The Spoiler Collection

[TobinAlbers]

24 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

This fucking show

*facepalm*

ETA: I didn't even see the part about Steffy stumbling, because of course she does. There were spoilers last month about an emergency delivery in June. Just...whatever. make it end already.

I don't get why they keep repeating themselves. Hope took a 'tumble' (down the stairs) and lost her baby too. Are they really replaying that beat again?

Will Bill be the one to scoop her up and carry her to the hospital like Liam did Hope?

[jenrising]

3 hours ago, TobinAlbers said:

I don't get why they keep repeating themselves. Hope took a 'tumble' (down the stairs) and lost her baby too. Are they really replaying that beat again?

Will Bill be the one to scoop her up and carry her to the hospital like Liam did Hope?

I'll take it if she soon after twirls off and disappears for a long, long time like Hope did. 

[nilyank]

I imagine that Steffy will fight with Bill and the she falls. He will rush her to the hospital and somehow be there where Steffy gives birth. And somehow Liam will miss the birth of his child.

[RedRockRosie]

27 minutes ago, nilyank said:

I imagine that Steffy will fight with Bill and the she falls. He will rush her to the hospital and somehow be there where Steffy gives birth. And somehow Liam will miss the birth of his child.

And shortly after that they will discover that (*surprise*surprise*) Our Baby Girl Baby Kelly is really $Bill's spawn....for  now anyway.

[TobinAlbers]

29 minutes ago, RedRockRosie said:

And shortly after that they will discover that (*surprise*surprise*) Our Baby Girl Baby Kelly is really $Bill's spawn....for  now anyway.

Which will make Liam gave a case of baby rabies and push Hope to start trying for a baby when she learns that due to complications from her previous miscarriage ....gasp...she can't! 

[Cindylou]

THAT "Our precious baby girl" better be Bills!!!!

[ByTor]

A Hope & Liam wedding not going through is hardly what I would call a spoiler!

[CharlizeCat]

GROAN ... I just read a spoiler that CH is going to start filming in a few weeks. And guess what? Drum roll ... "Sally is coming back to reclaim what is rightfully hers -- LIAM'S HEART!"

With all due respect to SC, why does that passive, slack-jawed beady-eyed waffling wimp Liam need THREE women throwing themselves at and fighting over him?  SC does so well when given even an iota of decent material to work with and now he's right back to the darting eyes and blank expressions while he tries to decide who has his love and favor at the moment. Tiresome.

You know, if I were CH and knew what was in store for me in returning*, I might have had second thoughts. Don't get me wrong, I love me some Sally, but both the character and actress deserve better than to be thrown into what? Quadrangle of doom? Square of doom? Rectangle of doom? 

*Obviously, whatever carrots Brad Bell dangles don't pan out, look how things have turned out for the new guy who plays Thorne.

Instead of handing over hefty paychecks to these random people from sister CBS shows or one-hit wonders from other programs, why not invest in some contract men who are of appropriate age for Steffy, Hope and Sally? I am not keen on a Thorne-Hope or Thorne-Sally pairing. I tired of these May-December hookups. The last time the role was reversed was Jackie M. and Owen, and that was reduced to a "cougar" parody, which was ridiculous and borderline sexual harassment. I guess Katie and Wyatt could qualify but I don't see that great a difference in their ages; unlike Caridge (barf!), Swill (gross ...) or Queric (acceptable but still decades difference in ages between them.)

[Anna Yolei]

On 5/24/2018 at 7:22 AM, ByTor said:

A Hope & Liam wedding not going through is hardly what I would call a spoiler!

 

[Anna Yolei]

30 minutes ago, CharlizeCat said:

GROAN ... I just read a spoiler that CH is going to start filming in a few weeks. And guess what? Drum roll ... "Sally is coming back to reclaim what is rightfully hers -- LIAM'S HEART!"

