B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat

[nkotb]

Damn, I love $Bill. The only thing that would've made that scene better is if the Grinch would've popped out of the back seat window, & sprinkled some snow on the ground. Or, taken the Forrester Creations sign on his way out. Yeah, we obligatorily watched The Grinch this weekend. 

Best show in a while.

[Anna Yolei]

1 hour ago, CharlizeCat said:

I admit that I read some of the gossip soap news and one announcement a while back said that KM was getting ready to come back from maternity leave and there was a "big story" coming up for Maya.

No woman is allowed to have a story independent of being a doormat for her husband.KKL and Heather Tom have over five decades' experience between them and look at the slop they get. And I imagine the only reason Steffy hasn't been thrown back into the Triangle of Dumb is because there'd have to be a huge break in story when JMW goes on maternity leave in two months anyway.

I'd love to be wrong on this, but whatever big story they supposedly have ain't happening. Just like none of the"new and improved Brooke" stories that happened after Hope was born and after Ronn Moss left  ever panned out.

[CharlizeCat]

Probably the "huge story" for Maya is that when KM returns, there will be one of the insipid parties in the communal FC office to welcome Maya back from International or wherever they pretend she's been the past several months! Ba-da-bing!

[Joimiaroxeu]

Pam's encouraging Donna to break up Eric's marriage. Yet it was a bridge too far for Quinn to suggest to Charlie that maybe he shouldn't marry crazypants Pam. Pssht.

So basically Ridge "gave" the judge $150k? Who does that? Of course he was going to exoect something in return eventually. Ya played yaself, Judge Lando.

Lol at Bill and Justin going all TMZ on Ridge. Meanwhile,  wonder why SP didn't cover Steffy's big fashion show?

Maybe Maya will have a flirtation with Zoe's dad. No way she's going to give up being a Forrester though unless they kill off Rick.

[RedRockRosie]

3 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

I will sport an UO that I do not care for Zoe at all. I don't find her attractive, her fake British accent is atrocious and she is almost as one-note expression as JMW. 

Not sure it's all that unpopular actually. I can't even look at her....and that accent. WTH??

 

How dumb are Ridge & Jake Sully the judge to meet in the open - in full view...especially when they know ol' $Bill is gunning for them?

Edited November 12, 2018 by RedRockRosie

[Waldo13]

Since when are Donna and Pam ass hole buddies?  Weren't they rivals? I guess Donna forgave Pam for being Bear bait.  Pam is pissed that Quinn disparaging her marring Charlie but she's all for Donna getting between Quinn and Eric.  Pam thinks she is Sir Lancelot and has to protect King Eric, the old fool. I have news for Pam, Quinn is far from being a pushover and is no match for her.  It's the same thing for Bill.  Bill is in the NFL while Ridge is playing touch football in the park.  

[Gam2]

I laughed and laughed today when Bill played Ridge for the idiot he is and got the judge at the same time. What a couple of morons. I’m already tired of this Quinn, Donna and Pam thing. Boring and who cares? Is Eric so old and feeble and senile that he can’t see what’s happening with all of these women? How insulting to the man who started this whole dynasty. And get a load of Donna and Pammy sitting in the hallway outside of the CEO’s office (that everyone in the damn company seems to use whenever they feel like it?!) like no one walking by would overhear. Geesh.

[RedRockRosie]

47 minutes ago, Waldo13 said:

Since when are Donna and Pam ass hole buddies?  Weren't they rivals? I guess Donna forgave Pam for being Bear bait.  Pam is pissed that Quinn disparaging her marring Charlie but she's all for Donna getting between Quinn and Eric.

 

33 minutes ago, Gam2 said:

I’m already tired of this Quinn, Donna and Pam thing. Boring and who cares?  And get a load of Donna and Pammy sitting in the hallway outside of the CEO’s office (that everyone in the damn company seems to use whenever they feel like it?!) like no one walking by would overhear. Geesh.

Yeah, I am so over this  Donna & Pam bestest buddies crap...since when? Last time Donna was on they hated each other! And seriously, when is it OK to try to interfere/break up someone you "supposedly" care about's marriage because you don't like the spouse? Lookin' at you there Pammy. Her breaking the engagement to Charlie made NO sense. Just have a long engagement you idiot, instead you gave Quinn exactly what she wanted all along - no Pam/Charlie marriage in her home. Which I agree with btw.

Edited November 13, 2018 by RedRockRosie
trying for a little more clarity

[Gam2]

This show just gets more and more stupid every day with the written word that these actors have to spew. Just when we think the writers have made the words as unbelievable as they possibly can, they surprise us yet again. No wonder the actress who played Ashley for so many years just had to leave. And good for her.

[Anna Yolei]

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Pam's encouraging Donna to break up Eric's marriage.

I hope Donna told Pam where she could shove that advice, along with her played out lemon bars.

Boy, Pam and Stephanie sure did fall off the same tree, didn't they? ??

[SweePea59]

$Bill sure was a badass with all his surveillance equipment.

