S01.E05: Flight Of The Living Dead

[ElectricBoogaloo]

Liv reluctantly eats the brains of her recently murdered sorority sister Holly to help gain insight into her murder. This case takes Liv and Clive into Holly's world of extreme sporting where they meet professional snowboarder Carson McComb, a murder suspect who appears to be hiding a secret. Meanwhile, Liv has a strange connection with one of the other murder suspects and Major voices his concern to Clive over a young boy's disappearance.

 

Promo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sJYT5oLWvI

[FurryFury]

Liv reluctantly eats the brains of her recently murdered sorority sister Holly to help gain insight into her murder.

 

Funny, I had the exact same idea during the latest ep - for Liv to intentionally eat a person's brain to solve their murder (only I'd pick someone close to her - her brother, Peyton or, ideally, Major). It wouldn't be as dramatically powerful with a person we haven't seen.

Also, it seems that her mentioning her sorority wasn't as throwaway as I expected. Kudos to the writers.

[ElectricBoogaloo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9CVf6nUv4A

[fastiller]

DICK!

[bettername2come]

ARTHUR!

[ElectricBoogaloo]

Clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYwe8GBcL8s

[Sakura12]

Liv must be hungry. Lol

[enlightenedbum]

First kind of disappointing episode.  Still not actually bad, but the incorporation of the deceased's personality was weak and there might be too many zombies and larger zombie plot related details.  If it turns into a conspiracy kind of show I'll be annoyed.

[Watcher0363]

First kind of disappointing episode.  Still not actually bad, but the incorporation of the deceased's personality was weak and there might be too many zombies and larger zombie plot related details.  If it turns into a conspiracy kind of show I'll be annoyed.

Well it certainly looks like the threads are all pointing to conspiracy. Which in all honesty is the only place this show can go. Because how easy can it be to find fresh human brains lying around to eat, without drawing attention to yourself. I agree it was the least entertaining episode of the show so far. But it looks like they are laying the ground work for the standard good versus evil universe.

[bettername2come]

Hello, King Arthur. You make a surprisingly attractive zombie. And brunette.

 

I really liked Major this episode. He took initiative and fought better than I thought he would. I never liked Robert Buckley very much on One Tree Hill, but he's growing on me here.

Edited April 15, 2015 by bettername2come

[Ubiquitous]

ANOTHER zombie (or two or three)?!?!?!? Not liking it.

OK, who was the hot blond guy they were interviewing? I recognized him...

[redsox7819]

Hello, King Arthur. You make a surprisingly attractive zombie. And brunette.

 

Had to google the reference but damn he is hot.

Edited April 15, 2015 by redsox7819

[enlightenedbum]

ANOTHER zombie (or two or three)?!?!?!? Not liking it.

OK, who was the hot blond guy they were interviewing? I recognized him...

Dick Casablancas?  Well, technically Ryan Hansen, but he'll always be Dick to me.

[Bort]

I almost missed the plot of the episode because I was sighing dreamily at King Arthur the whole time. Here's to hoping iZombie's writers are like Merlin's and write him gratuitously shirtless quite often.

I'm so shallow.

[redsox7819]

I think I might have to check this Merlin show out. You had me at gratuitously shirtless.

[Sakura12]

I guess the Apocalypse has started with all the zombie running around. 

 

Lowell has more personality than Major who is turning out to be a real dumbass. Plus he had great chemistry with Liv, she looked like she was going to jump him right there had Major not shown up. Of course that could be left over from adrenaline junkie sorority sister. 

 

Dick!!!! Who is still a dick. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Dick slept with guys too. 

 

I loved Ravi making fun of her, the character interactions is what makes this show great, not the case of the week. 

[sjohnson]

Liv evidently doesn't care how other zombies get their brains. Depraved indifference isn't attractive. 

[Athena5217]

So is the police captain supposed to be a zombie? It looked like was drinking hot sauce at the end.

