Episode Discussion: TFGH

[CPP83]

They're not the only ones I feel that way about.  Britt/Nikolas, Silas/Nina, Lucas/Brad.   It's weird.   Anyone else feel that way?

 

 

 

 

Oh I know that feeling well, Ron is always jumping the gun, he wants everything to happen now but yet he wants to hold back on having the "fireworks" set off just yet because he wants it to be this huge surprise or something. Such as what he's doing with the new Jason reveal.

 

He ran around headless for a while and only Robin could see him, then he ends up in the hospital after another near death experience with a new face, voice, and apparently personality. It's taking forever for anything to happen and yet it feels rushed all at the same time, especially when you factor in the Sam and Patrick bs bits.

 

Imho Ron goes for style points, he could give a damn abut actual substance. He has a shiny new toy in Billy and, as he has countless times before, it's more of the hurry up and wait nonsense.

[Ambrosefolly]

You really think he's going to win an Emmy for today's scene?!  SBu already won an Emmy for playing Jason Morgan, and BM is just going to create a brand new character called Jake that bears no resemblance to Jason Morgan.  RC should just have brought on BM as Jake since I don't think BM can play Jason.  He's too much into the snark and comedy.  I think RC will tailor Jason to BM's strengths otherwise BM won't be able to pull it off.  He certainly wasn't today.  Jason was already laughing???  Really??

I agree with this. Sometimes I pretend that Roger Hogworth isn't playing Franco, I find him quite enjoyable, but he is playing Franco, if only in name. I have no doubt that Billy Miller is a charismatic and engaging actor, I just hated Jason not only from SBu performance, but the amount of smoke that TIIC constantly blew up Jason's ass, and will be pissed if they sweep his behavior under the rug. I have a feeling it will be the second coming of Jasus. I don't care if it was brain damage or a tumor, they are both murderers.

 

Jason Morgan gone? Good. Good riddance to that block of wood and the actor who made the character that way. Steve Burton won an emmy? For staring and blinking?!? The Daytime Emmy's are a bigger joke than I thought if that dude won. Really?

Believe it or not, SBu was good, right after the accident.  However, Guza love affair with holy hit man began shortly after, and all of a sudden the guy had all these superpowers, instead of someone dealing physical brain damage. He was always saving the day and somehow even remembered his medical training to perform surgery, and it got worse after he and Guza returned. SBu got so used to the treatment that I believe he couldn't handle it when Jason's halo got slightly tarnished under RC, despite the characters that were thrown under the bus to prop his ass.

 

3. Enough with wasting Monica to prop other stories. ENOUGH.

No kidding! Believe it or not FV/RC a character can have a story of their on while it propel others' stories as well. Maybe instead of trying to make Nina or Kiki try to happen, we could have had more scenes of Monica dealing with her grief and deciding to start an new chapter in her life. And instead of Ron trying to come up with mash up names for Silas and Monica, he can involve them in a storyline together, so when they do share scenes it isn't so WTF. Since Ron thought one of the reasons have Robin's kidnapper become head of GH was to  galvanize the staff against a common enemy. Dr.O is not only in jail at the moment,  the people that put her in power seem to be no more, so it would make it a good time for Monica to get her hospital back and maybe having Silas help, but not that half sleeping one, but the pissed off one that sometimes lurks out. 

 

While ME does deserve a huge amount of blame for sleepwalking through his scenes, RC deserves a fair amount because when ME isn't being written as a dupe he does came alive, and he is playing a doctor, something this show sorely needed (especially since RC sent two doctors to PRISON in the first 6 months of the show). Is it really that hard to come up with an interesting character for ME that also happens to be a doctor?

 

 

 

This judge thing is the most contrived plot point I've seen, which is saying something.

Right? It doesn't even make one damn bit of sense! Of course not much on this show does. There have got to be many better ways to 'break-up' Nathan and Maxie. RC is really asking us to believe that this judge could actually do this?!? Come on.

 

The entire custody case is stupid, so much so I can't even get to worked up over the judge. Spinelli has the baby, and unless the courts are going to charge him for all of the crimes he did while working for Sason, he should keep the baby even if he lets Maxie have contact with (man if there is one character I wish didn't get a Happily Ever After, its that guy, but that neither here nor there) because he is the bio dad. Since the six months are up, it is now up to Spinelli to decide who interacts with Coggie and Maxie is her biological mother.

