jay741982 March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Angel12d said: That's a no from me. ? MG and Crew determined to hit 0.3 or 0.2 12 Link to comment
Mellowyellow March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, jay741982 said: MG and Crew determined to hit 0.3 or 0.2 Will be even funnier if the Live thread is dead that day. 2 Link to comment
insomniadreams88 March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, Angel12d said: Such a bad idea so late in the season. 4 Link to comment
jay741982 March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mellowyellow said: Will be even funnier if the Live thread is dead that day. Yep! Or filled with WTF IS THIS SHIT NO ONE CARES! 2 minutes ago, insomniadreams88 said: Such a bad idea so late in the season. It's SO SO Unbelievably a Bad idea. Our luck it's probably something like OTA is out of Comission for some reason and NTA has to save the day. You know what if 619 is full of Just NTA, BS, and DDragon I want a 620 Bottle Episode with Olicity Dessert and on their Honeymoon than them along with Dig/Lyla have to save the day wherever they are hell make it a couples retreat or some shit for Olicity and Dyla 9 Link to comment
thegirlsleuth March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, Mellowyellow said: Will be even funnier if the Live thread is dead that day. As a person who can't watch until Pacific Time and just read the live threads, often the comments are more numerous (and funnier) than when the episodes are good. 5 Link to comment
Primal Slayer March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Cleanqueen said: I think david, emily and Stephen are all contracted to make an appearance in each episode so I am sure they will pop up at some point. I wouldn't be shocked if it is the last minute though. Yeah they are contracted for 23 episodes so it's a waste of money not to use them. Link to comment
lemotomato March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 I thought Ken P said that none of the regulars were filming? That includes the newbies. Link to comment
Primal Slayer March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, jay741982 said: Yep! Or filled with WTF IS THIS SHIT NO ONE CARES! It's SO SO Unbelievably a Bad idea. Our luck it's probably something like OTA is out of Comission for some reason and NTA has to save the day. You know what if 619 is full of Just NTA, BS, and DDragon I want a 620 Bottle Episode with Olicity Dessert and on their Honeymoon than them along with Dig/Lyla have to save the day wherever they are hell make it a couples retreat or some shit for Olicity and Dyla I think it's more going to be the villains pov Link to comment
Aeryn13 March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 Are they trying to mirror Legends? Because last Season LOT had a hilarious episode focused on the villains (with minimal heroes) and just recently this Season another one. But on Legends that works because the show is quirky and embraces a certain goof factor so when you have villains gleefully chewing scenery, it fits well within the vibe of the show. To my knowledge fans really enjoyed at least the Legion of Doom ep last year. For Arrow, that is a horrible idea, though. The show has a completely different tone. The villains aren`t that colourful and vibrant. I mean, even the same villains. There is world between Dakrh on Arrow and Darkh on Legends. Right now I would watch maybe a funny episode about Anatoly but that`s it. I don`t know what they are thinking this year. I believe the writers actually think NTA are in the right via the dialogue like Curtis talking down Dinah from killing via pointing out how they are not evil - like Oliver. Yet at the same time they make them smug, lacking total self-awareness and giving OTA introspective scenes where they are showing wisdom and kindness. It`s a mad-house of writing. 9 Link to comment
Featherhat March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 (edited) The similar ep for the Legion was great on LOT last season and got a huge amount of praise so maybe MG was attempting the same thing here. And it wouldn't be a bad idea except I don't give a shit about anyone on "Team Villain" except Anatoly and they've all been dull as dishwasher so far. ETA what @Aeryn13 said so much more eloquently. Edited March 7, 2018 by Featherhat 6 Link to comment
Guest March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Aeryn13 said: I don`t know what they are thinking this year. I believe the writers actually think NTA are in the right via the dialogue like Curtis talking down Dinah from killing via pointing out how they are not evil - like Oliver. Yet at the same time they make them smug, lacking total self-awareness and giving OTA introspective scenes where they are showing wisdom and kindness. It`s a mad-house of writing. This is what concerns me because what the hell are they gonna do to resolve it? Have OTA apologize?! I THINK NOT. I WILL RIOT. ? Link to comment