Why is Liv the only zombie that doesn't dye her hair or use makeup? It seems like she would do those things so no one finds out her secret. of course, she also talks about eating brains at a crime scene with lots of people around so maybe she's not as concerned as her voice overs say she is.

Edited April 15, 2015 by Athena5217

[Julia]

I think I might have to check this Merlin show out. You had me at gratuitously shirtless.

I take issue with the word gratuitous. Semi-naked Bradley James was essential to the plot, dammit, like Colin Morgan's completely ridiculous eyes.

Edited April 15, 2015 by Julia

[Izeinwinter]

Peyton: "I feel so cheated on".

*Me*: bites fist to smother laughter*

 

I love Peyton. And the two of them are so very married. 

 

Okay, so.. How many zombies are Blaine making?  It felt off when Liv didn't immediately dig for origin story and means of sustenance. I suppose I can blame in on her being high as a kite on adrenaline junkie brains, and it was necessary to not derail the episode plot immediately into a "Hunt down Blaine" plot, but still, felt a tad off. 

Edited April 15, 2015 by Izeinwinter

[Cranberry]

I watched this with my brother and he was convinced that Major was going to be in the body bag that Liv opened at the end of the episode, right after her cute talk with Lowell. I can't decide whether I'm glad that it wasn't him, or disappointed. I don't mind the character, but killing him off so early would have been a good twist.

 

I really liked Lowell. I hope to see him again. I also liked that Liv didn't go "full-on zombie mode" this episode; I was afraid the show was going to get too formulaic with her always solving the case of the week, ending up in harm's way, and beating the crap out of someone. I also like that the show's managing to tie (almost) all of the main characters into the big story, with both Major and Clive looking into the missing kids now, Clive's boss a zombie, Blaine dealing to zombies, and Ravi studying all of the zombies. Now Peyton just needs more to do.

[enlightenedbum]

I watched this with my brother and he was convinced that Major was going to be in the body bag that Liv opened at the end of the episode, right after her cute talk with Lowell. I can't decide whether I'm glad that it wasn't him, or disappointed. I don't mind the character, but killing him off so early would have been a good twist.

 

I really liked Lowell. I hope to see him again. I also liked that Liv didn't go "full-on zombie mode" this episode; I was afraid the show was going to get too formulaic with her always solving the case of the week, ending up in harm's way, and beating the crap out of someone. I also like that the show's managing to tie (almost) all of the main characters into the big story, with both Major and Clive looking into the missing kids now, Clive's boss a zombie, Blaine dealing to zombies, and Ravi studying all of the zombies. Now Peyton just needs more to do.

I was with your brother, for the record.

 

So this sounds like I hated it more than I did, but Liv not asking two obvious questions bothered me:

 

1) How did you become a zombie? (Max Rager, right?)

2) Where do you get your brains? (Blaine, presumably)

[Lila82]

This episode felt *so* much like "Veronica Mars," what with Liv toting around a messenger bag, snooping in people's private things, and talking on her enormous phone.  Throw in Dick Casablancas and a Madison Sinclair look alike and...it was jarring.  There are often similarities, particularly in dialogue and mood, but it was particularly obvious tonight.  I also like that Liv took initiative (or followed Babineaux's advice) in this episode, but I'd also like it to be a one time thing or the show will really start feeling like VM with zombies.

 

Lowell's speech was totally swoon worthy.  Get it, Liv!

 

Why is Liv the only zombie that doesn't due her hair or use makeup?

 

 

From the way she reacted to Lowell, it sounded like it genuinely hadn't occurred to her.  Yet, while Zombie!Liv might not wear makeup, someone in the crew when insane with the makeup this episode.  The foundation was flaking, she had Kylie Jenner lips, the wig was especially terrible.  C'mon, makeup department.

 

ETA:

 

We got confirmation that all zombies inherit a brain's personality traits.  Or at least Lowell does; he made a comment about it to Liv while whipping up Bloody Marys.  I also appreciate the nod to "Warm Bodies," which contains elements of eating brains and inheriting visions, but is also a totally underrated movie and even more underrated book.

