Kim Kardashian Thomas Humphries West

[iwasish]

I don't think Kim underwent fertility treatments either. She barely pays attention to the kid she has now, so I can't see her going through the effort. I think Kanye and his Texas-sized ego wanted an "heir" so they did the whole gender selection rigamarole with in vitro.

I also think the fertility issues were a set-up for a possible surrogate, but Kim and Pimp Mama changed their minds when they realized the public would figure out Kim went that route due to vanity, not necessity.

As for Khloe, I think Lamar had a vasectomy and never told her.

I always suspected that also. If I recall he bailed a bunch of times on his "appointments' with the fertility specialist. I also think their sex life wasn't all that.. If you need latex suits, sex swings and sexy videos after a year or two of marriage, I'd say its a pretty big red flag. And when hubby prefers to play video games with his brother in law instead of getting some? And how many men want their brother in law LIVING with them while still a newlywed? Lamar was a mess right from the start. All the warning signs were there, she just ignored them.

[DangerousMinds]

Her stylist is Kanye, her nutritionist is Kanye.... I see a pattern.

And apparently Princess Kanye also has his own stylist? For holey jeans and platform sneakers.

[Kromm]

How do you spin rumors you aren't pregnant so that it seems to compliment you?

Us Magazine: Kim Kardashian "Secretly Loved" Rumors She Was Faking Her Pregnancy

 

“I secretly loved the rumors I was faking my pregnancy bc I was so skinny! LOL,”

[Lakewood27]

“I secretly loved the rumors I was faking my pregnancy bc I was so skinny! LOL,”

It's not because you're "skinny". It's because you're vain, and an unrepentant liar.

[evilmindatwork]

 

father was involved in Kim's divorce right from the start, I suspect those claims were made to secure a nice financial settlement for her. I'd take them with a big ole grain of salt.

Kim is all about Kim, she isn't going to marry anyone who will pull her down, I think she has learned a lot from Kris, two peas in a pod. Kanye was a smart choice because he doesn't expect her to put her career on hold for babies and neither is bothered by the others frequent travel and being apart from each other. Kim freaked when she realized she had to share with Kris H and make room for his stuff in her closets. She and Kanye are the types to buy a big enough place so they can have their "own" space and not share.

 

 

Has Damon ever responded to Kim's abuse claims? They're so specific and serious that I'd think there was at least some truth to them, but who knows? Was Robert Sr. actively practicing law at that time, or did he step in more informally a la OJ?

 

 

Rob Sr., wasn't exactly a practicing attorney, I think.  He had to renew his bar license to be counted as counsel for OJ. If Rob Sr., was involved in her divorce, I think, that's absolutely fine, she was very young at the time and he had some knowledge of the legal field-- any decent father would help in a situation like that IMO.  I would hesitate to discount her claims-- she wasn't famous at the time. She was also married, at 19, to someone over 10 years older. I think the power differential in that relationship is enough for me to take her claims seriously.

 

 

ETA: this is just a reply from some conversations about Kim from the Scott thread. 

Edited July 20, 2015 by evilmindatwork

[BitterApple]

Even if he was involved in the settlement, I would hesitate to discount her claims-- she wasn't famous at the time. She was also married at 19 to someone over 10 years older than her... I think the power differential in that relationship is enough for me to take her claims seriously.

I wouldn't either. You have to wonder why a guy in his late 20s would marry a teenager when there are plenty of attractive women available around his own age. He was probably a control freak, and many of those types have abusive tendencies.

[merylinkid]

Like Kanye?   You must dress the way I say.   The temperature has to be kept a certain one.   Etc.    The man is a control freak with rage tendencies.    This is the only part I feel sorry for Kim.   Kanye completely controls her.   We don't know what goes on behind closed doors that makes her go along with it.    Domestic violence is not about the hitting, its about the control.

 

Yes, even with someone with her money and fame can be in an abusive relationship.   She might even be more trapped because people will say "Huh, she's got money, she got resources, why doesn't she get out?"    Well, the taking away your power and self-esteem so you think you CANNOT get out is all part of the abuse.