 

While I have my unpopular views about the Levi situation and Maxie's lack of agency, I actually don't think Levi showed Maxie any signs of being a violent conman , just a huge douche and I don't get why the judge is lambasting Maxie for not picking up on this. 

[tvgoddess]

 

I know it's a divisive topic, but I really like Patrick and Sam together.  I like their banter, I like how they seem to actually enjoy each other's company and to know each other, and I like their pretty.

 

Exactly the same for me. I mean, it helps that I have no strong attachment to Robin or Scrubs for that matter, but I really like them being happy and they're just so damn pretty.

 

Speaking of pretty, Olivia looked gorgeous today.

 

Monica needs to realize the uptight prick she's dating is a piece of crap.

 

My vote for the Cranco wedding is a Red Wedding, because this show desperately needs some characters' heads chopped off.

 

Liz, I can't get into this BS knowing she'll drop him the second Nik or Ric (or both?!) come sniffing her ass. And her sweater needs to die a horrible death.

 

Unpopular opinion, I enjoyed most of the show today. Never thought I'd say that on an Ava-free episode, but I get her tomorrow with Morgan and good hair.

[Cattitude]

My vote for the Cranco wedding is a Red Wedding, because this show desperately needs some characters' heads chopped off.

 

 

Maybe at least a good stabing with the Game of Thrones Aztec knife.

[Fellaway]

What purpose is Nina going to serve once she is forced to give up her hold on Silas? Are they going to push her fully toward Franco?  How are they going to live? Neither one of them has any money.

 

Nina does, or so she keeps telling us.  She's the one who is really paying Rosalie, and she gave Rafe getting out of town money.

 

Judgie-grudgie is going to seize Rocco from Lulu, if that's how his mind works.

 

I'm surprised he hasn't already, considering her shenanigans during the custody battle between her and Maxie/Spinelli.  Seriously, that judge needs to be up in front of an ethics committee.  Contact with a party before his court, outside the courtroom and without benefit of counsel?  That ridiculous ultimatum?  Wow.

 

I still don't get why Sonny doesn't just kill Franco to solve his problem, but I guess now that Kiki knows, it wouldn't quite solve it after all.

 

And Ava, and Morgan.  And Nina!  Potentially even Spinelli, if he ever, just 'cause, got around to listening to that recording he cleaned up for Carly.  But I'd much prefer Franco killed Sonny to get rid of his problem.  Hate Sonny more and more, everyday.

 

I'm over nuJason already.  Nothing against the actor, as I've not seen enough of him to judge, but...  The police crack?  So Thug Jason it is, then.  Blargh.  And I so don't care who he's paired with romantically, but Liz is gonna get her "shot" at "Jake," Patrick is gonna get his with Sam, and the ultimate prize for we, the audience, is gonna be the rapturous reunion of Jason and Sam.  Do not care.  What I wanted from the return of Jason, if we had to have it - self-loathing, change, re-emerging Quartermaine-ness - none of it's gonna happen.  It's gonna all be about who he lubs and the triumphant resurrection of St. Jasus.  I'm surprised Franco hasn't strolled by his room and felt that mystical connection.

[jazzyscreenname]

Don't judge me, but I'm kind of hoping for the writers to pull a Days type thing and for Franco to have a sex tape of CarSon, which he shows during the ceremony. Trust me, that really livened up Brady Black's non-wedding to Kristen DiMera.

Nothing livens up a crappy wedding like a sex tape. Pickle Sonny could induce more barf than tainted Pickle Lila. But Carly is no Kristen.

A Red Wedding would be more in the style of Franco. The herd needs thinning.

[HeatLifer]

I'm over nuJason already. Nothing against the actor, as I've not seen enough of him to judge, but... The police crack? So Thug Jason it is, then. Blargh. And I so don't care who he's paired with romantically, but Liz is gonna get her "shot" at "Jake," Patrick is gonna get his with Sam, and the ultimate prize for we, the audience, is gonna be the rapturous reunion of Jason and Sam. Do not care. What I wanted from the return of Jason, if we had to have it - self-loathing, change, re-emerging Quartermaine-ness - none of it's gonna happen. It's gonna all be about who he lubs and the triumphant resurrection of St. Jasus. I'm surprised Franco hasn't strolled by his room and felt that mystical connection.