With all due respect to SC, why does that passive, slack-jawed beady-eyed waffling wimp Liam need THREE women throwing themselves at and fighting over him?  SC does so well when given even an iota of decent material to work with and now he's right back to the darting eyes and blank expressions while he tries to decide who has his love and favor at the moment. Tiresome.

At least there was a minimal spark with CH. Scott Clifton has never had "it" with most of the women he's been paired with, JMW least of all.

And while I do joke about putting the women together and forgetting about the dudes (Brooke/Taylor, anyone? ;), A Hally pairing would actually be quite entertaining. They're both designers and both outcasts, having been shat on by Steffy. Aly looked up to Hope for better or worse, so perhaps she could share stories about her.

Plus, it'd be a laugh to see a scene of them comparing if Thomas or Liam is the better kisser ? And with the history the Logan family has had of being willing to open their arms, it seems right that Brooke would have at least one kid on the LGBTQAI spectrum (I would also accept RJ for Ridge's head to explode, but oh well).

But seriously, I do not want another awesome woman being wasted on this lame excuse of a waffle. Ivy went full on Nick N. Sane over his ass. We don't need a revisit on that. Hope/Sally can be this generation's Thorne and Macy.

42 minutes ago, CharlizeCat said:

Instead of handing over hefty paychecks to these random people from sister CBS shows or one-hit wonders from other programs, why not invest in some contract men who are of appropriate age for Steffy, Hope and Sally?

There is that British Avant cousin coming aboard soon, no?

[ByTor]

58 minutes ago, CharlizeCat said:

GROAN ... I just read a spoiler that CH is going to start filming in a few weeks. And guess what? Drum roll ... "Sally is coming back to reclaim what is rightfully hers -- LIAM'S HEART!"

Spare me.  I find it hard to believe ONE woman would want that idiot, let alone three.

[TobinAlbers]

Of course when Steffy finally slams a door in Bill's face she trips!

Apparently she does deliver early, Liam is there, and Steffy tells him she fell when Bill visited.

Are we getting who shot Bill 2.0?

And Lope not marrying makes sense with Sally returning...

[CharlizeCat]

5 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

 

There is that British Avant cousin coming aboard soon, no?

True. TBH, I didn't pay much attention the announcement or his photo (just busy with other stuff that week) but to me, he looked really young, like in the RJ, Coco range. Am I wrong? If he is age-appropriate, and the guy can act, I say throw him Sally's way. At least we'd have one decent couple to root for. However, I love the idea of Sally/Hope. Hope's mainly low-key passive behavior (and the actresses's lack of skill) might be a good opposites attract thing with Sally's more outgoing strong personality.  I could see CH elevating the other woman's skill level if they worked together a lot and were comfortable.

Still ... my dream couple is Bilidge (-rant.) 

[Anna Yolei]

1 hour ago, CharlizeCat said:

Still ... my dream couple is Bilidge (-rant.) 

If Ronn Moss were still in the role, I'd be down for that!

[CharlizeCat]

DAH-yum! Yes! They'd make a fine looking pair, but DD/TK would have that beauty and the best vibe going.  I could always see them making up and breaking up. It would be a very intense relationship. Oh, well ... we can dream on. 

[Gam2]

So Wyatt waits until the actual wedding to find his conscience to tell his brother the truth? I have no words. 

[Anna Yolei]

On 5/25/2018 at 5:08 PM, Gam2 said:

So Wyatt waits until the actual wedding to find his conscience to tell his brother the truth? I have no words. 

Liam waited till the actual wedding to tell Hope that he didn't sign annulment papers once. 

Karma is a real bitch. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But seriously, it's so hard for me to feel that sorry for Lame when he was already waffling. If he's so sure Hope is what it wants, what difference does it make?

Edited May 27, 2018 by Anna Yolei

[ByTor]

8 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

If he's so sure Hope is what it wants, what difference does it make?

Which, as much as it pains me to say, means I agree with Taylor & Ridge.  I'm scared!