[BitterApple]

Merylinkid, I agree. Kanye is a narcissist and they're prone to having explosive tempers. They're also experts at destroying their partner's sense of self-worth. I could absolutely see Kanye throwing it in Kim's face that she wouldn't have had her Vogue cover, front row seats at fashion shows or invitations to the Met gala if it weren't for him. We know Kim is self-conscious about her weight, yet her husband insists she wear clothes not meant for her body type. Not to mention she's had more plastic surgery while with Kanye than all of her other relationships combined. It wouldn't surprise me if Kanye was an emotionally abusive asshole behind closed doors.

Edited July 20, 2015 by BitterApple

[GaT]

I could absolutely see Kanye throwing it in Kim's face that she wouldn't have had her Vogue cover, front row seats at fashion shows or invitations to the Met gala if it weren't for him. 

Well, he would be right, Kim wouldn't have any of these things if it wasn't for Kanye. Kanye didn't have to take control of Kim, she voluntarily gave up control to get all the things he could give her.

[JocelynCavanaugh]

Just to clarify, I wasn't implying that Kim fabricated the abuse. I do think it's important to listen to women (and men) in that situation, even if they're heinous beeyotches in other areas of life. I was just responding to another post that suggested that.

 

E! is running Season 2 & 3 episodes today (I work from home sometimes, don't judge!), and wow, Kim was much easier to look at then. Her face is so bloated and stiff now. She looks like her body is already starting to decompose. She was kind of fake back then (around the time of Khloe's DUI/jail situation) but her face still moved and was not entirely unpleasant. That was also the classic episode with "Kim, stop taking selfies, your sister is going to JAIL."

[Veronique Bette]

Like Kanye?   You must dress the way I say.   The temperature has to be kept a certain one.   Etc.    The man is a control freak with rage tendencies.    This is the only part I feel sorry for Kim.   Kanye completely controls her.   We don't know what goes on behind closed doors that makes her go along with it.    Domestic violence is not about the hitting, its about the control.

 

Yes, even with someone with her money and fame can be in an abusive relationship.   She might even be more trapped because people will say "Huh, she's got money, she got resources, why doesn't she get out?"    Well, the taking away your power and self-esteem so you think you CANNOT get out is all part of the abuse.

I disagree. In my opinion, Kim and Kanye’s relationship is a match made in Narcissism heaven. They are mirror images of each other who reflect admiration for one another as well as for themselves as individuals. Kim sees Kanye as a powerful, influential, multi-talented genius who can elevate her status, and egotistic Kanye sees kim as a universally desired, beautiful sex icon that he is able to claim as his wife. They were both savvy enough to know that as a couple they would draw even more attention, publicity, and recognition than they would have separately or with other partners. It’s what they thrive on and that’s exactly how it’s worked out…so far. I would call it more of a business arrangement than a love connection, but the point is that they’re both getting what they want and I doubt they’ve ever been happier in their lives. Kim is definitely influenced by Kanye but I don't think she's "forced" to follow his fashion advice any more than he was forced to trail along with her to Armenia. As for abuse, the only one getting abused by their relationship is the public, who constantly have these megalomaniacs shoved down their throats with magazine covers, paparazzi shots and never ending public appearances.

[iwasish]

I disagree. In my opinion, Kim and Kanye’s relationship is a match made in Narcissism heaven. They are mirror images of each other who reflect admiration for one another as well as for themselves as individuals. Kim sees Kanye as a powerful, influential, multi-talented genius who can elevate her status, and egotistic Kanye sees kim as a universally desired, beautiful sex icon that he is able to claim as his wife. They were both savvy enough to know that as a couple they would draw even more attention, publicity, and recognition than they would have separately or with other partners. It’s what they thrive on and that’s exactly how it’s worked out…so far. I would call it more of a business arrangement than a love connection, but the point is that they’re both getting what they want and I doubt they’ve ever been happier in their lives. Kim is definitely influenced by Kanye but I don't think she's "forced" to follow his fashion advice any more than he was forced to trail along with her to Armenia. As for abuse, the only one getting abused by their relationship is the public, who constantly have these megalomaniacs shoved down their throats with magazine covers, paparazzi shots and never ending public appearances.

well she did cry when he threw all her clothing out, but cheered up when it was all replaced by Prada and other expensive stuff. That's when the all black all the time ensembles began.

