S05.E22: Reunion Part 3

[CTO]

I would hope we won't be shaming people for the snark, no matter how we feel about this.

That's precisely why Kim shouldn't be back next season. Everyone would be walking on eggshells around her for fear they'd be seen as some kind of monster. That show should be over.

Amen. Totally agree. That's why it's been brutal reading this board this season. RHOBH is not entertainment and never has been in retrospect.

[Duke2801]

Thanks so much for the info, Izabella.

 

I did a little googling about the pillow incident and found it's Twitter account:

 

https://twitter.com/kimspillow

 

Alex McCord follows it on Twitter, which makes me giggle.

 

 

Seriously, this Twitter Account has MADE my afternoon.   Dying over here.  

 

I just found loose change on the bed (34 cents!). Awesome. I'm saving up to buy a Tide to Go stick.

 

 

Say what you want about my stains. I'm break like the wind fabulous!

 

 

What a shitty day. Time for bed. #RHOBH

 

[Trooper York]

Hitler's mom Big Klara was a notorious stage mother. She tried to get him cast in several operas written by Richard Wagner. He briefly starred in an aborted version of "Little Fuehrer on the Prairie" that was canceled after two performances.

 

He blamed his sister. 

 

He also blamed her for stealing his house that his mother left to him.

 

And he still wasn't as bad as Kim Richards.

[PreposterousISTA]

  lisa rinnaVerified account
‏@lisarinna

I was sad to hear about Kim’s incident and I wish her and her family the best.

  
   

2:59 PM - 16 Apr 2015

[blueeyed]

Kyle has not talked to Kim in damn near 6 months.  Kim being a drunken, mean piece of shit is independent of Kyle.  Kyle did not make Kim.  Kyle is not why Kim is the way she is.  If everything you have said is correct then why isn't Kim doing so much better since she has been free from Kyle for 6 months?  

 

Kim hurts Kim.  Kyle didn't force Kim to do the show.  Kyle doesn't force Kim to do anything.  By all accounts Kim is much closer to Kathy than to Kyle so I don't believe Kyle has the power to force Kim to do anything.  Also, why hasn't the rest of the family stepped in to prevent Kyle from forcing Kim to do this show.  Could it be that Kim is a grown ass person and drunk or not she is still responsible for all her decisions.  She shows her ass on television all by herself, Kyle does not make her do so.

 

I don't understand or agree with the belief that Kim should be able to abdicate her responsibility because she is a drunk.  According to her and others she was sober for a period (doubtful) but there are other people in Kim's life that I'm sure have a bigger influence.

 

I would love to know the problems that Kim has admitted to having?  Is it when she pops a pill and screeches she is still sober and it was a one time slip up?  Is it when her dog attacks her niece and her first move is to go after her niece?  Is it when she screeches about a house being stolen from her when she knowingly took the money that was given to her and spent it but somehow still wants the house back. 

 

And your contention Kyle did this show to have a masterful arc of failure and redemption doesn't ring true to me.  So basically Kyle endured years of scorn for "outing" her very public alcoholic sister as an alcoholic, all so she could grow the fuck up and start disengaging.  Maybe she got an opportunity or maybe they both did, they had a pilot a couple years earlier so maybe it is something they both expressed doing.

 

Anyway, I'm not here for the narrative that Kim is forced to do anything.  For one I don't buy Kyle has that much power in Kim's life, and the narrative negates everything we hear about the family dynamics so why won't those other family members step in and force Kim to do all these things and save her from Kyle?

 

 

I wrote this long post and revealed way to much of my personal life, then my tablet froze (thanks son) before I could hit reply. ^This post is perfect.

 

The only person responsible for Kim is Kim. For heaven's sake Kyle is in New York.

[mwell345]

Brandi's blog is up.  She will "always be there for Kim".

 

It reads to me like a "farewell" blog, but that could be wishful thinking on my part.

 

Now off to read the Kim articles. 

