Episode Discussion: TFGH

[TeeVee329]

6 hours ago, LexieLily said:

If Ryan is the one running around Port Charles for the last six months or so, how did he know to get a wedding ring? How did he know Kevin had gotten married again? 

I think the switch is very recent, when Kevin quote went to visit Laura unquote.  I think we're gonna find out that visit never happened, that was just Ryan skipping town for a few minutes to get ready to impersonate Kevin.

[Perkie]

6 hours ago, Thinbalina said:

No one except Shawn goes to jail.

And Matt and Steven, you know the evil criminals.  

 

Speaking of, shouldn't any or all three of those be out of prison by now?  

28 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

  I think we're gonna find out that visit never happened, that was just Ryan skipping town for a few minutes to get ready to impersonate Kevin.

But Patient Collins; hair looked super long, (and unkempt, he clearly wasn't given the same wash and fluff treatment that Carly got while in her padded cell!!).  It made me think that Patient Collins had been in there for awhile.  

[statsgirl]

41 minutes ago, Perkie said:

and unkempt, he clearly wasn't given the same wash and fluff treatment that Carly got while in her padded cell!!)

This is outrageous! He should demand equal treatment!

Ryan could have taken off Kevin's wedding ring and put it on his own finger since he was going to be playing Kevin.

[GHScorpiosRule]

Returning from the Barge only to get my ❤️????❤️ROBERT!FUCKING!!SCORPIO!!!❤️????❤️ Fix, the best part was his “It’s Tempting! SOOO tempting!”  and “Your Ass is Mine” lines to whinyfakseson. Honorable mention to his threat about hurting Robin.

What?

The small bit I didn’t fast forward of the “trial” was laughable and made me ???????

Because not only am I a ?‍? from the Law & Order School, but I also work in the legal field. First, the speed with how this got to trial is ridonkulous, but par for the course for teevee* and especially this show. And during direct or cross examination, lawyers aren’t supposed to direct their comments to the jury like Alexis did about what the definition of coercion is; and the witness isn’t supposed to look at the jury and tell them the defendant shouldn’t get away with whatever crime/suit they’ve been charged with, like Lauren did. I swear, this show, back in the ‘80s and ‘90s used to do a better job.

Not to mention cell phones are NOT allowed in the courtroom; AND witnesses who are on the list to testify are NOT allowed in the room until AFTER they testify as not to have said testimony influenced. 

But then I had to Gibbs Head Smack myself to remind myself what fakakta show this is.

*Law & Order had those placards that showed the realistic passage of time to the trial. You know the cha-chung sound!

Edited August 12, 2018 by GHScorpiosRule

[MarciNJ]

10 hours ago, LexieLily said:

If Ryan is the one running around Port Charles for the last six months or so, how did he know to get a wedding ring? How did he know Kevin had gotten married again? 

Maybe he took Kevin's ring in the switch. Which is fairly logical, so I'm sure the writers will not think of it

[ByaNose]

NLG looked very pretty last week. She has parted her hair on the side before but she looks different but I can’t figute out why?! Maybe, she lost weight. Also, as much as I can’t stand Carly I was hoping she’d get to kick MaryPat’s ass. 

[MarciNJ]

On 8/12/2018 at 8:58 AM, TeeVee329 said:

I think the switch is very recent, when Kevin quote went to visit Laura unquote.  I think we're gonna find out that visit never happened, that was just Ryan skipping town for a few minutes to get ready to impersonate Kevin.

I think it goes back at least to that scene where "Kevin" was staring at Faison's brain that he kept in a jar on his desk.  That may have been our first clue that something was off about Kevin.

[Asp Burger]

Waits in his office / Staring at brains that he keeps in a jar by the door / Who are they for? 

I guess there's always a possibility that this is a really long game, and Laura has never had a relationship with the real one. 

[Thinbalina]

As far as the Kevin story I'm kind of excited but I don't have too much faith in the writers. I'm just glad to have a story for these 2 actors. This show isn't very generous and the fact they are finally providing a viable story isn't much but I hope despite the writing the actors knock it out the park.

[TeeVee329]

21 minutes ago, Asp Burger said:

I guess there's always a possibility that this is a really long game, and Laura has never had a relationship with the real one. 