 

Her first hubby has said that he paid for all kinds of plastic surgery for her and then she dumped him I do think it was probably a case of she was too young. She hid the fact that she had married for several months until Kourtney and Kris sleuthed it out.  Her father refused to talk to her for months if not longer and only really came around when she told him she wanted to get a divorce.  He I believe hooked her up with a matrimonial lawyer and instead of going for irretrievable breakdown of the marriage, the abuse claims were tossed in. IMO, it was money related. 

[OakGoblinFly]

She looks good.

Kim Kardashian Goes 'Without Makeup' for Latest Vogue Shoot

 

 

 

I wish she would do her make-up like this more often - she looks very pretty .... and real!

[ginger90]

She looks good, but why the hand on her face? Is the focal point her ring? Just seems odd.

[Artsda]

I like this top on her, it's not all skin tight for once but actually looks like pregnancy wear.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3169461/Pregnant-Kim-Kardashian-opts-daring-low-cut-shops-Paris.html

 

[iwasish]

I wish she would do her make-up like this more often - she looks very pretty .... and real!

Yeah, the ring.. I barely noticed it.

[BitterApple]

Kim looks nice in that picture. Her arms aren't fat at all, why does she insist on wearing those long coats?

[howmanywords]

There's more shots of the Vogue shoot floating around I dont think shes wearing makeup.  Certainly not a "boatload" of makeup making the nude look.  She's been photographed by paparazzi without makeup and she has a nice look to her. Some women look horrid without makeup but Kim looks rather nice.  However there might be airbrushing involved even if just to take away any major glare there might be.

[BitterApple]

Kim looks ten years younger and a thousand times prettier with no/minimal makeup. She doesn't need all the heavy foundation and contouring. She actually looks human in these pictures.

[nexxie]

Great pictures - natural is a good look for Kim.

(Ditch Kanye as a stylist!)

[OakGoblinFly]

There's more shots of the Vogue shoot floating around I dont think shes wearing makeup.  Certainly not a "boatload" of makeup making the nude look.  She's been photographed by paparazzi without makeup and she has a nice look to her. Some women look horrid without makeup but Kim looks rather nice.  However there might be airbrushing involved even if just to take away any major glare there might be.

 

 

So pretty and fresh-faced .....why she insists on spackling on the make-up is beyond me.  Sure for red carpet events, but every day - nope.  She should go this route more often.

[Maya]

Why do I still feel like she's been photoshopped to within an inch of her life?

[hottesthw]

Why do I still feel like she's been photoshopped to within an inch of her life?

Because she has. Those girls all have major dark circles under their eyes without makeup (it must be hereditary). We've seen it on the show in rare glimpses. While she does have a more natural look in these photos, she's still made up.

[Kromm]

I wish she would do her make-up like this more often - she looks very pretty .... and real!

Given that she (via the magazine) isn't even ADMITTING it's still makeup, I doubt that's going to happen.

[Kromm]

I like this top on her, it's not all skin tight for once but actually looks like pregnancy wear.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3169461/Pregnant-Kim-Kardashian-opts-daring-low-cut-shops-Paris.html

 

The shoes are ludicrous for a pregnant woman, and the skirt looks like it's a lot more binding than it has to be, but it's not bad.  You CAN see (even with the mile high shoes) how short her legs are, which is a good reason why diaphanous skirts are a horrible idea. But the top seems pretty good.

 

I hope somewhere she's reading reactions to both that photoshoot and to outfits like this white one. While having LESS to make fun of Kim about probably kills some of the fun factor, it was really getting so that I was actually starting to feel sorry for her.  Maybe we can switch that up to mocking Kourtney for stuff like her ridiculous booby-pooping garment/device in that ESPN group shot.

[iwasish]

The shoes are ludicrous for a pregnant woman, and the skirt looks like it's a lot more binding than it has to be, but it's not bad. You CAN see (even with the mile high shoes) how short her legs are, which is a good reason why diaphanous skirts are a horrible idea. But the top seems pretty good.