[CharlizeCat]

I hear ya! Hope and Liam are fools to rush into marriage so fast and frankly, shame on Brooke for pushing so hard to fast-track the nuptials.  However, it still has warmed my cold still-beating heart these past few weeks watching Hauxdi squirm, grovel and being miserable. It's been a L-O-N-G time in the making.

A bonus really would be if through all of this, Tridge found their way back to one another and left!

[politichick]

On 5/25/2018 at 11:58 AM, Anna Yolei said:

At least there was a minimal spark with CH. Scott Clifton has never had "it" with most of the women he's been paired with, JMW least of all.

And while I do joke about putting the women together and forgetting about the dudes (Brooke/Taylor, anyone? ;), A Hally pairing would actually be quite entertaining. They're both designers and both outcasts, having been shat on by Steffy. Aly looked up to Hope for better or worse, so perhaps she could share stories about her.

Plus, it'd be a laugh to see a scene of them comparing if Thomas or Liam is the better kisser ? And with the history the Logan family has had of being willing to open their arms, it seems right that Brooke would have at least one kid on the LGBTQAI spectrum (I would also accept RJ for Ridge's head to explode, but oh well).

But seriously, I do not want another awesome woman being wasted on this lame excuse of a waffle. Ivy went full on Nick N. Sane over his ass. We don't need a revisit on that. Hope/Sally can be this generation's Thorne and Macy.

There is that British Avant cousin coming aboard soon, no?

Yeah, there is, but why can't we get a new Thomas for Sally? Who cares about the Avants?

[Gam2]

Oh Dear God. Sally is coming back to claim Liam?! What happened to her hot romance with Thomas?! This just gets dumber and dumber. And dumber. Just when we think these writers have hit rock bottom, they prove us wrong in spades. 

[TobinAlbers]

I do find it very odd that this show is literally putting all their eggs in the Liam leading man basket. Not the that the show wouldn't do instaromance with a new leading man and Hope is SC took a powder and tried his luck as a Brady or Kiriakis over on DAYS. I would howl is he took over DB's role of Max Brady. 

Regarding Sally, I'm heard rumors that her story is more with the new interns and Thorne/Katie/Wyatt so I'm hoping she only sees Liam as a friend that she mistook for something more and keeps to romancing the lovelorn Thorne who starts as a mentor and becomes something more...

[Anna Yolei]

I'm so over May/December romances. I hope she gets together with Wyatt.

[TobinAlbers]

8 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

I'm so over May/December romances. I hope she gets together with Wyatt.

Awwww Thorne's more like an October than a December. And if Ridge could get his Caroline on then why not Thorne.

Although I could also see them making Sally Thorne's replacement daughter. Red hair like Aly and Spectra roots and design desires in her heart. Macy in a coma could've birthed a kid that Sally 1.0 gave to Shirley's daughter to take care of but Shirley's daughter shirked the responsibility. 

The more you think about it, the more sense it makes to root Sally more firmly by having her also be a Forrester and thus take Aly's place as Steffy's in-family rival. They could even start it with Thorne being drawn to her, wanting to mentor her and backroll Sally's new fashion ventures. She's bonding with him too. Shirley's freaking out because she thinks they're gonna bone and she finally reveals the truth - Sally is Thorne's daughter by Macy who was in a coma.  Twist! Macy is still alive but in a coma and fading fast and so Shirley takes Sally and Thorne to Macy's bedside to say good-bye. Twist! Macy rallies and awakens to her daughter and Thorne and tells them she loves them and then dies. This bonds Thorne and Sally. Or Macy doesn't die and Thorne dedicates himself to her recovery. Macy is happy for their 3rd/4th chance at love and a family but she's also secretly working her revenge agenda against the Forresters, Bill, AND Brooke using Sally as her tool.

If they can bring Taylor back, darnit we can have Macy!

[Anna Yolei]

50 minutes ago, TobinAlbers said:

And if Ridge could get his Caroline on then why not Thorne.