Edited April 15, 2015 by Lila82

[dohe]

Lowell did have more chemistry with Liv than Major. That said, a lawnchair would have more chemistry with Liv than Major. On the other hand, a lawnchair would have more chemistry with Liv than Lowell. So Lowell beats Major on the chemistry front and yet both just don't rise to the rank of a lawn chair. As someone who expects more than looks, this stuff does zilch for me.

Liv has shown actual chemistry with Ravi, with Clive, and with Payton. But instead Veronica Mars redux continues to go these disappointing routes.

Edited April 15, 2015 by dohe

[ottoDbusdriver]

Why is Liv the only zombie that doesn't due her hair or use makeup? It seems like she would do thos things so no one finds out her secret. of course, she also talks about eating brains at a crime scene with lots of people around so maybe she's not as concerned as her voice overs say she is.

 

Or all that bronzer that Liv bought in the pilot episode ?  How do rocker guy and the police captain and the bully at the skate park all keep their regular skin and eye coloring but Liv can't ?

 

As said upthread, way too many zombies.  It's going to get to the point where there are more zombies than regular people -- like the vampire movie 'Daybreakers' -- and then where will they get brains from ?

 

ETA:  I know they film this in Vancouver disguised as Seattle, but having Liv ride a bike down a hill towards the Olympic flame from the 2010 Vancouver Winter Olympics is kind of a real giveaway.

Edited April 15, 2015 by ottoDbusdriver

[Check Sanity]

Liv evidently doesn't care how other zombies get their brains. Depraved indifference isn't attractive. 

Yeah I felt that was strange. Though they were talking about the case and she was crushing, so I can kind of see where she'd be distracted? Kind of. You'd think it'd come up as a thing they have in common. Anyways, I'm assuming like someone else above that he gets his brains from Blaine. As a well off musician I'm guessing he's rich, so he'd be a target.

 

So is the police captain supposed to be a zombie? It looked like was drinking hot sauce at the end.

Why is Liv the only zombie that doesn't due her hair or use makeup? It seems like she would do thos things so no one finds out her secret. of course, she also talks about eating brains at a crime scene with lots of people around so maybe she's not as concerned as her voice overs say she is.

All signs point to the police captain being a zombie. His weird interaction with Liv (anyone else think that he has also figured out that Liv is a zombie?), the nail clipping *right after* Lowell mentions it as how if found Liv out, then of course the hot sauce and his comment about instagram and food porn due to his new "diet". And he clearly (IMO) was turned by Blaine so he could get away with murdering missing people.

Liv was already pretty pale before her zombiefication, and she can pull off the look. Lowell said it didn't suite him. Blaine also doesn't dye his hair either, though remember. Also Liv went through a whole depression like stage before she started crime solving and finding purpose in living again, her routine of putting little effort in doing just enough to pass as a live human was built then. Plus remember she thought she was the only one for a long time, why would she think other's would jump to that conclusion?

As for the conversation at the crime scene, I think that could be explained away as dark morgue humour. Ravi eats around the bodies too. However, I think there are better examples of them talking about her eating brains in public that aren't so easy to explain... just maybe not this episode. I can't recall at the moment.

 

I watched this with my brother and he was convinced that Major was going to be in the body bag that Liv opened at the end of the episode, right after her cute talk with Lowell. I can't decide whether I'm glad that it wasn't him, or disappointed. I don't mind the character, but killing him off so early would have been a good twist.

 

I really liked Lowell. I hope to see him again. I also liked that Liv didn't go "full-on zombie mode" this episode; I was afraid the show was going to get too formulaic with her always solving the case of the week, ending up in harm's way, and beating the crap out of someone. I also like that the show's managing to tie (almost) all of the main characters into the big story, with both Major and Clive looking into the missing kids now, Clive's boss a zombie, Blaine dealing to zombies, and Ravi studying all of the zombies. Now Peyton just needs more to do.