[CharlizeCat]

I thought the funniest part of the show was when Ken asked Bill if Sludge and Judge Craig wouldn't be smart enough to figure out they'd been punked. The expression on Bill's face made words unnecessary.

What a pair of idiots ... and Brooke, Sludge going to prison would be the best thing to happen to you in a very long time.

I have no words for Donna/Quinn/Pam. Quinn really has no place to be so openly rude to them but Pam also doesn't have the right to encourage Donna to go after a very-married Eric. 

[TessHarding2]

Was happy to see Judge Lando back.  The parking lot surveillance was good comic relief.   Exterior work makes everything so "real", lol.  Funny that they've made this Faux Ridge a punk bully.  It really does seem like to me that they don't know what kind of storyline to give Brooke because why should she give a shit about Bill getting shared custody of the kid.  They are reaching.  What they need to do is amp up Bill being the father of Hope and Brooke trying to stop real blood shed.  Too much Pam lately, so I FF.

[Anna Yolei]

10 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

I hope Donna told Pam where she could shove that advice, along with her played out lemon bars.

Okay, so that didn't happen at all D:< What the hell, show?

What is with this show and insta-friendships with the last people that ought to be best buddies? first there was Stephanie being brought into the Jackie M fold by Nick of all people, and now Donna and Pam have buried the hatchet with no mention of the fact that Pam hated every single minute of Donna's marriage to Eric. I guess Quinn is gonna be the godmother to Baby Waffle #2 the way things are headed.

[RuntheTable]

 

Bill and Justin with there Super Spy Hearing Device, and the governmental looking sleek big black SUV was everything. 

Ridge suddenly putting stuff together after getting royally punk'd, and scanning his surroundings to find Bill and Justin watching him and the Judge was everything more. 

It would have been great if Ashton had been in the vehicle, and had put his arm out of the window real high, while giving Ridge the single digit salute as they whisked the SUV out of FC's. 

Someone needs to remind Pam and Donna that this is not Back to the Future or Peggy Sue Got Married; they are not teenage girls sitting in the Pop Shop talking about teenage boys. 

I loved that blouse Katie was wearing. 

[CountryGirl]

16 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Since when are Donna and Pam ass hole buddies?  Weren't they rivals? I guess Donna forgave Pam for being Bear bait.  Pam is pissed that Quinn disparaging her marring Charlie but she's all for Donna getting between Quinn and Eric.  Pam thinks she is Sir Lancelot and has to protect King Eric, the old fool. I have news for Pam, Quinn is far from being a pushover and is no match for her.  It's the same thing for Bill.  Bill is in the NFL while Ridge is playing touch football in the park.  

The enemy of my enemy is my friend?

Edited November 13, 2018 by CountryGirl

[ByTor]

I thought Donna and Pam gradually became buddies when they both worked the reception desk.

So Quinn goes to Pam's desk, Pam says something snotty, Quinn says something back, and Pam tells Donna "See what I have to put up with?"  What, put up with someone not letting your idiotic ass tell her off?

[Petunia13]

Pam is being a real bitch.  

[Anna Yolei]

1 hour ago, CountryGirl said:

The enemy of my enemy is my friend?

That's the basis of nearly every female friendship on this show--even Stephanie has had her unholy alliances with Brooke when it served her purposes.

I shudder to think of the day when TIIC finally go this route with Steffy and...well, anyone, really because who hasn't she fucked over by this point?

[CountryGirl]

Since when is there a backdoor to the CEO office?

It's the little things that intrigue me because...that's pretty much all this show offers these days, although yesterday's epi was a hoot!

Bill and Justin in their sleek, shiny spy van were everything:

Bill is always going to be about twenty steps ahead of Ridge, especially with bestie Justin at his side. As @RuntheTable said, he is:

Justin, how do you make those headphones look sexy as hell? Why Donna wants Eric back when she could have Justin is beyond me.

And here's Ridge, proving a skeptical Ken wrong that yes, that chucklefuck Ridge really is that damn dumb. 

This is what F-U-C-K-E-D looks like:

WTF, Judge Sully, I mean, Craig...I expect extreme stupidity from Ridge all day, every day, but you're a JUDGE. 

Time to queue up Bob Seger's "Shakedown" because no matter where you hide, Bill's coming after you. 

 

You are so busted, Ridge!

I laughed myself silly watching Sludge try to race after Bill and Justin.

He could barely breathe after one mere flight of stairs.

Maybe instead of taking advantage of women and children, he should take advantage of the FC rooftop gym? Just a thought.

Here's a nice little ending clip...it makes me laugh all over again.

Edited November 13, 2018 by CountryGirl

[Cool Breeze]

I feel my brain cells dying every day this "custody" SL continues.  It's just a silly plot contrivance that $Bill was always suspicious of the judge's ruling.  As if there were no way a court could rule in Katie's favor.  That's ridiculous.  If it's about the best interests of the child, and it is, then the litany of evil $Bill has heaped on his grown sons would be more than enough to give any judge pause.  