[IKnowRight]

Brandi's blog is posted. "I'm always here for you, Kim":

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-5/blogs/brandi-glanville/brandi-im-always-here-for-you

This blog was the biggest load of BS I have ever read on a bravo blog. Brandi's fairytale is a repeat of her last statement on part 3 of the reunion. Another words, now that I've pissed everyone off, ridiculed, accused, victimized, humiliated, shoved, "outed hypocrisy" on all of you bitches, I just want to say, it's all good, why can't we just say sorry and move on like nothing happened in the first place?!!! OMG. This is exactly why LVP will not let you off the hook anymore. Brandi is that person that does what's she wants, doesn't ask permission, & insincerely apologies afterward.

Don't worry, I've already read comments on these online articles that blame the show and the other ladies for Kims outburst last night!! There are some already in place pleading her case and commenting that Kims behavior was a reaction to victimization from the other housewives. I posted a comment on this in the Kim Richards thread. So, yes, she has people out there who have already blamed Kyle, LisaR, Eilleen, etc

Edited April 16, 2015 by IKnowRight

[haydensterling]

I'm struggling to recall incidents of Kim hurting others GLEEFULLY, except with Brandi at PamDana's house that first night. She was pretty gleeful there maybe. No actually she was just straight up angry, defensive and mean there, not gleeful.

 

All the years of RHOBH, can someone point out for me the number of episodes of Kim gleefully hurting someone on the show? With intent to hurt I mean, not misunderstanding or mistrusting them - I mean full on intent to hurt someone? Because I can't remember any instances except with Brandi. I can remember Kim being very defensive a lot of times and other times, this last season, asserting herself and her right to boundaries which I was quite frankly proud of her for doing so and so well. 

 

I have seen tons of glee in Kyle hurting others. What have I forgotten about gleeful Kim episodes? Seriously. I see Kim as wounded from season 1 through to today - no glee, lot of pain, lot of not handling things so well, lot of difficulty standing up for herself, but no gleeful hurt to someone else. Help?

 

I have also been there and survived it. And in fact nursed to end of life (non addiction related at all) the two people who did the most harm to me and my life. I loved them. I wish you had that experience of being able to understand and forgive. It helps a lot.

 

Anyhow, empathy. It's rare apparently. I'm glad some here have it and are unafraid to say so. I need that. I need to know it's okay to be myself and feel empathy for someone who was part of this show we all watched. And I need to not see constant snark and derision toward those of us who have empathy and dare to say so. 

 

We're all allowed to be ourselves here I thought. Hard to read this board sometimes.

 

I guess I could go back and look for specific examples of Kim gleefully and willfully being malicious to people on the show, but then again she and Kyle have done it together and separately so often that it all kind of blends in.  I would say this season that Poker Night, the dinner in Amsterdam, and the reunion itself are all very good examples of Kim being malicious and gleeful about it. 

 

Not all people are able to be forgiven.  I'm not going to tell my life story on a message board (although I think I already have about twenty gazillion times) about the shit that went down with me and my mom, but then again I'm not required to.  I think it's great that you were able to move past what was done to you, forgive, and love your parents for who they were.  That's great, and I'm sure that it helped you heal a ton.  But it doesn't make those of us who are unable to do so, whether it's because of the nature of the abuse, the continuing toxicity of a relationship, or a hundred other things that might impede us from moving forward in a positive way with those who abused us somehow lesser than.   Not everyone can be forgiven, or even wants to be forgiven.  They just want to keep playing games, with your psyche and mental wellbeing as their playing field. In my case, that's not going to happen, for my own sake.

 

You're talking about empathy, and yet you sound a little bit judgey too.  I don't know if that's your intent, but that's how I read it. Sometimes tone is difficult to read on the internet.  

 

As for snark, I like snark.  This may not be TWoP, but snark is fun, and I would never expect to come to a message board about crazy dames out in Cali and expect it to be a safe space.  

[Satchels of gold]

You explain Schadenfreude but not NPD? C'mon...some of need spoon fed. What's NPD?

I hope Kim does go back to the Cirque Lodge and doesn't, you know, kill herself, which IMO is a real danger right now. Sadly, some people would be gleeful about that. I really can't imagine a more epically humiliating spectacle of falling on her own sword than getting arrested and thrown in the drunk tank and kicking a cop at 50-years-old ONE DAY after Kim Richards' Sobriety Testimony Hour a.k.a the reunion aired. I don't like her but it makes me sad to see anyone self-destruct. Except Hilter, fuck that guy.

