B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat

[Crashcourse]

The most interesting part of this episode was the zombie dancing.

[bluvelvet]

1 hour ago, Crashcourse said:

The most interesting part of this episode was the zombie dancing.

😂🤭...This comment took me out HAHAHAHA - although I did enjoy the slow side to side

You know what I noticed today..

Thomas/MA trimmed his beard FINALLY!! It looked so much nicer and neater. The scene where Steffy caught them in the office, I felt sorry for poor Hope/AN's skin because his beard seemed to be sticking out at random spots and angles..

MA just got married so I guess he neatened up the beard..

[Peppermint]

Spoiler

Hasn't "Eric" signed a new 3 year contract ?? What, is he going to keep coming back like the ghost of John Abbot ??

This death bed scene has lasted w  a  y  too long. Wake me for the cure.

[KerleyQ]

So, does the show just want to pretend that the whole Massimo is really Ridge's father thing never happened?  I mean, I think it's great that, to Eric, Ridge has never been even an ounce less his son than he was before the reveal, because that is how it should be when you've raised someone. But, when they write in things like a "good genes," line between Steffy and Eric, it makes me wonder if we're just supposed to forget it ever happened.

I was just waiting for Eric to full on pass out and everyone having to pretend that it was something so completely normal and not at all a reason for concern. Maybe RJ and Katie could fake fainting, too, and everyone could be like "woo, it must be too warm in here."  

[NinjaPenguins]

How can anyone say that Ridge has no affect? I find him quite convincing as a humorless prick and dictatorial ass who is trying to forcibly stage manage everyone’s grief.

Eric’s obliviousness defies belief. I guess you could chalk it up to denial, but his family has piss poor pretending skills.

Finn is still at work researching his miracle cure for Eric, isn’t he? Good luck competing with that, Liam.

[norcalgal]

7 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

Clayton Norcross was Thorne #1, followed by Jeff Trachta for ten years. WH was the third.

And there were absolutely no other Thorne 🙃🫠

I can’t tell if you’re being jokey, but there was also the blink and you missed it Thorne portrayed by Ingo Rademacher.  Complete waste of time and actor. 

50 minutes ago, KerleyQ said:

So, does the show just want to pretend that the whole Massimo is really Ridge's father thing never happened?  I mean, I think it's great that, to Eric, Ridge has never been even an ounce less his son than he was before the reveal, because that is how it should be when you've raised someone. But, when they write in things like a "good genes," line between Steffy and Eric, it makes me wonder if we're just supposed to forget it ever happened.

Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if they retcon the Marone ancestry.  Less legit for Steffy/Ridge to lord it over people (and for Steffy The Logans!), if they are not blood Forresters.

[Soapy Goddess]

4 hours ago, Peppermint said:

  Reveal spoiler

Hasn't "Eric" signed a new 3 year contract ?? What, is he going to keep coming back like the ghost of John Abbot ??

This death bed scene has lasted w  a  y  too long. Wake me for the cure.

Death bed scene?? I'm so bored I didn't even make it to that scene!

[RuntheTable]

So, I would assume Finn was late because he was feverishly searching for the Soap Opera cancer cure? Too bad Bridget only just found out; she could have thrown in an assist with Google. 

[Waldo13]

Eric got exactly what he wanted and so did the party goes. He said what he needed to say to his family and address everyone instead of everyone addressing him while lying in a coffin thinking, if I’m alive what am I doing hear and if I’m dead, why do I have to go to the bathroom. 

 

Did they need a caterer just to buy champagne?  

[Anna Yolei]

13 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Didn’t he also boink her? After it was revealed she wasn’t his daughter and he wasn’t a real Forrester so it was okay to boink her? Despite he helped deliver her and that she might have been his child?

Thankfully, no. There's been some conflicts as to whether CBS or even Brad Bell's own mother put their put down on going further than a scant few kisses they did share, but it got cut off before it went further.

Still, it's for good reason that shitshow was the watermark against which every other bad story was compared to before Beth's kidnapping burst through and smashed records like Michael Phelps at the Beijing Olympics. Hell, personally that wouldn't even rank in the top 5 of worst B&B plots anymore as the 20s have been bad plot after increasingly dismal bad plot and in the case of Eric's ED dilemma, genuinely offensive.

