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Once again we get what other people want especially Thorn and Donna, but I cannot reiterate it enough, it’s what Eric wants. Ridge and Eric have had numerous conversations on Eric’s wants but has Thorn or Donna?  In my humble opinion, they are speaking with their hearts and not their heads. Their head should tell them that Eric wants a quality of life and not whittle away sitting on a couch. 

 

Two doctors, neither of them specialists, who don’t belong operating on Eric, as family members, has never done this experimental procedure before.  What can go wrong?  It was a loosing battle until the cavalry was called in and we will soon find out if Eric chooses to stay or will be drawn into the light. 

 

Luna has the ability to elevate RJ’s acting almost to the level of tolerable. 

 

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4 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Luna has the ability to elevate RJ’s acting almost to the level of tolerable. 

Gotta disagree with that. I think he's gotten worse since day one. Or maybe I just didn't see how bad he is at first, since I was giving him the benefit of the doubt, but now, I can hardly tolerate him anymore. I can't wait for the character to be written back out. I hope RJ and Luna have a quickie wedding and go off on a long safari honeymoon. They look like a pair of salt and pepper shakers.

I may be the only one, but I find Eric's story line compelling. I've been watching every evening, instead of waiting until the weekend to binge watch like I usually do. Maybe because I'm still dealing with a personal loss, so the subject matter is somewhat relatable. I don't want JMcC to leave the show. Reading upthread that he's just resigned for 3 years is good news to me. But I'm always along for the ride with this show, whatever happens.

Watching Friday's episode I was gratified to see our girl, Stephanie, make an otherworldly appearance. Called it. My prediction for next week, or maybe it's just my hope, is that Eric and Stephanie have a nice visit but he decides that he's not done yet down here and he turns around and comes back. And considering that next week is the five episodes before xmas, it looks like we're in for a xmas miracle.

Whether we want one or not.

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Not sure they were going for levity, but I giggled a little bit when Thorne said:

"That could be a good sign.....or a bad one."

"Well, in terms of signs, that can't be a good one." (As the nurses rush past them)

And then we have the clueless Donna:

"Why is it taking so long?"

Hmmm.....let's see; blood transfusions and transplants. 

And the abhorrent Ridge:

"Wait and see, that's all you got for us?" 

What an ungrateful, short-sighted fuck you are. Bridget is also Eric's child, and no matter the myriad of violations involved, she was just in the operating room trying to save her dad. She is the one that had the panic and fear as he started to hemorrhage, and his vitals were falling. She was the one racing with Finn to find the spot where Eric was bleeding. They were the ones with the pressure and the stress, as you paced and pontificated. I wish Bridget had punched him in the throat. 

 

 

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10 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

Watching Friday's episode I was gratified to see our girl, Stephanie, make an otherworldly appearance. Called it.

OMGEE! And I just had a dream she did and we talked about how big of a fan I was of her since her Anjouli days!

And this is before I’ve watched this week’s episodes!

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Was it me, or was there some hint of them laying groundwork between Bridget and Finn?  I'd love to have Bridget back full time, but not as the off ramp they use to get to the "twu wuv" of Steam. 

I was legitimately shocked to see Stephanie, and a soap hasn't legitimately shocked me in quite some time. So, good on them for that. And now they've got me questioning my certainty that Eric isn't dying.  SF coming back makes me think it is JMc's exit, but at the same time, it would be really shitty if they didn't also manage to get the rest of his kids back in town for it, too. I'd think most of the actors involved would be willing to come back even just for one day out of respect for him, even if they weren't thrilled with the show when they left. 

I agree that this has been dragging and ridiculous at times, but I'm going to miss it when we get Liam back on screen four out of five days a week, being a gigantic asshole.

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1 hour ago, KerleyQ said:

And now they've got me questioning my certainty that Eric isn't dying.  SF coming back makes me think it is JMc's exit

A few people have posted here that JMc just signed a new 3 year deal with B&B, so it’s likely Eric lives…..unless, the new contract was a rumor or elaborate ploy put out by B&B to make folks think JMc is staying on. Dun-dun-dun!  

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Apparently whoever said that about his contract has come out stating that they misremembered the contract thing and that it was signed back in 2029, not this year. So many he'll die after all.