I know this will be hard to take but it has to be this bad. Being incoherent on national TV didn't do it, being pantiless in the hallway in pr didn't do it, her dying father leaving her care due to her using didn't do it , being filmed high in the airport didn't do it. It will take something this awful to ever get Kim to REALLY hit bottom. If this is what it takes, this is what it takes. Years from now Kim may look back on this and think of it as the best night in her life because it's the time she really, truly got sober. That's the thing, there is always a lower bottom.

[BlackMamba]

Oh shit..

 

[sasha206]

And she also has ridicule, humiliation and all those other obstacles in the meantime. A person going thru cancer isn't battling those outside demons as well as their cancer.

 

I guess you've never spent much time at an oncologist?  I've had to take two family members to treatments and believe me what I saw in the waiting rooms and the conversations I've had with those suffering would give you a much different perspective.  Their problems are far more complex than a pampered, rich celebrities' struggle with alcoholism.  In addition to the physical toll it takes, the potential loss of life (and leaving behind children) there are many who go bankrupt getting treated.   Not to mention, many of these people become science experiments, with multiple surgeries, loss of limbs, chemo ports installed..

 

Much different than a wealthy woman who relapses and then blames everyone else for her issues.

Edited April 16, 2015 by sasha206

[Giselle]

I would hope we won't be shaming people for the snark, no matter how we feel about this.

That's precisely why Kim shouldn't be back next season. Everyone would be walking on eggshells around her for fear they'd be seen as some kind of monster. That show should be over.

 

As one of the snarky ones, I don't mind a difference of opinion that's what this board is for, to offer your opinion whether it is one of goodwill or if it is meaner than shit ( just as long as it isn't aimed at another member.) If I don't agree with a comment good or bad I scroll on past and keep reading, liking and posting. They are entitled to their opinion and their expression of it as am I.

 

xoxo

[BlackMamba]

Brandi's blog is up.  She will "always be there for Kim".

 

It reads to me like a "farewell" blog, but that could be wishful thinking on my part.

 

Now off to read the Kim articles. 

 

Did she leave bail money

[CTO]

I guess I could go back and look for specific examples of Kim gleefully and willfully being malicious to people on the show, but then again she and Kyle have done it together and separately so often that it all kind of blends in.  I would say this season that Poker Night, the dinner in Amsterdam, and the reunion itself are all very good examples of Kim being malicious and gleeful about it. 

 

Not all people are able to be forgiven.  I'm not going to tell my life story on a message board (although I think I already have about twenty gazillion times) about the shit that went down with me and my mom, but then again I'm not required to.  I think it's great that you were able to move past what was done to you, forgive, and love your parents for who they were.  That's great, and I'm sure that it helped you heal a ton.  But it doesn't make those of us who are unable to do so, whether it's because of the nature of the abuse, the continuing toxicity of a relationship, or a hundred other things that might impede us from moving forward in a positive way with those who abused us somehow lesser than.   Not everyone can be forgiven, or even wants to be forgiven.  They just want to keep playing games, with your psyche and mental wellbeing as their playing field. In my case, that's not going to happen, for my own sake.

 

You're talking about empathy, and yet you sound a little bit judgey too.  I don't know if that's your intent, but that's how I read it. Sometimes tone is difficult to read on the internet.  

 

As for snark, I like snark.  This may not be TWoP, but snark is fun, and I would never expect to come to a message board about crazy dames out in Cali and expect it to be a safe space.  

Not my parents both - 1 of my parents and the other was my eldest sister. So the sibling abuse thing is something I'm experienced with as well as parental.

 

My intent was not to judge. That was the intent I felt however from someone else posting all over the place about their authority on this. Like you, i'm not sharing my personal life indepth here but do know that we all - all of us here - have encountered abusive, diseased, addicted people in our lives. It's part of life and no one gets out unscathed unless you are a hermit I guess. I do not want to come here to discuss a tv show and the players on that show and be subjected to abuse here. That's what was happening so I said something. It's not okay.

 

The subject matter and main storyline of this season has been addiction and disease. That is never going to be snark worthy. This is the problem we're all running into I think, different viewpoints about that and how to talk about it at all and be respectful of each other.

 

I appreciate you reading and thank you for your thoughtful comment.

[Satchels of gold]

I wrote this long post and revealed way to much of my personal life, then my tablet froze (thanks son) before I could hit reply. ^This post is perfect.

