[RuntheTable]

14 minutes ago, CountryGirl said:

That bitch better not cause harm to Hope or her unborn daughter or so help me...

Saddle um up my friend! There are some new sheriffs coming to town, and they are gonna show that bitter bitch all their moves. 

[ByTor]

18 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Liam just might drop a dime, to Det Sanchez, on Taylor.

Maybe Liam will be the one Taylor will harm as she begs him not to rat her out.  I don't like when soap characters are killed off, but I wouldn't mind a show with no more Liam.

[Joimiaroxeu]

There's a soap forum where most of the posters hate Hope. Hate her hard. Among all the trash they talk about her, they've been saying for months that either she'll lose the baby or she's going to die in childbirth leaving Liam and Steffy to raise her child along with Kelly. (I guess in the first scenario she'll be so distraught she'll leave town or jump off a bridge or something; either way Liam ends up back with Steffy.) I never took any of it seriously until crazypants Taylor showed up and zeroed in on Hope and her baby as the only things blocking Steffy's chance for eternal happiness. 😉 It's quickly looking like Taylor may do something which will have permanently tragic consequences for Hope or her unborn baby. Nutty characters can be fun but IMO not when they're harming innocent children. Ugh.

[Anna Yolei]

21 minutes ago, ByTor said:

Maybe Liam will be the one Taylor will harm as she begs him not to rat her out.  I don't like when soap characters are killed off, but I wouldn't mind a show with no more Liam.

I'd prefer that to Hope losing yet another child. It was hard enough watching Bridge go through three misscarriges (one from Aggie and the two she had back in 2007).

Plus, for better or worse, Liam getting offed would have a big impact on Show, as Bill and Wyatt would be shooken up, and of course teen angst from Kelly and/or New Eggo about not knowing their dad. Scott Clifton deserves better that the same story he's had for the last decade.

[mightysparrow]

@RuntheTable and @CountryGirl, you both speak truth!  I haven't been watching for a couple of months but it's good to read you commentary.

I've never hidden the fact that I despise Hauxdilox.  One of the reasons I dislike her so strongly is that she hurts people, especially Hope, just BECAUSE.  She believes that she's THE GREAT STEFFY FORRESTER and she has the right to hurt any 'little person' that gets in her way.  It's hard to imagine how Hauxdilox could have avoided being a hateful bitch with a grandmother, mother and father like THAT.  She didn't have much of a chance but she DID have a CHOICE.  Hauxdilox COULD have chosen not to play out the psychodrama she was born into but she chose not to.  That's probably why I've always liked Hope.  Her approach might have been wrong-headed but she TRIED to break the cycle that brought her into being.  She admired Hauxdi and looked up to her.  She called Hauxdi 'sister'.  Because of that, I will always be on Hope's side.  I wish the prize was better than Liam, but it's a soap.

But even I have felt a twinge of pity for Steffy.  Taylor was always a hateful bitch.  But in the past she hid behind Stephanie and her pagent-girl looks to cover it up.  Well, now Stephanie is dead and those looks have been sliced and diced by a plastic surgeon.  We're seeing the REAL Taylor and it ain't pretty.  It ain't sane either.  I can't believe its taken so long but I think Hauxdilox is beginning to see just how CRAZY her mother is.  I can't believe that she was willing to turn the other way after her mother shot a man in the back and walked away, but she IS a Forrester.  But listening to her mother talk is finally making her realize what a lunatic her mother is.   It would be nice if she came to the same realization about her father but I don't think she ever will.  Hauxdilox LIKES having her father on a string, panting over her and willing to go crazy in her defense.  Hauxdi thinks she can control her Daddy.  Wait till she finds out how wrong she is.

Watching the scene between Taylor and Hope was chilling.  I kept muttering 'get out of there Hope'.  I can't believe that Hope isn't making a move for the door or calling security.  She's knows what crazy looks like and it's staring right in the face.  Hope has already lost a child at the hands of a lunatic.  Bell Jr. better not be repeating history. 

I think I know what website you're talking about @Joimiaroxeu, and that place is a looney-bin.  It's no wonder they love Hauxdilox and her mother.  They've been howling for the blood of Hope's baby since it was conceived.  The thing is that if they get what they want and Hope loses her child, I don't think they'll get their Steam reunion.  I don't think Liam would run from the funeral of his baby straight into the arms of the woman who fucked his father.  People like that see children as property, as bargaining chips.  They think that Liam sees the baby he has with Hope the way they do; as a mere backup to Kelly. But Liam might see the baby Hope is carrying as HIS CHILD and the grief of the loss might bring the two of them closer together.  Losing their baby didn't bring Hope and Wyatt together because they didn't want to be together BEFORE she got pregnant.  Hope stayed with Wyatt because of some wrong-headed belief that she should stay with a man she didn't love FOR THE SAKE OF THE BABY, as if it's better for a child to grow up in an unhappy home, as long as it has two parents.    If Taylor harms Hope and causes her to miscarry, I think Steam fans can kiss the last chance of their fave couple getting back together, goodbye.

[Anna Yolei]

20 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Taylor is in the major league of being off her rocker. Taylor puts Pam and Quinn to shame. 

If that ain't the gospel truth! As rabid loony Taylor is acting, I'm genuinely surprised she hasn't hunted down Stephanie's Special Blend(tm) that she tried to give Morgan. Normally, I'd make a crack about that involving her doing her own dirty work for once, but that ship sailed when she popped a cap in Bill's ass.

23 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

She can't keep getting pass after pass after pass.

You say that, but when does anyone seem to get punished for...anything, really?