3 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

I'm going to miss it when we get Liam back on screen four out of five days a week, being a gigantic asshole.

NGL, Finn getting the ten foot W of saving Eric and killing Steam for good is the biggest reason why I'm pulling for Eric to make it through.

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1 hour ago, Anna Yolei said:

NGL, Finn getting the ten foot W of saving Eric and killing Steam for good is the biggest reason why I'm pulling for Eric to make it through

This is the dream. This, and Ridge being put out when Eric wants to keep the top job. If both Liam and Ridge have to eat shit, all the better.

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3 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

Was it me, or was there some hint of them laying groundwork between Bridget and Finn?  I'd love to have Bridget back full time, but not as the off ramp they use to get to the "twu wuv" of Steam. 

I thought the same thing.  Bridget was looking at Finn like he was the tastiest snack ever, and he was wearing a cap and face mask at the time.  

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3 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

Apparently whoever said that about his contract has come out stating that they misremembered the contract thing and that it was signed back in 2029, not this year. So many he'll die after all.

Well, that's interesting about the contract signing.

If it was indeed 2019, then this may well be his swan song, which means all of this dragged out story line may not be in vain after all.

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So apparently that Stephanie clip was an old clip they used from 2008. 
 

🥱 on another note RJ/Luna are now in love, I have ONE question. Do they have a libido???

Inquiring minds would like to know 🤔 🧐 cuz…. 😴 

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5 hours ago, bluvelvet said:

So apparently that Stephanie clip was an old clip they used from 2008. 
 

🥱 on another note RJ/Luna are now in love, I have ONE question. Do they have a libido???

Inquiring minds would like to know 🤔 🧐 cuz…. 😴 

Out of all Brooke's children, he's the only one who has managed to make it to drinking age without getting hitched (or attempting to in Hope's case)

By this family's standards he's practically puritan 😭

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What the FUCK is Steffy wearing? She looks like the human embodiment of a mullet.

You know, Ridge did the right thing by trying to honor Eric’s wishes, but he’s such an arrogant asshole about it that he’s completely unsympathetic . We’ll never know if Eric would have chosen the experimental treatment because Finn never got to present it as an option. Even knowing that Ridge is expressing his worry that he betrayed his dad’s wishes, he still comes across as a dick who just wanted to be done with the old man. I know that’s not how the writers mean for it to look, but it’s hitting me that way. I suppose he’s going to double down on dickishness by promoting RJ way over his head. 

Finn and Bridget looked like they were playing live action Operation with Eric in those flashbacks. I kept waiting for them to get zapped.

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What the fuck is Zende’s malfunction. Just because he looks like a prick it doesn’t mean he has to act like a prick yelling at RJ. What does RJ have anything to do with Ridge’s decision. 

 

Sorry Zende, but it’s going to be Ridge and RJ to finish Eric’s vision. Too bad so sad for Zende. That’s what you get for pulling a Lurch in going after another person’s girlfriend. 

 

Was there a connotation that RJ and Luna went beyond the kissing stage?  It seemed that way to me. 

 

Brooke, get your stinking cooter off Eric’s bed!  Your gems are unwanted. 

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Ridge really needs RJ at his side?  The guy with no training or education at all. Instead of the 2 people with actual design knowledge Zende or Thomas. 

Luna whining he'll come back to us? Who the hell is she that this is so focused on her more than Bridget or Thorne?

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So let me get this straight: cancer now gives you brain damage?! The way Fuckwit Ridge is talking about Eric not being the same or when he wakes up -he’ll be like some amnesiac who’s forgotten who he is or how to design.

AND, Eric was SUFFERING before he keeled over. How is that “going in peace/peacefully”? His definition of peace is different from mine. ARSEHOLE.

ALSO-WHY is everyone acting like Eric DIED? The tears and “planning” about what Eric wanted, his legacy, etc. How about WAIT until. He flatlines and he’s in the casket, people!!!

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Oh Zende. Poor deluded Zende lol.

I have to admit though, RJ is turning into an arrogant arsehole, just like his dad. The folded arms and scowl when Zende got overexcited to tell Ridge and RJ about his idea to finish Eric's collection. And Ridge and RJ practically laughing behind their hands at him.

