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I think this show has finally sucked the life from me, because I got a smidge excited to see that Ridge & Taylor will share a kiss, which will be witnessed by Brooke. They're gross, Brooke is the only one I can stand, & that's marginal. The original triangle of doom is so played out, but at least it's something beyond Hope trying to give Liam to Steffy for the sake of family, & Ridge & Taylor encouraging Steffy to take him back, like Hope is a woman who should be making major life decisions right now, considering her frame-of-mind. But if their daughter can capitalize on it, eh well! I'm sure I'll hate the kiss storyline about :13 seconds after it starts, though. 

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1 hour ago, nkotb said:

I think this show has finally sucked the life from me, because I got a smidge excited to see that Ridge & Taylor will share a kiss, which will be witnessed by Brooke. They're gross, Brooke is the only one I can stand, & that's marginal. The original triangle of doom is so played out, but at least it's something beyond Hope trying to give Liam to Steffy for the sake of family, & Ridge & Taylor encouraging Steffy to take him back, like Hope is a woman who should be making major life decisions right now, considering her frame-of-mind. But if their daughter can capitalize on it, eh well! I'm sure I'll hate the kiss storyline about :13 seconds after it starts, though. 

Taylor can have Ridge's nasty ass.

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 nearly asked why they'd pull this now untilHuh. Well, now.

https://celebratingthesoaps.com/bold-and-the-beautiful/bold-and-the-beautiful-rumor-thomas-reveals-douglas-isnt-his-son/

Assuming this ends up being true, I nearly ask why they'd pull this years after the fact, until I realize changing the paternity forever "frees" him from Caroline and back to Sally, while possibly generating conflict with Bridge.

This one lands smack into "At least it's not about Phobeth" territory for me.

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44 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

 nearly asked why they'd pull this now untilHuh. Well, now.

https://celebratingthesoaps.com/bold-and-the-beautiful/bold-and-the-beautiful-rumor-thomas-reveals-douglas-isnt-his-son/

Assuming this ends up being true, I nearly ask why they'd pull this years after the fact, until I realize changing the paternity forever "frees" him from Caroline and back to Sally, while possibly generating conflict with Bridge.

This one lands smack into "At least it's not about Phobeth" territory for me.

But unless, they recast Caroline, there isn't going to much story with Douglas to provide that type of conflict with Bridge.

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I would be OK with Caro-lyin' coming back -- maybe.  If that's the case, then I'd be down with:

Brooke/Bill
Thomas/Sally
Wyatt/Katie reunited and Bill having nothing to say about it

I would pay good money to see a Taylor/Sludge/Caroline triangle. That would be comedy gold, especially with LG* back on the cast.  Watching her face-off with HTy would be priceless and would make for an excellent summertime SL. 

*I have no idea what LG is up to these days. Is she on a different soap?

Well, I will dream on.  Otherwise, I hate this forcing of Batie 3.0. Katie has acknowledged that it's not a good idea. Bill doesn't seem interested and understands that Katie isn't interested in him "like that" any longer.  Bill was also on the money when he (correctly) stated that since Katie is fresh on the heels of being dumped by Thorne, that she probably needs some time alone.

Donna's vapid "three time's the charm," is just ridiculous. Speaking of, she certainly wasn't a shrinking violet around Justin today, was she? How about Donna worrying about her own love life instead of sticking her nose into Katie's? Speaking of ... whatever became of trying to get her back together with Eric?

I sort of understand where Hope is coming from, BUT, color me shocked to see Steffy put her foot down over this nonsense that Liam needs to be under the same roof with Steffy, Phobeth and Kelly 24/7/365. Think about situations where one parent might be deployed or incarcerated or working abroad while their child is an infant/toddler. There are so many ways now to keep in touch long distance. I don't think the kids are going to suffer from not having daddy (or mommy) present during their every waking moment.  Lots of kids survive that and much worse. YMMV.

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This new resolve with Steffy has me wondering if JMW and/or SC put their foot down on yet another Steam reunion and doing the same ol' song and dance they've been doing since 2011. Because this whole Steffy leaving them alone AND standing up to Taylor for this long makes me wonder if she really has turned over a new leaf.

And if that's the case, she really ought to have a new, non Spencer love interest. My vote would be Eric III but maybe Deacon could work too. Or even Xander if he's gonna stick around. Let her truly break the cycle that her mother and Brooke never did.

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When JMV comes back from maternity leave after who knows how many months, she should return back with a rich European husband who will be acting as daddy to the girls instead of Liam.

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3 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

So I'm coming across spoilers indicating the reason Thomas returns with Douglas, sans Caroline, is that they're killing her off. 