I didn't even want that crap! LOL :p

[TobinAlbers]

15 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

I didn't even want that crap! LOL :p

Honestly, I think that was nuRidge's best pairing but they blew it. They really could've done some deep work with Caroline 2.0 suddenly finding herself battling cancer and Ridge not only has to deal with the irony of his young wife possibly dying before him, but this being the same situation with Caroline 1.0 and this 'happening again' and possibly losing his wife and becoming a single dad but also having to deal with his inability to face his mother's death and burying himself in Europe and leaving Eric and Brooke to deal with it all. Chickens coming home to roost. Ridge would've been facing all kinds of demons in a story like that. Then when Caroline recovers, maybe she has a new outlook on life that has her leaving Ridge anyway!

[nkotb]

I have to admit, I was all in for CaRidge. I didn't think I'd like them, but it actually felt organic, & not insta-love like we see now. It was a slower burn than we're used to these days. It sucked when they split them up, & Ridge was immediately back in love with Brooke, then immediately after getting with Brooke, cheating with Quinn (kissing is cheating in my book), just.like.that. - insert finger-snap. Ridiculous. 

On topic, ugh, I can't even tolerate Sally being thrown into the square of doom. If I understood what it was about Liam that was so awesome, I might get it. Probably soap's best triangle ever was GH's Sonny/Brenda/Jax. Take note, writers, the woman was at the center. Anyway, I totally got why these 2 powerful, successful men, were into her; she was everything, she lit up a room, she was fierce, she was fun, & she just had it. Both men were also worthy competitors; Sonny, then, definitely not now, was mysterious, & dangerous, & those dimples. Plus, he was really her first big love. Again, now, he's gross & has that Carly-cooties, but then, *swoon*. Jax, on the other hand, was powerful, & rich, & spoiled her, & was crazy in love with her, & not shy about it. I completely understood why she was in love with each of them.

This TOD, soon to be SOD, if spoilers are correct, doesn't really have any rootable characers. Just another side-note, B&B writers, you have "Jax" in your cast, & he's completely underused. Now, don't put him in a triangle, but he could so be the leading man, alongside $Bill. They're both suave, charming, gorgeous & have something rootable about them (I'll stand proud that I love $Bill, even though that's not the most popular opinion lately). Leave Sally with Thomas & get "Jax" front & center!

[CountryGirl]

Hard pass to Sally returning to turn the ToD into the Q (Quadrangle) of Doom because CH and the character deserve better. I'd rather have her offscreen and living happily ever after with Thomas.

I do like @TobinAlbers' ideas of her being Macy and Thorne's daughter and wouldn't that just chap Hauxdi and Sludge's ass that Sally is a real Forrester (and normally, I couldn't care less about blood ties, but in their case, I'll make an exception).

[TobinAlbers]

26 minutes ago, CountryGirl said:

Hard pass to Sally returning to turn the ToD into the Q (Quadrangle) of Doom because CH and the character deserve better. I'd rather have her offscreen and living happily ever after with Thomas.

I agree, but if they're bringing her back and doing such an abrupt about face with her happy ending and the actress is also willing to come back is if they've got a story planned that is worth bringing her back. But problem is she can't be Thorne's daughter as she'd be Thomas's half cousin via Stephanie which will ick some peeps out.  But maybe they'll just go with she's Macy's daughter and Thorne adopts her because he's protective.

Did Macy and Deacon ever sleep together before her final return to her coma? Because that'd be something if she was Deacon and Macy's kid!

[nkotb]

If she was Macy & Deacon's kid, she'd also be Hope's half-sister! OMG, then Steffy's claws would really be out for her!

[nilyank]

3 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

do like @TobinAlbers' ideas of her being Macy and Thorne's daughter and wouldn't that just chap Hauxdi and Sludge's ass that Sally is a real Forrester (and normally, I couldn't care less about blood ties, but in their case, I'll make an exception).