[backhometome]

I am so tired of Taylor and Ridge treating Steffy like a naive little girl when it comes to Bill. He gets all the blame for their ONS as if Steffy had no part in it at all. 

[Gam2]

We’ve always known that Hunter Tylo was no Meryl Streep but has she always been THIS bad? Her acting yesterday and today was just cringe worthy. Hope? The next time that woman comes near you just walk away. You don’t have to listen to anything she says or defend yourself or explain yourself to her. Someone needs to lock that crazy witch up for good.

[Anna Yolei]

On ‎11‎/‎28‎/‎2018 at 8:26 AM, Joimiaroxeu said:

It's quickly looking like Taylor may do something which will have permanently tragic consequences for Hope or her unborn baby. Nutty characters can be fun but IMO not when they're harming innocent children. Ugh.

There's no faster way to forever ruin a character than to have them party to bringing harm to a child on purpose. Adam Newman had an actor that had a cult of personality following him and it took a whole recast five years later for fans to even begin to move away from his burning the fetus in the fireplace and gaslighting Ashley.

I mean, there's been no fewer than two characters who skated on "misunderstandings" in the last two years, so stranger things have happened. But I don't know how they can justify Taylor walking around free if she pulls something like this either.

On ‎11‎/‎28‎/‎2018 at 9:25 AM, mightysparrow said:

The thing is that if they get what they want and Hope loses her child, I don't think they'll get their Steam reunion.  I don't think Liam would run from the funeral of his baby straight into the arms of the woman who fucked his father...If Taylor harms Hope and causes her to miscarry, I think Steam fans can kiss the last chance of their fave couple getting back together, goodbye.

All of this. And just like Hope/Wyatt, Liam left Steffy after the first miscarriage because he didn't want to be there. When Liam is distracted, he's even less subtle than Ridge about that.

On ‎11‎/‎28‎/‎2018 at 10:54 AM, Gam2 said:

We’ve always known that Hunter Tylo was no Meryl Streep but has she always been THIS bad?

Oh hell yes! I remember binging through a glut of about 5 months of episodes from around the time the Baby Jack story was going on. I did feel sorry for her  originally cuz Brooke was being her passive aggressive self....but on a second viewing, a less meddlesome person than Brooke would be right to worry from that OTS shit she was pulling. It was absolutely terrible acting that did nothing to make Taylor sympathetic.

The sooner she leaves, the better.

Edited November 30, 2018 by Anna Yolei

[mightysparrow]

2 hours ago, Gam2 said:

We’ve always known that Hunter Tylo was no Meryl Streep but has she always been THIS bad? Her acting yesterday and today was just cringe worthy. Hope? The next time that woman comes near you just walk away. You don’t have to listen to anything she says or defend yourself or explain yourself to her. Someone needs to lock that crazy witch up for good.

Believe it or not, but this is Hunter Tylo on a GOOD day.  One of the worst things about her years with Ridge was the Tsunami of Bad Acting Tylo and Ronnnnnnnn Moss created together.  It was PAINFUL to watch.

I was so proud of Hope today.  She remained calm and collected and didn't take that hateful bitch's bait.  Taylor is a bully and a drama queen, just like her daughter.  She was trying to draw Hope into a screaming match, so she could play the victim, just like she did with Brooke at Hope's wedding with that moronic cake fight.  When Taylor refused to leave, Brooke should have called Steffy in and told her to take her mother home.  Or called the police.  Instead, she throws cake around and looks just as guilty as Taylor.  Hope is clearly NOT just like her mother because she's not going for the okey-doke with 'doc'.

It was also nice to see Liam give Taylor the bum's rush.  It's so clear that Taylor doesn't really give a shit about her daughter or her grand-daughter.  Liam is the son of the man Taylor shot in the back and left for dead, who also happens to be the man her daughter had CONSENSUAL sex with (a LOT of consensual sex, mind you) in the Forrester guest house.  It's also clear that Liam can't stand Taylor.  But Taylor wants her daughter to be with this man because in her sick, pathetic little mind it gives her a leg up over Brooke.  Isn't Taylor supposed to be the 'klassy' one?

[Waldo13]

Come on Hope, just kick the unbalanced idiot out of the office.  Enough is enough, or as my grandmother use to say Sha! Shtil!, with all this diatribe about Bill. It's nothing but verbal diarrhea.  The act like Bill doesn't hold all the cards and can sent Taylor, Ridge, and Condor to jail at the press of a button. 

Stuffy can tell Liam that Taylor is working hard in rehabilitating herself with a straight because that her best but only emotion.  

I find it quite funny that Bill actually knocks on the door and asks to come in were Pam and Taylor just barge in.  How random that Ridge is doing dishes wearing an apron and Taylor just happens to come a calling. 
Why is Taylor talking to Ridge not being a big fan of his wife?  Liam is 100% correct to tell Hope about Taylor shooting Bill.  Hope is now cognoscente that Taylor can be violent and not to be alone with her. 

[Gam2]

Well, TayTay has certainly made the rounds: Slutty, Bill, FC to abuse Hope and then onto Eric’s house where Ridge is in an apron washing dishes. Because you know, he had lunch with dad and step-mom of leftovers from Thanksgiving (yuck!! Throw those nasty food stuffs in the garbage!) and he offered to do the dishes and give the staff a few hours off. Give me a freaking break. That may just be the most absurd, unbelievable scene in the history of absurd, unbelievable scenes on this show. Who the hell does this woman think she is? I do admire Hope’s restraint (although I think it’s more that she has no fire, no personality and no backbone) but she really should have just called security and had TayTay thrown out. Now THAT would have been worth watching. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

Yeah, Taylor's been burning up the LA freeways lately. Hope she drives an electric car.