I too thought it was Major in the body bag, but I think it'd be too soon for him to die. Any I'd rather there be time for her to explore her chemistry with Lowell before a full blown triangle occurs. Because even if Major had been in that bag, I also thought he'd be a zombie, for storytelling sake. Plus they just moved Ravi in with him last episode, which brings him into their storylines a bit, they wouldn't kill him off completely that quick. 

Did anyone else find it jarring that this episode of the week wasn't exactly solved? It wasn't solved, the other girl went missing (likely dead or a zombie now). This episode was definitely building up for stuff down the line.

[90 Day Pinochet]

 I also appreciate the nod to "Warm Bodies," which contains elements of eating brains and inheriting visions, but is also a totally underrated movie and even more underrated book.

 

I also enjoyed the Party Down reference, however an irrational part of me is still holding out hope that Willie the Wino didn't totally disappear and will be played by Adam Scott in a future episode:

 

Edited April 15, 2015 by 90 Day Pinochet

[Julia]

I endorse Lowell. Not just because Bradley James, although bluntly that would be enough, but I was worried they were going to go for a Spuffy thing with the cartoonishly evil master criminal zombie (not that most of the characters weren't cartoonishly evil this week). If they're not going to let Major have a personality, a smart, successful dead guy with (so far) ethics sounds like a good option.

I don't blame her for not interrogating him about his food supply. Being hit on by a charming fellow undead revenant is a new situation for her.

[twoods]

Bradley James is in this episode? Yes please! I still swoon at the thought of him saying "gweneviere". Brutally hot.

[GaT]

"Shut up or I'll eat you!" LOL

 

So is the police captain supposed to be a zombie? It looked like was drinking hot sauce at the end.

Why is Liv the only zombie that doesn't due her hair or use makeup? It seems like she would do thos things so no one finds out her secret. of course, she also talks about eating brains at a crime scene with lots of people around so maybe she's not as concerned as her voice overs say she is.

Not only is he a zombie, he knows why all the kids are disappearing & he's covering it up. I thought it was strange how he acted towards Liv, it was because he recognized she was a zombie too.

 

I don't understand why Liv is the only one who doesn't try to cover up. Considering that all the other zombies are guys, it seems even stranger that the female is the only one who didn't think of hair dye & spray tans.

 

I watched this with my brother and he was convinced that Major was going to be in the body bag that Liv opened at the end of the episode, right after her cute talk with Lowell. I can't decide whether I'm glad that it wasn't him, or disappointed. I don't mind the character, but killing him off so early would have been a good twist.

 

 

 

I was absolutely convinced it was going to be Major, it threw me when it wasn't.

[thuganomics85]

I honestly don't think I've seen Bradley James since the Merlin days.  But, I'm glad he's here now.  He was actually pretty awesome as Lowell, and I'm already digging him and Rose McIver together.  I hope he sticks around: Liv could use a zombie boyfriend.  If would be fun to seem them out on dates, and her introducing him to Peyton and Major.  And Clive's reaction should be fun, due to the whole being a suspect thing.  Plus, it will also let Ravi continue to to take playful jabs, which I find highly enjoyable.

 

I was confused over the resolution to the case.  Was the other girl really the killer and she just ran off?  I thought Clive said something that might have put it in the doubt, but I couldn't make sense of it.  Plus, what was the deal about the shower curtains being gone?

 

Granted, I'm not a brain-dealing kingpin like Blaine, but even if I was, I would think it would be wise to not get your "supplies" from one location.  Because that is going to look suspicious, if people keep missing in one certain area.  Maybe branch out a bit, Blaine.

 

I also thought Major was going to be in that body-bag at the end.  He should consider himself lucky he wasn't.  It's hard for me to warm up to him, if he's going to be that idiotic.

 

Despite all my questions, I'm still really enjoying the show.  It just makes me laugh a lot, which I appreciate.  And, again: I really love Rose McIver in this.