So I guess Bill's big little lie is coming true after all.

I've come across those spoilers too. Seems a bit shortsighted but hey, this show is good at that. 🤷‍♀️

Yeah Bill, ya never should have put that lie out there, dude.

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On 1/16/2019 at 7:44 AM, Aymery said:

I still think Ingo R would've worked as a Nick Marone recast - along with his son Jack, aged up to his teens and becoming the source of a more logical tug-of-war between his mothers, Taylor and Brooke. Nick would fit the bill perfectly since he also has a brotherly rivalry with Ridge and pre-existing relationships with both Brooke and Katie (and that would've saved Thorne from turning into the latest guy who's bedded all three Logan sisters).

What man hasn't been with Brooke?  

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58 minutes ago, Wollstonecraft said:

What man hasn't been with Brooke?  

Only Wyatt, Liam, & Justin that I can think of. I hate to even say that, because I'm sure that the B&B interloper on our board will see that & say "challenge accepted."

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14 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

So I'm coming across spoilers indicating the reason Thomas returns with Douglas, sans Caroline, is that they're killing her off. 

So I guess Bill's big little lie is coming true after all.

Well that sucks if true. It took the show a while to find a niche for Caroline, but once she became the vapid valley girl, LG became a whole lotta fun to watch 

Like Bridget, the show came to an impass with her once she'd been with all the (very few) available men. Which were pretty much all Forrester. Unless TPTB want to have Thorne go after yet another one of Ridge's leftovers, there's nowhere for her to go*.

*in Brad's mind because women have no value unless tied to a man on this show. 😐

It will be interesting to see this new version of Thomas. It took the show far too long to find an identity between "cardboard cutout" and "complete creep" but I can be down for reformed Playboy looking to be the father he supposedly never had (complete bs but that's the story they've pitched since TK was cast, so...). I also won't be overly sad if Wally ends. Kinda wondering if the spoiler for them will be Flo (with Wyatt finally the apex of a triangle after six years and neither with ties to Liam) or Thomas.

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I haven't watched the show since the baby drama started (I loathe that storyline in all forms and mediums), but Thomas coming back may be enough to bring me back.  I loved him, and REALLY loved him and Sally.  I feel somewhat guilty, however, because Wyatt always gets the short end of the stick, usually because of his stick-in-the-mud brother.  Any other Thomas spoilers to share outside of Douglas?

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7 hours ago, Kymmi said:

I haven't watched the show since the baby drama started (I loathe that storyline in all forms and mediums), but Thomas coming back may be enough to bring me back.  I loved him, and REALLY loved him and Sally.  I feel somewhat guilty, however, because Wyatt always gets the short end of the stick, usually because of his stick-in-the-mud brother.  Any other Thomas spoilers to share outside of Douglas?

As some have pointed out, Wyatt's ex is also in town, one that he left on fairly good terms. So we may get to see if Wyatt gets his shot to be a Bell Boy* after all.

*A termed coined in honor of all the waffling men produced on this ridiculous show 😂

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On 3/10/2019 at 11:37 PM, Anna Yolei said:

Well he should, but that egg needs to go on Steffy's face, too and she and Thomas better have it out as well, is all I'm saying.

She never has to answer for anything Princess Steffy must be defended at all costs. 

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This week's spoilers

B&B spoilers for the week of March 18:

In the latest Deconstructing B&B, Caroline’s death stirs up a lot of emotions, while Bill and Katie are tough to invest in.

B&B spoilers for Monday March 18:

Ridge and Taylor are glad to have Thomas home as Steffy prepares to leave town.

Hope makes a point of connecting with Douglas.

Going... Jacqueline MacInnes Wood exits B&B for her maternity leave.

B&B spoilers for Tuesday March 19:

When the Forresters, Spencers, and Logans gather together to honor a loved one, Taylor and Thomas realize Hope is forming a bond with Douglas.

B&B spoilers for Wednesday March 20:

Katie and Bill are set up again and realize they're enjoying the 'accidental' meetings.

Taylor kisses Ridge while reliving a moment from her past, but Brooke is watching.

B&B spoilers for Thursday March 21:

Bold and the Beautiful is pre-empted for March Madness basketball on CBS.

B&B spoilers for Friday March 22:

B&B is pre-empted for March Madness basketball on CBS.

More Bold and the Beautiful spoilers...

Brooke confronts Taylor after seeing her kiss Ridge and their sparring turns physical. Ridge later reassures Brooke there's no need for concern.

The Forresters and Spencer families deal with news of Caroline's death in New York.

Katie begins to see Bill as the man she first fell in love with.

Liam and Wyatt are asked for a favor by Thomas.