[GHScorpiosRule]

3 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

Thankfully, no. There's been some conflicts as to whether CBS or even Brad Bell's own mother put their put down on going further than a scant few kisses they did share, but it got cut off before it went further.

Yay for small favors, I guess? I mean here we have Eric, who's boinked all the Logan women, save Katie. That's creepy enough.

And while I checked out years ago, I can't connect this Bridget with the original SORAS'd one, played by Jennifer Finnegan. I suppose the one who's now on screen has played adult Bridget the longest?

58 minutes ago, Waldo13 said:

Eric got exactly what he wanted and so did the party goes. He said what he needed to say to his family

Except not ALL of his family. Several children were missing/not there. And if he doesn't want anyone to know he's "dying" then why have this farewell party, where only family is invited and not friends as well? It's a stupid storyline and I don't know if it was started by the original writers or the scab writers during the strike, and whose writing we are seeing play out. No one is really enjoying themselves--just watching to see what happens with Eric-gawking, concerned/scared expressions.

Eric's cancer/disease is definitely a soap opera created one as I've never heard of a cancer that shows physical symptoms as uncontrollable shaking hands and coughing up blood at the same time. I haven't really been watching this play out because I'm still not over the fucking insulting "treatment" of another character on the other soap when she was supposedly undergoing chemo.

And apparently Donna is a-okayee with Eric's repeated statements about seeing Stephanie soon.

 

[Anna Yolei]

10 hours ago, norcalgal said:

I can’t tell if you’re being jokey, but there was also the blink and you missed it Thorne portrayed by Ingo Rademacher.  Complete waste of time and actor. 

Oh I was 😂 and you're right that the the only recast more poorly received than Kaye's was this. God, what a complete waste indeed. His stance against COVID vaccination means he'll never darken the door of a California soap ever again, so there's that.

10 hours ago, norcalgal said:

Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if they retcon the Marone ancestry.  Less legit for Steffy/Ridge to lord it over people (and for Steffy The Logans!), if they are not blood Forresters.

They won't, since they already had Steffy and Rick boink and that would mean she boned a biological uncle.

I genuinely hated that Bell turned what could've been a more compelling story highlighting Stephanie's hypocrisy and reexamine the revisionist history of The Logans™ ruining her life into PornHub plot fodder. But then, even William Bell himself wrote a story about Christine Blair dating a guy with a strong possibility of being her brother where she didn't let that deter her, so..... :\

2 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And while I checked out years ago, I can't connect this Bridget with the original SORAS'd one, played by Jennifer Finnegan. I suppose the one who's now on screen has played adult Bridget the longest?

She was on the show from '04 or '05 until some time after 2011, so yeah.

 

[KerleyQ]

25 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Yay for small favors, I guess? I mean here we have Eric, who's boinked all the Logan women, save Katie. That's creepy enough.

At one point, it seemed like they might go there with him and Katie, too, maybe a few years or so ago, when she bought the house next door. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 minute ago, KerleyQ said:

At one point, it seemed like they might go there with him and Katie, too, maybe a few years or so ago, when she bought the house next door. 

🤢

[Cool Breeze]

2 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

But then, even William Bell himself wrote a story about Christine Blair dating a guy with a strong possibility of being her brother where she didn't let that deter her, so..... :\

You mean the potential incest storyline Bill Bell wrote for his own daughter to act out onscreen?  These Bells have issues.  

[Gam2]

Dare we hope that Eric is finally taking the dirt nap after this long, long goodbye?

[Crashcourse]

And just bury him with a jar of honey.

[bluvelvet]

I love how Hope went from “shh keep this NSA between us “ to practically being draped on Thomas at this party lol.

She’s always touching him ..

Everyone with glassy teary eyes 🥺 

[SweePea59]

19 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

But, when they write in things like a "good genes," line between Steffy and Eric, it makes me wonder if we're just supposed to forget it ever happened.

They did follow that right up with Eric saying how much Steffy was like her grandmother Stephanie, and getting better with age like her as well.