[Minneapple]

Bradley James, yes please. He's even more swoonworthy now than he was on Merlin. Yummy. Plus Lowell gives us the brooding kind of bad boy vibe without him being an actual bad guy.

I was also convinced that Major would be in the body bag at the end.

The case -- eh. But the POLICE CAPTAIN IS A ZOMBIE, wow, that threw me!

The hot sauce is reminding me of Roswell. When this show is on the brink, we can send thousands of hot sauce bottles to the CW to convince them to renew.

Liv's bike ride at the end, throwing up her arms, is a total throwback to the end of a My So-Called Life ep in which Angela does the exact same thing.

Edited April 15, 2015 by Minneapple

[Pazlovejoy]

Are we absolutely sure that Major isn't dead? He looked pretty dead after the zombie tossed him around. No. Don't tell me. I don't like spoilers.

Edited April 15, 2015 by Pazlovejoy

[enlightenedbum]

Are we absolutely sure that Major isn't dead? He looked pretty dead after the zombie tossed him around. No. Don't tell me. I don't like spoilers.

We're not sure (totally unspoiled here) but it'd be weird for the show to kill him after making a pretty obvious feint that he was in that body bag.

 

Also while we're ogling, Rose McIver really makes the whole zombie aesthetic work.

[ElectricBoogaloo]

Ravi continues to be adorable. When Lowell came in and Ravi said, "Oooooooh," I just cracked up. I loved that as soon as Liv started talking about Lowell, Ravi knew she was into him and was totally supportive of the zombie love.

 

I am willing to believe that Liv was so shocked that he recognized her as a zombie and then so excited about her crush and that's why she hasn't asked him the aforementioned questions about how he was turned and by whom, as well as where he's getting his brains. I'm willing to overlook that this week, but she better ask about this stuff next week! And now that he has pointed out how easy it was to tell she was a zombie based on her pale skin and hair, I hope she starts making even the tiniest bit of effort to hide one or the other.

 

Blaine has been a busy little beaver. He's not only turning rich people so he has customers but also runaways and non-rich people so that he has minions. I wasn't surprised by that, but Clive's boss! I guess I should compliment Blaine on targeting specific people to help make his empire easier to run but damn, Blaine, slow your roll with all the zombies.

Edited April 15, 2015 by ElectricBoogaloo

[dubbel zout]

Did anyone else find it jarring that this episode of the week wasn't exactly solved?

 

I thought it was. They know the girl on the run is the one who dosed everyone. They didn't catch her, true, but they're still trying to find her.

 

"Shut up or I'll eat you!" LOL

 

The Ravi/Liv friendship is the best thing on this show by a mile. They are so great together.

 

We're not sure (totally unspoiled here) but it'd be weird for the show to kill him after making a pretty obvious feint that he was in that body bag.

 

Robert Buckley is a contract player, so I'd be surprised if Major were killed off so soon. He seems an obvious victim down the road, though, if they want to go there.

 

damn, Blaine, slow your roll with all the zombies

 

Seriously. How does he know his minions won't gang up and turn on him? They're not all dummies like the meatheads last week.

Edited April 15, 2015 by dubbel zout

[Cranberry]

I thought he was turning the runaways into tasty entrees, not minions.

[Julia]

Something I hadn't considered, but Liv was still under the influence of her friend's brain when that conversation was happening, and her friend liked and trusted Lowell. Maybe that influenced her not asking the obvious question.

[dubbel zout]

I thought he was turning the runaways into tasty entrees, not minions.

 

I think Blaine is also creating a market for those tasty entrees. He's working both sides for the time being, it seems.

 

Do we know who created Blaine or how it happened? I can't remember if he mentioned that.

Edited April 15, 2015 by dubbel zout

[FurryFury]

Finally, we're starting to get into the mythology! So excited.

 

I knew from spoilers that Liv was going to get a zombie love interest, but I didn't know he'll be played by Bradley James. Yum. Nice chemistry (way better than with Major) and I'm totally up for more of Lowell. 