I dunno. I think he's already acting completely different from the Jason we knew and hated. Because if I have to get Thug Jase, at least it's one who smiles and laughs and blinks and has human emotions.

And I guess only time will tell if the story is JaSam, although I'm inclined to see it that way because history had shown me that Liz doesn't get nice things.

On the other hand, with Robin no longer on the canvas and Patty needing a bedwarmer, it also makes sense to keep him with Sam.

[P3pp3rb1rd]

Monica needs to realize the uptight prick she's dating is a piece of crap.

 

Ned headed over to Monica's table, flashed his dimples, and quickly updated her that he was dating too. Her interested smile sealed the deal. Could they be resurrecting their former relationship as Auntie/Nephew lovers? Or did they mean dating other people while being allies and friends?

 

Why hasn't Franco gone ballistic over Carly and Sonny's perfidy? Is he healing his own hurt slowly, building up to a shocking reveal at the wedding, or maybe he hasn't worked out just how extensive and bloody the outcome will be? He seems to enjoy making Carly feel guilty and disloyal. I don't know why Sonny doesn't just arrange a scenario where Franco gets killed as an "innocent bystander" during a hit. Franco knows too many of Sonny's secrets, and Sonny should just crush him like a bug----problem solved.

 

Sam Trick is just too predictable. She couldn't resist shaking her assets in his face, and then she invited him into the sheets. No wonder he think he's home free.

 

Jordan is very pretty but the snarl on her face is about as effective as spitting cobra venom at dismaying friends and suitors.

 

[Lillybee]

I will kneel down at the altar of Franco if he finally does the reveal that Sonny did kill AJ.

[NutmegsDad]

Well, NutmegsMom warned me about His Honor the Ludicrous Plot Device, so I started to pack for the Barge. Before that, I was persuaded to stay with Alexis slapping Julian (which I want as an animate GIF, but with Sonny's face over Julian's). I rewound that as Alexis was yelling at FrankenRon for the Naxie Plotpoint, and I was able to FF successfully.

 

Also, as some people have Shirtless Julian, I was entertained by Sprowling Sam on Bed, with Cleavage and Nice Ass Action.

 

I like Billy Miller with Bandaged Angry Eyebrows with Liz.

 

FrankenRon set up Naxie to troll the viewers how unfair the Judge is. Uh, no. We're pissed because you wrote in a ridiculous plot point and expect us to buy it. Almost as if Sam and Patrick were instructed that all the rooms in Amsterdam were booked, that Patrick had to sleep on the bed, and that both of them had to sleep naked with his penis in her vagina because Dutch reasons.

 

FrankenRon railroaded the viewers into a overly contrived situation to make us care about Naxie and to keep them apart. To quoth someone else railroaded into a situation, "They're fucking with the wrong people".

Edited October 8, 2014 by NutmegsDad

[godfreydaniels]

 

I thought Sonny snarking on Franco was a lot more fun.

I thought when he commented on that ugly ass necklace was funny, because I had been thinking the same thing. It is One ugly necklace!! Especially when she was wearing it with no clothes on while they were slathering on the sofa. And the scene with Sam and Patrick under the covers was definitely juvenile. I think they are wasting Ned as a romantic lead, by pushing Julian towards the front, and sorry, but I don't think he's all that appealing, nor do I like him and Alexis together. She was good with Mac, but lost out on that one!!!

[Francie]

"Did it ever occur to you what your demise would do to your daughter?"  Really, Your Honor?  You need a swift kick in the ass.

 

Wow, talk about victim blaming.  If I recall correctly, all Maxie ever did was agree to marry the wrong guy. It's not like she willingly went on a gun toting adventure. Bad taste in men, yes.  Blameworthy for being kidnapped? No.

 

[sarcasm] Nice to see the misogyny alive and well on this show with Ron and his boys. [/sarcasm]

[Francie]

Cobalt

 

 The list is a list of  people that Nina thinks has done her wrong

 

The five people on it are

Silas

Sam

Madeline

Kiki 

and Ava

Can I just say -- there are 5 people on that list. 5. 5 people about whom Nina spends her day obsessing. Does she really need to put that in writing?