I hope somewhere she's reading reactions to both that photoshoot and to outfits like this white one. While having LESS to make fun of Kim about probably kills some of the fun factor, it was really getting so that I was actually starting to feel sorry for her. Maybe we can switch that up to mocking Kourtney for stuff like her ridiculous booby-pooping garment/device in that ESPN group shot.

Kim's got months to go, I'm fairly certain it will all be downhill and snark worthy. For all her bitching Kim loves the press she gets, good or bad.

This woman never leaves her house without 10minutes in front of a multi angle mirror. She knows exactly how she looks, right down to the lumps and bumps on her ass.

Edited July 21, 2015 by iwasish

[GaT]

I can't even, nothing is off limits to this famewhore

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3170879/Pregnant-Kim-Kardashian-fire-Instagram-ad-plugging-prescription-morning-sickness-drug-pulled-shells-birth-defect-fears.html

[Crucial]

I can't even, nothing is off limits to this famewhore

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3170879/Pregnant-Kim-Kardashian-fire-Instagram-ad-plugging-prescription-morning-sickness-drug-pulled-shells-birth-defect-fears.html

Goes to show that if a paycheck is attached to a promotion, she doesn't care.  Don't do any research on a product you will endorse.  She's a dumbass plain and simple.  Check what your name is attached too.  But no, not this idiot.  I get money, put my name on it!!!

[biakbiak]

Or that woman on the internet, speaking of the detractors on her instagram, will judge women for making different choices than they do.

[Kromm]

Goes to show that if a paycheck is attached to a promotion, she doesn't care.  Don't do any research on a product you will endorse.  She's a dumbass plain and simple.  Check what your name is attached too.  But no, not this idiot.  I get money, put my name on it!!!

Of course she's stupid.  She allowed George Lopez to talk her into believing she's somehow magically 94% Armenian. And REPEATED that in interviews.  Really. when they passed out the brains, they skipped this girl.  I suppose she might actually thank Kris for pimping so hard for her for years. If Kim had always had to do it herself, she'd be nobody.

Edited July 25, 2015 by Kromm

[merylinkid]

I've said this before, this family will never be the elite they think they are as long as they strumpet themselves out like this.   The true elite are very careful what they associates themselves with (which is why the Duchess of Cambridge sent back the free Kardashian Kollection klothes).   This family will stick their name on everything and think that makes them elite.   

[Crucial]

If Kim had always had to do it herself, she'd be nobody.

 

This post is golden because it's the solid truth.  If there was no Kris, there would be no Kim.

[Coffeecup]

Because she has. Those girls all have major dark circles under their eyes without makeup (it must be hereditary). We've seen it on the show in rare glimpses. While she does have a more natural look in these photos, she's still made up.

Right, those pictures were all photoshopped. People in the industry have said many times that 100% of magazine photos are photoshopped. In her true natural state, she'd have the dark circles and more shadows and contours on her face. The face looks very flat due to the photo manipulation.

I agree that she looks good with minimal makeup.

[GaT]

This I love how she spells "you" as "u" in a Tweet about misspelling words.

[Magog]

 

 

From Crucial:

"If Kim had always had to do it herself, she'd be nobody."

"This post is golden because it's the solid truth.  If there was no Kris, there would be no Kim."

 

 

Even with Kris, Kim is still a nobody. She's just a nobody with a big ass & a sex tape and who is always in your face all the time.

 

From GaT:

"This I love how she spells "you" as "u" in a Tweet about misspelling words."

 

I can't stand Twitter & Kim is part of the reason why I hate it a lot, but why would the CEO of Twitter give this clown a minute of his time? If I need ideas & suggestions on how to improve my product, I sure as hell wouldn't take advice from Kim Kardashian. Its bad enough that the Daily Mail (A disgrace to journalism & to everyday life) is always gushing at her & praising her like she is something special and someone to look up to.

Edited July 25, 2015 by Magog

[JocelynCavanaugh]

"If Kim had always had to do it herself, she'd be nobody."