Thorne and Ridge both have the same mother, so Thomas and Sally would have done a ton of cousin loving. 

[Anna Yolei]

3 hours ago, TobinAlbers said:

Did Macy and Deacon ever sleep together before her final return to her coma? Because that'd be something if she was Deacon and Macy's kid!

They were actually married ;)

[TobinAlbers]

3 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

They were actually married ;)

No, I know they were married but I couldn't remember if they enjoyed the marital benefits fully or was it a 'business' arrangement.

Because if they did do the deed and Sally 2.0 survived her momma getting conked on the head again, that would be amazing to have another Sharpe daughter on the scene. Or just make her Macy's kid so that Thorne vows to treat her like his own daughter. Works either way for me!

[Anna Yolei]

I do seem to remember they bonded over their alcoholism and Macy did genuinely care to help Deacon get custody of his kids (I don't think he ever got custody for Hope since Nick nearly adopted her, but the fight over Eric sent Amber over the edge and resulted in Becky's parents having custody once and for all).

So, it was legit, even if Macy got the added bonus of sticking it to Brooke for that business with Thorne.

[CountryGirl]

17 hours ago, TobinAlbers said:

I agree, but if they're bringing her back and doing such an abrupt about face with her happy ending and the actress is also willing to come back is if they've got a story planned that is worth bringing her back. But problem is she can't be Thorne's daughter as she'd be Thomas's half cousin via Stephanie which will ick some peeps out.  But maybe they'll just go with she's Macy's daughter and Thorne adopts her because he's protective.

Did Macy and Deacon ever sleep together before her final return to her coma? Because that'd be something if she was Deacon and Macy's kid!

Slaps forehead...also, ew! 

Although it certainly didn't stop GL's Tammy and Jonathan. 

14 hours ago, nilyank said:

Thorne and Ridge both have the same mother, so Thomas and Sally would have done a ton of cousin loving. 

Edited May 31, 2018 by CountryGirl

[SweePea59]

On 5/25/2018 at 11:58 AM, Anna Yolei said:

There is that British Avant cousin coming aboard soon, no?

Cousin Barnabas?

[hypnotoad]

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Cousin Barnabas?

Let me tell you ... if the show took a turn like this? I would watch the hell out of it!! Would the Triangle of Doom become the Triangle of the unDead?

[TobinAlbers]

Baby Kelly makes it!

 

[CountryGirl]

Okay, obviously I wish no harm on Baby Kelly (or any fictional soap baby), but Hauxdi was barely 6 months along (she got pregnant just before Thanksgiving). There is no way that she wouldn't be touch and go in the NICU that premature.

But far be it for this show to even come close to reality. I know soap babies typically look like 3 month olds due to the restrictions on using newborns but come the eff on!

[TobinAlbers]

 

Gotta laugh that Liam's hair is styled and Steffy's manicure, flawless. Cute baby though.

Aw, helll. I'm glad Liam has his baby girl. Now countdown to finding out Bill is the daddy in 3....2....1...

[CountryGirl]

That baby is sooooo Bill's.

[Gam2]

Why was there no pediatrician in that delivery room for a preemie? Although the fab Dr. Givens said at the end that technically, Kelly wasn’t a preemie. Huh? Everyone has been saying that the baby was too early, wasn’t due for WEEKS, it was too soon for her to come. Ok. Whatever. 

[Anna Yolei]

1 hour ago, Gam2 said:

Why was there no pediatrician in that delivery room for a preemie? Although the fab Dr. Givens said at the end that technically, Kelly wasn’t a preemie. Huh? Everyone has been saying that the baby was too early, wasn’t due for WEEKS, it was too soon for her to come. Ok. Whatever. 

Assuming they've fudged numbers a bit, she could have just been 4 to 6 weeks early...which wouldn't be great, but very likely survivable. My nephew was born 5 wks early and was otherwise healthy, but even with him, he still spent some time in NICU before going home. 