[Petunia13]

I can't help but wonder if Phoebe never died if they would be placing Steffy on such a pedestal and whether she'd still have this entitlement and lack of accountability.  

[CharlizeCat]

So today was the first scene with HTy and TK, right? First off, why TF was Ridge doing dishes at Eric and Quinn's house? And in an apron?  (He never seems to lift a finger at Brooke's house.) Quinn even made a point of mentioning that she and Eric have a chef, so it's reasonable to assume that they probably have other household staff, or at the very least, an automatic dishwasher. Geez ...  I'm expecting a scene soon with Taylor folding laundry at Steffy's house. (She was always folding laundry.)

This is sad to notice so soon, but even in the brief encounter, I could already tell that TK has a lot more chemistry with HTy than KKL. I would be all for those two to reunite and disappear off the face of the earth. Take their ho of a daughter with them. I really don't care what happens to Kelly. She can go, too, or I suppose Liam and Hope could fight for her. 

While I really want to see Taylor locked away somewhere for shooting Bill, it might be more interesting if Bridge blows up and Brill reunites. Queric splits up after a prolonged battle between Quinn and Donna. Donna wins Eric back, then the real fun would began when Taylor and Quinn battled over Sludge.  I'd pay good money to watch that. Quinn would snap Lippy like a dead branch. 

[Cindylou]

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   I am just happy  that someone overheard Taylor being the crazy bitch she is!!!!  I just wish someone/anyone would hear Pam when she's screeching at Quinn, I hate it when the crazy is always believed and the victim is always the one that is told they are wrong.  Taylor has lost her ever lovin mind!  Bitch, Brook raised your family while you were off playing Princess Layla with Prince Omar! YOU weren't there for your bratty kids, Brooke did them no harm, she's always tried to love them as her own.

[RuntheTable]

Looks like Taylor brought out the Super Turbo Boost Bitch Broom, cause she is tooling the LA freeways at an alarming pace. And she has really gone and done it now. Bill going to see Steffy about her mother? And not to blackmail her, or threaten her, just to give her a heads up on how crazy mommy is. I feel bad for Steffy here, but she needs to step it up. She has seen it for herself on numerous occasions. I do understand that no one wants to say their parent is whack, but being whack, and being a dangerous whack are too different things. Liam was absolutely right to express his concerns to Steffy, and he was absolutely right telling Hope that Taylor shot Bill. 

I simply don't know what to say about our newly domesticated Ridge. I can't explain it, but I don't get good feelings when Ridge and Taylor see each other. The only other time being Hope's wedding, but Ridge barely acknowledged Taylor that day. He was a bit nicer yesterday, but seeing them together was all kinds of weird to me. 

I loved how when Taylor got right up in Hope's face, and was shouting, and pointing her bony finger, Hope just looked down at her with those big eyes; clearly telegraphing her confusion and fear. Good job yesterday Annika. 

[drivethroo]

Taylor's intent was to go to Forrester Creations and confront Hope.  For all we know and weren't shown, Taylor could've stopped by Hope's office and was told Hope was in Steffy's office (Just like Liam was probably told Hope was in Steffy's office).  Liam knew Taylor wasn't there to see Steffy because she had just come from Steffy's house.

It's good that Liam told Hope the truth about Taylor.  Somebody needs to call Crimestoppers and drop the dime about Taylor's involvement in Bill's shooting.

Did Thomas get back together with Caroline after he found out about the dying lie?  I seem to think Caroline flipped because Thomas found out the truth and she went missing (came to LA to blame Bill) and left Douglas in Danielle & Karen's care.  But did he get back together with Caroline after that?

[ByTor]

1 hour ago, drivethroo said:

Did Thomas get back together with Caroline after he found out about the dying lie? 

Yes he did, because apparently the LA mindset is that people with babies need to be together as a couple.  Thomas going back to Caroline is the reason Sally returned.

[ByaNose]

43 minutes ago, ByTor said:

Yes he did, because apparently the LA mindset is that people with babies need to be together as a couple.  Thomas going back to Caroline is the reason Sally returned.

How come on soaps everybody wants to be a family. Either a stupid kid is saying it or one of the adults or the scorned woman. The "we can be a family" line drives.me.up.a.wall. Rant over.

[nkotb]

I wonder if Taylor is this gung-ho to have her grandson living under 1 roof, with his 2 parents, one of whom is closely-related to *clutch my pearls* Bill Spencer, who completely took advantage of poor, innocent Steffy, & ruined her marriage by being smoking hot, charming, & available to lend an ear & a stallion ride for Steffy's crisis-of-the-moment, when she was pissed at Liam for kissing Sally. Is Taylor, the paragon of mental health, going around shooting people, IE Ridge, who she thinks kept Thomas & Caroline apart, so that poor Douglas isn't raised under 1 roof with both parents? If so, don't miss this time, Taylor. 

Douglas is her firstborn grandchild, maybe she might want to at least mention him, more than the 1 time I've ever heard her mention him (yesterday, with the inexplicably-aproned Ridge, WTF?), especially since she's so obsessed with her granddaughter's living arrangement. 

It baffles me that anyone would want their child saddled with Liam. That ping-pong shit wouldn't last very long before I'd be doing whatever I had to do to get my daughter away from him. I certainly wouldn't berate his wife-of-the-month for him being with her at the current time, especially if my daughter had taken herself out of the equation. 