[ByTor]

1 hour ago, Cool Breeze said:

As if there were no way a court could rule in Katie's favor.  That's ridiculous. If it's about the best interests of the child, and it is, then the litany of evil $Bill has heaped on his grown sons would be more than enough to give any judge pause.  

Ridge said so many times that's how the judge would rule anyway, and Brooke said over & over to him that if he was so sure of that then why break the law, and she was right, Katie would have won & there would be no problem.  Of all the Bill storylines, this ranks right up there with "Sky" as the dumbest.

[Pickles]

Joe Lando has a full blown wig on his head. Ridge giving him $150k to attend law school probably 30 years ago. Okay, it could definitely cost that much today for three years of law school. But,30 years ago?? No way! 

[TigerLynx]

I love Bill.  He is so entertaining.  I also love that DD fully embraces the character, and plays it to the hilt.  Who wants to bet that Bill will offer to let Ridge and Lando off the hook if Ridge divorces Brooke, and Ridge will agree to Bill's terms?

[Waldo13]

Pam, even answering the phone is too much for her to handle.  Pam is so out of bounds in answering the phone the way she did.  Secretaries are important in the way they answer the phone for they are the first contact. Eric is just as bad in allowing the phone to go to voicemail if FC places the importance on a live person answering the phone. If not, than install a fully automated system.  But by hiring Donna, doesn't seem that FC wants to go in that direction.  Is Eric that stupid or is his ego that big that he can't see Pam's request for Donna to work at FC after Pam mentions that Donna still loves him. I'm sure that Eric will blow off Quinn's feelings about Pam disrespecting her and now having Donna as a partner in crime.  

The Breakfast Club gets called to detention room and Ridge and Condor are indignant about being there. At lease the judge was somewhat contrite.  I sure hope that Bill doesn't use any lube when he removes the sticks from Ridge's and Condor's asses.  It's ok for Bill to use lube on the judge.  

[Joimiaroxeu]

Where is Pam from that she pronounces "lingerie" in such an odd way?

I hope Bill and Justin got video in addition to the audio. Otherwise I can see Ridge trying to claim the audio was faked.

Justin's laptop had a bell symbol on it. Is that in homage to the show's producer or is it the B&B version of Dell?

Oh please, Ridge ain't going to prison and Katie's not losing custody of Will. Brooke will offer herself up to Bill before she lets that happen.

Judge Lando, there's a saying: If you can't do the time then don't do the crime. Bet you've used that one at least once yourself.

[Gam2]

I loved today’s show with Ridge, Thorne and the judge standing before Bill sitting in his chair passing judgement on all 3 of them. Go get ‘em, Bill! Wipe that smirk off of that nasty Ridge’s face!

[ByTor]

46 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Where is Pam from that she pronounces "lingerie" in such an odd way?

Alley Mills is from Chicago.

[TigerLynx]

Eric to Quinn, "I don't want you and Pam's personal issues brought to work."  Me, "Huh?  Where the hell have you been for the last 30 years?  All you people ever do is bring your personal issues to the workplace.  It's the reason everyone comes to work.  So they can whine and bitch at each other.  They sure as hell don't get any actual work done when they are in the Forrester Building."

In an alternate universe where Brad Bell wasn't in charge, B&B had good writers, and I didn't completely despise, loath and detest Brooke, this is what would happen:

Ridge would agree to divorce Brooke so Bill doesn't press charges.  Then Bill says what he really wants is joint custody of Will, the same deal he and Katie had before Ridge and Thorne got involved in something that wasn't their business, and he wanted to remind Brooke once again that the only person Ridge gives a damn about is Ridge.  Then Bill tells Brooke, he is a selfish arrogant jerk, but Brooke knows what she is getting with him unlike snake in the grass Ridge who sits on his high horse acting like he is so wonderful all while stabbing everyone else in the back the first chance he gets.

[ByaNose]

I didn’t realize Joe Lando was so short. TK was towering over him. Although, the custody storyline is dumb it’s one less time I have to see of Liam. It’s the small things. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Alley Mills is from Chicago.

Wow, I would've guessed NYC but now it makes complete sense. (And all this time I was thinking she was related to Hayley Mills. Nope.)

[A-Lo]

I am such a nerd but it really bothered me today when Donna was answering the phone in her icky-sweet way saying "I'll get that message to him" and then never wrote down the message!  How low has this show sunk that I'm paying attention to ridiculous details like this?

[CharlizeCat]

Gotcha!

[drivethroo]

5 hours ago, ByTor said:

6 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Where is Pam from that she pronounces "lingerie" in such an odd way?

Alley Mills is from Chicago.

Also, I believe Stephanie and Pam grew up in/around Chicago.

I say bring on Judge Craig full-time.  Write him an interesting story.  Backburner Liam & Hope & Baby like Rick & Maya & Lizzie were backburner'd.  Cut down Pam and Charlie lines and free up those salaries for Judge Craig.

Edited November 14, 2018 by drivethroo

[RuntheTable]

 

Naughty, naughty Ridge!