Oh dear, as I mentioned in another thread, they would be wise to avoid any scenario where Laura slept with/sleeps with Ryan thinking he's Kevin.  Laura's story doesn't need more rape, IMO.

Edited August 13, 2018 by TeeVee329

[dubbel zout]

Laura doesn't need to be a victim yet again. I hope when GF returns, Laura immediately knows that's not Kevin running around PC and she teams up with Lucy to fix it all.

[Oracle42]

Kevin/Ryan are supposed to be some of the earlier "twins" from Faison's project, right? Is there a possibility that it is Kevin but he was an earlier experiment so he ended up with some of Ryan's memories but without a complete and permanent overlay?  It's Faison, so he wouldn't be looking for 2 versions of Kevin, he'd want a copy of Ryan. Same reason he'd want a copy of Jason instead of Drew.  He wanted useful/destructive criminals

Plus, I'd be totally ok, if the reason Anna "remembers" giving birth to LWB/FS is because she has an overlay of Alex's memories from her time in DVX.

[TeeVee329]

8 minutes ago, Oracle42 said:

Plus, I'd be totally ok, if the reason Anna "remembers" giving birth to LWB/FS is because she has an overlay of Alex's memories from her time in DVX.

That would be the easiest way out of this garbage - somehow, someway, Alex is actually LWB/FS's mother.  I mean, sucks for Alex, but thems the breaks.

You know, I just saw an episode count year-to-date - it's Sonny, Carly, the Jasons, Sam, and then right under them, LWB/FS.  Ridiculous.

[CharethCutestory]

Please no to Laura marrying and sleeping with Ryan the whole time or for one iota of the time they've been together. It's not soapy its just disgusting. She's been through enough. Let her be the smart, savvy hero in this story and not a victim.

I can see Kevin keeping Ryan a secret and working with Faison at some point or some other shady people to protect his identity. Ferncliffe is already corrupt so it's not a far cry to think for the right price they would go along with a plan to hide Ryan. Let the switch happen just before Laura comes back so that she can sense right away that something is off with Kevin. 

[tvfanatic13]

On 8/12/2018 at 10:57 AM, GHScorpiosRule said:

Returning from the Barge only to get my ❤️????❤️ROBERT!FUCKING!!SCORPIO!!!❤️????❤️ Fix, the best part was his “It’s Tempting! SOOO tempting!”  and “Your Ass is Mine” lines to whinyfakseson. Honorable mention to his threat about hurting Robin.

What?

The small bit I didn’t fast forward of the “trial” was laughable and made me ???????

Because not only am I a ?‍? from the Law & Order School, but I also work in the legal field. First, the speed with how this got to trial is ridonkulous, but par for the course for teevee* and especially this show. And during direct or cross examination, lawyers aren’t supposed to direct their comments to the jury like Alexis did about what the definition of coercion is; and the witness isn’t supposed to look at the jury and tell them the defendant shouldn’t get away with whatever crime/suit they’ve been charged with, like Lauren did. I swear, this show, back in the ‘80s and ‘90s used to do a better job.

Not to mention cell phones are NOT allowed in the courtroom; AND witnesses who are on the list to testify are NOT allowed in the room until AFTER they testify as not to have said testimony influenced. 

But then I had to Gibbs Head Smack myself to remind myself what fakakta show this is.

*Law & Order had those placards that showed the realistic passage of time to the trial. You know the cha-chung sound!

Phones are now allowed in courtrooms most places, although they have to be off. But everything else is spot on!

[BlancheDevoreaux]

OH BULLSHIT!  Robert Scorpio does not call Jason to back him up. This show is obnoxious.

[Melgaypet]

You know who Robert could call for back-up (not that he needs back-up, but if he wanted to)? WSB Agent Lucky Spencer! #NeverGonnaLetItGo

[LexieLily]

Shut up, Griffin. "We were on a break/I was convinced we were broken up" didn't work for Ross and it's not going to work for you, either.

[BlancheDevoreaux]

8 minutes ago, Melgaypet said:

You know who Robert could call for back-up (not that he needs back-up, but if he wanted to)? WSB Agent Lucky Spencer! #NeverGonnaLetItGo

That would have been good.  We could actually start a list of people who should have been called before Jason.  I'd add Mac to the list.

