Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[ALittleShelfish]

I'm sorry, Jill, but #11?  "Strive to learn to have complete self discipline over your flesh"?   So why bother with your performative mahhhhdesty?  If the men around you aren't actively trying to control themselves, maybe surround yourself with better men and then you would find yourself able to wear weather- and activity-appropriate apparel.  

I am perfectly happy in my little heathen world where I can wear pants and no makeup - and drink a glass of wine and eat all the cheetos I want - but thanks Jill. 

[crazy8s]

Last night I had a crazy dream that Samuel and Gabriel were working with a team of guys turning our backyard into a campground. Some guy appeared with a heavily perfumed letter from Brianne to hand deliver to Samuel. But the guy gave it to Gabriel as a joke. The brothers were both very embarrassed.

Sam tells us since he married Brianne, every time his mama tries to share some private/personal info about them or soc. media, Brianne uses one of those long hot glue sticks to crack mama on her hands as she types. Which makes jill stop typing and she doesn't post. (the glue sticks the fundies use for toddler obedience training.)

Also, our neighbor was having a yard sale. Jill tried to grift some free stuff. Neighbor waved her hand around like she was shooing insects flying by her head and said "where is that glue stick I keep around to drive the pests away?" Jill ran to her van, while wearing her mermaid skirt, and left. 😂

There was more and it was all really funny.

It wasn't our actual house, yard or our neighbor. 🤷‍♀️

[precious pupp]

I have to ask, what is the deal with glue sticks and toddler obedience training?  That's something I haven't heard about.

[libgirl2]

10 minutes ago, precious pupp said:

I have to ask, what is the deal with glue sticks and toddler obedience training?  That's something I haven't heard about.

Basically, you hit them with the gluesticks. 

[Salacious Kitty]

13 minutes ago, precious pupp said:

I have to ask, what is the deal with glue sticks and toddler obedience training?  That's something I haven't heard about.

I first heard about glue sticks from the Pearls in their book To Train Up A Child. Used on babies during blanket training and in potty training. Apparently, they don't leave a mark. 🙄

[CalicoKitty]

32 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I first heard about glue sticks from the Pearls in their book To Train Up A Child. Used on babies during blanket training and in potty training. Apparently, they don't leave a mark. 🙄

That's what I remember, too.  They are sturdy, have some flexibility and don't leave marks.

[crazy8s]

14 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I first heard about glue sticks from the Pearls in their book To Train Up A Child. Used on babies during blanket training and in potty training. Apparently, they don't leave a mark. 🙄

They don't leave a mark and are quiet. Maybe it was SHP where someone said that was the correction tool of choice in church if you were fidgety. Mom or older sister brought one of those down on your arm or leg. But that you could hear this swish in the air and knew someone was getting corrected.

David Keller was shown holding one at Nurie and Nathan's house not too long ago. It was in a video Jill post about the cousins playing.

Edited November 12 by crazy8s

[merylinkid]

1 hour ago, crazy8s said:

David Keller was shown holding one at Nurie and Nathan's house not too long ago. It was in a video Jill post about the cousins playing.

Which means they are still using the Pearl method.

No one Nemo doesn't try to run away but just looks horrified every time Mimi clutches him and screeches in his face, he knows he will get beat if he doesn't just take it.

[Salacious Kitty]

No wonder Nurie's boys seem lifeless. They've had the joy of childhood beaten out of them. 

[libgirl2]

4 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

No wonder Nurie's boys seem lifeless. They've had the joy of childhood beaten out of them. 

Its the fundie way

[crazy8s]

46 minutes ago, merylinkid said:

Which means they are still using the Pearl method.

No one Nemo doesn't try to run away but just looks horrified every time Mimi clutches him and screeches in his face, he knows he will get beat if he doesn't just take it.

Sadly he will be a "never complains" clone of his mother.

[Salacious Kitty]

24 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

Its the fundie way

Except for Janessa who is often seen misbehaving ON CAMERA. She's a spoiled brat.

[BetyBee]

I might be imagining Nathan holding the glue stick as a warning to Janessa, to leave his kids alone!*

*a girl can dream!

[Salacious Kitty]

1 minute ago, BetyBee said:

I might be imagining Nathan holding the glue stick as a warning to Janessa, to leave his kids alone!*

*a girl can dream!

Not happening with Jill. Janessa dragged Nemo through the play area at McDonald's recently. She was horrible to him. Neither Jill nor Nurie did anything other than record it. 

Edited November 12 by Salacious Kitty

[laurakaye]

On 11/11/2024 at 12:32 AM, ALittleShelfish said:

I am perfectly happy in my little heathen world where I can wear pants and no makeup - and drink a glass of wine and eat all the cheetos I want - but thanks Jill. 

Now I want wine and Cheetos for dinner.