Thomas and Sally make amends.

Coming up on Bold and the Beautiful:

Brooke accuses Taylor of still being in love with Ridge.

Hope and Thomas revisit their past and find comfort in each other.

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B&B spoilers for Monday March 25:

Taylor confirms she has an ulterior motive while arguing with Brooke.

Hope is stunned by Thomas' revelation about his relationship with Caroline.

B&B spoilers for Tuesday March 26:

Ridge breaks up the argument between Taylor and Brooke.

Wyatt asks Liam some tough questions.

B&B spoilers for Wednesday March 27:

Ridge asks Sally to stay on at Forrester Creations after seeing her athletic line.

Flo is moved at Quinn's welcome and Wyatt's request.

B&B spoilers for Thursday March 28:

Wyatt makes Quinn apologize to Sally.

Sally takes Wyatt off guard with the news she is reconsidering her move to Spencer Publications.

B&B spoilers for Friday March 29:

Katie and Bill find themselves set up on a date again, and share a romantic meal as Tamar Braxton joins B&B as Chef Chambre.

Brooke's irritated to learn what Taylor has in mind for their children.

More Bold and the Beautiful spoilers...

Sally's left unhappy when Quinn gushes over Flo and even feels disrespected. Sally's torn about what to do regarding her design future after receiving the offer from Forrester Creations.

Brooke confronts Ridge about his kiss with Taylor and he explains that Taylor kissed him and it meant nothing.

Brooke accuses Taylor of still being in love with Ridge.

Hope and Thomas revisit their past and find comfort in each other.

Coming up on Bold and the Beautiful...

Brooke feels Taylor is using Steffy to exact revenge on her due to their history.

Katie and Bill try to find out who is playing matchmaker for them.

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1 hour ago, ByTor said:

Brooke feels Taylor is using Steffy to exact revenge on her due to their history.

In other news, water is wet 😄

I knew that ten years ago 😂

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For the week of April 1...

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for the week of April 1:

In the latest Deconstructing B&B, Flo’s paternity is in question, triangles galore, and a Batie reunion?

B&B spoilers for Monday April 1:

Bill and Katie want to find out who has been playing cupid for them.

Brooke believes Taylor is continuing their long-running rivalry using Hope and Steffy.

B&B spoilers for Tuesday April 2:

Ridge irks Brooke when he refuses to blame Taylor for wanting what's best for Steffy.

Katie and Bill are amused to discover the identity of their cupid.

B&B spoilers for Wednesday April 3:

Brooke goes to Liam with regard to Taylor's wishes and makes a secret deal with him.

Sally disagrees with Quinn on Wyatt's intentions.

B&B spoilers for Thursday April 4:

Wyatt supports Flo as she places a call to her mother, Shauna, and asks about her past, as Denise Richards joins B&B as Florence's single mom from Vegas.

Thomas feels a connection with Hope while watching her with Douglas.

B&B spoilers for Friday April 5:

Shauna and Quinn recall their past and believe their children belong together.

Wyatt and Flo find similarities in the situations involving their fathers.

Spring casting... B&B’s seeking blonde babies for an upcoming role.

More Bold and the Beautiful spoilers...

Hope continues to grow closer with Douglas.

Thomas reconnects with his dad.

Will is behind the set-ups for Katie and Bill.

Liam isn't as concerned as Brooke about Taylor's hopes that Thomas and Hope might get together.

Quinn reconnects with her former best friend, Shauna, from Las Vegas. Together they raised their kids, Wyatt and Flo, and both believe their children should end up together. Quinn will act to make that happen and a bit of the 'old' Quinn may come out.

Coming up on Bold and the Beautiful...

Quinn's curious why Shauna doesn't want to reveal Flo's father's identity.

Zoe keeps finding Flo with Hope.

Just now, ByTor said:

Will is behind the set-ups for Katie and Bill.

Shocking, I tell you!

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5 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

Hello, what's this about a possible past romance between Liam and Little Eric coming to light?! 👀

My dream has come true!

I for one am just glad it's not another new intern. Yes, and while he's here, Eric II can chew the Forrester out for forgetting about him when it was no longer convenient.

Huh?  That link Rickrolled me 

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Good grief this is just like when Liam arrived on the scene going around town 'Are you my dad?' to Ridge and Thorne until finally he was awarded to Bill.

Although it makes sense that if Quinn and Shauna were besties, they hung in the same crowds which included Bill and Shauna wanted a piece of the Stallion despite knowing Quinn was hung up on him.

Bill had to be riddled with STIs as he was unwrapped it with a whole lotta women back then. Yeesh.