[TeeVee329]

Congratulations, Show, you got me to root for the bratty teenager mouthing off to adults because the bratty teenager was Cameron and the "adults" were Franco and Liz and Cameron angrily reminding them both that Franco isn't his father did the heart good.  Otherwise, this teen triangle with him/Joss/Oscar off to a snoozy start.

Fuckin' Griffin.  "We were on a break!" didn't work for Ross and Ross had the benefit of a) the copy shop girl not being Rachel's daughter and b) not sexing up Rachel in the same sheets where he slept with the copy shop girl, like, twelve hours earlier.

ETA...LexieLily, I wrote my Ross-related snark before I read yours, I swear lol!

Edited August 13, 2018 by TeeVee329

[YaddaYadda]

Run, Oscar, run from she-beast Jr. I thought I was watching Carly interacting with Oscar.

[LexieLily]

6 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Congratulations, Show, you got me to root for the bratty teenager mouthing off to adults because the bratty teenager was Cameron and the "adults" were Franco and Liz and Cameron angrily reminding them both that Franco isn't his father did the heart good.  Otherwise, this teen triangle with him/Joss/Oscar off to a snoozy start.

Fuckin' Griffin.  "We were on a break!" didn't work for Ross and Ross had the benefit of a) the copy shop girl not being Rachel's daughter and b) not sexing up Rachel in the same sheets where he slept with the copy shop girl, like, twelve hours earlier.

ETA...LexieLily, I wrote my Ross-related snark before I read yours, I swear lol!

LOL, @TeeVee329, anyone that watches Friends is a friend of mine! 

It's so stupid of Elizabeth to be preaching responsibility and doing the right thing to Cameron when she is standing next to and months away from making Cameron's stepfather a serial killer that never took responsibility for any of his crimes. Cameron stealing earphones is bad but Franco kidnapping Cameron's little brother is totally cool!

[TeeVee329]

Franco committed a crime like five minutes ago!  Helping break Carly out of Ferncliff, hello!  And Liz was all supes proud and supportive of him. 

Shut up, Liz.

[YaddaYadda]

I do so love it when St. Jasus is on the scene, everyone becomes more brain damaged than he is. St. Jasus to the rescue. Not all heroes wear capes, one of them wears a black tee that has not been washed in the past 30 years.

[Benji]

I wasn't paying attention. What did Jason pick up off the floor ?

[Linny]

Fucking Cassandra, show, really? Wasn't interested the first go round, not gonna be interested the second time around. And it would have been nice to enjoy Robert without the taint of Jason Morgan, but alas.

Franco worrying about overstepping his bounds with Cam and saying he thinks Cam doesn't get enough attention at home smells like a big Franco Saves the Day moment in the making, wherein Franco wins Cam over so things can be hunky-dory leading into his and Liz's nuptials, and I'm going to preemptively give that scenario two thumbs down.

Griffin's "we were broken up" and "there was no attraction until that night" is a bunch of mealy-mouthed bullshit. He and Kiki crossed emotional boundaries long before they got physical, and their sex scene was given serious and extensive treatment that's usually reserved for actual couples. Their night together meant something to him, he's just too afraid to confront it.

[MarciNJ]

2 hours ago, CharethCutestory said:

Please no to Laura marrying and sleeping with Ryan the whole time or for one iota of the time they've been together. It's not soapy its just disgusting. She's been through enough. Let her be the smart, savvy hero in this story and not a victim.

I can see Kevin keeping Ryan a secret and working with Faison at some point or some other shady people to protect his identity. Ferncliffe is already corrupt so it's not a far cry to think for the right price they would go along with a plan to hide Ryan. Let the switch happen just before Laura comes back so that she can sense right away that something is off with Kevin. 

I agree with no more rape in Laura's story.   I know what they can do - bring Emma in for a visit and have her bump into Ryan at GH - she will know immediately that he isn't the real Kevin.

53 minutes ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

That would have been good.  We could actually start a list of people who should have been called before Jason.  I'd add Mac to the list.

I'd add Avery or Leo.   Or James.