[sunnyface]

I will give Sonny props for letting them know what a totally hidious piece of shit that "evil eye" is. I want this story to end purely so I don't have to look at that thing ever again.  ...  Oh the possiblities of Halloween thought! I want a loud speaker playing that audio full blast to a whole room full of people including Michael.....let's just hope it cuts off before "oh Sonny don't stop." eeeekk!

 

 

The only positive thing about this soap opera right now whose main story features a sensitive serial killer in a romantic duel with and a violent thug is that this serial killer helps the violent thug's ability to spit his lines out better.  It's not just the blocking/dark periods or the stale sets or the stale characters or the shiny new toys which don't mesh in with the not-so-shiny and not-so-new toys - it is the writing/pacing.  This next phase of Nathan/Maxi's relationship ended quicker than Sam and Patrick being able to figure out whether or not they could find another hotel room in Amsterdam.  Better pacing is displayed with home shopping network tv show featuring someone hawking bad jewelry with a countdown clock at the bottom. Maybe if there was a Sonny countdown clock at the bottom of the screen... .

 

My vote for the Cranco wedding is a Red Wedding, because this show desperately needs some characters' heads chopped off.

 

 

The reception could be held in Charming, CA.

Edited October 8, 2014 by sunnyface

[peachmangosteen]

Sorry, but how old are Sam and Patrick? That whole bed sharing juvenile scene was totally lame.

 

Really though. And I honestly can't believe they spent almost 2 episodes hemming and hawing about sharing a damn bed. It felt like torture.

 

Can someone explain to me how all the relationships on this show seem to be both too fast and too slow at the same time?

 

I know right! It's so bizarre.

 

I actually feel Franco and Nina genuinely care for each other more than most couples.

 

I agree. Honestly, of all the current couples/almost couples on the show right now, they're probably in the top 3 on chem IMO. They actually seem natural and real, which is hilarious since the two characters are insane.

[Chairperson Meow]

Dude, I was legit dealing with my ostomy bag during parts of the Sonny/Franco/Carly crap yesterday.

Was Franco at least smart enough to not say on his ugly necklace cam that he knows Sonny killed AJ? Or does that not matter?

(I know tmi, but dealing with a shitbag literally during a Sonny scene, how ironic?)

[Bishop]

But that's just it. He isn't taking his time with them, he's immediately inserting ridiculous obstacles. They had ONE date and now she's banned from ever seeing him again if she wants her daughter back? It's just stupid, but then, that's Ron's middle name.

Taking his time is not throwing them in bed together immediately, which RC has done with every other couple on GH.  So yes, by putting this obstacle (as contrived as it is) in their path, it forces the couple to slow down.  Let's face it, the way they were looking at each other, they would have been in bed by week's end.  I'm glad their story is moving slower.

 

I'm not sure who Billy is supposed to be playing but it isn't Jason, imo, even if he's lost his memory I don't pick up a single vibe that this is actually Jason, either Morgan or Q.

 

He's not doing a bad job with what he's doing, he's not Roger becoming Franco by a long shot, but he just isn't reading as Jason. It's looking as if, to me, Ron is just going to slap the name "Jason Morgan" across his forehead and then write him however the hell he wants to, not caring about the character's history or personality at all.

I agree with all of this.  In just that one scene with Elizabeth, BM had these puppy-dog, wounded pleading eyes, and I thought "What the heck?"  Then throw in the hand-holding, the "Are you coming back?" and the quick laugh, and I thought "I don't know who this guy is in the bed, but it ain't Jason Morgan."  I agree that RC is just going to write "Jason" however he wants and ignore 20 years worth of story history.  He did the same with RH and Franco.  He made Franco into a character that played to RH's strong points, and I can see that happening easily with BM. I don't see BM pulling off Jason - intimidating, physical, imposing.  Nope.  That puppy-dog look on his face threw me.

Jason Morgan gone? Good. Good riddance to that block of wood and the actor who made the character that way. Steve Burton won an emmy? For staring and blinking?!? The Daytime Emmy's are a bigger joke than I thought if that dude won. Really?

SBu was very good in the role, especially early on and then Guza decided to make him more like Jason Bourne with his silence, but SBu most definitely deserved his Emmy.  