I do like the joke of Bill now being the prime suspect of fathering all illegitimate kids that come to L.A.

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Spoilers!

Bold and the Beautiful spoilers for the week of April 8:

In the latest Deconstructing B&B, Flo’s paternity is the flavor of the month, taking or leaving the Batie reunion, and Thomas is already repeating himself.

B&B spoilers for Monday April 8:

Shauna reveals a previously unknown connection with Quinn, taking her off guard.

Flo's words and actions take Wyatt by surprise.

B&B spoilers for Tuesday April 9:

Quinn presses Bill for information.

Bill hurls an accusation at Shauna.

Hope tells Flo that Donna also gave up a baby for adoption as she introduces them.

B&B spoilers for Wednesday April 10:

Flo's conscience bothers her as Hope insists they become friends.

Wyatt tells Quinn, Shauna, and Bill a secret about Flo.

B&B spoilers for Thursday April 11:

Hope interrupts Flo as she tries to tell her the truth about Beth.

Flo's secret comes out, forever changing the Spencer, Logan and Forrester families.

B&B spoilers for Friday April 12:

Bill can't keep his mind on work as he thinks about Shauna and Flo.

More Bold and the Beautiful spoilers...

Quinn's curious why Shauna doesn't want to reveal Flo's father's identity.

Zoe keeps finding Flo with Hope.

Shauna reveals that Bill could be Flo's father because they had a one-night stand, but she isn't certain since she slept around. Wyatt is distraught to learn that Flo might be his half-sister.

Coming up on Bold and the Beautiful...

Bill learns Flo is Phoebe's birth mother.

Shauna's reaction to the news that her daughter was pregnant sends Flo into a panic.

Casting news! Miss Universe Puerto Rico 2010 Mariana Vicente to guest star on B&B. B&B’s seeking blonde babies for an upcoming role.  Donna might be offscreen for a while as Jennifer Gareis is on Spring Break from B&B.

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Lots of soapy drama ahead. 

I guess Bill learning Flo was Phoebe's birth mother means no resolution for Hope anytime soon. That's about all that I look for when I read spoilers. Sigh...

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13 minutes ago, Petunia13 said:

That’s gonna be Flo and Wyatt’s baby she gave up for adoption. 

Unless it is for some flashback or Wyatt hooked up with Flo recently, it can't be their kid as Wyatt first showed up about 6 years ago.

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7 hours ago, Petunia13 said:
7 hours ago, nilyank said:

Unless it is for some flashback or Wyatt hooked up with Flo recently, it can't be their kid as Wyatt first showed up about 6 years ago.

Good point. 

Oh, I thought you meant it would be a flashback.  Since it's an "upcoming role" I guess it can't be Beth. I'm betting it's for baby Flo flashbacks for her paternity storyline.

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5 minutes ago, CountryGirl said:

The blonde babies are supposed to be six months' old and I'd say they are ageing (slightly) Phoebeth when Steffy returns from Paris (aka Jacqui returns from maternity leave).

That's what I originally thought, but the "upcoming role" thing got me thinking.

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Storm is actually not a bad choice. Deacon would've really only tied her to Hope. Storm ties her to Katie, Brooke, Donna, all the crew. The PhoeBeth reveal will be even more devastating. 

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Spoilers....

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for the week of April 15:

In the latest Deconstructing B&B, Storm as Flo’s father offered cool twists, but big coincidences, while further complicating a love triangle.

B&B spoilers for Monday April 15:

Flo's world is changed forever after she learns the identity of her father.

Quinn wants more details on Bill and Shauna's hook-up in Vegas.

With Flo's paternity reveal, we're taking a look at Storm Logan’s history on B&B.

B&B spoilers for Tuesday April 16:

When Hope mentions Phoebe, Flo asks a bewildered Shauna to play along.

Bill realizes why Quinn is so hard on Wyatt's women.

B&B spoilers for Wednesday April 17:

Shauna flips after hearing about the baby switch from her daughter.

Hope and Liam wonder when to tell Steffy about Flo's father.

Spring casting... B&B’s seeking blonde babies for an upcoming role.

Donna might be offscreen for a while as Jennifer Gareis is on Spring Break from Bold and Beautiful.

B&B spoilers for Thursday April 18:

Thomas' revelation about his feelings for Hope takes Ridge off guard.

Liam believes the love he and Hope share can help overcome her sadness.

B&B spoilers for Friday April 19:

Sally and Wyatt comfort Liam and he asks them for advice.

Thomas thinks Hope should encourage Liam to visit Steffy and the girls in Paris.

More Bold and Beautiful spoilers...

Bill learns Flo is Phoebe's birth mother.