 

The only person responsible for Kim is Kim. For heaven's sake Kyle is in New York.

He's watching out for you! I do wish you would share. I think you have a unique voice that should be heard......but it gets exhausting , I know.

[Mya Stone]

I understand that Kim's latest and greatest has many of you in an uproar. I'm fine with allowing this line of discussion to continue, with one caveat. 

Understand that each and every one of you comes to this board with different life experiences. These experiences add up to make you who you are today. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If you can not be civil about it, I will start taking action. 

 

[What Fresh Hell]

Oh shit..

 

Circling the wagons? Hope not.

[Giselle]

Hitler's mom Big Klara was a notorious stage mother. She tried to get him cast in several operas written by Richard Wagner. He briefly starred in an aborted version of "Little Fuehrer on the Prairie" that was canceled after two performances.

 

He blamed his sister. 

 

He also blamed her for stealing his house that his mother left to him.

 

And he still wasn't as bad as Kim Richards.

 

Oooh Trooper, You funny!

[Satchels of gold]

Did she leave bail money

No put she put money on her books. Oh the things Apolla Nida can teach you!

[nexxie]

Circling the wagons? Hope not.

Radar was talking about her daughter in one article.

[IKnowRight]

Circling the wagons? Hope not.

It doesn't matter what Radaronline or any tabloids report. The police statement is factual & her arrest this morning is being reported on legit news stations. The outburst is on record.

[GreatKazu]

The story Kyle must be referring to in her tweet:

http://radaronline.com/

[sking24450]

Circling the wagons? Hope not.

God I hope not.

 

It's a thankless job.  I hope she is simply referring to that article about Alexia.  Kyle should only protect her daughters from unwanted attention.  Kim is grown and wants nothing to do with Kyle so let Kim be. 

[What Fresh Hell]

Radar was talking about her daughter in one article.

Oh ok, that makes sense

[SwordQueen]

I guess I could go back and look for specific examples of Kim gleefully and willfully being malicious to people on the show, but then again she and Kyle have done it together and separately so often that it all kind of blends in.  I would say this season that Poker Night, the dinner in Amsterdam, and the reunion itself are all very good examples of Kim being malicious and gleeful about it. 

 

Not all people are able to be forgiven.  I'm not going to tell my life story on a message board (although I think I already have about twenty gazillion times) about the shit that went down with me and my mom, but then again I'm not required to.  I think it's great that you were able to move past what was done to you, forgive, and love your parents for who they were.  That's great, and I'm sure that it helped you heal a ton.  But it doesn't make those of us who are unable to do so, whether it's because of the nature of the abuse, the continuing toxicity of a relationship, or a hundred other things that might impede us from moving forward in a positive way with those who abused us somehow lesser than.   Not everyone can be forgiven, or even wants to be forgiven.  They just want to keep playing games, with your psyche and mental wellbeing as their playing field. In my case, that's not going to happen, for my own sake.

 

You're talking about empathy, and yet you sound a little bit judgey too.  I don't know if that's your intent, but that's how I read it. Sometimes tone is difficult to read on the internet.  

 

As for snark, I like snark.  This may not be TWoP, but snark is fun, and I would never expect to come to a message board about crazy dames out in Cali and expect it to be a safe space.  

 

Very well said, Sterling, and I'm so sorry you had to go through such crap with abusive people.  Sometimes forgiveness is not all its cracked up to be.  lol   Especially when those you work so hard to forgive keep on hurting you.  

 

People look compassion differently, I guess, and maybe there's no real "wrong" way to go about it.  One of my brothers is a child molester.  I guess maybe people can look at him and feel sorry for him and how awful it must be to have his family disown him, his wives divorce him, yadda, yadda, and some people choose, instead, to direct that compassion towards me and his other victims, instead.  Kim may have suffered when she was a child and she has may had a rough life with that mother of hers - for which I do feel empathy for the little girl that Kim was - but she's been an adult for way too long to keep blaming everyone else.  She has chosen to have four children and she's been around the recovery/sobriety block too many times to not be aware of what she's doing to not only herself, but to her family.  I'm choosing to aim my compassion towards all of the people in Kim's life who have been hurt by her, over and over and over again, which is mostly her very own children.  When I read this thread about the news on Kim, I didn't think "poor Kim", no.  I thought, after I said "Holy shit" to myself, "Those poor kids [of Kim's].  How many times have they been through this?".  It's a sad situation all around and I'm reminded of that tweet that Kyle put out there a few days ago saying that this struggle within her family means that no one is a winner.  Very, sadly, true.  