HT is just not a good villain. She's uncomfortable to watch ("she" meaning both Taylor & HT), she has no real reason to be as pissed as she is, she's just far outlived her shelf-life, let her leave for good this time.

Edited November 29, 2018 by nkotb

[RuntheTable]

1 hour ago, nkotb said:

It baffles me that anyone would want their child saddled with Liam.

Ah, but at the core, Liam has nothing to do with it. Taylor is just continuing her Anti Logan Campaign, and since Brooke won't have any of it, she is attacking Hope knowing it will upset Brooke. The woman is unhinged in the most alarming way. If I was Hope, I would be questioning everything going forward. I can see Taylor cutting brake lines or turning on the pilot light or staging trip wires. 

Edited November 29, 2018 by RuntheTable

[drivethroo]

26 minutes ago, nkotb said:

It baffles me that anyone would want their child saddled with Liam. That ping-pong shit wouldn't last very long before I'd be doing whatever I had to do to get my daughter away from him. I certainly wouldn't berate his wife-of-the-month for him being with her at the current time, especially if my daughter had taken herself out of the equation. 

But it's not about Steffy's well-being with either Taylor or Ridge.  If it was about Steffy & Kelly's well-being, both Taylor and Ridge would be telling Steffy to stay away from Liam as a partner and just co-parent with him (which she is doing) and leave wishy-washy Liam to Hope (which Steffy is also doing).  They would both want Kelly to be in a stable home and Liam bouncing from Steffy to Hope just breeds instability.

Ridge is just using the Steffy boink to one-up Bill and Taylor is using the Steffy boink to one-up Brooke.  Steffy is a grown woman who has been married at least 3 times, is in her late 20s/early 30s and is now a mom. Both of them are acting like Steffy is some naive little girl who was taken advantage of for her first time of sex. Steffy has told both of them repeatedly that her night with Bill was consensual but that doesn't matter to either Taylor or Ridge because if they accept that Steffy, of sound mind, willingly had sex with her husband's father then it destroys their narrative of Big Bad Bill coming to destroy Steffy.

Ridge actually needs to sit down because he went after not one, but two of his father's wives and slept with his brother's wife while she was impaired (which is technically rape).  He has no room to judge Bill.  Perhaps the protestation that Steffy is blameless in the Father F*ck is really a protestation for himself.

Edited November 29, 2018 by drivethroo

[Joimiaroxeu]

Kind of rich for Brooke to be demanding to Steffy that she respect Hope and Liam's marriage and family. She pretty much pushed Hope to step in between Steffy and Liam when they were still married.

Taylor vs Brooke: he's Steffy's! Well he was Hope's first! I hate you blonde man-stealing bimbos! It's not our fault you brunette heaux can't hold onto your men!

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Somebody needs to call Crimestoppers and drop the dime about Taylor's involvement in Bill's shooting.

Somebody needs to call the nearest mental hospital and get a 5150 hold put on Taylor. She is unhinged.

[Gam2]

Yeah, today TayTay was really over the top when she was talking to Brooke. It was almost laughable as I watched her try to emote with her frozen face. She’s got her own very twisted version of the past with Ridge and Brooke. No one will be able to convince her that she’s as bad as Brooke was. This will not end well at all.

[Petunia13]

Taylor is crazier than Ally and Quinn combined. 

I wish Ally was alive so she could see how Taylor is talking and punch her. Of course, Taylor probably thinks with her gallon of fillers any fist would just bounce off her face like a stuffed pillow. 

Today was toooo campy for me. HT simply cannot carry this material. 

Liam has been working out and bulking up. Some of his dress shirts are snug on him now and his biceps are starting to pop. I wonder if CH/Sally has been giving him work out pointers, what she knows about fitness could fill a textbook.  

Brooke looked beautiful today. It was a real contrast the entire episode of her facing off Taylor. That wig on Steffy is too thick and almost matted looking and shoved down too low on her hairline. The Show needs to stop this shit. 

Yay for Hope stepping in to defend her Mama against this crazy bitch. I can get behind confident Hope! 

[mightysparrow]

27 minutes ago, Petunia13 said:

Taylor is crazier than Ally and Quinn combined. 

I wish Ally was alive so she could see how Taylor is talking and punch her. Of course, Taylor probably thinks with her gallon of fillers any fist would just bounce off her face like a stuffed pillow. 

Today was toooo campy for me. HT simply cannot carry this material. 

Liam has been working out and bulking up. Some of his dress shirts are snug on him now and his biceps are starting to pop. I wonder if CH/Sally has been giving him work out pointers, what she knows about fitness could fill a textbook.  

Brooke looked beautiful today. It was a real contrast the entire episode of her facing off Taylor. That wig on Steffy is too thick and almost matted looking and shoved down too low on her hairline. The Show needs to stop this shit. 

Yay for Hope stepping in to defend her Mama against this crazy bitch. I can get behind confident Hope! 

 

Brooke had a certain serenity today and I can't help think that some of it had to do with working opposite both JMW and HT and seeing what they've done to their faces.  I'm sure that KKL has had some work done but she hasn't butchered her face and she looks so beautiful. 

Hope gets slammed for being 'meek' and quiet but I was so proud of her today.  She was so courageous putting her pregnant body between her mother and a lunatic.   I'm sure Liam is going to catch hell for telling Hope but I think the more people who know that there's a dangerous lunatic on the loose, the better.  

Taylor is so pathetic.  That whole 'lowly brunette' business was pure lunacy and a rewrite of history.  Taylor (and her daughter) have looked down on Brooke and Hope for YEARS.  They've always mocked the Logan's 'humble' beginnings.  Well, the fact is that the Logan women WORKED for what they have unlike Taylor and her daughter, the slattern.

