Episode Discussion: TFGH

[dubbel zout]

I love how Jason excuses Sonny not wearing gloves as him being 18 and not ready for the job he was given. Yes, not leaving fingerprints on a murder weapon is certainly something you only learn with age and experience. At least Sonny knew the truth: He was stupid.

I have a very hard time believing Mike would be okay with people in the bar getting killed by the gas leak, Kristina there or not. (Of course he's not going to care about Julian.) And really, Show, why didn't they have Mike run back to help Kristina? At least that has a modicum of suspense if he'd survive. Jason could still save the day, of course.

I loved Nelle's letter. That's the way to stick the knife in and twist it. Where was this person when she was onscreen and scheming?

There was absolutely no need for a flashback to Nina reading Madeline's note and seeing the necklace.

"You gotta calm down. WHAT ARE YOU DOING AT CHARLIE'S, DAD?" Yes, Sonny, that's the way to handle Mike.

That "explosion" was the lamest thing the show has done in ages. They didn't even wiggle the lights or anything. All we heard was a super lame "pop."

[Perkie]

Mike didn't want anyone to get killed.  He got confused about the time of day.  He kept telling Kristina,  no one should be here, why are people here at night.  Kris pointed out it was still daytime.  

[dubbel zout]

I missed part of that. I kind of hate it anyway. Mike's Alzheimer's should not be used this way. Ugh.

[Cheyanne11]

21 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I missed part of that. I kind of hate it anyway. Mike's Alzheimer's should not be used this way. Ugh.

Exactly.  This isn't about a family coping with an awful disease, it never really was.  It's all about Sonny and his fucking illegal ways.  And it's not even being done with any sort of semblance of interest.  AS IF even if the body was found there wouldn't be enough evidence to convict Sonny, even if his DNA is on the gun (chain of evidence, etc).  AS IF he'd actually, after all the times he's escaped guilty verdicts over the years this would be what had him cluthing his pearls.  Just spare me.  And I know this is an unpopular opinion, but Max Gail needs to dial it down from 15. 

And, well done, show, with the suspense of "oh, did Jason and Kristina make it out in time?" being negated by showing Jason in the previews.  Truly, A+.

[ByaNose]

Thank good Jason is there to save the day. <sarcasm>. Sam will be so great full to him that she will have couch sex with him. Of course, Sonny will blame Julian for everything and throw at least one son of a bitch in there. LOL!!!!

Nina and her adult child is of no interest to me. I think FV is attempting to put an Emmy reel together for Michele Stafford. All the crying is is sooooo annoying. I think we are supposed to feel sorry for her. Didn’t she rip a baby out of Ava’s womb? Granted, it was Ava but still........

Also, isn't Kristina the stupidest and clumsiest girl you ever met?! No wonder she can’t land a job. I guess she will cover up grandpas part in the Charlie’s explosion but feel sorry for Julian. All in all, it was an exciting show today. LOL!!!!!!

[ciarra]

I'm surprised Krissy (Mensa member) didn't "hide" the wrench by tossing it down the stairs, striking a spark and blowing up the building. 

It'll probably be like Luke's old house, and the explosion was limited to the basement (a basement has nothing do with the structure)<eyeroll>, and it's perfectly okay to come to Charlie's for your Avocado toast fix.

Everyone in an accident has to have a scratch on their head.  see: Nelle vs staircase, Michael and Nelle in the car crash.  Mike is still wearing his forehead bandaid.

[LillyB]

I think that it could be a good story line if Krissy developed an interest in Sonny's mob business and wanted to run his end of the mob business and take power away from Sonny. Of all his kids, she may be the only one ruthless to do this. Or at least it  could give her pointless character a point of view.

[30 Helens]

4 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

There was absolutely no need for a flashback to Nina reading Madeline's note and seeing the necklace.

Especially since the scene they were flashing back to had aired approximately 10 minutes before. 

I won’t comment on the dumbness of Nina’s instant realization that necklace = live coma baby, since others have already covered that artfully. Besides, I’m having too much fun picturing Donna Mills with a pair of tinsnips and a metal file, fashioning two half heart necklaces from one.  Quite the craftswoman, that Donna!