BunsenBurner March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 (edited) I think it would be great if the 619 promo features SA, EBR, and DR and that’s it. You know like when the OTA heavy episodes show LL/BS in the promos and not the actual actors who that particular show is about. Edited March 7, 2018 by BunsenBurner 4 Link to comment
apinknightmare March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 I hope we get to see some of 3-D and his printer! 8 Link to comment
way2interested March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 Just now, Aeryn13 said: I believe the writers actually think NTA are in the right If they do, then they absolutely hate the characters then, and not in the "oh the writers must hate all of us" joking way. The way they are writing the newbies is in the plot manipulating way, while OTA are the only ones acting in character (Curtis may have had the speech to Dinah, but Oliver had the almost the same speech to her already in the same episode). They are literally going out of their way to write OTA in a flattering way and are partially doing it by writing the newbs in a less flattering way. Idk how they'll end this story, but at this point they aren't doing the apologizing thing because they went out of their way to show that that's not going to work, basically twice. The newbs aren't right (at least aren't supposed to be right over OTA), the writing as presented has said so multiple times. 5 Link to comment
Aeryn13 March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 (edited) Quote This is what concerns me because what the hell are they gonna do to resolve it? Have OTA apologize?! I THINK NOT. I WILL RIOT. ? Me too. Even the thought makes me sick. NTA all need a good dose of self-awareness. I mean the claim that Oliver already "punished" Rene for his little "mistake"? Really, that traitor got punished? Rene calling Oliver a thug and implying William will be so ashamed when he finds out what a loser his father is. And then what "Oliver did to him". Yeah, after the guy came at him with an axe, it`s not like you are allowed to defend yourself. They should have a scene where Zoey finds out what kind of a man her father is and tells him she is so ashamed of him. Quote The similar ep for the Legion was great on LOT last season and got a huge amount of praise so maybe MG was attempting the same thing here. And it wouldn't be a bad idea except I don't give a shit about anyone on "Team Villain" except Anatoly and they've all been dull as dishwasher so far. While the quality of the villains is a big problem for a villain-centric episode, I don`t think even a Legion-like episode could work on Arrow. I mean, Malcolm and Darkh were villains that originated on the show and you couldn`t really have them interact in the same funny tone as they did on LOT. That episode had me in stitches. I don`t think Arrow ever really did a full-blown comedy episode like that. I`m not totally averse to them trying but not with the current villains. Edited March 7, 2018 by Aeryn13 1 Link to comment
Primal Slayer March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Aeryn13 said: Are they trying to mirror Legends? Because last Season LOT had a hilarious episode focused on the villains (with minimal heroes) and just recently this Season another one. But on Legends that works because the show is quirky and embraces a certain goof factor so when you have villains gleefully chewing scenery, it fits well within the vibe of the show. To my knowledge fans really enjoyed at least the Legion of Doom ep last year. It makes sense to do a villains centric episode...It just made sense to do it 9 episodes ago. 19 Link to comment
insomniadreams88 March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Primal Slayer said: It makes sense to do a villains centric episode...It just made sense to do it 9 episodes ago. Yep. They should have done it while Cayden was still around but had Dragon do one or two things that had the audience wondering if he was up to something behind Cayden's back. I get wanting a "gotcha" moment like they had when he killed Cayden, but they've failed when it comes to that character. I really can't buy Dragon as a Big Bad. 3 Link to comment
Trisha March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 30 minutes ago, insomniadreams88 said: Such a bad idea so late in the season. It's way too late in the season to be pulling this. There was a really good Tumblr post earlier this week about how this stretch of Arrow is always tough (storylines that drag, secondary characters getting the spotlight, etc.), but how the show always "slingshots" back to putting OTA (and specifically Felicity) more in focus as it approaches the end of the season. But episode 19 is definitely pushing it... 5 Link to comment