I got the feeling that there was a bit of a chem-test with Ridge and Taylor but I don't think that TK will ever allow himself to be partnered with HT.   He appears to have an aversion to working with women of a 'certain age' unless they're drop dead gorgeous.   I think putting TK with HT would serve him right for turning Ridge into such a filthy thug. 

[Petunia13]

Yes Taylor's insults were out of control. First of all Brooke isn't just some slutty bimbo. She's a college graduate and patented inventor. At one point she practically saved Forrester financially with BeLief and she also made them a fortune with the Brooke's Bedroom idea. She and Hope have never bragged about being blonde or bashed brunettes and most people in their orbit have said Taylor and Steffy were sex pots or equally (if not more attractive). 

I agree Hope was being very brave. The actress played her shock and confusion well the past couple episodes and then brought out a bit of grit in the confrontation, I enjoyed it. 

[CharlizeCat]

Oh, like TK is some kind of prize in the looks department. /eyeroll  GMAFB ... 

[lightninggirl]

Preface: I've seen 99% of this show's episodes, starting from the very first one ever aired back in 1987, and have been through all of the Brooke-Taylor bullshit ad nauseam over the years.

I know I'm absolutely in the minority, but I hate Brooke and Dope and hope they get knocked down a few pegs (and then some!). One would argue (and I would agree) that being stuck with Liam is hell enough for Dope, but I've hated her character since she came on the show as an 'adult.' In the past, I've loved Taylor and Stuffy, but Stuffy's little 'tricks' with Liam & Bill have just worn me out on liking her. I loved Taylor back in the day with Ronn Moss, but since she's been back these last few times from a hiatus HT's plastic surgery has seeped into her brain and seriously affected her acting abilities. Anyway, I've always thought Brooke was a nasty skank and there is pretty much nothing that will ever redeem her in my eyes after all of the shit she's pulled over the years.

So I'm one of the ones who's praying that Dope's kid never makes it in this storyline because UGH. I'm honestly shocked that Stuffy's kid was actually born in the first place, and now that poor kid is going to be bouncing around these idiots and their oh-so-sweet "we SO get along, look at us amazing co-parents!" bullshit routine that is going to devolve in 3-2-1... I don't think that either Dope or Stuffy deserve to have to put up with Liam the Idiot Waffle, so I can unite them in my mind there together. I guess I'm just still pissed about all of the times that Brooke stole Ridge from Taylor over the years! 🙄😅🤣

[Gam2]

I think the person we all need to blame for all of this crap is Ridge. Womans be stupid but he wallowed in all of the women pursuing him. 

[Waldo13]

I find it hilarious that Taylor and Ridge thinks Bill took a blow torch to Stuffy's marriage because they still would be married.  True to B&B's MO, if it wasn't for Bill it would be something else to brake up their marriage.  I'm surprised that Eric and Quinn lasted this long.  Hell, Pam's and Charlie's marriage was broken up even before a marriage. 

Brooke has a lot of nerve to confront Stuffy about not respecting Liam's marriage as does Taylor confronting Hope. Can we get a cage fight between Brooke and Taylor?  I'll pay for the popcorn. Pot calling the kettle black but who's the pot and who's the kettle?  Hold on Taylor, Stuffy is a Forester and Brooke is a Logan and you think that Brooke is handing you and Stuffy the crumbs?  Taylor screaming at Hope than Brooke I'm wondering why her face didn't drop.  I guess she just got her Botox refill.

[RuntheTable]

That was a crackling good show today!

CHAPTER ONE

For fucks sake; do Taylor and Ridge know nothing about the birds and the bees? You two idiots! Bill didn't fuck himself. He fucked your daughter. And he did that because your daughter wanted him to. It is a really simple thing you know. Steffy was mad. Bill called and Steffy told him where she was. Bill came. Steffy let him in. They talked. Then they fucked. No forced entry; either into the Guest House or Steffy's love canal. Oh, and Steffy even got on top. And she didn't use a bridle or a saddle. Nope. Your daughter rode that shit bareback. And there was kissing too. Regular and French. Kissing makes it really personal and intimate. And Taylor, let us be clear on this, the only thing Bill inserted himself into was Steffy's vagina. When Bill was waging his campaign to win Steffy's hand; there was no marriage with Liam. It is completely and totally irrelevant that Liam forgave Steffy. Liam no longer trusts Steffy. Fucking his father kinda showed him how easy it was for Steffy to betray him in the worst way. Being Ostriches and trying to rewrite history doesn't change the fact that your daughter is a loose booty heaux; at least for that night. 

CHAPTER TWO

 What did Ridge mean when he said about Hope"She's not my favorite either?"

What did Ridge mean when he said about Liam "After everything he's done?"

Am I living in an alternate universe? You are such a stank ass bastard. I hope you end up with Taylor. 

CHAPTER THREE

I am getting damn good and tired of Show making me feel bad for Steffy. And now, you not only have me feeling bad for her, but commiserating with her. Agreeing with her! Holy Heinous Turn of Events Batman! I was so annoyed with Brooke today. I thought she was completely off base with Steffy. The grounds for that attack just were not there. I think Steffy handled herself, and the situation, really well. And I loved her line about how she wasn't Taylor and Hope wasn't Brooke. 