[One Tough Cookie]

Wonder what her excuse is going to be this time for partaking in some substance that she most likely somehow "took by mistake"........obviously it will be Kyle's fault.

 

 

It was the BARTENDER'S  fault--he made her drink those cocktails--she was just trying to be polite and couldn't say no.

Edited April 16, 2015 by One More Time

[Persnickety1]

THIS is my biggest issue with Kyle. You're exactly right. But here's what else I see and why Kyle disgusts me - Kyle did this show, with Kim in tow, and accomplished everything you wrote with the intention (I believe it was her intention, hidden but real) of coming out smelling like a rose at the EXPENSE of her sister Kim and Kim's addiction. 

 

And look, the majority of viewers see Kyle as a rose. The poor rose, who has weathered so much, and my gosh she is such a saint the poor thing. My biggest issue - Kyle is *exactly* the same as Kim and her family of origin, she just has had a better life outcome. Her actions, her attention seeking style (mean girling other girls etc.), her whining and crying to play the victim for all it's worth and yet, Kyle is no better than her family. Not one bit. In lifestyle appearance and status, Kyle appears better. But it's not hard for people with position, influence and money to appear better than others. It's easy because it's all surface. Integrity, values, how you treat others, etc. that comes from inside and inside Kyle is as barren, ugly at times and messed up as Kim. 

 

That's why for me Kyle wins nothing except my contempt and pity. At least Kim knows half her problems and admits them sometimes at least. Kyle won't claim any of her problems because Kyle needs to be perfect and not only perfect, she needs to be perfect in comparison to Kim. That's job #1 for Kyle. If not for RHOBH I would never have this opinion of Kyle or see it but thanks to all her hard work to that end over these several seasons, Kyle is just as visible to me as Kim is. I have empathy for Kim (not compassion, empathy - there is a difference) but for Kyle all I feel is disgust.

 

It's disgusting to do to your own sister what Kyle has done to Kim via this tv show. I hope someone helps Kim in the right way, and that it sticks, and that Kyle stays far away from Kim's life because Kyle doesn't help and really doesn't care to genuinely help Kim. She hurts Kim. Enough already. Let the professionals help Kim, that's what she needs finally.

 

Until I see Kyle pouring liquor down Kim's throat or "a pain pill" down her throat or pulling puppet strings to make her spew her venom, I'm assigning responsibility for Kim's actions squarely onto the shoulders of Kim.

[venusnv80]

Kim threatened to EXPOSE something about Kyle's kid about a dog? A DOG? I can't deal with this pathetic chick. 

 

And Andy, you know for the most part, I don't dislike him as much as most people...but for him to say he likes that BEAST that attacks people at whim? Whatever. That dog is not at the trainer, they are lying. 

[GreatKazu]

God I hope not.

 

It's a thankless job.  I hope she is simply referring to that article about Alexia.  Kyle should only protect her daughters from unwanted attention.  Kim is grown and wants nothing to do with Kyle so let Kim be. 

I just posted a link. Radar has a story about Kyle avoiding Kim after this arrest. I am sure this is the story she is referring to since it just came on their site.

[What Fresh Hell]

The story Kyle must be referring to in her tweet:

http://radaronline.com/

Here it starts with the "Isn't Kyle awful she won't speak to her sister in her time of need?" That poor woman is in a no-win situation. Kim flakes out and it'll be everyone else's responsibility again. Almost seems calculated.

[Trooper York]

Two great love stories.

 

Rick to Ilsa: "We will Always have Paris"

 

 

 Brandi to Kim: "We will always have Alcoholic Paresis"

 

[GreatKazu]

Here it starts with the "Isn't Kyle awful she won't speak to her sister in her time of need?" That poor woman is in a no-win situation. Kim flakes out and it'll be everyone else's responsibility again. Almost seems calculated.