Jill's Right Kind of Christian list smacks of someone who is feeling very high and mighty, believes that the election reflects positively on her, and is gleefully doing her selfless duty to share the ways in which you too can bask in the light that shines directly on Jill.  Maybe it's the timing but the entire thing rings false.

 

 

[CalicoKitty]

Considering the older Rod daughters spent time "visiting" the Pearls, I am not surprised that they are using Pearl methods.  Not surprised, but very sad.

[Salacious Kitty]

More holier than thou bullshit from Jill. 🙄

 

[Chalby]

Do any of the Duggars still have a show that'son tv? If they do, is it on a streaming platform? I have a full cable/TV package, but can't find any listing for Counting On, etc.

Maybe it's for the best that I can't find the show, given how many times I'd yell at the TV for the family's hypocricies. 

[Salacious Kitty]

It's definitely been scrubbed from TLC. You might have some luck with Counting On on You Tube. 

It's felon-free, but there's still plenty of hypocrisy. 

[Notabug]

9 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

More holier than thou bullshit from Jill. 🙄

 

She seems to forget the part where the 'Christian' says 'You are free to do it, but I support laws that will arrest you and toss you in jail if you do' Or 'You're free to do it but I will make sure you cannot ever marry your partner and that you cannot become a teacher or any one of a dozen other jobs'. It's the part she doesn't say aloud that is the kicker. And confirms that she absolutely is a hater who wants to control the lives of strangers.

 

Edited November 13 by Notabug

[BradandJanet]

That conversation is ridiculous. The Secular Person sounds like a child. Do any  of use feel a need to tell a Christian what we want to do so we can get their permission?

The Christian doesn't sound like Jill or anyone she knows. Jill's Christian would yell that if you do that you'll go to hell. And shout a lot of KJV bible verses out to "prove" they're right. 

The "conversation" is silly.  I'm also curious what was erased and overwritten. 

 

Edited November 13 by BradandJanet
missing word

[crazy8s]

1 hour ago, BradandJanet said:

That conversation is ridiculous. The Secular Person sounds like a child. Do any  of use feel a need to tell a Christian what we want to do so we can get their permission?

The Christian doesn't sound like Jill or anyone she knows. Jill's Christian would yell that if you do that you'll go to hell. And shout a lot of KJV bible verses out to "prove" they're right. 

The "conversation" silly.  I'm also curious what was erased and overwritten. 

 

 

[laurakaye]

So can I assume that Jill Rod is going to lecture the unwashed masses on how to be her kind of Christian from atop her mighty perch for the very long, foreseeable future?

I see that she that she wrote over "I want what's best for you."  Makes perfect sense - Jill doesn't want what's best for anyone except herself.  The rest of us can piss off.

What a shining example of a Christian she is.

Edited November 13 by laurakaye

[Salacious Kitty]

What I found astounding about that list was that it was reversed. Jill's Christians wouldn't be so open minded. 

[Heathen]

On 10/28/2024 at 8:04 PM, oliviabenson said:

Pumpkin blouse and a slimming skirt. Jesus.

$35 for that? Try $10-15.

It's an effing T-shirt! Not a blouse! 

I'm catching up on a few weeks of fundie BS (political worker here). Anything good happen while I was away? Did the Stepford Bateses freeze like rebooting bots? Did Jim Bob's hair crack? Is Nurie pregnant again yet? 

[merylinkid]

13 hours ago, Notabug said:

She seems to forget the part where the 'Christian' says 'You are free to do it, but I support laws that will arrest you and toss you in jail if you do' Or 'You're free to do it but I will make sure you cannot ever marry your partner and that you cannot become a teacher or any one of a dozen other jobs'. It's the part she doesn't say aloud that is the kicker. And confirms that she absolutely is a hater who wants to control the lives of strangers.

 

She also doesn't say the part she does say out loud as politely as she claims.  We've all seen her rants and screeching judgments about how others live their lives 

[BetyBee]

12 hours ago, Heathen said:

It's an effing T-shirt! Not a blouse! 

Further proof that Jill is willfully ignorant!

[laurakaye]

Jill has to be buying clothes and jewelry in bulk from someplace like Goodwill, or maybe she's one of those people who prowls around garage sales and pounces while the sellers are trying to set up and starts grabbing stuff and yells, "Ten dollars for everything in my arms!" and the sellers say OK just to get rid of her (I speak from personal experience as someone who used to have garage sales - you desperately want those people off your lawn).  Then Jill resells it for a markup.  Otherwise it makes no sense why she is unloading a crapton of clothes and jewelry when she still has several little girls who could wear those items in a couple of years.

[Notabug]

13 minutes ago, BetyBee said:

Further proof that Jill is willfully ignorant!