CHAPTER FOUR

LAWD! The disparity between Brooke and Taylor. They were both being ridiculous of course, but Brooke looked so calm, almost serine, while Taylor continues to look like a ranting, raving, lunatic. And I am saying, my Bitch must have kicked in the nitrous boost on that broomstick, because she certainly got from the Forrester Mansion to FC's pretty damn quick. How exactly does Taylor think her behavior is helping her cause? I am gobsmacked with how delusional she is. I really am. Ridge walked out on Brooke time again in their long history. Both times you came back from the dead. After both episodes of "Ridge's Choice". After fake heart attacks. Again and again and over and over. Taylor needs to get to the heart of the matter. Rant about what really has her panties in a twist. Stephanie. Taylor has never gotten over Stephanie wanting to be with Brooke in her final hours. She cannot except that Stephanie, at long last, saw Taylor's tarnished halo, and came to some realizations about relationships and loyalty. No doubt Taylor blames Brooke for the breakdown of Taylor's relationship with Stephanie, but the reality is, Stephanie started to see the real Taylor after she ran Darla down, and lied about it, and got involved with Hector. Then got involved with Thorne which screwed up Ally. The drinking, and Stephen Logan, and all those other nameless men Taylor talked about. This is the time when Stephanie divided up the stock, I can't remember the scenario exactly, but she didn't give any to Taylor, or maybe just a small amount. Taylor found out and came over to the Manse, and found all the family there. She was incensed for being excluded, and had a terrible row with Stephanie that ended in Taylor saying that Stephanie had always wanted to screw Ridge, which made Stephanie hit Taylor with the slap heard around the world. Taylor has no one to blame but herself for losing Stephanie, and once Stephanie removed her protective mantle, she exposed Taylor for the fraud she is/was. Taylor fighting her own battles is a far cry from being Stephanie's henchman, and her crazy has slowly been exposed over the years. I think Brooke really started to see it when Taylor raided another doctor's files to read Brooke's chart. And this is a person who was licensed to deal with other people's mental health. 

Edited November 30, 2018 by RuntheTable

[CharlizeCat]

I didn't care for that remark Ridge made about Hope either. WTF did that mean? I wish Brooke heard it or will somehow find out about it. I can't even imagine those words coming out of RM's Ridge's mouth. (I know that TK doesn't write the scripts, but still ... )

[TessHarding2]

Taylor lost all of her subtlety and allure.  I've been watching soaps for so long and I still get excited when I see two vets with loads

of history be true to their characters and just fall right into it.  I guess the writers aren't feeling it.  (If anyone watched GH with Leslie and Monica, or here with Brooke and Stephanie), go for it, we'll eat it up as long as you are true.  As said above, yeah, too much camp.  All that screeching Taylor did deserved a big face slap, but I don't think that's today's style anymore.  I want a new Ridge too.  I see Shrek.

[Cindylou]

13 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Taylor vs Brooke: he's Steffy's! Well he was Hope's first! I hate you blonde man-stealing bimbos! It's not our fault you brunette heaux can't hold onto your men!

LOL too funny!

Can I just say, while I hate Steffy, I have been amused by her lately.  Everytime she hears about Taylor or talks to Taylor she rolls her eyes so much, cause she knows her mom is full of shit.  she loves her mom so she lets her crazy rant at her and then tried to calm the crazy.  it makes me kinda like her a bit more, cause you can see she's  trying to keep her mom from losing it but knows there are issues.

 

The only way i'm gonna stay behind this Bat Shit Crazy Taylor story is if it ends with her death!  HT is just so bad now, she has to go!

[Anna Yolei]

On ‎11‎/‎28‎/‎2018 at 7:53 PM, Petunia13 said:

I can't help but wonder if Phoebe never died if they would be placing Steffy on such a pedestal and whether she'd still have this entitlement and lack of accountability.  

Oh, I'm sure she would have; they just would've found a new way to ruin Phoebe and make her as unlikeable as the rest of her many, many siblings and step-siblings.

But between her and Aly, it was a huge mistake on the behalf of this show to kill off all the older granddaughters (we still have baby Lizzie, but that's gonna be years away before she'll be mixing it up on the cast), even if Steffy didn't have the personality of a crusted, stale Cheeto.

19 hours ago, ByaNose said:

How come on soaps everybody wants to be a family. Either a stupid kid is saying it or one of the adults or the scorned woman. The "we can be a family" line drives.me.up.a.wall. Rant over.

Among other reasons, this is why folks in my generation and younger have largely left soaps in the dust. This shit is just soooooo outdated and for most millenials and gen X'ers, a lot of who fit under some variation of LGBTQ (especially today's teens) or are more accepting/open of being childfree, either for financial or personal reasons. I have one friend who has decided to go celibate because she is that against risking having any children (largely because of her own raising by a shitatsic mother, but I digress). Hers is a rather extreme take on childfree, but more and more people are just not onboard for the "family at all cost" crap that soaps are still peddling.

On ‎11‎/‎29‎/‎2018 at 4:28 AM, Cindylou said:

Taylor has lost her ever lovin mind!  Bitch, Brook raised your family while you were off playing Princess Layla with Prince Omar! YOU weren't there for your bratty kids, Brooke did them no harm, she's always tried to love them as her own.

She really has. Even when Phoebe and then later Steffy herself wanted to pursue a relationship with Rick (which....gross), Brooke was there to defend them. Brooke didn't even lay into Steffy for her heaux behavior over sleeping with the man she'd barely divorced, which is a whole lot more civil than she deserves, considering everything Steffy's said and done to Brooke and her family.

