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From a year ago tomorrow when Maddux and Glavine were elected.  I can't wait for Smoltzie to roast them during the induction ceremony this summer like they did him.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gobOqy6d178

 

I saw an amazing stat where Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz are the only HoFers to start games one, two, and three of the same World Series.  This happened in both 1995 and 1996.

About Mattingly, I have to wonder if the fact that he was a career Yankee and doesn't have a single World Series ring (and only one playoff series, which the Yankees lost) to show for it counted against him.  It's one thing for top players from other, title-starved teams (Ted Williams, Yaz, Ernie Banks) to make it in without rings; it's another when you played in the Bronx.  At this point, though, he's off the BBWAA ballot and it's up to the "whatever its name is this month" Committee.

 

the fact that he was a career Yankee and doesn't have a single World Series ring

The year of the players' strike (1994) the Yankees would absolutely have gone to the Series.  I've always admired Mattingly for backing the players even though he knew it meant it was going to cost him the ring.  At this point I also kind of wonder if his support of the players has cost him a place in the HoF.   To me he is very much like Ernie Banks - a good player on a bad team, and a gentleman on a team run by assholes. 

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The adage good pitching beats good hitting is true but you still need hitting to score runs so I see your point, one I'd not thought of before.

 

I'd typically agree with you, and if I had to choose I'd rather have good pitching. Our big guns with the exception of Harper and Rendon were so embarrassing in that series. Bumgarner was possessed, but for real - from Rick Snider:

 

 

Outfielder Denard Span, who set a team single-season record with 184 hits, batted .105 against the Giants. LaRoche was .056, outfielder Jayson Werth was .059, catcher Wilson Ramos was .118 and shortstop Ian Desmond was .167.

 

So, so, so, so bad. 

 

This is ignoring Drew Storen's implosion, though. BUT STILL. VERY BAD.

I rooted for The Cubs in1969 as a NYer who hated the Mets for daring to beat the Cubbies. Ernie's passing is sad and I am actually crying as I write.

 

You just know the Cubs are going to do something special to honor him this season and I hope they make a playoff push. A true icon. Must be a sad day in Chicago. 

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What is interesting is that today we generally see Cal Jr as the guy who changed the type of guy who played SS. Cal, A Rod are pretty big guys who could muscle the ball and be very athletic at the same time.  That's true but really Ernie's stats measure up quite well against Ripkin's.

 

Cal had 431 HR, 1695 RBI, 3184 Hits, BA .276  20 seasons

 

Ernie     512 HR, 1636 RBI, 2583 Hits, BA .274  19 seasons

 

Really, my recollection of most SS's back in the day were short guys like Rizzuto and Reese. Then we got the long and lanky type like Ernie who paved the way for the Belangers and Gene Michaels of the world. Then came big guys like Cal, A Rod and even Jeter.

 

Ernie really was a great player and man and while I only saw him at the end of his career he was still legendary at the time.

 

Still teary eyed,  

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http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1969/08/03/page/56/article/sincerely-ernie-banks

 

See the Sincerely, Ernie Banks in this archive.

 

Newspapers aren't the same anymore. This Sports page is bursting with box scores from baseball and football. Also the little advertisements scattered about.

 

One could really see how the rival teams were doing. 

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