Can someone explain to me how all the relationships on this show seem to be both too fast and too slow at the same time? 

 

It's the weirdest thing.  Maxie and Nathan have been sniffing around each other forever and don't seem to be making any progress (too slow) but at the same time we're supposed to see them as star-crossed lovers being kept apart by fate when there's been no real progression to this point that would indicate that that is an appropriate way for these people to feel about each other (too fast).

I don't agree that there has been no progression.  Nathan and Maxie have been star-crossed since Maxie returned, from Nathan fighting with her and Levi, to them being handcuffed, to them having a meal at the Floating Rib, then to them being kidnapped and held hostage.  There has been major progression and build up for those two, but now RC is putting the brakes on them, and I'm glad.  I think it should be more of an obstacle for them to be together.  I like how soap romances use to be - take a good long year for two people to get together.  RC throws people together in two weeks.  So I'm very happy he's taking his time with a couple - FINALLY.

[TeeVee329]

There has been major progression and build up for those two (Maxie/Nathan), but now RC is putting the brakes on them, and I'm glad.  I think it should be more of an obstacle for them to be together.  I like how soap romances use to be - take a good long year for two people to get together.  RC throws people together in two weeks.  So I'm very happy he's taking his time with a couple - FINALLY.

 

I don't have a problem with the show slowing Maxie/Nathan down, but I do think this situation with the judge is beyond contrived.  There had to have been a better way to keep them apart for a time than that.

[Chairperson Meow]

I'd rather Maxie getting visitation and actually becoming a mother being the obstacle.

Seriously, if Jason Jake whatever sees Monica and has Alan flashbacks and remembers the name Alan, I will cry. That scene would have worked better with Monic imo. It is weird that he remembers the name of he and Liz's kid over he and Sam's, but you bang the douche, you lose Billy Miller. Yes, I would take him over Dr Douche anyday. I'm going to call an audible and assume Ron is going with the first car accident turned Jason Q into Jason M, so this one will combine the two? He remembers Jason M things, however he seems very Q like to me. Eh, we wanted a Jason with emotions for years. Now we have one, and he's not orange.

[Francie]

I'd rather Maxie getting visitation and actually becoming a mother being the obstacle.

 

Word. I think Maxie and Nathan being a new parent (and the significant other) learning how to tread water with parenthood, in and of itself, can be interesting.  I'm sure Ron would disagree, though, and find that boring.  

 

On top of that, throw in Maxie going up against Nathan's crazy family, voila! Much fun and conflict. But rather writes his characters as spending months apart without being in a relationship or having sex. Ron seems to hate those heterosexual non-plot moving love scenes, usually at the beginning and ending of episodes, where you see a couple in bed. They were a staple back in the 80s and even the 90s, and now they are non-existent.

 

Can someone explain to me how all the relationships on this show seem to be both too fast and too slow at the same time?

It's partly because of pacing and partly because of plotting. Ron doesn't like to build couples. They just sit on the same plot point, revisiting it week after week, and then skipping 3 weeks and then returning it to that exact same plot point the following month. And then when they move forward, it's with a lurch, a skip and a jump.  And then they'll sit on that plot point for months. Nothing's written smoothly in his world.

[TeeVee329]

 But rather writes his characters as spending months apart without being in a relationship or having sex.

 

Oh, ten bucks right now says some girl will enter their orbit who will catch Nathan's eye and makes Maxie jealous.  Because as Dandesun said yesterday, for Ron, the answer is always triangle.

 

I kinda hope Nathan spends this break digging more into his family stuff, possibly as a fun little adventure with sister Britt, but alas, I doubt that'll happen.

Edited October 8, 2014 by TeeVee329

[Chairperson Meow]

Can it be Annie Donnelly?

[TeeVee329]

Works for me.  As I keep saying, Anna Donely should come to Port Charles to carry on her father's legacy and learn police work from her namesake.  Then, have her become friends with Dante and Nathan and her presence could make Maxie jealous.

[dubbel zout]

Speaking of pretty, Olivia looked gorgeous today.

 

I loved the purple, but I thought the dress was a tad too short for her.

 

5 people about whom Nina spends her day obsessing. Does she really need to put that in writing?