[Waldo13]

Is it over or is it just a red herring that Finn miraculously saves Eric. Taylor, just a run of the mill psychologist becomes world renown and now Finn is elevated from an emergency room doctor to a world renown Oncologist to save Eric.  If Finn saves Eric, then he’s broken HIPPA rules to do so. Even though Finn is a doctor,  he cannot obtain any of Eric’s medical records without written consent from Eric and only Eric. 

[Crashcourse]

Well, since this is B&B, I doubt violating the HIPAA rules will stop Finn from miraculously saving Eric. 

[CharlizeCat]

It's unfortunate that Eric keeled over before he could adopt Carter. 

[Artsda]

Oh no he's not going to die is he.  He really didn't realize everyone knew when they were all crying over him. 

 

 

[FancyRhubarb]

36 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

Well, since this is B&B, I doubt violating the HIPAA rules will stop Finn from miraculously saving Eric. 

HIPAA rules are for suckers and Satanists!

Although if Finn manages to pull out the cure for whatever is killing Eric, Liam is going to have a hell of a time getting in between him and Steffy. It's really satisfying watching both Hope and Steffy commit to whatever they've got going on (I can't call Thomas and Hope a relationship) and flat out reject his lame attempts at keeping them on ice. He deserves it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[nilyank]

4 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

It's unfortunate that Eric keeled over before he could adopt Carter. 

But he had previously adopted Carter's adoptive brother Marcus.

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Monday will show Eric unconscious with everyone sobbing over him when Finn finally arrives and gives him a miraculous experimental injection!  

[bluvelvet]

10 hours ago, Artsda said:

Oh no he's not going to die is he.  He really didn't realize everyone knew when they were all crying over him. 

 

 

🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

That party was like a funeral prelude.. if I was somewhere and everyone was looking me like that. I’d be hella suspicious 🤨 

[SweePea59]

Oh bluvelvet, we're having a party this afternoon in your honor. No reason really. Just get glammed up and be there by two o'clock, okay?

[SweePea59]

Well, that was just weird. First, in case I haven't said it recently, I hate TK. But his wretched performance on Friday's episode takes my hatred to a new level. Eric, literally out of the blue, confronts Sludge, the greasy hobo with the ass-inine accent, about winning the fashion show-down and all Sludge can do is stand there expressionless like he's waiting in line at the pharmacy counter at Walgreens and thinking about buying some cupcakes on the way home. Eric works himself up into a frenzy, and no one says a word. Then Eric has an about-face and says what Sludge did was the most generous thing ever. And gushes over the greasy hobo with the ass-inine accent, Sludge, while his bio non-favorite son Thorne looks on. Then Eric collapses like hold-on-Elizabeth-I'm-coming and no one has the good sense to call 911. Not even Zende, who we know had his phone with him since he used it to fill the room with music, somehow. I guess he had an app for the speakers in Eric's living room. It was as though they were a crowd of strangers, not the people closest to Eric. And since this was a B&B Friday cliff hanger... is there anyone out there who thinks Eric actually died? 

[NinjaPenguins]

I missed yesterday’s episode taking the dog to the groomer (don’t worry, I made an appointment for Ridge before I left). Eric found out he didn’t win the fashion challenge?

44 minutes ago, SweePea59 said:

Then Eric collapses like hold-on-Elizabeth-I'm-coming and no one has the good sense to call 911

I’m still irritated that Donna didn’t finish calling 911 the other day when he collapsed. 

[bluvelvet]

11 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

Oh bluvelvet, we're having a party this afternoon in your honor. No reason really. Just get glammed up and be there by two o'clock, okay?

🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨

[Anna Yolei]

On 12/8/2023 at 8:01 AM, KerleyQ said:

At one point, it seemed like they might go there with him and Katie, too, maybe a few years or so ago, when she bought the house next door. 

They were chem testing SOOOO in hard for God knows what cursed ass reason. Thank God they dropped that.

[KerleyQ]

So, Eric can tell the nuance of some facial expressions to understand right away that he didn't actually win the showdown, but he's spent the past two episodes with his entire family very obviously holding back tears (and in some cases, not holding them back) and making proclamations like "you'll always be with me," and he can't put it together that they all know he's dying? Does Soap Opera Cancer make one selectively stupid? 