I mentioned that horrid baby Jack story a few posts ago, but that was the time where, to me, Taylor truly lost her halo. There was so much wrong with that story from the get-to (like the fact that it was set up as a vehicle to push Brooke and Nick back together), but even after TIIC decided they weren't going to push Brick together again "for the sake of the baby," they couldn't have Taylor bond or look past the fact that the baby was part Brooke. Some apprehension is understandable and she definitely played buttinski at times like a freakout over Taylor feeding the baby formula over breastmilk, but there could've been so much more payoff down the road* had they let Taylor learn to love the baby she grew instead of dump him off because the writers have no imagination beyond having Taylor and Brooke fight over men.

*in theory, at least, because if Hope is any indication, the potewntial would've been squandered bigly as they had him waffle between two other women on the show like all the men do. *rolleyes*

[mightysparrow]

2 hours ago, Cindylou said:

LOL too funny!

Can I just say, while I hate Steffy, I have been amused by her lately.  Everytime she hears about Taylor or talks to Taylor she rolls her eyes so much, cause she knows her mom is full of shit.  she loves her mom so she lets her crazy rant at her and then tried to calm the crazy.  it makes me kinda like her a bit more, cause you can see she's  trying to keep her mom from losing it but knows there are issues.

 

The only way i'm gonna stay behind this Bat Shit Crazy Taylor story is if it ends with her death!  HT is just so bad now, she has to go!

I'm not amused with all the eye-rolling over Taylor's behaviour.  This is a woman who got on a plane for the sole purpose of committing murder.  If her aim had been better, she WOULD be a murderer.  And the conversation is all 'poooooooooor Taylor is so afraid of going to prison and isn't Bill mean to hold it over her head'.  Bill owes it to SOCIETY to call the police. Taylor is a dangerous mentally-disturbed woman with a HISTORY of violence.  Bill wouldn't have been the first person she's killed.  And she did her best to weasel out of taking responsibility for her actions then, too. 

I'm not happy about how mental illness is being handled on this show.  Taylor is a SICK woman and has been for years.  She's been allowed to terrorize people with impunity.  The second she gets caught, the tears start and it's 'poor little me, I couldn't survive prison'.  Taylor ranted on about how entitled the Logans were, but there's nothing more entitled than people who think they're above the law.  She raised her daughter to be the same way.  I don't feel a twinge of sympathy for Hauxdilox.  I only hope that if Taylor hurts someone else, it's someone that Hauxdi cares about so she can understand the harm her mother has caused over the years.

[ByTor]

16 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

Today was toooo campy for me. HT simply cannot carry this material. 

Seriously, there was a point where KKL and HT had little smirks that looked like they were trying to hold in their laughter.

16 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

Taylor probably thinks with her gallon of fillers any fist would just bounce off her face like a stuffed pillow. 

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what would happen.  Her cheeks look like they're full of play-doh.  I'm not sure if it's just me, but her lips lately have been looking fairly normal.  I wonder if she is backing off on the lip injections, or if those cheeks are so bad that they are making her lips appear smaller.

21 hours ago, nkotb said:

I certainly wouldn't berate his wife-of-the-month for him being with her at the current time, especially if my daughter had taken herself out of the equation. 

If anything, Taylor should get in Hope's face and say "ha-ha you're stuck with Liam!"

41 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

TIIC decided they weren't going to push Brick together again "for the sake of the baby," they couldn't have Taylor bond or look past the fact that the baby was part Brooke.

The funniest part was when Taylor was inexplicably horny while pregnant because, while unknown to her, she was carrying the tramp from the valley's baby.

13 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

What did Ridge mean when he said about Hope"She's not my favorite either?"

That line really pissed me off.  Just when I was thinking Ridge was looking kinda cute in that apron!

13 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

Ridge walked out on Brooke time again in their long history.

Yes he did.  Except for the very last time, Ridge pretty much always chose Taylor over Brooke.  I still hate how manipulative Taylor was after Caroline died, telling Brooke Ridge needed to be alone for his mental health, when it was really Taylor shoving her competition out of the way.

[mightysparrow]

Brooke needs to know just how much Ridge dislikes her daughter.  Brooke was waaaaaaaay out of line in the conversation she had with Hauxdilox (now with even MORE LOX) yesterday, but I don't think she's ever wished Hauxdi ill.  Ridge wishes ill for Hope.  That's a new thing because when Ronnnnnnnnn Moss played Ridge, you knew he cared for Hope, even though he cared for his daughter more.  I find it hard to believe that TK's Ridge raised Hope. 

The scene between Ridge and Taylor showed just how much those two deserve each other. Two sick, violent people who see the world the way they want to see it, through the lens of their malice and entitlement.  They are willing to kill to get what they want.  I don't know if this is part of the $Bill redemption story line, showing that $Bill isn't the worst person in LA.  That would be Ridge and Taylor. 

I was glad Liam told Taylor to get on her broom and get away from his wife but he owes it to his wife and CHILDREN (not just his unborn child but Kelly as well) to see to it that Taylor is locked up.  I don't know if he can section 8 Ridge as well but it might not be a bad idea to try.  When $Bill Spencer is the LEAST horrible of your grandparents, you're a child with ISSUES.

[Anna Yolei]

1 hour ago, mightysparrow said:

I'm not amused with all the eye-rolling over Taylor's behaviour.  This is a woman who got on a plane for the sole purpose of committing murder...Taylor is a dangerous mentally-disturbed woman with a HISTORY of violence.  Bill wouldn't have been the first person she's killed.  And she did her best to weasel out of taking responsibility for her actions then, too. 

She sure did, and she dragged Phoebe into that mess too, and had the gall to go after Thorne for months afterwards. Good lord.