 

Does she still carry around The List in her bra? That's what cracks me up—that she needs to be reminded who needs to be ruined. "Wait...have I gotten my revenge on Ava or not? And if so, who's next?"

[CPP83]

Oh, ten bucks right now says some girl will enter their orbit who will catch Nathan's eye

 

 

 

 

And she will probably be a newbie that he'll craft from that cesspool of a mind of his. Personally I think that the more real GH history and historic characters Ron gets his hands on the worse things get. They don't even resemble their actual selves, they'll just do whatever the hell he feels like making them do.

 

Also, is there supposed to be some reason why Liz believes that "Jake" the amnesia patient has actually remembered his real name?

 

He's an amnesia patient, he could be recalling someone else's name, hint hint...or a friend's, or something he saw on TV before the accident, who the heck know for he certainly doesn't, he's obviously guessing just because it "feels right" to him. It just...this story line really is plot by numbers.

[Chairperson Meow]

Dammit. Can he just fucking remember Alan, AJ, or Edward? Ffs Jake was like in the Box of Pain. And Lucky raised him.

Monica go see your kid.

[ulkis]

I don't have a problem with the show slowing Maxie/Nathan down, but I do think this situation with the judge is beyond contrived.  There had to have been a better way to keep them apart for a time than that.

 

I don't even know why they have to be apart for a time. (statement directed at the writers, not you TeeVee). They just went on their first damn date. And it makes Nathan look like a giant wimp to be cowed to the obviously-in-the-wrong judge to boot.

[BestestAuntEver]

The judge... all I could think was the lawyers on this board must be banging their head against a wall. The healthcare stuff drives me insane (which I will discuss later) but Ron didn't go to school for anything in healthcare. He actually went to school to be a lawyer & PASSED a bar. For me, Nathan/Maxie aren't that good or have enough chemistry for these silly stupid ass contrivances. RP looks good (devastating when he really smiles) but his acting still isn't that strong. I'd take Maxie/Morgan over this. At least BC had some reaction vs standing like a very pretty block of wood. It would also help to keep BC away from KA/Kaka.

 

All the talk about the "Hell No" wedding made  (yes made) me go watch some T&B first meeting, their bet stuff & the Christmas present. IMO, relationships have to have chemistry & be built up. One moment/scene of pleasantness/good times filled by weeks of angst doesn't build a relationship, Ron. The douchcanoe hack really does need a co-writer.

 

So St. Jasus had 30+ hours of major reconstructive facial surgery to the point he won't be recognizable ,yet 1-2 days after surgery he can talk & smile? No major major swelling or bruising from the accident or surgery & no difficulty using his muscles due to the injury or all the surgery. Nope, not St. Jasus

 

I think all this over the top propping, trolling & baiting with St. Jasus is awakening my Jason hate. Ugh, why can't Ron can never make anything simple. All I needed was for Jason to come back & hate Carson, his old life & try to figure out how to become Jason Q when he was dealing with his past as a killer & thug when he was Jason Morgan. 

 

I hate Alexis & her teenage relationships. I hate that they are wasting WK on NLG's character. I also hate that they haven't even tried a Jordan/Julian pairing.

 

Can someone get Tracy's "Amsterdam" hotel room as an actual home? I'd take that small living room over living at the MetroCourt, the park or being homeless.

[NutmegsDad]

Oh, ten bucks right now says some girl will enter their orbit who will catch Nathan's eye and makes Maxie jealous.  Because as Dandesun said yesterday, for Ron, the answer is always triangle.

 

Georgie. Back from the dead, unknown to Maxie and incognito to Nathan.

 

(From the "Be careful what you wish for" Department)

[Chairperson Meow]

All I need is a good, happy Alan flashback and I'll have hope. A nice Edward or AJ one since his murder is about to be revealed would be nice. A nice one, like Thanksgiving or something when they were happy.

[SiouxB]

I hate Alexis & her teenage relationships. I hate that they are wasting WK on NLG's character. I also hate that they haven't even tried a Jordan/Julian pairing.

 

I would love a Jordan/Julian pairing but I would especially love a Jordan/Ned pairing.  She could bring out the animal in him - yowza !!!!!!!

[Chairperson Meow]

Jordan is one of the few newbies I like. Her and Shawn is like Nathan eating steak and fries. No, dude. You do not. It's like drinking box wine. I'll take Julian/Jordan or Ned/Jordan as they're both being wasted with Alexis.