 

Great seeing Ryan Hansen again (playing a manslut, too!) He's always fun.

 

I totally guessed that Clive's boss was shady, but I didn't expect him to be a zombie! Hell, how many zombies are there and why is this company creating them? I suppose now that we know they are (supposedly) the real big bad, Blaine can eventually become an unreliable ally because I doubt he's connected to them. Although, who knows.

 

Major was really acting like an idiot. I get it, you're a good guy, but seriously, you still have your brains, act like it.

 

Do we know who created Blaine or how it happened? I can't remember if he mentioned that.

 

He said he didn't know, but I think he was lying.

 

And he clearly (IMO) was turned by Blaine so he could get away with murdering missing people.

 

Pretty sure he's connected to the company, Blaine's reach probably doesn't extend as far yet.

 

I honestly don't think I've seen Bradley James since the Merlin days.

 

I've seen him this season on Homeland, it was a random one-time appearance though.

Edited April 15, 2015 by FurryFury

[Evie]

I thought it was. They know the girl on the run is the one who dosed everyone. They didn't catch her, true, but they're still trying to find her.

I thought it was and it wasn't. They know who dosed Holly. The why is part of the continuing story. From what Carson said, it appears this company is turning employees into zombies. Did Blaine turn the head of the company or is this a separate enterprise? Is the girl really on the run or is she zombie food?

I do get why Liv hasn't tried to tone down the zombie look. She thought she was the only zombie until recently. She's been dealing with it all on her own. Blaine's creations and possibly this company's are presumably given the full service package in exchange for money and/or power.

Edited April 15, 2015 by Evie

[CinnamonCat]

Granted, I'm not a brain-dealing kingpin like Blaine, but even if I was, I would think it would be wise to not get your "supplies" from one location.  Because that is going to look suspicious, if people keep missing in one certain area.  Maybe branch out a bit, Blaine.

 

I actually thought this was a brilliant touch of bitter reality, reminiscent of Veronica Mars or even Angel.  From what I understand, most of the missing kids are troubled, young people of colour, who don't really have anyone looking after them. In that sense, they're the most vulnerable targets.

 

We're not sure (totally unspoiled here) but it'd be weird for the show to kill him after making a pretty obvious feint that he was in that body bag.

 

I've read some interviews with Buckley, and he said that 

Major is going to some really dark places, and that where he ends up at the end of the first season is miles away from where he was when it began.

 

Blaine's creations and possibly this company's are presumably given the full service package in exchange for money and/or power.

 By now it seems like the zombie-ism is caused by some sort of chemicals -- Utopium probably plays a big role in this, as does Max Rager. The two likely share some components.

 

I loved the reveal with Clive's boss. First, there's the odd comment about his new diet. Then you see him clipping his nails and go, "shitshitshit." And then the hot sauce. Bam. 

 

Also, I know I'm pretty alone in this, but I can't help but love Major. Maybe it's because I find Robert Buckley completely adorable (he calls himself the Daniel Day-Lewis of mediocre acting, bless). Also, while I agree his character plays the same role Duncan did back on VM, it's important to remember that Duncan was actually a rather interesting character... until Teddy Dunn happened. 

 

Add me to the Lowell-loving crowds. The charm! The voice! The speech! I'm fully aware he might turn out to be not a good guy, but I'm too distracted by the sexy to care.

[fastiller]

Hello, King Arthur. You make a surprisingly attractive zombie. And brunette.

.

 

Thats who that was!  Thank you (and thanks to the rest of you too) for IDing him.

 

Dick Casablancas?  Well, technically Ryan Hansen, but he'll always be Dick to me.

That's what she said.

 

Ravi continues to be adorable. When Lowell came in and Ravi said, "Oooooooh," I just cracked up. I loved that as soon as Liv started talking about Lowell, Ravi knew she was into him and was totally supportive of the zombie love.