Bill didn't ask for Thorne's presence, so the dodo implicated himself.

Hey, that wasn't Alison, where is my Greek Princess?

I don't think Bill is going to do a damn thing. I guess it all depends on if he wants to get Ridge more than he wants Brooke. Being magnanimous, like he was with the whole balcony thing, will win him serious points with Brooke. That doesn't mean I wouldn't like to see Bill toy with his playthings a bit. But there is no way all these folks are gonna be headed to the slammer. Of course, they could go an entirely different direction and say the tape is inadmissible because it was made without Ridge and the Judge's knowledge. 

Generally, Katie's histrionics get on my last nerve, but I was feeling her yesterday. She is right to be concerned how her actions will be viewed, but there stands Ridge, the cause of all this chaos, telling Katie to shut up. Fucker. You inserted yourself into a situation that was none of your business, then you broke the law, and now have all these other people in collusion. Katie could lose Will over this, but Ridge just can't be bothered with that because he had to get revenge on Bill for Steffy tripping and accidentally falling on his dick. 

Shut up Eric. Forrester Creations isn't about fashion any longer; it is all about family drama. Just look at how things were the last time Rick was in charge. And since Steffy and Ridge have taken over all it has been is Liam, Bill, Hope, babies, tears, accusations and NON STOP DRAMA. 

It appears though, that Eric is playing to form, in that he loves and cherishes his wife, until he doesn't. Eric wouldn't tolerate any negativity towards Quinn in the beginning. He coddled her and defended her, and put her before his family. Now look. Telling Quinn to get along with Pam? Hows about you tell Pam to shut the hell up and but the fuck out of your marriage? Or maybe you could tell Pam to try to get along with Quinn? But no, that isn't Eric. He is going to put everything on Quinn; just like he did with Sheila. 

I noticed Quinn was dressed in all black again. 

As someone who did customer service for years, I was positively cringing as I watched Pam and Donna man FC's phones. Clearly exhibiting your exasperation with callers? Telling them to bugger off? Eric telling Pam to turn the phones off? Oh, why the fuck not? No one cares about business at FC's. Let those damn phones ring and ring and ring. Let those buyers take their orders elsewhere. Who cares? There is flirting and hiring of dual receptionists to be done! 

Edited November 14, 2018 by RuntheTable

[drivethroo]

1 hour ago, RuntheTable said:

Hey, that wasn't Alison, where is my Greek Princess?

Perhaps the original Alison actress wasn't available for taping and the producers slid FauxAlison in, thinking nobody would notice because Alison is just a rarely seen receptionist.

Speaking of rarely seen receptionists, whatever happened to Megan, the original Forrester Creations receptionist? She was friends with Brooke, I think.  Did she retire, move on, etc? Did they fire her to make way for Pam?

1 hour ago, RuntheTable said:

Of course, they could go an entirely different direction and say the tape is inadmissible because it was made without Ridge and the Judge's knowledge. 

Well, Ridge & Craig were talking about the situation in the open parking lot, could you still tape somebody then?

1 hour ago, RuntheTable said:

She is right to be concerned how her actions will be viewed, but there stands Ridge, the cause of all this chaos, telling Katie to shut up. Fucker. You inserted yourself into a situation that was none of your business, then you broke the law, and now have all these other people in collusion. Katie could lose Will over this, but Ridge just can't be bothered with that because he had to get revenge on Bill for Steffy tripping and accidentally falling on his dick. 

That's because Ridge never cared about Will's well-being, he only cares about sticking it to Bill.  If Katie gets caught up in the crossfire, too bad. It's her fault anyway for having a child with Bill in the first place.

1 hour ago, RuntheTable said:

It appears though, that Eric is playing to form, in that he loves and cherishes his wife, until he doesn't. Eric wouldn't tolerate any negativity towards Quinn in the beginning. He coddled her and defended her, and put her before his family. Now look. Telling Quinn to get along with Pam? Hows about you tell Pam to shut the hell up and but the fuck out of your marriage? Or maybe you could tell Pam to try to get along with Quinn? But no, that isn't Eric. He is going to put everything on Quinn; just like he did with Sheila. 

When Eric saw Pam on a stepladder taking Quinn's portrait off the wall, he should've realized Quinn was right to have a concern about Pam and put Pam in her place.  So let's recap:

Eric ignored Quinn's concerns about Sheila and continued to entertain Sheila, even inviting Sheila into their home

Eric is presently ignoring Quinn's concerns about Pam and blowing off Quinn's request not to host Charlie & Pam's wedding in her living room and is still ignoring Quinn's concerns about Pam after seeing Pam be disrespectful to Quinn and taking Quinn's portrait off the wall.

I think this is all undercover leftover anger at Quinn for betraying him with Ridge and he still hasn't forgiven her.  I think the writers need to write that story instead of this new storyline of "Quinn is being mean and nasty to Pam for no reason and reverting to her old ways so this is why Eric has to cheat on her with Donna so Quinn can fall on Ridge's d!ck after Brooke dumps him (again)."