Edited August 13, 2018 by MarciNJ

[TeeVee329]

7 minutes ago, Linny said:

Griffin's "we were broken up" and "there was no attraction until that night" is a bunch of mealy-mouthed bullshit. He and Kiki crossed emotional boundaries long before they got physical, and their sex scene was given serious and extensive treatment that's usually reserved for actual couples. Their night together meant something to him, he's just too afraid to confront it.

Here's my question - now that The Secret is out, does the show wants us to root for Griffin and Kiki to get together for real/as a couple?  I'm honestly not sure.

[LexieLily]

5 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Here's my question - now that The Secret is out, does the show wants us to root for Griffin and Kiki to get together for real/as a couple?  I'm honestly not sure.

Have they interacted at all since their ONS except to look guiltily around to make sure no one is listening when they talk about their SECRET WHICH MUST NOT GET OUT? 

[Perkie]

18 minutes ago, Benji said:

I wasn't paying attention. What did Jason pick up off the floor ?

A pill.  Which, after checking his phone, and Robert confirming that it's one that Anna takes for her blood condition.  

3 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Have they interacted at all since their ONS except to look guiltily around to make sure no one is listening when they talk about their SECRET WHICH MUST NOT GET OUT? 

They're interacting all the freakin' time.  They're everywhere together, saying how they can't be seen together and not wanting people to find out they slept together.  It's how Scotty overheard them.  Not the sharpest knives in the drawer those two.  

1 hour ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

Robert Scorpio does not call Jason to back him up

How stupid was that?  "I couldn't wait for my WSB back up to come with me".  What?  So you tracked down Jason, likely hanging out in either Carly or Sonny's backside, explained the whole story, waited why he spent eleventy minutes looking constipated and deciding whether you're worthy of him helping you, then took off with him.  And that took less time than a WSB back up guy?    Like, did SBu only have 29 out of 30 epsides this month?  

[Melgaypet]

3 minutes ago, Perkie said:

They're interacting all the freakin' time.  They're everywhere together, saying how they can't be seen together and not wanting people to find out they slept together.  It's how Scotty overheard them.  Not the sharpest knives in the drawer those two.

I know this is a soap convention that has been around forever, but it is just so, so dumb. For god's sake, if they must constantly remind each other about their SECRET THAT NO ONE MUST KNOW, can't they text? Not that there isn't risks in that - someone can steal one of their phones or something - but it doesn't look half so suspicious. Are we supposed to feel sorry for them that they were rumbled? They're idiots.

[TeeVee329]

9 minutes ago, Perkie said:

A pill.  Which, after checking his phone, and Robert confirming that it's one that Anna takes for her blood condition.  

So there goes it possibly being Alex, I guess.

[LexieLily]

29 minutes ago, Linny said:

Fucking Cassandra, show, really? Wasn't interested the first go round, not gonna be interested the second time around. And it would have been nice to enjoy Robert without the taint of Jason Morgan, but alas.

Wait, Cassandra? I thought Valentin covered up the death after Nina killed her?

[HeatLifer]

Is Liz considered poor again? Am I supposed to believe the fathers aren’t paying her child support? I was half-asleep watching this episode, so I may have missed details.

I always wanted Jason to interact with Anna and Robert....in the ‘90s. I don’t get why it’s being done now with Robin out of the picture. Jason can’t interact with his own family?

[TeeVee329]

8 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Wait, Cassandra? I thought Valentin covered up the death after Nina killed her?

Valentin covered for her, but Nina only drugged her/landed her in a coma.

Poor Jessica Tuck.

[Perkie]

14 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

So there goes it possibly being Alex, I guess.

When she took out the tracker, I thought it could be Alex, but today, just felt very Anna-ish in everything she did and said.  Plus she was being given blood when we first saw her on the gurney wherever they were holding her, and she told Finn that day that they'd been giving her the treatments she needs.  

 

12 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Wait, Cassandra? I thought Valentin covered up the death after Nina killed her?

ValNina thought she had killed Cassandra, but she was only in a coma, and put into WSB security.  But at the end today, Robert got a call that someone had been taken, then Fanna were told by the goons that the woman they want removed from the coma is Cassandra (along with her picture in case we forgot who she was)

11 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

Is Liz considered poor again? A

She's poor in the "works a normal job for a living" way.  She's not rich in the "I'm a criminal therefore better than you lowly working person" way.    