[Soapy Goddess]

20 hours ago, Foghorn Leghorn said:

Monday will show Eric unconscious with everyone sobbing over him when Finn finally arrives and gives him a miraculous experimental injection!  

Or maybe just a shot of insulin?  I mean if Eric is "dying" then you know it's got to be something fairly easy to bring him back into conscientiousness. 

[SweePea59]

8 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

So, Eric can tell the nuance of some facial expressions to understand right away that he didn't actually win the showdown,

You think that there were nuances in Sludge's expressionless face? You are very generous about TK's acting choices. He basically looked like a grinning idiot while his beloved father had a meltdown. Man, I miss Ronnn Mosss.

[SweePea59]

Put me down for nutmeg in the French lace. I don't know how that would happen, but I'm sure it's as plausible as what they've come up with.

[NinjaPenguins]

1 hour ago, SweePea59 said:

Man, I miss Ronnn Mosss.

I can’t honestly say that I will ever miss the Moss man and his unappealing head of hair, but at least his bad acting made me genuinely laugh out loud. TK’s Ridge has leaned into the arrogant, cold, smug, self righteous, imperious prick thing wayyyyy too far. I so hope Eric survives and Ridge has to eat shit when he won’t relinquish the CEO chair. 

[KerleyQ]

2 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

I can’t honestly say that I will ever miss the Moss man and his unappealing head of hair, but at least his bad acting made me genuinely laugh out loud. TK’s Ridge has leaned into the arrogant, cold, smug, self righteous, imperious prick thing wayyyyy too far. I so hope Eric survives and Ridge has to eat shit when he won’t relinquish the CEO chair. 

Even when TK was a much better actor than he's been on B&B, this was one of his major weaknesses.  I suspect he's been going for Ridge being stoic and holding it all together for his father and family, but whenever TK tries to play something like that, he just comes across as a cold asshole. It was the same way when he was on AMC. Any time Zach needed to be stoic or serious, he came across as a condescending emotionless asshole. It really made a couple of already shitty storylines way worse. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

I’ll add my vote to @SweePea59 to missing Ron Moss*-with the caveat that I had always dubbed him “Ken” as I called this soap when it first premiered the Ken and Barbie Show. So wooden and flat at first, but he had his moments and his relationship with Eric was believable. 
 

There has to have been someone, ANYONE else, with a ripped body and who looked and could act like the sophisticated character Ridge is supposed to be.

I softened towards him when I learned he was a member of one of my favorite bands from the 70s-Player-with the amazing hit, “Baby Come Back” and when I learned he could no longer play Ridge due to an accident that had him unable to remember his lines/memory.

Edited December 10, 2023 by GHScorpiosRule

[Foghorn Leghorn]

40 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I’ll add my vote to @SweePea59 to missing Ron Moss*-with the caveat that I had always dubbed him “Ken” as I called this soap when it first premiered the Ken and Barbie Show. So wooden and flat at first, but he had his moments and his relationship with Eric was believable. 
 

There has to have been someone, ANYONE else, with a ripped body and who looked and could act like the sophisticated character Ridge is supposed to be.

I softened towards him when I learned he was a member of one of my favorite bands from the 70s-Player-with the amazing hit, “Baby Come Back” and when I learned he could no longer play Ridge due to an accident that had him unable to remember his lines/memory.

Ron Moss had an accident affecting his memory?  

[CharlizeCat]

He and his wife were in a car accident in L.A. It happened maybe almost a year before he quit B&B. I don't remember him specifically saying that the accident affected his memory. What I read was that RM used the time after the accident to do some thinking and it was implied that he decided he'd prefer to spend his time working on music instead of acting.

I had also read that RM said that it was becoming more difficult to memorize lines. But I inferred that he was talking more about the natural memory loss that comes along with aging, not necessarily anything linked to the car accident.

In any case, I miss him. I guess I was one of the only few viewers who liked RM. He wasn't the best actor, but I thought he was drop-dead handsome and he seemed more like the way Ridge was intended. I think TK is just awful in the role.  He is just awful in any romantic scenes and has zero chemistry with KKL. I could never picture that version of a young Ridge as an L.A. playboy. 