Eric forgave Ridge and Quinn far too quickly.  Eric makes this dramatic speech about how Ridge is no longer his son but is still ki'ki'ing with Ridge. Eric should not be speaking with Ridge at all because this is the second wife of Eric that Ridge has pursued. 

Brooke is having Australian betrayal flashbacks and quite frankly, so should Eric.

1 hour ago, RuntheTable said:

As someone who did customer service for years, I was positively cringing as I watched Pam and Donna man FC's phones. Clearly exhibiting your exasperation with callers? Telling them to bugger off? Eric telling Pam to turn the phones off? Oh, why the fuck not? No one cares about business at FC's. Let those damn phones ring and ring and ring. Let those buyers take their orders elsewhere. Who cares? There is flirting and hiring of dual receptionists to be done! 

Forrester Creations needs an automated system so that if you are trying to place orders, you hit "1" or "3" or whatever the choice is to have the call directed to the appropriate place.  Pam really should only be answering phone calls for senior staff (Steffy, Ridge, Eric, Brooke, Quinn, Thorne, Katie etc).  She shouldn't be taking orders over the phone or even talking to buyers.  Eric needs to take the money he's going to spend on Donna's salary and use it to upgrade his phone system.

[Anna Yolei]

20 hours ago, Cool Breeze said:

I feel my brain cells dying every day this "custody" SL continues.  It's just a silly plot contrivance that $Bill was always suspicious of the judge's ruling.  As if there were no way a court could rule in Katie's favor.  That's ridiculous.  If it's about the best interests of the child, and it is, then the litany of evil $Bill has heaped on his grown sons would be more than enough to give any judge pause.  

Which makes Ridge's interference all the more pointless and stupid. and maybe--maybe--if I could believe he gave a shit about Will (Ie, the way Nick came to care about baby Hope), I'd have one-half of one-tenth of a fuck to give. But it was hit right on the nail with this:

1 hour ago, RuntheTable said:

Katie could lose Will over this, but Ridge just can't be bothered with that because he had to get revenge on Bill for Steffy tripping and accidentally falling on his dick.

It's never been about Will, or Katie, or even about Steffy who has never once to her very marginal credit tried to play this off as anything but a consensual "mistake" she made. It's all about Ridge being pissed at Bill for winning Brooke, the way he's always pissed on her relationships any time she made any attempt to leave him for good.

[CountryGirl]

Yesterday's episode was all kinds of fun...because it was all at Ridge's expense.

I'll dispense with the Pam/Quinn/Donna/Eric ridiculousness because TPTB lost me when they reminded me that a multi-million dollar fashion company has one receptionist?

And don't even get me started on how those two blondes played up the dumb bunny stereotypes in answering the phones.

I was a receptionist for a few months at an uber-busy insurance firm and trust, I knew how to answer those phones from day one or I knew my ass would be gone and back to the temp agency it would be. I have such respect for the women and men in those roles. But these two? So unprofessional...

Eric is being an idiot and a dick. I guess now that the honeymoon with Quinn is over, he's treating her just like he did his other wives when he got bored with them. He knew Quinn's number and chose to overlook it from the day she showed up to surprise him in Monte Carlo. He chose her, he chose to marry her, and so he needs to support his wife.

Also, Donna, are you high? Pam tried to kill you on more than one occasion and now they are buddy-buddy?

I know I commented on the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" but this is taking it too far.

Thankfully, the rest of the episode more than made up for this ridiculousness.

We pick up where we left off with Ridge realizing Bill and Justin had spotted him and Judge Craig in the parking lot and got to see him lumber up the stairs in hot pursuit. Only the only thing hot about it was the puffs of steam coming out of his ears or mouth. Damn, he's out of shape. A mere one second later, an in-shape Craig joins him. He is not out of breath. 

Craig: "Was it him?"

Ridge: "Yeah, that was Spencer. He's gone." Oh well, in that case, I'm sure everything's just fine.

Craig loses his shit: "He knows now. Damn it! He knows, Ridge. This was all just a set-up. Now he knows why I ruled against him -- because of you, because of what you asked me to do." Um no, because instead of kicking him the hell out of your office or, I don't know, recusing yourself from the case, you chose to go right along with his plan. He has no one to blame but himself.

Inside the CEO office, Katie is also (rightfully) starting to lose her shit.

Katie: "They can't get caught together!"

Brooke: "Bill suspects something, Katie. He thinks there's a connection between the judge and Ridge." Bill is right and you know that he knows he's right and he knows that she knows he's right. I do love that Bill knows Brooke is covering for her worthless husband and doesn't blame her.

Katie: "Well, if Ridge knows that, why would he meet with McMullen out in public?" Because Ridge is an asshole...and stupid.

Brooke: "I know!"

We cut to Bill and Justin where they smile over their plan going off without a hitch.

Bill: "Hacked into their cellphones, and they fell for it hook, line, and sinker. That much stupidity, they deserve to get caught." I agree.