It reeks of Brandi. lol   Doesn't she have Radar on speed dial?  She is the tabloid queen and she has mentioned having friends at the tabloids.

[CTO]

Yes, and they are expected to own their shit, as well and for the most part, they do.  But I'm talking about Kim now.  Kim needs to own Kim, and she doesn't.  THIS is why she is not recovering.  Not because of other people.  Sure people and situations can trigger responses in us, sometimes that we aren't even aware we're having, but Kim is ultimately the one who decides her fate, by creating it.  Every single day, when you have an illness or an addiction, you have to choose to not die.  Every single hour, pretty much.  That is on Kim and she can't keep putting not only the responsibility for her sobriety/life on other people, but the blame when she chooses to take a drug.  And if she does not trust the people in her life or she doesn't want their support, or if she feels that her environment is toxic to her, then it's Kim's responsibility to change her own environment.  It's not everyone else's to comply to Kim's litany of demands.  

I agree.

 

This is why I take issue with Kyle putting her sister on a reality tv show with her *knowing* that Kim was an addict, nobody knew Kim was an addict except family (I guess? re: season 1 ending), and how was that an ok and helpful decision? 

 

Hope that speaks more to help explain part of where I'm coming from with my posts. Caregiving and empathy is tricky business. It can easily go into codependent enabling and that hurts more than helps, it ramps up the damage actually and makes it harder ultimately for the person who needs help to actually get the right help.

[MollyBrown]

Kim is going to blame Kyle for this arrest. Because Kyle should have had an intervention for her before it went this far. Now poor Kim has been 100 percent arrested. :(

[Persnickety1]

Circling the wagons? Hope not.

 

I think Radar OnLine was embellishing a lot with that story, weren't they, about Kim knocking back vodka and tonics all night?

 

Since she's not denying the event occurred (which she couldn't possibly since the cops themselves issued a statement), I think she may just be calling them out on their creative "journalism" (which is pretty typical for ROL).  

 

The story is juicy enough.  They don't really need to embellish it.

 

Well, unless they have a reliable source at the police station who can tell us what she blew on her breathalyzer.

[walnutqueen]

Bravo is re-airing all 3 parts of the Reunion starting at 6:00 pm.  Part 3 also airs again at 11:30 pm.

 

What, too soon?  ;-)

[nexxie]

Kim threatened to EXPOSE something about Kyle's kid about a dog? A DOG? I can't deal with this pathetic chick. 

 

And Andy, you know for the most part, I don't dislike him as much as most people...but for him to say he likes that BEAST that attacks people at whim? Whatever. That dog is not at the trainer, they are lying.

Andy is like a middle school kid who giggles at the bad stuff that happens among the popular kids - but that comment about the dog creeped me out!

[Persnickety1]

Kim threatened to EXPOSE something about Kyle's kid about a dog? A DOG? I can't deal with this pathetic chick. 

 

And Andy, you know for the most part, I don't dislike him as much as most people...but for him to say he likes that BEAST that attacks people at whim? Whatever. That dog is not at the trainer, they are lying. 

 

I'll bet he wouldn't let Wacha around Kingsley even if Kingsley were muzzled.  Andy's a lying sack of shit about "liking" him.

 

Pretty sure he's never been to Kim's home and I've never seen Kim trot Kingsley out on WWHL, so I'm calling bullshit on Mr. Andy.

 

I don't think he's ever even been in the presence of Kingsley.

Edited April 16, 2015 by Persnickety1

[SwordQueen]

I agree.

 

This is why I take issue with Kyle putting her sister on a reality tv show with her *knowing* that Kim was an addict, nobody knew Kim was an addict except family (I guess? re: season 1 ending), and how was that an ok and helpful decision? 

 

Hope that speaks more to help explain part of where I'm coming from with my posts. Caregiving and empathy is tricky business. It can easily go into codependent enabling and that hurts more than helps, it ramps up the damage actually and makes it harder ultimately for the person who needs help to actually get the right help.

 

How did Kyle "put" Kim on this show without Kim's consent and will?  That's what I don't get.  Was Kim not mentally competent when she signed those gazillion legal forms to get on the show?  Why is this Kyle's fault and what about Better Sister Kathy?  Why isn't she to blame for "allowing" this to happen, if Kyle is such a Bad Sister to do that to Kim?