46 minutes ago, ByTor said:

The funniest part was when Taylor was inexplicably horny while pregnant because, while unknown to her, she was carrying the tramp from the valley's baby.

I thought that was a side effect of being pregnant in general (never had kids, so I don't know from personal experience). That, and the fact that she wasn't fake dating someone she had no interest in or fighting TB with an already high risk pregnancy this time, so...lol.

But, geez, is she really that stuck up and cold? My first image of her was from that four year period before she was offed in '02 where she and Ridge seemed like a stable, loving couple and Brooke seemed lonely and desperate chasing a man who from my vantage point had moved on. Aside from where Br4idget was concerned, I was never much bothered by her wanting sex, but geez no wonder Stephanie and Taylor hated her.

1 hour ago, ByTor said:

Seriously, there was a point where KKL and HT had little smirks that looked like they were trying to hold in their laughter.

I've noticed that many times over the years as the plots get more and more stupid. I mean, mud wrestling as "therapy"? A cake fight at a wedding? I wouldn't take this seriously either.

5 hours ago, Cindylou said:

Can I just say, while I hate Steffy, I have been amused by her lately.  Everytime she hears about Taylor or talks to Taylor she rolls her eyes so much, cause she knows her mom is full of shit.  she loves her mom so she lets her crazy rant at her and then tried to calm the crazy.  it makes me kinda like her a bit more, cause you can see she's  trying to keep her mom from losing it but knows there are issues.

I can't say I like Steffy any more for it, but I do feel bad for her having to play her mother's sanity keeper and personal therapist. I've had to do that for as long as I remember and that's not something I envy in any child. It's certainly no excuse for her horrid behavior and continued entitlement over everyone, but between batso Taylor and Ridge N. Titled, its a miracle she didn't turn out worse.

[ByTor]

3 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

I thought that was a side effect of being pregnant in general

That's what they say, but I think the show was implying it was because Taylor was carrying a baby with Brooke-cooties.

[Petunia13]

The way the heavy wig sits so low on Steffy's forehead it's making her look like Teresa Guidice 😖

Steffy had no right to to lay into Liam for telling Hope... she wants to know why? It's his fucking wife. Spouses are supposed to be honest especially when it pertains to a crazy bitch threat. 

The model in the midriff top escorting Zoe's dad/WB to the office looked like a young Bobbi Eakes. 

Typical shit writing that Donna was desperately needed to help Pam reception and be gatekeepers and neither of those twits are around, nor the Security doofus bf Charlie. Once again a plot point forgotten a week later. 

Steffy has the nerve to pooh pooh Liam's concern for Hope and others, stating her mother's wellbeing outweighed that of many. This is the problem with her and Ridge; they believe they and their chosen faves should never get consequences or even criticism, but the slightest mistake or flaw of others results in their righteous hysteria. 

[CountryGirl]

It's no secret Brooke's my girl but she 100% in the wrong with respect to her browbeating Steffy about backing away from Liam once his new daughter arrives. As much as it pains me to admit it, fair is fair, and other than the understandable moments of longing and wistfulness over what might have been, especially at Thanksgiving, I haven't seen one hint of Steffy trying to use Kelly to garner more time with Liam or that she's going to throw some sort of hissy fit when the new baby arrives. Even if Steffy were trying to pull shenanigans, Kelly deserves equal time with Liam and shouldn't be shafted just because she's not the shiny new baby anymore. 

So Brooke needs to back the fuck off and let the threesome figure it out - they're doing just fine on their own and don't need her or loose cannon Taylor to run interference, especially when both of them were guilty as sin of using their offspring as a bargaining chip with Ridge. Hope and Steffy have learned and grown from the sins of their mothers and their thus-far amicable relationship is proof of that.

But a visibly pregnant Hope coming in as a fierce lioness to protect her mother, herself, and her unborn baby girl from whackadoo was something else.

I was cheering her on because pregnant Hope? Don't play.

[Ohwell]

Why are Hope and Steffy wearing such bad wigs?  They look like cave women.  I wonder how the other actors feel having to watch Taylor try and move that face and work those lips?  I think Brooke is the best-looking female on this show.

Does Wayne Brady need work now?  Because I can't understand why he's here.  Never could stand him.

Edited November 30, 2018 by Ohwell
Forgot to insert Taylor

[RuntheTable]

 

And Taylor is officially:

 

Brooke will find out about Taylor and Ridge's little visit, and her imagination will run wild with scenarios, causing her to spill the beans about Taylor to Ridge. I have not one iota of doubt that Ridge will not be the least bit thankful that Bill didn't press charges against his ex-wife, and mother of three of his children. And the doofus will also not get that Bill did it for his daughter because he truly cared about her. Yeah, there was all the thinly veiled blackmail stuff, but Bill has laid that to rest, and even after getting verbally attacked by that loon, he still refuses to talk to Dt. Sanchez. But somehow Ridge will twist it that Bill is doing it for Brooke. Bill isn't doing anyone any favors, particularly Brooke, by letting that dangerous whack-a-doodle roam the streets. My money says that as soon as Bill finds out how Taylor has been coming at Brooke, he changes his mind. I can see Bill having a conversation with Liam and Hope, learning how aggressive Taylor was with Hope and Brooke, causing Bill to see red, and get real nervous for Brooke. Or, Brooke will just confront Bill, and Taylor's aggression will come out. I also think this will be the undoing of the love fest between H/L/S. Steffy will blame Liam for exposing her mother; it won't matter that Liam was trying to protect his wife and unborn baby, because Steffy and hers come first. Taylor could actually exit the show leaving more carnage than Sheila ever has.