Justin: "Got the whole thing recorded. Proof that ridge tampered with the judge and the custody hearing."

Back in the CEO office, Thorne has now joined his wife and sister-in-law when Ridge bursts in with Craig. There are no words.

Katie: "God!"

Thorne: "Ridge? What is this?"

Katie: "What are you doing here? You can't be seen together!" Um, a little late for that now.

Ridge: "It's too late."

Brooke: "Why, what happened?"

Ridge: "Spencer knows."

Oh yes, indeedy, he does.

Thorne: "It was definitely Bill in the car?" Oh, Thorne, you are even more clueless than your older brother.

Ridge, all but shrugging: "Yeah."

Craig: "And his attorney. They sped off as soon as Ridge spotted them." Joe, you sound as whiny as you did when you were playing Sully Messiah on Dr. Quinn.

Ridge: "But, you know what, maybe they thought we were just sharing college stories."

Katie is really pissed now: "Oh, come on. Bill is not an idiot. He knows! That's why he was interrogating Brooke. He's looking for proof."

Thorne looks at Brooke: "What did you say when he asked you? Did you give him any indication that his hunch was right?"

Brooke: "No! Of course not. I didn't say a word. I would never betray my husband."

Katie: "He can read you like a book." True, that.

Craig: "Somebody must have seen Ridge come visit me at the courthouse before the hearing." Yep.

Katie: "What were you thinking, asking a sitting judge for a favor, trying to interfere with the custody case -- I mean, what is wrong with you? Why would you do this?"

Ridge cannot stand being called out for anything, ever, even when he is 100% in the wrong, barks back: "Bill knows what he knows! Nothing I can do about it now." He seriously has zero conscience. Just like his penis.

Craig: "We subverted due process of the law! The ruling's illegitimate! It doesn't matter if the evidence supports it or not. You're gonna be my cellmate, Ridge."

Ridge, as puffed up with ego as ever: "No one's going to jail."

And I'm sure no one will. That's too easy for Bill. 

Back to SP and Bill, after listening to the audio clip again, "I was right all along. My Spencey senses told me something was off about that judge." Aww...we haven't heard Spencey senses in a while. I missed it.

Back at FC, the weight of his stupid decision is starting to make Craig unravel as he laments: "What am I gonna do? I could lose everything -- my wife, their kids... they're all counting on me!"

Katie: "If Will finds out..." And while I think going after full custody in the first place was wrong of her, I feel for Katie now. She could not only lose full custody, a court could decide to award full custody to Bill as a result of the tampering.

Brooke: "Okay, let's all just take a deep breath." 

Katie sputters: "That I knew about this, that Thorne and I knew about this, this could change everything! It could change the custody agreement. I could lose my son!" I don't think she will, but the possibility is out there and very frightening to Katie.

Brooke: "Stop! Katie! You're not gonna lose will."

Katie: "Bill is not gonna forgive us for this. What are you thinking?"

Thorne: "Katie! We'll fight back, we'll come up with a story, all right?" More lies. Come on, Thorne!

Katie: "There is no plausible reason why the two of them would have been together. If he finds out that Ridge was in Judge McMullen's chambers before the hearing and after the hearing, how do we explain that?" You can't explain it and everyone in this office and the one at SP knows that.

Ridge is furious that anyone is daring to question his authora-tay, screams right in Katie's face like the bully he is: "Katie, Katie, Katie! We don't know any of that. We don't know if anyone saw me there. We don't know that." 

Craig scoffs: "There are cameras everywhere. If Spencer wants to file a complaint to pursue this further, he's gonna have plenty to back up his claim! The evidence is stacked up against us. Do you realize that? Do you get that?"

Ridge (totally lying): "Yes."

Craig: "We are in a tremendous amount of trouble. Don't know if you-"

Ridge snaps: "I got it, Craig! I got it!" But he doesn't get it and never will.

Thorne: "Now is not the time to start panicking. All right? We have to think. There has to be something we can do."

Um, I beg to differ and am with Aladdin here:

Craig: "I don't know, is there some way to appeal to this guy? Huh? You know him better than I do."

Katie immediately shuts that notion down: "Yeah, I, um -- I wouldn't count on that." The understatement of the day.

Brooke: "Well, I mean, he didn't press charges against Thorne and Ridge when he fell." Yes and he did that for you, Brooke, not them.

Katie rolls her eyes: "Right, because he's changed. He's a changed man. Only Bill doesn't really change. He'll use this to get what he wants." And why shouldn't he? This was used to take his son away from him. Being a changed man does not mean being a doormat.

Thorne: "Why is that, exactly?"

Before Thorne can utter anymore stupid questions, the phone rings.

Ridge blanches as he looks down at his phone: "Speak of the devil. Spencer. Yeah?"

Bill, as cool as a cucumber: "I need to see you in my office." A beat while Ridge gulps: "Oh, and, uh, bring Katie and Brooke with you." Hilarious. Bill's not quite finished: "Ridge?" He doesn't wait for Ridge, who is speechless for once, to respond: "McMullen as well."