[In2You]

6 hours ago, LillyB said:

I think that it could be a good story line if Krissy developed an interest in Sonny's mob business and wanted to run his end of the mob business and take power away from Sonny. Of all his kids, she may be the only one ruthless to do this. Or at least it  could give her pointless character a point of view.

Her whiny crybaby self would see one gun and burst into tears like she usually does.

I haven't seen any of the soaps do right by Alzheimers.

[dubbel zout]

10 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

And, well done, show, with the suspense of "oh, did Jason and Kristina make it out in time?" being negated by showing Jason in the previews.  Truly, A+.

*snicker* Like there was ever any doubt Jason and Kristina wouldn't make it out, but good grief. TFGH—the previews do this all the time.

9 hours ago, ByaNose said:

I guess she will cover up grandpas part in the Charlie’s explosion but feel sorry for Julian.

Please. Julian deserved it. He was unknowingly about to discover Sonny's darkest sekrit, maybe even causing Sonny to go to jail!

2 hours ago, In2You said:

I haven't seen any of the soaps do right by Alzheimers.

I think GH has done a legit decent job with it when it doesn't involve What Happened in Croton. We're grading on a sliding scale, of course, but the story hasn't been completely awful.

[TeeVee329]

12 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Exactly.  This isn't about a family coping with an awful disease, it never really was.  It's all about Sonny and his fucking illegal ways.

And it's so contrived.  Mike - who had abandoned Sonny, thus forcing him into a life of crime because Deke locked him in a closet - just happened to see Sonny bury a body and just happened to move it to the town where Sonny would eventually live under the bar that a nemesis of Sonny's would happen to buy?  Oookkkaaayyy.

[NutmegsDad]

18 hours ago, LillyB said:

How long before Sonny and/or Jason will blame Julian for Mike's actions at Julian's bar.

No bet. Show has been efficient gaslighting viewer's that Carly is Avery's birth mother. It will probably be Julian's grand scheme to give Mike Alzheimer's just to get Sonny.

 

And, on another subject, because it it hits home somewhat, I want to slap Show and the PFMs with hard copies of "The Fault in Our Stars" for the way the Oscar storyline is playing out. With boots to the head to Dr. Kim.

[NutmegsDad]

19 hours ago, LexieLily said:

I mean, if Julian hadn't bought the bar and if he hadn't wanted to expand and forced Sonny's hand into needing to get that dead body moved, Sonny's poor Alzheimer's-riddled father wouldn't have had to come up with a plan to find and move the body again. And Kristina never would have been in danger if Julian hadn't hired her, to spite Sonny of course.

It's all Julian's fault, see?

Any other mob-centric show that doesn't star MB would have its lead mobster brought down, not by the decades-old body and gun encased in cement, but with the paper trail and payoffs to all the contractors to overbid the renovation job, as well as the payoffs to the municipal code enforcement agencies bullshitting on delays for permits.

 

Pedant, but as effective. 

[ciarra]

14 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

Besides, I’m having too much fun picturing Donna Mills with a pair of tinsnips and a metal file, fashioning two half heart necklaces from one.  Quite the craftswoman, that Donna!

Actually these heart charms were a thing in the 90's, maybe they still are?  You'd buy one, snap it in half.  Usually it said "best friends". 

[BlancheDevoreaux]

22 hours ago, LillyB said:

How long before Sonny and/or Jason will blame Julian for Mike's actions at Julian's bar.

Personally, I'm shocked they haven't said Ava is responsible for Nathan's death.  I mean, no doubt they are thrilled to have Jason of Nazareth back, but Ava getting him back contributed Faison coming to Port Charles...  well, that and wanting to see Nathan but we can ignore that to blame the evil Jerome family.

[Benji]

Ok, what the hell did Sam say to Jason in that last scene at the hospital ? Jason said, about Oscar, I hope he's alright. Then Sam said, we all do. Then she said something else, but it was so low and mumbled, I couldn't make it out. I really have to strain to understand her most times.