Yes he is adorable.  I'd love for Ravi & Lowell to talk about life back home, just to have two attractive men with their attractive accents on screen..

 

On another topic: when Major hugged Liv, I wondered if he or someone else would ever ask her why she's so cold.  I'd imagine she's cold, but maybe that's not in this show's cannon (canon?).

 

ETA: I meant physically cold.

Edited April 15, 2015 by fastiller

[Sakura12]

With the dying her hair and using spray tan. I figured that Liv just doesn't care about that. Not that she can't do that or hasn't thought of that. She's embracing her new look and doesn't care what anyone else thinks of her. Or we could also take that has she gave up her old life and is starting to live another one while the rest of the zombies are still trying to live their old lives, Lowell with his music and adrenaline junkie stuff and Blaine with his drug dealing. 

[maxineofarc]

 

Is the girl really on the run or is she zombie food?

 

I don't think she's on the run. The shower curtain is probably missing because whoever disappeared her used it to wrap her body.

[Sakura12]

This show is like Forever, where I enjoy the character interactions and don't care about the case of the week. The CotW is there to give us the character interactions.

 

Liv likes to be able to talk about her zombieness with Ravi.  Then she meets another zombie who happens to be hot, I don't blame her not asking questions yet. Hopefully she does if she sees him again.

 

Major is turning out to be sweet but dumb and boring. They have him doing the nice guy things but don't inject any personality into him. I have no idea what Liv saw in him. Did she just go with him because he's hot? I'm trying to like him, but so far I can't.  

[saber5055]

Another one here who thought that was Major in the body bag. While I would not miss him, he's so wooden and what does Liv see in him anyway?, it would have been a shocking downer to what was a pretty fun episode for Liv.

 

YES! to a Liv/Lowell romance. He's hot, hot, hot, and man, does he say all the right things. But I'm wondering: When the sorority sister's freestyle brains wear off, will Liv still be attracted to Lowell? I'd keep those sister brains in the fridge for another snack if Lowell started looking unappealing. Because ... me want to go to there.

[FurryFury]

Major is turning out to be sweet but dumb and boring. They have him doing the nice guy things but don't inject any personality into him. I have no idea what Liv saw in him. Did she just go with him because he's hot? I'm trying to like him, but so far I can't.

 

I'd say he represents her past. The Liv that was. Or he should, really. If we take the show as a metaphor of a person who decides to go off the rails, so to speak, to express themselves in a new way and to find a new meaning of life, he should die at some point so Liv can truly, 100% let go. But that's my vision and understanding. I really feel like he should have been recurring, though, not a regular. He's just not interesting enough and he doesn't have much of a purpose so far. I'm just not sure what RT wants us to think about Major - should we root for the romance (because nothing has made me think we should)? Or are we supposed to want Liv to move on (I know I do)? I do admit RT's past history with Duncan colors my perception somewhat, I'm still afraid he's stuck on this "past love is the best" idea that never worked on VM. Although Major's nowhere as bad as Duncan, thankfully.

Edited April 15, 2015 by FurryFury

[Minneapple]

He's just not interesting enough and he doesn't have much of a purpose so far.

 

I'm guessing they're working on that with him getting mixed up in the missing kids situation and getting his ass kicked. I don't really care about Major much (seriously when I thought he was in that body bag I was angry that his death would interrupt the hawt Liv/Lowell scene), but it seems they're trying at least.

 

But yes, Major is better than Duncan. I think Robert Buckley is more charming than Teddy Dunn and that helps.

[FurryFury]

I'm guessing they're working on that with him getting mixed up in the missing kids situation and getting his ass kicked.

 

Yeah, but this storyline is still boring. And he behaves in a very stupid way. Who goes into a shady part of town and picks a fight with a clearly stronger guy just after emphatically being told not to do it?

 

But yes, Major is better than Duncan. I think Robert Buckley is more charming than Teddy Dunn and that helps.

 

It does help also that Liv was the one to dump Major and not vice versa. And that his character is boring, but at least makes sense.