The jig is up, baby!

Ridge tries to deflect: "I don't think it's possible."

Bill is having NONE of this chicanery: "NOW."

He hangs up with a smile as Ridge starts to panic, telling the group: "Well, he wants to see us. All of us." Um, he didn't ask after Thorne, but we know his beak will join in.

An assistant who is not Alison ushers the group in, telling them "Mr. Spencer will be here with you shortly." I cannot wait. You can tell the walls are starting to close in on Ridge but he pretends to play it cool.

Thorne grouses: "Well, it's just like Spencer to make us wait."

Katie gives him an AYFKM look, then turns her fire on Ridge and Craig: "Well, we wouldn't be here at all if it weren't for you. Either of you. I swear to God, if I lose my son over this..."

I see cracks in her marriage already, but don't you dare pair her back with Bill.

Brooke attempts to be the voice of reason: "There's no point in arguing. Let's just wait and see what Bill has to say."

I know exactly what Bill is gonna say:

Thorne: "I know exactly what he's going to say. He'll be holding this over our heads for God knows how long." Well boo hoo, boo boo. You were so eager to get your clutches on Will and be the father you should have been to poor, dead Aly, that you didn't care how it happened.

Ridge is still paddling away on the River of De-nial: "We're not gonna let that happen."

Craig can't believe he allow himself to get into this mess: "I should be on the phone with a good lawyer instead of standing here waiting to be thrown to the lions." 

Katie: "It's probably part of his plan."

Thorne: "Maybe we should all stop talking. I wouldn't put anything past Spencer." I find it rich that they are whining about what Bill will do now that he found out what THEY did.

Justin swans in first: "Good. You're all here." We see Bill, unseen by the others, a few steps behind him.

Justin's face is...everything.

Bill makes his presence known by dramatically clearing his throat.

He ups the ante by slowly stalking to his desk. He sits down in his chair and leans back, again, slowly, while Justin leans against the back cabinet, knowing they so have the upper hand here.

Ridge tries to act like he's on the offensive when it's so clear he's not, scurrying over to SP the second Bill called: "What do you want?" Brooke knows better.

Bill's voice turns cutesy-sarcastic for a moment: "Are you playing coy with me, Ridge?" His voice changes then and it's deadly but also gleefully triumphant. "You know exactly what this is about. You. You and your boy here." He cocks his head toward Craig. "The "honorable" Craig McMullen. Turns out you're not so honorable after all. Are you, Craig? I couldn't understand it. I couldn't understand it at all when you made your decision in my custody hearing. I couldn't fathom how you could justify stripping me of my parental rights. It wasn't justice. It wasn't justice at all."

Ridge still looks like the arrogant prick he is but you can almost see the beads of sweat on Craig's forehead. He can't even look Bill in the eye.

Bill continues while Katie stares daggers at the pair: "It was a conspiracy -- violating due process, tampering with a judge? Naughty." He has a hint of a smile on his face here and Justin is out and out grinning and I LOVE IT!

Bill isn't finished: "And more than that, it was a crime. A very punishable crime." Ridge and Craig gulp as they hear him echoing their conversation, nearly word for word.

Ridge clears his throat, grasping at straws, sputtering: "That's speculation. You don't have any proof."

Bill swivels in his chair, looking up at Justin.

Justin, adorably, shrugs, then tilts his head as if to say why not roll that beautiful audio footage?

He hits play and BOOM goes the dynamite as everyone hears Craig's damning words: "We committed conspiracy, Ridge, and my expensive legal education warned me that that's what you were proposing when you strolled in and perched yourself on the other side of my desk."

Bill, stating the obvious, but it is glorious: "Gotcha."

Check...and...Mate...

[Cool Breeze]

4 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

Generally, Katie's histrionics get on my last nerve, but I was feeling her yesterday. She is right to be concerned how her actions will be viewed, but there stands Ridge, the cause of all this chaos, telling Katie to shut up. Fucker. You inserted yourself into a situation that was none of your business, then you broke the law, and now have all these other people in collusion. Katie could lose Will over this, but Ridge just can't be bothered with that because he had to get revenge on Bill for Steffy tripping and accidentally falling on his dick. 

It's funny you should say that.  I've concluded just recently that Katie is simply a dramatic person.  Everything is quivery or teary or yell-y.  Kind of loses its impact after awhile.  Same with NuRidge's constant gruff brusqueness, something I usually can't stand.  It's as if he can't modulate his behavior at all.  He's just always so curt and dismissive of everyone.  But, yesterday, with Katie immediately catastrophizing, I thought his shutting her down right away was actually appropriate.  Brooke actually seconded him.  And this seemed like more than just her regular passive dismissals, too.  Katie was spinning like a top and someone needed to bring her back to reality.

Why in the world would Katie lose her son over judge tampering she had nothing to do with?  She knew nothing about it until well after the judge's ruling.  I get her immediate concern but someone needed to talk sense into her asap.  Otherwise, she'll probably have another heart "episode".  But seems those only come on when convenient.