[LexieLily]

Margaraux's dad is the body from Croton. How shocking.

[TeeVee329]

2 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Margaraux's dad is the body from Croton. How shocking.

W.H.A.T.

[Cheyanne11]

2 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Margaraux's dad is the body from Croton. How shocking.

And this connection will probably have Sonny screaming she should be disbarred, nevermind that his son worked every criminal case Sonny was involved in (and looked the other way more times than can be counted).

[TeeVee329]

What's this I'm reading on Twitter that Kristina told Alexis her being in an exploding building was a "non-event".  Does this self-absorbed twit not know her namesake died in an exploding building?

Edited September 11, 2018 by TeeVee329

[YaddaYadda]

Did Sam forget Scout was sleeping upstairs when she left with Alexis?

[Hater]

1 minute ago, YaddaYadda said:

Did Sam forget Scout was sleeping upstairs when she left with Alexis?

She said Monica took them.  After they had to wake her up from her nap and all. 

If Drew is going to continue to get stuck in scenes with Kristina's lookalike, I'm done with clips.  Drew still hasn't gotten his memories back but Margo has an entire backstory.

[30 Helens]

52 minutes ago, ciarra said:

Actually these heart charms were a thing in the 90's, maybe they still are?  You'd buy one, snap it in half.  Usually it said "best friends". 

I know. I’m just more amused by the idea of Madeline doing it herself. Or Nina thinking she did. With this show, I find that I often need to make my own entertainment.

[dubbel zout]

37 minutes ago, Hater said:

Drew still hasn't gotten his memories back

I wonder if he ever will. It's not like the show will use it to give Drew any story.

[LexieLily]

How far out does GH tape? Genie is back on set today and I was curious when is the earliest we will see Laura.

[TeeVee329]

2 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

How far out does GH tape? Genie is back on set today and I was curious when is the earliest we will see Laura.

I think it's like 4-6 weeks?

[Linny]

What a nice opportunity today to compare and contrast Sam and Drew at the beginning of the episode to Sam and Jason at the end. Sam and Drew: warm and supportive conversation; physically close and affectionate. Sam and Jason: "run into" each other in the most loose interpretation of that phrase, 'cause these two always leave a healthy 18 inches of distance between them; bland platitudes about how lucky the world is that Jason Morgan exists.

Like??? The difference is so striking. If the show's going to doggedly insist that the JaSam door remain kicked open, then at least let them touch. She's thanking him for saving her sister and can't so much as touch his arm, it's ridiculous. These people share a kid and once shared a happy marriage, yet they act more like awkward strangers who maybe once shared a cab and now feel obligated to wave when they pass each other. 

Meanwhile, Drew's forced to listen to Margaux's daddy issues (which OF COURSE ties into Sonny and that damn dead body), all the while knowing zilch about his own past. I kind of hope BM does jump ship, any potential for him on this show was squandered the moment he transitioned into Drew.

[ulkis]

That preview of Finn's post sex hair . . . not necessarily gross, but errr not the sexy rumpled affect they were going for.

"Why did you do that?" Garrin Stitt cannot even say regular dialogue.

Which skeleton reveal was more ridiculous, this one or the Bill Eckert one?

I'm biased but Mike's best grandkid scenes were with Dante. Mike with Michael and Kristina they have to act like they've known and have a big relationship with each other but we didn't get to see it on-screen. With Dante and Mike both the characters and the audience had the relationship start at the same time. This whole paragraph was prompted by Mike yelling "Krissy!!"

I'm surprised Joss isn't called Jossie and Morgan wasn't called Mo-mo or some shit like that. "Poor little Mo-mo, as he was known in our tight, wonderfully close-knit family, loved to make gingerbread houses!"

Sam: I'm here to pick up a prescription . . . and to see you.

Prescriptions and Jasam. Nothing hotter.

[YaddaYadda]

4 minutes ago, Linny said:

Meanwhile, Drew's forced to listen to Margaux's daddy issues (which OF COURSE ties into Sonny and that damn dead body), all the while knowing zilch about his own past. I kind of hope BM does jump ship, any potential for him on this show was squandered the moment he transitioned into Drew.