Maybe I just don't like Alexis.

[dubbel zout]

If the judge has to break up Maxie and Nathan, why not do it at the next hearing? He can use the same reasons he did at dinner, but since it's in a legal context, there's a gloss (a very faint gloss, but a gloss nonetheless) of realism. I suppose that's too much trouble, since it means bringing in Diane, dayplayer court personnel, etc.

[Zelda33]

Jordan is one of the few newbies I like. Her and Shawn is like Nathan eating steak and fries. No, dude. You do not. It's like drinking box wine. I'll take Julian/Jordan or Ned/Jordan as they're both being wasted with Alexis.

Maybe I just don't like Alexis.

 

Oh, I have to defend steak and fries. It's a classic French dish - steak-frites - and it's delicious.

[Chairperson Meow]

Well, I can't with wine in a box. The concept is cool. Adult juice box? But no. And that is Julexis.

[TeeVee329]

I'll take Jordan with anyone who is not hypocritical asshat Shawn.  I'm still desperately awaiting a scene where she slaps some cuffs on him and reveals she's DEA.

[Francie]

Here's my thing about Maxie and Nathan.  The writers forgot to write the part about Maxie being attracted or falling for Nathan.  They did show Nathan, for whatever reason, liking Maxie.  Though, they didn't really focus on the 'why' part, IMHO. I get that he was supposed to be attracted to her spunk (I hate spunk! [/Mary Tyler Moore Show]), but in good writing you can see the character being crushed on displaying the traits that make them crushable.  Here, it was just that Maxie was antagonized because of Levi and Nathan clashing.

 

They never showed Maxie actually seeming attracted to Levi. I get the whole premise -- hell, it was shoved down our throats -- that she was seeking bettering herself, and Levi with his veganism, yoga, and alleged do-good-ism was what she (wrongly) thought was a partner who could teach her that.  But beyond that very superficial plot point, we never saw Maxie actually even come close to liking him.  The writers didn't show that. They didn't show Maxie having any feelings for Nathan, except gratitude and a little bit of friendship here and there.  She's just there.  A walking, talking plot point.

 

These writers simply do not know how to write people developing feelings for one another. They just -- bam!! -- have them out of nowhere.

[TeeVee329]

Here's my thing about Maxie and Nathan.  The writers forgot to write the part about Maxie being attracted or falling for Nathan.

 

I don't necessarily agree.  I feel like I remember scenes where she expressed both a physical attraction (during the Nurses' Ball when she walked in on him shirtless) and an emotional connection (her comforting him over dinner after he "killed" Ric) to Nathan.  It was certainly better paced than, say, the ever-revolving feelings in the Lucas/Brad/Felix triangle.

 

I think the problem was she didn't consciously realize it herself, but had to have Mac and Lulu point it out to her.

Edited October 8, 2014 by TeeVee329

[HeatLifer]

Almost as if Sam and Patrick were instructed that all the rooms in Amsterdam were booked, that Patrick had to sleep on the bed, and that both of them had to sleep naked with his penis in her vagina because Dutch reasons.

Hahahahaha. If only they knew what a cot is. But they don't. So...sex.

[WTActualF]

Finally watched the whole episode. I realize it may be unpopular, but… I'm really vibin' on Sam/Patrick. It's super plot-pointy and contrived, but Sam kind of sparkles around Patrick and he does the same, and since I tuned him out during the Purina mess, I'm just glad I can watch him again without FF.

 

Nina. Love her quite a bit. I love the antagonism b/w her and Silas. And the whole S/C/Franco stuff is just LULZ!

 

NuJason can get it 50 ways from Sunday. He's great. And so not Jason that I'm not annoyed at myself for loving him. 

 

Nathan and Maxie are working my last nerve, as well as Meddling Asshat Judge. Yes, file a goddamn bar complaint on him, Maxie. It's beyond stupid the ways RC, a freakin' lawyer, will go to not at least give a modicum of realism to soap law. 

 

What the hell is up with Julian/Alexis/Ned? No, I know "what's up", but I…. yeah, WTF?