[What Fresh Hell]

I agree.

 

This is why I take issue with Kyle putting her sister on a reality tv show with her *knowing* that Kim was an addict, nobody knew Kim was an addict except family (I guess? re: season 1 ending), and how was that an ok and helpful decision? .

Kyle put Kim on the show? Do we know this?

[nexxie]

The story is on E News tonight.

"Kim Richards out of control!"

Edited April 16, 2015 by nexxie

[Trooper York]

Hitler once borrowed one of Goering's pain pills because he was in 100% pain because of bronchitis, pneumonia and a hernia.

 

The next thing you know he invaded Poland.

 

And he still isn't as bad as Kim Richards.

[GreatKazu]

I think Radar OnLine was embellishing a lot with that story, weren't they, about Kim knocking back vodka and tonics all night?

 

Since she's not denying the event occurred (which she couldn't possibly since the cops themselves issued a statement), I think she may just be calling them out on their creative "journalism" (which is pretty typical for ROL).  

 

The story is juicy enough.  They don't really need to embellish it.

 

Well, unless they have a reliable source at the police station who can tell us what she blew on her breathalyzer.

The story is that Kyle is refusing to talk to Kim after her arrest.

[renatae]

Still looking for Brandi's vindication

Dang, I love it!

[Persnickety1]

I agree.

 

This is why I take issue with Kyle putting her sister on a reality tv show with her *knowing* that Kim was an addict, nobody knew Kim was an addict except family (I guess? re: season 1 ending), and how was that an ok and helpful decision? 

 

Hope that speaks more to help explain part of where I'm coming from with my posts. Caregiving and empathy is tricky business. It can easily go into codependent enabling and that hurts more than helps, it ramps up the damage actually and makes it harder ultimately for the person who needs help to actually get the right help.

 

No one "put" Kim on the show but Kim.

 

She's a legal adult of presumably sound mind when she signs contracts.

 

Kyle is not her guardian nor her conservator.

 

Again, Kim is responsible for Kim.

[blueeyed]

I use a tablet and it never allows my to "like" posts. Swordqueen, you said it perfectly.

[sking24450]

I agree.

 

This is why I take issue with Kyle putting her sister on a reality tv show with her *knowing* that Kim was an addict, nobody knew Kim was an addict except family (I guess? re: season 1 ending), and how was that an ok and helpful decision? 

 

Hope that speaks more to help explain part of where I'm coming from with my posts. Caregiving and empathy is tricky business. It can easily go into codependent enabling and that hurts more than helps, it ramps up the damage actually and makes it harder ultimately for the person who needs help to actually get the right help.

 

I'm really not trying to be mean but I truly don't understand this.  How in the world did Kyle put Kim on this show?  Do you mean that because Kyle did not prevent Kim from joining the show she is to blame for putting her on the show?  Kim is an adult.  Kim has other family members.  How is Kyle being blamed for putting Kim on the show.  Kim put herself on the show.  She signed contracts with attorneys, her family members could have talked her out of it if they truly believed she was incapable.  The three sisters together had filmed a pilot with the intent of being on a reality show.  How is Kyle the one to blame for Kim?  When is Kim responsible for her actions? And if you believe that Kim is not able to make those decisions then why do you believe Kyle is responsible for making the decisions?  Kim has various ex-husbands, 4 kids, another sister, and lawyers.

 

How does Kyle have all this power over Kim?

[BlackMamba]

The story is on E News tonight.

"Kim Richards out of control!"

 

Understatement of the year.

 

No one "put" Kim on the show but Kim.

 

She's a legal adult of presumably sound mind when she signs contracts.

 

Kyle is not her guardian nor her conservator.

 

Again, Kim is responsible for Kim.

So true.  I'm sooo sick and tired of the mindset when Kim fucks up Kyle gets blamed.  I'm sorry but we're talking about a 50 yr old woman who refuses to take responsibility for anything!  

[SwordQueen]

It's the hair.  She hypnotizes Kim with it.  

 

<whips hair>  "Join me on RHoBH, Kim."

<whips hair>  "You don't need to go to rehab."

<whips hair> "Look at the hair, Kim, look at the hair."

[elainebenis]

The story is that Kyle is refusing to talk to Kim after her arrest.

 

If true, good.