I hope this becomes a story line because ANYTHING is better than this drawn out will he or won't he die Eric saga.

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RJ's face when Zende was talking he was looking like he was an evil jerk.  Zende was one hundred percent right,  why does RJ get everything handed without working for anything. 

Ridge condescending telling Zende that he can find a place for him to work with him and the tiktok kid.  

Even Hope has issue with RJ helping do the line. 

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On 12/18/2023 at 5:29 PM, NinjaPenguins said:

Finn and Bridget looked like they were playing live action Operation with Eric in those flashbacks. I kept waiting for them to get zapped.

If Eric wakes up and his funny bone is gone...

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Why does it seem that Luna is advocating, to Carter, for Zende to complete Eric’s line?  Is Luna starting to fall for Zende 🤮🤢?  Does it seem that Hope is upset that Ridge didn’t choose Lurch to complete the line?  

 

Excuse me but Zende it’s not very wise to make demands of Ridge that you are the one that has to complete Eric’s line.  Zende, with all your schooling and training you completely failed with the HFTF designs.  

 

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3 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Excuse me but Zende it’s not very wise to make demands of Ridge that you are the one that has to complete Eric’s line.  Zende, with all your schooling and training you completely failed with the HFTF designs.  

 

To be fair, Eric failed HFTF too.

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I'm team Zende. Everything he said to Sludge The Greasy Hobo was true. Sludge The Greasy Hobo is a heartless bastard. And besides, Eric has been Zende's grandfather longer than he has been RJ's. Eric chose RJ to help him because he was embarrassed about his condition and wanted to hide it. He figured he could fool RJ the most. Sludge The Greasy Hobo should be bringing the whole entire design team together to honor Eric and finish Eric's line. Including Eric's children who are on safari. Not only a very select few - him and his chosen son, and excluding Zende and Thomas, two bona fide successful Forrester designers and family. Fuck Sludge The Greasy Hobo. And can we just put a paper bag over RJ's head? Or at least put him in full drag?

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Zende has a right to want to be part of his family’s business. He’s been working there for years so RJ showing up and becoming the latest golden boy is bullshit. But RJ is nice and Zendes a bit of a prick so viewers are supposed to be team RJ. 
What the hell? I thought Eric went to heaven on Friday? I didn’t necessarily want him to pass away but they made it appear as though he did. Now he’s fighting for his life? 

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Thursday 12/21

 

 

Bridget, if you’re such a great doctor, you would know if Eric could breathe on his own.  That’s one of the functions of a ventilator which would tell you that Eric is triggering the machine or the machine is triggering automatically for Eric to breathe.  As long as the brain is receiving oxygen, there is the possibility of rem eye movement.  If Eric can’t breathe on his own, the brain will die. As I said before, the ventilator will tell them if Eric is able to breathe on his own. 

 

Bald and wearing a turtle neck makes Zende defiantly look like a dick head.  Why is Luna feeling so sympathetic towards Zende even to the point that Ridge passed him over in favor of RJ.  The chemistry test between Luna and Zende 🤢🤢🤮. At least with RJ is only 🤢🤮.  Instead of rushing to the hospital, Zende rather flirt with Luna. What a grandson. 

 

I think of Lurch and Zende in the same. They are  entitled elitists who think that their shit doesn’t stink. 

Friday 12/22

 

I don’t know how many times I have to say this but the ventilator will tell them if Eric can breathe on his own.  If they are worried about blood clots, infection, or pneumonia, there are drugs available to combat these conditions. There is also no guarantee he wouldn’t have these complications once off the ventilator. Rapid eye movement only means Eric is getting oxygen to his brain so he would still have brain activity. 

 

Zende, while in Europe, you should have gone to acting school instead of design school.  Now you suck at both. 

 

Why would we not believe that Eric would not pull through especially on Christmas.  It’s not a Christmas miracle though, it’s a soap opera miracle.  I got to ask, if Finn and Bridget were so worried about Eric’s health, why did they let so many people into Eric’s room bringing all types is germs?  At least make them wear masks. 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, aussieinsydney said:

I honestly can't tell if Eric is happy to be cured or pissed off.

I was expecting his first words to be, "who are you?".