Shauna's reaction when Hope reveals that her daughter, Flo, was pregnant sends Flo into a panic.

Flo and Shauna have a heart-to-heart about why Shauna kept her father's identity a secret, and Flo then opens up about her role in Reese's baby switch.

Coming up on Bold and Beautiful...

Liam plans a romantic evening for Hope.

Thomas wants to help revitalize Hope for the Future.

- Candace Young

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17 hours ago, ByTor said:

Thomas' revelation about his feelings for Hope takes Ridge off guard.

Gee, well that was fast. Didn't this actor come onboard like last month?

I wonder will Ridge give a self-righteous and hypocritical lecture about respecting marriage or encourage his son to say the hell with it and go for Hope now that there's no baby involved but the grandson Ridge tried to keep from Thomas to hold his own marriage together. 🤔

17 hours ago, ByTor said:

Thomas thinks Hope should encourage Liam to visit Steffy and the girls in Paris.

Oh no....dude no.

Thomas, you are better than this kind of sideways crap. Didn't you try to kill Rick over this kind of manipulation? 

He made so much growth as a human between Sasha and Sally and I don't want this trash. 😞

(And if you have to go up for a married man's wife...it's Liam Spencer, FFS, who spent all of 2016 mewling over Steffy and Wyatt and depended on Ridge to go after Quinn until Ridge's own dick got in the way of that. He'd probably just hand over the keys to the house as he spends the night at the No Tell Motel if you ask real nicely 🤣 )

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IKR giving a grieving and openly depressed woman bad relationship advice to get closer to her is predatory. 

I don’t really like seeing a borderline suicidal woman get manipulated but that’s just me. 

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I joke, but I gotta say Brad Bell is incredibly tone deaf to go there yet again with Thomas. He was a pushy creep in every single iteration of the role. The relationship he had with Sally was the only one in the entire history of the character that was actually healthy and now that's apparently been erased.

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Spoilers...

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for the week of April 22:

In the latest Deconstructing B&B, it’s become the Flo and Shauna show, while Thomas’ focus on Hope is ridiculous.

B&B spoilers for Monday April 22:

Liam plans a romantic dinner for Hope.

Thomas moves forward with his plan to win over Hope.

B&B spoilers for Tuesday April 23:

After spying Sally with Thomas, Quinn questions her loyalty to Wyatt.

Liam and Hope make love for the first time since losing Beth.

B&B spoilers for Wednesday April 24:

Thomas gets help as he plots to separate Liam and Hope as Nicola Posener returns to Bold and Beautiful as Amelia.

Quinn takes Sally off guard and the two argue over Wyatt and Sally's living arrangements.

B&B spoilers for Thursday April 25:

Zoe is unable to hide her reaction when Brooke mentions the identity of Flo's father.

After taking an emotional hit from Katie, Bill encounters Shauna at Il Giardino.

B&B spoilers for Friday April 26:

Brooke and Donna learn that Katie told Bill 'no' and urge her to give him another chance.

Flo and Zoe clash as Flo prepares to tell Hope the truth about her baby.

More Bold and Beautiful spoilers...

Wyatt initially shrugs it off when Quinn tells him she saw Sally hug Thomas, but is taken aback when he later learns they've been texting one another as well.

Thomas thinks he, Hope and Douglas would make a perfect family and uses a drawing to manipulate Hope's emotions. He claims that Douglas made the heartfelt drawing but he made it himself. Later, he has Steffy's nanny set up a video chat so Hope can see the girls and play on her guilty feelings about keeping Liam from them. Thomas believes Liam should be with his sister.

Thomas wants to help revitalize Hope for the Future.

Shauna intervenes, with a gun, as Zoe's argument with Flo turns physical.

Katie spots Bill with Shauna at Il Giardino.

Coming up on Bold and Beautiful...

Flo receives an offer from Hope.

Xander makes his girlfriend a promise.

Sally lends Thomas an ear.

Bold and Beautiful spring casting...

Donna might be offscreen for a while as Jennifer Gareis is on Spring Break from Bold and Beautiful.

- Candace Young

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Shauna intervenes, with a gun, as Zoe's argument with Flo turns physical.

Are you kidding me?

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1 hour ago, ByTor said:

Thomas thinks he, Hope and Douglas would make a perfect family and uses a drawing to manipulate Hope's emotions. He claims that Douglas made the heartfelt drawing but he made it himself. Later, he has Steffy's nanny set up a video chat so Hope can see the girls and play on her guilty feelings about keeping Liam from them. Thomas believes Liam should be with his sister.

Thomas is disgusting and pathetic. He truly his parent's child. He also apparently has zero game if he is forced to fake children drawings to win a girl.

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