It's sad. They could have given Drew a lot with his past. I still don't understand why they refuse to give him his memories back.

[ulkis]

4 minutes ago, Linny said:

What a nice opportunity today to compare and contrast Sam and Drew at the beginning of the episode to Sam and Jason at the end. Sam and Drew: warm and supportive conversation; physically close and affectionate. Sam and Jason: "run into" each other in the most loose interpretation of that phrase, 'cause these two always leave a healthy 18 inches of distance between them; bland platitudes about how lucky the world is that Jason Morgan exists.

Like??? The difference is so striking. If the show's going to doggedly insist that the JaSam door remain kicked open, then at least let them touch. 

I think it's the actors not the writers. I suppose it's possible it's the writers trying to go for sexual tension and not the actors, but I'd be surprised.

[LillyB]

Did the writers forget that Krissy almost got blown up before when Sonny put a bomb in Johnny's car?

[Hater]

12 minutes ago, Linny said:

What a nice opportunity today to compare and contrast Sam and Drew at the beginning of the episode to Sam and Jason at the end. Sam and Drew: warm and supportive conversation; physically close and affectionate. Sam and Jason: "run into" each other in the most loose interpretation of that phrase, 'cause these two always leave a healthy 18 inches of distance between them; bland platitudes about how lucky the world is that Jason Morgan exists.

Like??? The difference is so striking. If the show's going to doggedly insist that the JaSam door remain kicked open, then at least let them touch. She's thanking him for saving her sister and can't so much as touch his arm, it's ridiculous. These people share a kid and once shared a happy marriage, yet they act more like awkward strangers who maybe once shared a cab and now feel obligated to wave when they pass each other. 

Meanwhile, Drew's forced to listen to Margaux's daddy issues (which OF COURSE ties into Sonny and that damn dead body), all the while knowing zilch about his own past. I kind of hope BM does jump ship, any potential for him on this show was squandered the moment he transitioned into Drew.

The new spin is that "it's awkward for Jason and Sam to touch" and this is all deliberate.  According to the "insiders."

I do find that Drew/Sam, while there is more touching going on than "super couple Jasam" are now completely friend zoned.

Margo just grates on my nerves and the actress is horribly miscast just to pair her with Billy.  How long before she's given a contract? 

Spoiler

I want to see how Kelly is when she gets back from her surgery, but for months she's basically done nothing in these scenes with Burton.

Edited September 11, 2018 by Hater

[ulkis]

Just now, LillyB said:

Did the writers forget that Krissy almost got blown up before when Sonny put a bomb in Johnny's car?

No. Alexis said to Sonny "for once this explosion didn't involve you."

[Hater]

6 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Sam: I'm here to pick up a prescription . . . and to see you.

Prescriptions and Jasam. Nothing hotter.

What about permission slips?  That really gets the motor running!!!!

[Oracle42]

31 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I wonder if he ever will. It's not like the show will use it to give Drew any story.

I'm not sure they can. We've been seeing Drew's personality since the first day - he's never been like Jason, so that's not going to change. He had no friends, no family (except Oscar), no loved ones and apparently none of his former brothers-in-arms will ever speak to him again. All of the excuses that they've made for him to avoid looking into his past kind of undermined their ability to mine story from it.

[ulkis]

And when James Franco was on the show did anyone ever think we would see Liz cuddling up with him, recast with Roger Howarth, talking about how to raise her kids? I guess maybe the Simpsons might have predicted it.

[ciarra]

54 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

I know.

Sorry, I'm extra dense today.

[Hater]

5 minutes ago, ulkis said:

And when James Franco was on the show did anyone ever think we would see Liz cuddling up with him, recast with Roger Howarth, talking about how to raise her kids? I guess maybe the Simpsons might have predicted it.

Talk about nauseating.  

[dubbel zout]

17 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Which skeleton reveal was more ridiculous, this one or the Bill Eckert one?

Even not having seen today's ep yet, I can confidently say the Bill Eckert one.