[ByTor]

On 6/4/2018 at 2:07 PM, Gam2 said:

Although the fab Dr. Givens said at the end that technically, Kelly wasn’t a preemie. Huh? Everyone has been saying that the baby was too early, wasn’t due for WEEKS, it was too soon for her to come.

That's right, Dr. Givens (LOL) would have said the age of the fetus during at least one of the ultrasounds.

[TobinAlbers]

spoilers from www.thetvwatercooler.com

Coming up on B&B during the week of June 11:

-Emma pays a visit to a family member in town.
-Julius’ nephew Xander arrives in Los Angeles.
-Thorne spends some time with Katie.
-Sally returns to town and makes a shocking revelation to Wyatt.

https://www.thetvwatercooler.com/2018/06/bold-and-the-beautiful-spoilers-june-2018/

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Fyi, "Emma" is the intern character, played by Nia Sioux, who debuted near the end of April.
According to the May 31st closing credits, the character's full name is "Emma Barber".

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Well, now. Justin gets some family on the show again! Finally some fresh blood!

And we now get what the new teen scene will be Justin's niece Emma and the latest Avant, Xander.

So any bets on what Sally's shocking revelation to Wyatt of all people is gonna be?

[Anna Yolei]

40 minutes ago, TobinAlbers said:

So any bets on what Sally's shocking revelation to Wyatt of all people is gonna be?

That she woke up and was back in love with Liam like Brooke was suddenly in love with Ridge after being married to Thorne for six months?

[TobinAlbers]

2 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

That she woke up and was back in love with Liam like Brooke was suddenly in love with Ridge after being married to Thorne for six months?

It'll probably be something lame like she and Thomas' time has passed and they broke up. Or she came into some money. 

She's no longer for Liam. It looks like they're shifting gears to step up Wyatt as the single man to be fought over now that Liam has been put out to pasture as a father. Flitting back and forth between women when one of them is your baby mammas isn't a good look.  They didn't have Ridge do it unless Taylor was dead. What I can't figure is why Hope isn't being transitioned to Wyatt (I'd say Thorne but the show may think they're too squicky) so I guess that means that they're keeping her sniffing around Liam which is just so not good. Honestly, I think Hope is on her way out unless Kelly is revealed to be Bill's and/or they have her get pregnant with Liam's kid.

[Anna Yolei]

1 minute ago, TobinAlbers said:

Honestly, I think Hope is on her way out unless Kelly is revealed to be Bill's and/or they have her get pregnant with Liam's kid.

I hope so, on both accounts.

[CharlizeCat]

I read that Sally will return to town, bitter and hurting from a break-up with Thomas.

Bill, experiencing similar feels over the "loss" of Hauxdi, connects with Sally.

The $64,000 question is ... is the genuine or is Sally playing Dollah as revenge on everything he's done to her?

I kind of call bull on this. Why in the world would Sally even give Bill the time of day after all the hell he has put her through?  Wait. This is B&B. I guess that instead of a white stallion, he'll drive up instead in a weathered black Ferrari plus a nice painting to hand on a wall at non-existent SF and try to "make things right."  How could she possibly trust him after not only all the initial damage, but then reneging on trying to help her regain her foothold?

I certainly hope this is just a bunch of smoke. I expect better for our gal Sal.  You'd think by now that she'd have wised up to not expecting any man to rescue her. 

However, that would certainly be more interesting than throwing her into the mix of the ToD or even worse, with Wyatt and Katie.  

I would be happy with Katie/Thorne and Wyatt/Sally. Let losers Steam wallow to themselves. Hope can go back to Europe. GarBridge can implode again.

[thewhiteowl]

IDK, there were many who commented on the chemistry between Dolla and Sally when she shot the much beloved but now forgotten Skye. I can't imagine Steffy would be cool about it either. Maybe they have something here. What could we smush  name them? Dally? Bally? Solla? Oh, the possibilities!  LOL