Cam was all, "my earbuds are from 2015 which is why i had to steal these".  Dude, if they were still working, shut up and keep using them, snot nosed kid.  

Also, I loved Joss' justification.  "my life was shit so I stole stuff".  Girl, considering who your mother and stepfather are, your life will be shit for a long time.  Find a way to deal with that doesn't include criminal activity.  though I guess that apple didn't fall far from the tree/step tree.  

Edited August 13, 2018 by Perkie

[Perkie]

I loved Maura's line read on:

"For months I couldn't get you to say you love me and now you can't shut up about it."  

[CharethCutestory]

36 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Here's my question - now that The Secret is out, does the show wants us to root for Griffin and Kiki to get together for real/as a couple?  I'm honestly not sure.

I think so?? They hold my interest as much as any couple currently paired on the show. Not at all. But whatever, may as well try it out and see what happens. They should've been amping up the Griki tension ever since the nurses ball and all of this was unfolding so we know if they're worth putting together or not. But that'd be drama. And this is GH. The anti-soap soap. 

Griffin actually showed some emotion in that scene with Ava. Finally. I enjoyed it. I have no doubt thanks largely to MW who pushed MC and the scene that way. So CD is now winning by a hair in the which leading man is the dullest category. 

[HeatLifer]

14 minutes ago, Perkie said:

She's poor in the "works a normal job for a living" way.  She's not rich in the "I'm a criminal therefore better than you lowly working person" way.    

I’m just curious if she’s the only one supporting herself and the family.

[TeeVee329]

I feel like Liz is "poor" when it's needed for a plot point.  As in here, with Franco to the rescue with all her SERIAL KILLER money.

[RedheadZombie]

On August 11, 2018 at 11:43 PM, gp1999 said:

Yeah but Drew gained those memories back after he had this whole new personality it is interesting to think of 

I don’t think brining AJ back would make sense since they literally showed him being escorted to heaven lol 

Not-dead Anna's ghost visited Robin to comfort her.  The show doesn't really care about that stuff, apparently.  

My vote is for Georgie.  I imagine her slapping the back of Maxie's head and asking, where's my namesake?  Why don't you have your first child?  How did you fuck up this time, Maxie?

[LillyB]

Isn't Jason paying some decent child support for Jake?

[MarciNJ]

1 minute ago, TeeVee329 said:

I feel like Liz is "poor" when it's needed for a plot point.  As in here, with Franco to the rescue with all her SERIAL KILLER money.

didn't Emily (Nicholas?) buy her the house she lives in?  I feel like without a mortgage, plus a nurses salary, plus whatever Lucky/Jason give her (and all the free child care from Audrey), she should be okay, financially....

[TeeVee329]

Wasn't there some nonsense at some point about Liz investing money Jason had given her for Jake into a lousy stock? 

And of course, there was all the money trouble with Liz/Lucky leading into her being a surrogate for Jax and SWSNBN, right?

Edited August 13, 2018 by TeeVee329

[Cheyanne11]

Just now, MarciNJ said:

didn't Emily (Nicholas?) buy her the house she lives in?  I feel like without a mortgage, plus a nurses salary, plus whatever Lucky/Jason give her (and all the free child care from Audrey), she should be okay, financially....

I don't think so.  Jason bought her the previous house, and when that burned down/blew up/whatever she got some insurance money which I thought she used to buy this house.  

Does Jason give her anything?  Not sure that's clear at all.  And Lucky who? 

[TeeVee329]

It's like on OLTL, how Rex and Gigi were often portrayed as the "poor" underdog couple, never mind that Rex owned a business and got handed big checks for his incompetent PI work and Gigi lived rent-free on the grounds of a mansion.

[HeatLifer]

I know Liz has always consistently been portrayed as someone who’s “struggling” but in this case, she has two baby daddies who should be paying her child support and it’s like that part is never brought up?

[TeeVee329]

Liz also saved a BUNDLE in child care over the years considering how much off-screen babysitting Audrey did.

[GHScorpiosRule]

Yes, Liz had money, but she invested in this “amazing!!” Stock that her brother, Stephen told her about. And it tanked, so instead of making more ?, she lost a bundle.

[Oracle42]

I'm pretty sure Jakeson/Drew set up child support for Jake when he and Liz split up