[Sake614]

Alexis: Kristina was in an explosoin

Sam: okay let’s go. 

Um, aren’t you forgetting something? Like your BABY who you just told your mother that Drew came to see? Or is scout now old enough to stay home alone?

[Hater]

Friz really do disgust me nowadays and I say that as someone who thinks the actors work well together.  Do something already with that pairing.  So dry and this is the only "romantic" pairing on the show.  Blow them up.  Every other couple has gotten wrecked for no real reason.

[Perkie]

This show is so effing lazy sometimes it drives me crazy.  This giant gas explosion literally caused no structural damage to the building.  The building is still standing, Chase was able to walk down the stairs, the gas pipe suffered no damage other than the dent that Mike caused.  Julian didn't even need to evacuate the building. All the customers could have stayed there and enjoyed their beer since nothing seemed damaged.  There was some bristol board looking pieces of what? the wall?  lying around in a couple of places.  No giant crater like hole in the floor, not even broken pane in the freakin' window.  And right there amongst the fake drywall sits a skull.  Julian didn't need to renovate the building to find it, all he had to do was sweep the floor. 

17 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Even not having seen today's ep yet, I can confidently say the Bill Eckert one.

Oh, I don't know.  I'm actually fondly looking back on that Bill Eckert reveal.    Good times, good times!!

[Hater]

9 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

Alexis: Kristina was in an explosoin

Sam: okay let’s go. 

Um, aren’t you forgetting something? Like your BABY who you just told your mother that Drew came to see? Or is scout now old enough to stay home alone?

They lazily wrote in that Monica had come by and taken Scout, Danny, and Rocco (why he was there, no clue).   Even though Scout was woken up intentionally to see her dad.

Edited September 11, 2018 by Hater

[NutmegsDad]

So, the DA's full name is Cabernet Sauvignon. 

[LexieLily]

6 minutes ago, Hater said:

They lazily wrote in that Monica had come by and taken Scout, Danny, and Rocco (why he was there, no clue).   Even though Scout was woken up intentionally to see her dad.

Since when does Sam babysit Rocco? 

[LillyB]

Sam babysits no one,, not even her own kids.

[TeeVee329]

Maybe that's what brings Laura back, a text from Monica being all, "Babysit your own grandkids!".

53 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Which skeleton reveal was more ridiculous, this one or the Bill Eckert one?

They shouldn't even bother trying because nothing will surpass my boy Nash on OLTL.

[dubbel zout]

4 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

They shouldn't even bother trying because nothing will surpass my boy Nash on OLTL.

This show wishes it could reach that level of soapy camp.

[ulkis]

25 minutes ago, Perkie said:

This show is so effing lazy sometimes it drives me crazy.  This giant gas explosion literally caused no structural damage to the building.  The building is still standing, Chase was able to walk down the stairs, the gas pipe suffered no damage other than the dent that Mike caused.  Julian didn't even need to evacuate the building. All the customers could have stayed there and enjoyed their beer since nothing seemed damaged.  There was some bristol board looking pieces of what? the wall?  lying around in a couple of places.  No giant crater like hole in the floor, not even broken pane in the freakin' window.  And right there amongst the fake drywall sits a skull.  Julian didn't need to renovate the building to find it, all he had to do was sweep the floor. 

Oh, I don't know.  I'm actually fondly looking back on that Bill Eckert reveal.    Good times, good times!!

This reminds me, remember when someone asked Ron why the Spencer house was still standing and Ron replied that the explosion was in the basement only? Oh Ron.

Edited September 11, 2018 by ulkis

[Gam2]

Perhaps someone could explain something to me. Isn’t Monica a cardiologist, chief of staff of GH and the matriarch of the Quartermaine family and mansion? And 85 years old? How does she have enough time and energy to take care of 3 small children? Of course, she has servants to staff the mansion who do the actual “caring” for the children but how did she come by to pick up the kids in the middle of the day instead of being at GH checking in on Kristina? Or am I making the huge mistake of trying to make some, any kind of sense of this absolute nonsense that is killing the soaps. I really need a big glass of wine.