Lady Calypso March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, insomniadreams88 said: Yep. They should have done it while Cayden was still around but had Dragon do one or two things that had the audience wondering if he was up to something behind Cayden's back. I get wanting a "gotcha" moment like they had when he killed Cayden, but they've failed when it comes to that character. I really can't buy Dragon as a Big Bad. The biggest issue is that in Dragon's first episode, he had about seven minutes total screen time. Then he only appeared in about two or three episodes after that with just as minimal screentime and dialogue until his Big Reveal. So when he was revealed as the Big Bad, there was no shock because I had to think about his character to remember who he was. Vigilante/Vince had more of a presence than Dick Dragon. So this Big Villains episode definitely needed to happen much earlier, maybe around episode 12 or 13, at the very latest? Not episode 19, when I really won't care about the villains. 5 Link to comment
lemotomato March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 33 minutes ago, jay741982 said: It's SO SO Unbelievably a Bad idea. Our luck it's probably something like OTA is out of Comission for some reason and NTA has to save the day. You know what if 619 is full of Just NTA, BS, and DDragon Ken P implies no newbies in this episode either Link to comment
insomniadreams88 March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 Oh wow, it's really going to be villains + random people they kill almost the entire episode, isn't it? 1 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 March 7, 2018 Author Share March 7, 2018 Any word on Anatoly? He's the only one that's reasonably entertaining 1 Link to comment
thegirlsleuth March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 Any word on whether Kacey Rohl is shooting 6x19? That might give some confirmation as to whether she is the real big bad. This is going to sound like a weird comment, but I've been thinking about how this season has an almost perfect narrative structure: First act up to episode 8: introduced all the key players, sets up the key conflicts of the season. Second act (9-19): Things go to hell. OTA vs NTA split. And what they are doing with their villains SHOULD work, narratively, where one gets killed off only to be replaced by the next, essentially playing whack-a-mole with the bad guys. I am not surprised 6x19 is a villain heavy episode because things should be at their worst for Oliver. If we were purely basing this on structure, this should be the best season ever. Third Act (20 - 23): Starts Crisis, and then Oliver fights back. Order is restored. Oliver and Felicity go to Aruba. The only problem with all this is that the show has inconsistent, or in some cases non-existent, characterization. Characters' personalities switch or morph, and I really think they haven't fleshed out Dragon because they assume his comic reputation precedes him (it doesn't). It's hard to care about any of these conflicts because the villains motivations are universally weak and uninteresting, and NTA and Lance, who we thought we understood, are absolutely insane. This is all Guggenheim. He is such a terrible writer. 5 Link to comment
Mellowyellow March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 And you all thought the Slade episodes were bad! =P 7 Link to comment
Primal Slayer March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 The sad thing is that this season imo has good ideas, just executed sooooo poorly. The outlines are interesting but they didnt know how to color within those lines and are just drawing all over the place like a child. I want to know what was going on within the writers room when they were mapping out this season. 6 Link to comment
JJ928 March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 i'll be sure to follow along with the live thread for ep 19, but there is no way I'm watching that shit. lol An episode with little to none of the main cast is a no for me. 2 Link to comment
BunsenBurner March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said: The sad thing is that this season imo has good ideas, just executed sooooo poorly. The outlines are interesting but they didnt know how to color within those lines and are just drawing all over the place like a child. I want to know what was going on within the writers room when they were mapping out this season. Absolutely nothing! Link to comment
kes0704 March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said: I want to know what was going on within the writers room when they were mapping out this season. I’m beginning to think they have a bunch of character photos and plot ideas on a wall and they throw darts to pick which ones will get focus and what the plot will be for each episode. It’s going to be difficult to be engaged in a villain focused episode when they’ve done so little to make any of them particularly compelling to watch. 2 Link to comment
calliope1975 March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 I'll watch if Los Angeles traffic cooperates, and I get home in time. The reason is because I don't love myself. Maybe there will be an early Thursday release movie I can go see, lol. Seriously, other than Anatoly, none of these villains are worthy of an hour of my time. 4 Link to comment