John McCook deserved this story line. After they gave him the erectile dysfunction story they owed him big time. And I'm so glad he's still on the show.

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8 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Bridget, if you’re such a great doctor, you would know if Eric could breathe on his own.  That’s one of the functions of a ventilator which would tell you that Eric is triggering the machine or the machine is triggering automatically for Eric to breathe.  As long as the brain is receiving oxygen, there is the possibility of rem eye movement.  If Eric can’t breathe on his own, the brain will die. As I said before, the ventilator will tell them if Eric is able to breathe on his own. 

 

8 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

don’t know how many times I have to say this but the ventilator will tell them if Eric can breathe on his own.  If they are worried about blood clots, infection, or pneumonia, there are drugs available to combat these conditions. There is also no guarantee he wouldn’t have these complications once off the ventilator. Rapid eye movement only means Eric is getting oxygen to his brain so he would still have brain activity. 

Because this is a soap and all of them don’t bother to do the most basic research on medical, legal, business stuff. They made more of an effort and better back in the day-70s-90s.

At this point, all I can do is 🙄🙄🙄 because the writers are too lazy.

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I truly thought that when Eric woke up and looked around at all the machines, he was going to be angry and berate everybody for keeping him alive. 

TBH, I would rather have had the usual sappy holiday gathering at the Forrester mansion than sit through this prolonged doom and gloom for six weeks (seemed like 1,000). Even listening to everybody being forced to say something disingenuous about the person to their right would have been an improvement. 

 

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34 minutes ago, Chatty Cake said:

My favorite thing about this story was not seeing Liam. 

I've been saying that for a little while, but jfc the RJ and Luna scenes for 2/3 of every episode recently has me wanting the old waffler back! Brooke...er, I mean, Lord help me!

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17 minutes ago, aussieinsydney said:

I've been saying that for a little while, but jfc the RJ and Luna scenes for 2/3 of every episode recently has me wanting the old waffler back! Brooke...er, I mean, Lord help me!

I do need Luna to shut the f up about Eric. She’s only been in town for a short time and it’s not like he’s her grandad. RJ’s a bit annoying too although he’s much nicer than his pappy so I feel like I should give him a chance.

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I've always been pretty indifferent to Bridget but, with Eric's health crisis, she has become hard to watch.  Her crying and weeping over Eric is, of course, appropriate.  In her capacity as his daughter.  Not as his doctor.  That's why you can't be both!  Operating on her own father?  While pleading for "Daddy" to fight?  No.

Pick a lane, Budge.

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9 hours ago, Cool Breeze said:

she has become hard to watch.

It's funny, I was thinking just the opposite. I've been appreciating what a better actor she is than several, (okay most), of the other "actors" in this story line.

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13 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

My favorite thing about this story was not seeing Liam. 

That part. And with Finn saving the day, not even the temptation of being Hope's man will be enough to pull Steffy back to him again.

You love to see it :)

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Only this show could draw out an extubation like it was the long awaited conclusion to a love triangle or murder mystery. The hospital should have sold tickets to the procedure since audiences are apparently welcomed and encouraged. I really did think when Eric opened his eyes and looked at everyone, he was going to tell them all to go to hell.

Brooke, please put that bible away. It’s just not believable. If Stephanie had that book in her house, it was hollowed out to hold a bottle or a gun.

I don’t normally want to see Liam, but I am so looking forward to seeing him suck defeat through a straw. 

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6 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

That part. And with Finn saving the day, not even the temptation of being Hope's man will be enough to pull Steffy back to him again.

You love to see it :)

That is my favorite part of all of this. They had better give us the scene of Steffy gushing to Liam about how Finn saved her beloved grandfather. It's too bad Wyatt's gone, because I'd love to see his reaction to Liam trying to whine to him about that. 

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Liam should go ahead and buy something tacky for Steffy for V-Day. By then she will have caught Finn & Bridget doing something tres naughty...

Their soulful looks over Eric's bloody, comatose body as they fumbled among cotton swabs and Finn's groping Bridget on one side of Eric's bed as Steffy wept with joy on the OTHER side of the bed are such blatant red flags. Maybe it's writer misdirection, maybe not. But it's time for a different storyline, and I vote YES !!

[Sorry for the random flag, but I can't make it go away 🇨🇻

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