"This post is golden because it's the solid truth.  If there was no Kris, there would be no Kim."

 

 

Even with Kris, Kim is still a nobody. She's just a nobody with a big ass & a sex tape and who is always in your face all the time.

 

Kim may be a tacky ho with a sex tape, but you can't say she's a nobody. She's one of the most googled and photographed people on earth. She is rich and famous. She didn't do anything particularly admirable to get to that point, but it's more than "just" a sex tape. She does all kinds of basic bitch pop culture stuff and people are fascinated by her. Whatever she and Kris have done to get Kim to this point, they've done a great job and it's worked, far beyond what anyone would've predicted 10 years ago. Kim is bland, judgmental, ignorant, manipulative, and whiny, but she's turned her horrible personality and fucked up face and body into an empire. 

[iwasish]

I think the tide will slowly turn against her. 35 years old, the mother of two who can't take a photograph without making a face or a hand gesture or keep her tits covered.

Kris is already priming the stage for Kylie. The magic 18 is coming and the anticipation is there. Kris isn't going waste any time getting the big bucks for the first nude shots of Kylie. Kris can't wait to pop that cherry and bank that check.

Edited July 25, 2015 by iwasish

[Coffeecup]

From Crucial:

"If Kim had always had to do it herself, she'd be nobody."

"This post is golden because it's the solid truth.  If there was no Kris, there would be no Kim."

 

 

Even with Kris, Kim is still a nobody. She's just a nobody with a big ass & a sex tape and who is always in your face all the time.

 

From GaT:

"This I love how she spells "you" as "u" in a Tweet about misspelling words."

 

I can't stand Twitter & Kim is part of the reason why I hate it a lot, but why would the CEO of Twitter give this clown a minute of his time? If I need ideas & suggestions on how to improve my product, I sure as hell wouldn't take advice from Kim Kardashian. Its bad enough that the Daily Mail (A disgrace to journalism & to everyday life) is always gushing at her & praising her like she is something special and someone to look up to.

Isn't that incredible? Ordinary twitter users have been asking for an edit feature for a long time, and twitter management didn't care and ignored their requests. But let the famous Kim ask, and all of a sudden the CEO himself answers and says he might do it!

If the twitter CEO does give everybody an edit feature because of Kim's complaint, I'll have to admit that is very one good thing Kim accomplished.

[Kromm]

Kim may be a tacky ho with a sex tape, but you can't say she's a nobody. She's one of the most googled and photographed people on earth. She is rich and famous. She didn't do anything particularly admirable to get to that point, but it's more than "just" a sex tape. She does all kinds of basic bitch pop culture stuff and people are fascinated by her. Whatever she and Kris have done to get Kim to this point, they've done a great job and it's worked, far beyond what anyone would've predicted 10 years ago. Kim is bland, judgmental, ignorant, manipulative, and whiny, but she's turned her horrible personality and fucked up face and body into an empire. 

"Nobody" is the phrase I used if Kris hadn't done it all for her.  What she is now isn't "nobody", it's just a waste of space.

[JocelynCavanaugh]

"Nobody" is the phrase I used if Kris hadn't done it all for her. What she is now isn't "nobody", it's just a waste of space.

I was responding to someone else who said Kim is currently a nobody, which, sadly, is inaccurate.

[howmanywords]

Kim may be considered a joke by many but she has 33 million Twitter followers. Why wouldnt the Twitter bigwigs actually pay attention to someone with that much of a following there as opposed to their regular users? Of course a celebrity will have more clout with that sort of things, its why celebrities are paid a lot of money for endorsement deals.

[Crucial]

Kim may be considered a joke by many but she has 33 million Twitter followers. Why wouldnt the Twitter bigwigs actually pay attention to someone with that much of a following there as opposed to their regular users? Of course a celebrity will have more clout with that sort of things, its why celebrities are paid a lot of money for endorsement deals.