Primal Slayer March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 I just hope that our drug (spoiler) dealer is still around to give us the up and up on the episode before it airs. Link to comment
WindofChange March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, calliope1975 said: I'll watch if Los Angeles traffic cooperates, and I get home in time. The reason is because I don't love myself. You sound like @apinknightmare! Lol 1 Link to comment
KenyaJ March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 52 minutes ago, thegirlsleuth said: This is going to sound like a weird comment, but I've been thinking about how this season has an almost perfect narrative structure: First act up to episode 8: introduced all the key players, sets up the key conflicts of the season. Second act (9-19): Things go to hell. OTA vs NTA split. And what they are doing with their villains SHOULD work, narratively, where one gets killed off only to be replaced by the next, essentially playing whack-a-mole with the bad guys. I am not surprised 6x19 is a villain heavy episode because things should be at their worst for Oliver. If we were purely basing this on structure, this should be the best season ever. Third Act (20 - 23): Starts Crisis, and then Oliver fights back. Order is restored. Oliver and Felicity go to Aruba. At the beginning of the season, MG said that unlike the A/B structure of prior seasons, this season would have an A/B/C structure, so it's possible. Of course, MG said a lot of stuff at the beginning of the season that seems questionable now. 1 Link to comment
leopardprint March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 33 minutes ago, kes0704 said: 53 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said: I want to know what was going on within the writers room when they were mapping out this season. I’m beginning to think they have a bunch of character photos and plot ideas on a wall and they throw darts to pick which ones will get focus and what the plot will be for each episode. *With apologies to manatees. 4 Link to comment
BkWurm1 March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Lady Calypso said: It does sound like it. I thought that might have been the case, but then people theorized that he still filmed at least a couple of scenes. But if he's still not back in Vancouver by the weekend, I'll have my suspicions about any of the main cast sans KC being in 6x19. Maybe, just maybe they'll appear in the final scene of the episode. It's just a question of whether it'll be new scenes or footage from a previous episode. If they produce an episode that is nearly sans heroes that focuses mostly on BS and she does NOT die or hop on a bus, I will buy into the idea that they gave KC some kind of back door pilot even if there was zero intention of the CW ever picking it up. 2 hours ago, Mellowyellow said: Will be even funnier if the Live thread is dead that day. Don't leave me watching all by myself! I'm a complete-ist. I can't not watch every episode. The really terrible episodes are even more fun to watch live with friends than the good ones. 1 hour ago, Angel12d said: This is what concerns me because what the hell are they gonna do to resolve it? Have OTA apologize?! I THINK NOT. I WILL RIOT. ? They already have apologized and the NTA basically said "It doesn't change anything Hoss" 5 Link to comment
scarynikki12 March 8, 2018 Share March 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, BkWurm1 said: If they produce an episode that is nearly sans heroes that focuses mostly on BS and she does NOT die or hop on a bus, I will buy into the idea that they gave KC some kind of back door pilot even if there was zero intention of the CW ever picking it up. Don't leave me watching all by myself! I'm a complete-ist. I can't not watch every episode. The really terrible episodes are even more fun to watch live with friends than the good ones. They already have apologized and the NTA basically said "It doesn't change anything Hoss" I've got your back. Even if it's just you, me, and @Primal Slayer I think we'll have some fun. 3 Link to comment
insomniadreams88 March 8, 2018 Share March 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, BkWurm1 said: Don't leave me watching all by myself! I'm a complete-ist. I can't not watch every episode. I'm the same way, so I'll be watching and on the live thread. Probably rage-watching, sure, but watching. 620 better be REALLY good with lots of Oliver/Felicity/Diggle. And I still say that the show owes me a return from Rory after everything we've had to sit through this season - and especially after hearing this stuff about 619 - but I think I'm going to have to wait until season 7 if it happens. Give me my favorite newbie back! 4 Link to comment