[ByTor]

5 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

Bill didn't ask for Thorne's presence, so the dodo implicated himself.

Bill did ask for Katie, though, so his defense could be that he was there as her husband.

2 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

An assistant who is not Alison ushers the group in, telling them "Mr. Spencer will be here with you shortly."

The way she delivered the line is what I liked.  "We're here to see Spencer" (because I guess there was a study somewhere that showed people sound 30 times tougher when they call someone by their last name *eyeroll*), and NotAlison replied "Mister Spencer will be with you shortly"

12 hours ago, drivethroo said:

I believe Stephanie and Pam grew up in/around Chicago.

They did!

17 hours ago, TigerLynx said:

Eric to Quinn, "I don't want you and Pam's personal issues brought to work."

Eric also tells Quinn to start treating Pam like family.  Gee, Eric, how about treating Quinn like your wife?

5 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

I don't think Bill is going to do a damn thing.

I don't either.  I think, to impress Brooke, he'll say he'll keep his mouth shut if the judge reverses his order & custody goes back to how it was.  But probably less than 1% of my predictions turn out to be correct.

[Gam2]

Is there a more useless or less impactful character on this show than Thorne? He just gets to stand around with his hands in his pockets until it’s time for his allotted one or two sentences that he’s allowed to speak. I guess TPTB understand that he can’t speak “American” so they limit his participation. Works for me. 

[nkotb]

Bill was on fire today! 

Bill: "Thorne, you weren't even invited." 

Bill: "Justin & I were just out for a nice, leisurely drive, something we like to do on a pretty day, I love you man *fist bump*..."

Justin: "Love you, too." *fist bump returned*

Bill is the king of the one-liners. If TPTB are ever stupid enough to let DD go, I will drop this show in a heartbeat.

[A-Lo]

As I was watching the scene in Bill's office today it occurred to me that Brooke has been married to three of the major players in that room...Ridge, Thorne and Bill...and Katie has been married to two of them and engaged to the other.  How bizarre is that?

[ByTor]

4 minutes ago, A-Lo said:

As I was watching the scene in Bill's office today it occurred to me that Brooke has been married to three of the major players in that room...Ridge, Thorne and Bill...and Katie has been married to two of them and engaged to the other.  How bizarre is that?

In real life?  Very.  On this show?  Not at all :)

[Waldo13]

I didn't think that Eric was capable of eye fucking Donna without viagra.  Donna and Pam the new Twiddle Dee and Twiddle Dumb.   

There is no more to say about Ridge.  Anything more and I would just be repeating myself which my kids accuse me of all the time.  

[Joimiaroxeu]

I thought Donna came back to town to help Katie with Will? If she's got a full-time job at FC that's not gonna work.

Ugh, AFAIC somebody needs to drop a house on Pam. Among other things she's still being disrespectful to Eric by pushing Donna to mess up his marriage.

Sure hope Bill was recording all those confessions being made in his office today. According to my degree from the Law & Order Night School of Law, every one of them is either a co-conspirator or an accomplice after the fact.

Good lawd, how is Pam not in an institution for the criminally insane? Her and Donna laughing that stuff off was not funny to me at all.

Why is up to Bill to be the forgiving one? Ridge and Thorne sure wouldn't be merciful if the situation were reversed. Bill is looking to me now like he's always going to be Ridge's patsy--at least as long as Brooke is still married to Ridge.

[ByTor]

2 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Anything more and I would just be repeating myself

That's inevitable, the show is so repetitive that our comments are bound to be as well :)

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

According to my degree from the Law & Order Night School of Law, every one of them is either a co-conspirator or an accomplice after the fact.

Which I'm sure is why Katie had her freak-out about losing custody.

[ByaNose]

Jennifer Garies looks amazing at 48. It’s amazing when your told you’re being put back on contract. You hit the gym and end up looking like Jennifer Garies. LOL!!!!!

Edited November 15, 2018 by ByaNose

[CharlizeCat]

I am going to be very disappointed if Bill just lets this whole thing fall by the wayside. To what? Impress Brooke? Who says she's going to leave Sludge? Especially if he gets let off the hook easily.

If there are no consequences, then this whole custody issue was for absolutely nothing. Well, it was fun to see Bill get one over on Ridge ... again ... but otherwise, what a waste of time. 

I like Donna OK, but it would be nice to let her have a role that's more than just being a ditzy blonde. I've had enough of Pam.  I agree that JG looks fantastic. I have been loving the pretty floral tops she's had on the past two days.  It's a toss-up between the green one she had on the other day and the current blue floral one.  I am not liking that halter top and sequinned pants Quinn's been sporting. They look tacky. 

[Anna Yolei]

16 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

I am going to be very disappointed if Bill just lets this whole thing fall by the wayside. To what? Impress Brooke? Who says she's going to leave Sludge? Especially if he gets let off the hook easily.

does anyone who isn't going off-contract to jail ever suffer consequences? LOL