No denying she has twitter followers (or instagram).  I think the irritation comes from the fact that she's making it seem like it's her idea for it and so do the articles - then you get the Twitter CEO commenting to her about her idea.  Many, many people have already asked for the function long before her. At least say it was asked for before instead of reading things like "Kim has just changed Twitter for you".  It would be nice if they just mentioned it's been asked for by thousands and she is then taking up that cause to get this added.  Don't need edit, maybe just spell check.  Edit will help all those celebs who post some dumb things and then want to take it back (goes for all celebs).

Edited July 26, 2015 by Crucial

[BitterApple]

I just saw the most recent pics in the Daily Fail and Kim is so not pregnant. Her bump has changed sizes three times in the last week and looks like a rubber pillow strapped to her stomach. Spanx or no Spanx, your stomach doesn't go from completely flat to looking five months along in the course of a week. Everyone in the comments section was saying how obviously phony it looks.

Edited July 26, 2015 by BitterApple

[Kromm]

I just saw the most recent pics in the Daily Fail and Kim is so not pregnant. Her bump has changed sizes three times in the last week and looks like a rubber pillow strapped to her stomach. Spanx or no Spanx, your stomach doesn't go from completely flat to looking five months along in the course of a week. Everyone in the comments section was saying how obviously phony it looks.

I can't say I get it.

If this is all fake, how are they supposed to pull this off?

Kim doesn't have it in her to stay out of view of cameras and the public for the last 3 months or so, when a fake would be most easily spotted. Then if its a surrogate or an adoption, they have to hide all that successfully (for all time) too.

Do we really believe they believe they could pull something like that off? Kim may be that stupid, and Kanye arrogant enough, but they have handlers AROUND them who aren't that dumb.

[Lakewood27]

I just saw the most recent pics in the Daily Fail and Kim is so not pregnant. Her bump has changed sizes three times in the last week and looks like a rubber pillow strapped to her stomach. Spanx or no Spanx, your stomach doesn't go from completely flat to looking five months along in the course of a week. Everyone in the comments section was saying how obviously phony it looks.

 

Do I believe Kim is actually pregnant? Yes. Do I think she's wearing extra padding on different days, just to increase speculation? Yes, definitely. There are pix in the Daily Mail today, and I swear it won't be long before the ham feet return.

[Coffeecup]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3178117/Kim-Kardashian-puts-baby-bump-cleavage-display-squeezes-skintight-dress.html

 

Well I've never seen this before!  Kim is frowning in this set of DM photos. She actually has the "11" lines between her eyebrows. What happened? Did she give up Botox for her pregnancy?

 

She looked quite angry. Mad at the paps? Mad at those super-high heel shoes that must have been killing her feet? Or were her Spanx riding up?

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3178116/Kim-Kardashian-channels-female-icons-centuries-new-commercial-Hype-Energy-drink.html

DM also has a set of photos from Kim's new energy drink commercial. She's wigged, made up and dressed as Audrey Hepburn and Marie Antoinette, also as a character in a futuristic sci-fi space movie. The Audrey and Marie photos are pretty ridiculous because she has no resemblance to either of them. (Sorry I didn't include a photo because I have trouble getting the photo posting thing to work on this forum.)

 

For Audrey, they dressed Kim in a black turtleneck and black slacks, and put a wig on her with bangs and a ponytail. They showed her riding a bicycle.  Remember how Audrey Hepburn looked?  Tall, slender, small bust, small butt. Nothing whatsoever like short, dumpy Kim with her huge breasts and gigantic butt. There is no likeness in the facial features either.

 

As Marie Antoinette, Kim looked like Lady Gaga in one of her stage getups, just weird. High powdered wig, eyelashes and eyebrows powdered white, face powdered white, lips pale pink.  In historic paintings of Marie wearing her white wig,, she did not have her eyebrows and eyelashes powdered white; they were dark. So I can't figure out why the makeup artist wanted to make Kim look like an albino.

 

The space girl look worked better because they weren't trying to make Kim look like any specific person.

[GaT]

Here's the "film"

[Watermelon]

Oh. That's a terrible commercial.

[Lakewood27]

Kanye must have art directed this mess. It's awful.

[JocelynCavanaugh]

It's so slow and boring. I don't need to gaze at Kim's stupid torso or distorted face for that long.