Lady Calypso March 8, 2018 Share March 8, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, BkWurm1 said: Don't leave me watching all by myself! I'm a complete-ist. I can't not watch every episode. The really terrible episodes are even more fun to watch live with friends than the good ones. Chances are that I'll be watching too. Thursdays are my busy TV night. Grey's at 7pm, Supernatural at 8pm, then I gotta watch something at 9! I think my 10pm show will be done by 6x19, but since I'm already on my TV that night, I'll be live blogging! Even if it's just four of us, we'll make it a party! Just grab some booze and some snacks! I've only skipped two episodes entirely for Arrow: the middle episode for the Black Canary arc in season 3, and Rene's origin story episode. I haven't watched them since. But then again, at least for the first one, I didn't have live blogging. Plus, do you know how much fun it was to rage blog on Thursday? I don't think I've had so much fun during an Arrow episode. I'll gladly rage blog again! Edited March 8, 2018 by Lady Calypso 1 Link to comment
WindofChange March 8, 2018 Share March 8, 2018 (edited) So Roll call on who's gonna be watching 619: @BkWurm1 @calliope1975 @Lady Calypso @insomniadreams88 @Primal Slayer @scarynikki12 @apinknightmare @bethy @jay741982 @statsgirl Who else will be watching? Between these fine people I'm thinking the live thread will be great :) Edited March 8, 2018 by WindofChange 1 Link to comment
Guest March 8, 2018 Share March 8, 2018 It depends if I finish washing my hair in time. ? Jokes aside, IDK. I'll decide when the time comes but I'm really not interested in it at all. Link to comment
bethy March 8, 2018 Share March 8, 2018 21 minutes ago, WindofChange said: So Roll call on who's gonna be watching 619: @BkWurm1 @calliope1975 @Lady Calypso @insomniadreams88 @Primal Slayer @scarynikki12 @apinknightmare Who else will be watching? Between these fine people I'm thinking the live thread will be great :) I’m pretty sure I will be. Though only because of the live thread entertainment/therapy! Otherwise I’d totally skip it. 3 Link to comment
jay741982 March 8, 2018 Share March 8, 2018 27 minutes ago, WindofChange said: So Roll call on who's gonna be watching 619: @BkWurm1 @calliope1975 @Lady Calypso @insomniadreams88 @Primal Slayer @scarynikki12 @apinknightmare @bethy Who else will be watching? Between these fine people I'm thinking the live thread will be great :) I'll probably watch as well. To tear the episode apart 3 Link to comment
statsgirl March 8, 2018 Share March 8, 2018 I'll be here too unless I have a conflict. (Emergency meeting but hopefully it will be Wednesday and not Thursday.) 2 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 March 8, 2018 Author Share March 8, 2018 I'll tell you after Reddit guy, spoils the episode ? 13 Link to comment
Mary0360 March 8, 2018 Share March 8, 2018 (edited) Whoops @leopardprint had the same idea Edited March 8, 2018 by Mary0360 Link to comment
BkWurm1 March 8, 2018 Share March 8, 2018 56 minutes ago, jay741982 said: I'll probably watch as well. To tear the episode apart Yes! Watch it like homework so you have all the correct contextual reasons to rage! :D Plus with the way KP (the pap) is talking about the episode - that thing with KC fans being happy about her screen time but not maybe the storyline- what if this was BS's swan song? Shouldn't we all know where we were when/if that happens? Yes, yes, I know. Try not to get my hopes up. I do have a question. We've learned NTA and OTA will either be missing or very minimal. Have we heard anything about Quentin? What's PB been up to this week? 2 Link to comment
Chaser March 8, 2018 Share March 8, 2018 (edited) I would love for it to be her last ever ever ever episode but I doubt it. KP said he didn't want her on the show, I think if he knew she was out he would be hinting a bit more. My guess is they answer the redemption question with a hard nope. Edited March 8, 2018 by Chaser 3 Link to comment
Primal Slayer March 8, 2018 Share March 8, 2018 I think we won't like the episode because she be killing people left and right. But I aint worried about her going anywhere before the finale. Since she IG this photo yesterday Im going to guess we get a lot of undercover Laurel. So maybe they're traveling for something? Though I am far more interested in the impersonation storyline. Though with the way that Dragon talks to her in 6x15, I don't really understand why she would really work with him, she can't be THAT afraid of Dinah once she is healed up and 100%. Link to comment
Velocity23 March 8, 2018 Share March 8, 2018 (edited) Kacey Rohl has been all over the UK for the past couple of weeks. She apparently left London on March 6th. Not sure she is part of the team villain episode. Edited March 8, 2018 by Velocity23 1 Link to comment
WindofChange March 8, 2018 Share March 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Velocity23 said: Kacey Rohl has been all over the UK for the past couple of weeks. She apparently left London on March 6th. Not sure she is part of the team villain episode. HUZZAH SHE'S FELICITY'S FRIEND :') 6 Link to comment
Starfish35 March 8, 2018 Share March 8, 2018 50 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said: I think we won't like the episode because she be killing people left and right. Maybe she'll finally kill Quentin. 1 Link to comment
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