[HeatLifer]

Finally watched the whole episode. I realize it may be unpopular, but… I'm really vibin' on Sam/Patrick. It's super plot-pointy and contrived, but Sam kind of sparkles around Patrick and he does the same

I don't think it's unpopular at all! I know quite a few people who feel the same way you do. I know for a fact that I wouldn't mind them at all if the story was written better and/or Robin was able to be completely free from Patty for good.

[Mrs. Stanwyck]

 

Also, is there supposed to be some reason why Liz believes that "Jake" the amnesia patient has actually remembered his real name?

 

I didn't think Liz assumed it was his name.  He said he was remembering the name Jake and she asked if it was his name.  He said he didn't know but it sounded familiar so he would go with it.  I don't think its unreasonable to think that the first name someone would remember would be their own.  On the chance it is his name, I think it makes sense to tell the police that "hey, the john doe we have here said the name Jake sounded familiar so if there any missing persons reports filed for some guy named "Jake", this might be him."

[Chairperson Meow]

Dude...., the Jason promo hath aired. Please tell me you guys have seen it.

Announcer guy makes me laugh. I'm pissed I didn't get my dramatic promo. Way to scrimp, Frank.

[WTActualF]

I didn't think Liz assumed it was his name.  He said he was remembering the name Jake and she asked if it was his name.  He said he didn't know but it sounded familiar so he would go with it.  I don't think its unreasonable to think that the first name someone would remember would be their own.  On the chance it is his name, I think it makes sense to tell the police that "hey, the john doe we have here said the name Jake sounded familiar so if there any missing persons reports filed for some guy named "Jake", this might be him."

 

This is pretty much my exact thinking. He kept mentioning "Jake," and Liz tried to get him to give her a reason why. She wondered why Jake was important to him before wondering whether it was JD's name. 

 

Mamma needs more Billy Miller for the rest of the week. I hope he's on again. And soon. 

 

I don't think it's unpopular at all! I know quite a few people who feel the same way you do. I know for a fact that I wouldn't mind them at all if the story was written better and/or Robin was able to be completely free from Patty for good.

 

Yeah! See, on a different show, I'd like to think that Sam and Patrick would actually be given a decent chance to work. However, as this is TFGH and RC is running this circus, there's a fat chance in hell that this will end good. I'm trying to ignore the weaker aspects of the writing for the characters and just go with the fact that Sam's more likable (for me) than she has been in years, and ditto Patrick.

 

I was never a Scrubs fan. I *hated* Robin with a purple-faced passion. I cheered every time she left PC. However, even I cringed at the way she was being written out of the show for her recurring appearances. It made her look awful, even if she's being held against her will, yada yada yada. I wish RC had one of his smarter writing monkeys give him better ideas on how to handle her exits. 

[WTActualF]

Dude...., the Jason promo hath aired. Please tell me you guys have seen it.

Announcer guy makes me laugh. I'm pissed I didn't get my dramatic promo. Way to scrimp, Frank.

 

Dammit. I need to see this.

 

I don't know if it'll be on the Hulu+ replay, and I cut the (cable) cord months ago…. Better be online ASAP.

[jennifer6973]

I haven't seen the promo, but I've been out most of the morning.

 

Hopefully somebody will put the link in the media or spoiler topic.

[Turtle]

Well, I can't with wine in a box.

 

 

Some days, wine in a box is the only way I can get through this show. 

[TeeVee329]

Oh Britt, girl.  I know this is what you wanted, but your happiness at being douchetron Nikolas' Plan B makes me sad.  Obviously, her role in Spencer's disappearance will come back to haunt her, but with Liz busy with Jake Doe, I dunno who's going to bother exposing her.

[ulkis]

Aw, Carlos still cares about his BFF Ava lol. Or maybe Sabrina's soul. Whatever. I'll interpret the way I like dammit.

 

Really Sabrina? Gabriel was the only thing that made losing Patrick bearable? Shut it.

 

Why doesn't Silas just tell Nina to leave? He's not even bothering to hide his loathing of her.

[backhometome]

TC always looks like he is sleep walking in his scenes. He brings no energy to his scenes. 

 

I thought it would be Patrick who was dreaming not Sam. I was surprised.

 

I like that Sam checks on her child but no mention of Patrick checking on his. 

 

I'm so sick of Nina. And Ava. why are these characters on like every day.