 

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Thanks @CharlizeCat.  I didn’t know or remember that.  

I too loved Ron Moss who exuded elegance and charm and looked like a model himself.  He and KKL sure did have chemistry.  I didn’t like TK right from the get go with his chopped speech and bull in a china shop approach never mind how his appearance was the opposite of RM.  

[Crashcourse]

3 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I softened towards him when I learned he was a member of one of my favorite bands from the 70s-Player-with the amazing hit, “Baby Come Back” and when I learned he could no longer play Ridge due to an accident that had him unable to remember his lines/memory.

I still have that 45.

[GHScorpiosRule]

3 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

He and his wife were in a car accident in L.A. It happened maybe almost a year before he quit B&B. I don't remember him specifically saying that the accident affected his memory. What I read was that RM used the time after the accident to do some thinking and it was implied that he decided he'd prefer to spend his time working on music instead of acting.

I had also read that RM said that it was becoming more difficult to memorize lines. But I inferred that he was talking more about the natural memory loss that comes along with aging, not necessarily anything linked to the car accident.

In any case, I miss him. I guess I was one of the only few viewers who liked RM. He wasn't the best actor, but I thought he was drop-dead handsome and he seemed more like the way Ridge was intended. I think TK is just awful in the role.  He is just awful in any romantic scenes and has zero chemistry with KKL. I could never picture that version of a young Ridge as an L.A. playboy. 

 

I did some googling after starting to rewatch again to find out why Ron left and found an interview where he was quoted as stating the memory loss was due to the accident and that’s why he left.

Let me clarify that while I didn’t think he was the greatest actor, he was hot. And that Body! I remember reading and mocking Ridge and Brooke’s love scenes as Victoria Secrets’ catalogues come to life with all the lingerie Brooke wore.😂😂😂

I know for a short while Lane Davies played Ridge-and he was also a miscast-then Ron came back.

Anyway. My point is that I refuse to believe they couldn’t find someone who was sexy and sophisticated to play Ridge. Look at all the successful Thorne recasts.

Back to Friday: So Eric collapses and “dies” without coughing up blood?

[norcalgal]

14 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I know for a short while Lane Davies played Ridge

🤯  🤯🤯  Mason Capwell?!?!  That must have happened when I was on a B&B hiatus.  Lucky me, as I just CANNOT picture him portraying suave, effortlessly charming, man-about-town Ridge.  

[GHScorpiosRule]

9 minutes ago, norcalgal said:

🤯  🤯🤯  Mason Capwell?!?!  That must have happened when I was on a B&B hiatus.  Lucky me, as I just CANNOT picture him portraying suave, effortlessly charming, man-about-town Ridge.  

Yes! Original Recipe Mason Capwell!

[Anna Yolei]

15 hours ago, norcalgal said:

🤯  🤯🤯  Mason Capwell?!?!  That must have happened when I was on a B&B hiatus.  Lucky me, as I just CANNOT picture him portraying suave, effortlessly charming, man-about-town Ridge.  

If you're interested, it was right around the time Ridge and Taylor came back from their first honeymoon in '92 and only for a few weeks. He has only slightly more chemistry with KKL as TK does, but at least he didn't scream all his damn lines.

Kinda interesting that he looks more similar to TK than RM.

[NinjaPenguins]

22 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

In any case, I miss him. I guess I was one of the only few viewers who liked RM

I thought I was one of the few to not find him attractive. 😆My mom and aunts thought he was the bees knees. I could be persuaded to miss him after experiencing Ridge today. Woof.

Steffy, take that ridiculous thing out of your hair.

[GHScorpiosRule]

Wellll????? Is Eric dead or not?

[Waldo13]

The proof is in. Zende is a worse actor than RJ.  I would say the only decent actor of the bunch is Luna. 

 

And the plot thickens. Finn has come up with an unknown experimental treatment for an unknown medical condition. WTF?  There are so many things wrong here. Blood cleansing and a transplant?  Now we have an unknown transplant. In addition, the specialist has passed off Eric’s care to basically a general practitioner.  Yeah right, that’s typical soap opera hospital protocol.