Well of course she is.  She could also refer to the garment as a top or a shirt and no one would bat an eye, but it wouldn't call enough attention to Jill's holier than thou approach to fashion.  She wants to be asked why she calls a tee shirt a blouse so that she can quote Deuteronomy for them.

Quote

The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Jill must always call attention to herself and calling a T shirt by its common name just won't do that.

[mythoughtis]

1 hour ago, Notabug said:

The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

It’s a ridiculous deception on her part.  It’s a WOMAN’s  t-shirt as it is.  Wearing it and referring to it correctly isn’t wearing men’s clothing.  

Edited November 14 by mythoughtis

[Lady Edith]

T-shirts are generally androgynous.  Problem #1.  Can’t wear anything that a man would, but they are so dang comfy!  What to do?  Change the name to something feminine! Same with the sweat blouse and baseball bonnet. 
 

Performative language at its best!!!

[MamaMax]

On 11/13/2024 at 11:11 AM, crazy8s said:

 

This is a blatant lie; you are all trying to use the law to make it so I am NOT free to do as I wish. 

I neither ask for your permission nor your blessing to live my life as I see fit. And UNLIKE YOU, making choice available does not ever prevent you from doing what YOU see fit.  It wouldn't force you to terminate a pregnancy, force you to use birth control, to seek gender affirming heath care, participate in a same sex marriage. 

But you have decided that YOUR religious convictions should dictate MY behavior.

 

[Notabug]

21 minutes ago, Lady Edith said:

T-shirts are generally androgynous.  Problem #1.  Can’t wear anything that a man would, but they are so dang comfy!  What to do?  Change the name to something feminine! Same with the sweat blouse and baseball bonnet. 
 

Performative language at its best!!!

Not to mention that, back in the time that Deuteronomy was written, men and women wore very similar clothing; except that the women wore veils or other head coverings and the men wore prayer shawls, usually under their outer garments with the tassels visible.

I don't see Jill covering her head with a veil and I don't see Dave with a prayer shawl; which both should be doing since they don't want to be mistaken for a man in her case or a woman in his.

[precious pupp]

3 hours ago, Notabug said:

Well of course she is.  She could also refer to the garment as a top or a shirt and no one would bat an eye, but it wouldn't call enough attention to Jill's holier than thou approach to fashion.  She wants to be asked why she calls a tee shirt a blouse so that she can quote Deuteronomy for them.

Jill must always call attention to herself and calling a T shirt by its common name just won't do that.

She reads here or Reddit.  She's calling them tops, now.  😀

51 minutes ago, MamaMax said:

This is a blatant lie; you are all trying to use the law to make it so I am NOT free to do as I wish. 

I neither ask for your permission nor your blessing to live my life as I see fit. And UNLIKE YOU, making choice available does not ever prevent you from doing what YOU see fit.  It wouldn't force you to terminate a pregnancy, force you to use birth control, to seek gender affirming heath care, participate in a same sex marriage. 

But you have decided that YOUR religious convictions should dictate MY behavior.

 

Perfect post that sums Judgmental Jill to a Tee (pun intended.)

These people are vile.  Don't dictate my beliefs.  They want to take rights away from those that don't worship at all or the way they say to.  😡

[PradaKitty]

Jill should just use the following description for each of her clothing sales posts:

”Here is a mismatched outfit, consisting of cheaply made ugly clothing plus a cheap piece of jewelry from the Goodwill collection. It is a size LARGE and is being modeled by my extremely thin daughter.”

[Notabug]

I was thinking about where Jill obtained this sudden avalanche of clothing to sell.  They were just on a grifting tour, I wonder if the 'sweet friends' at the churches they visited offered them clothing donations and Jill grabbed up everything they offered, all the while knowing that she would never wear used clothing and she could control access so the girls couldn't wear them either.

A lot of churches collect clothing to give to the poor or for victims of fires or natural disasters.  I could see Jill deciding that those donations were meant to benefit her.

[MamaMax]

50 minutes ago, PradaKitty said:

Jill should just use the following description for each of her clothing sales posts:

”Here is a mismatched outfit, consisting of cheaply made ugly clothing plus a cheap piece of jewelry from the Goodwill collection. It is a size LARGE and is being modeled by my extremely thin daughter.”

"The BLOUSE is an XXS and the skirt is an XL but who cares all clothes are one size fits all,  if you try hard enough!"

 

[laurakaye]

Hi, Jill!  You should go to the library (it's a big building with books) and check out the book "The Year of Living Biblically."  The author followed the Bible to the letter (within the boundaries of the law) to see if he could do it.  You might really like this, Jill - it's right up your alley as a member of the Best Christians Club!  But!  No Plexus.  Or makeup.  Or hair extensions.  No clothing of mixed materials.  No nail polish, toe rings, cowboy boots, baseball bonnets or luxury cruises.  No Olive Garden.  I say give it a try and see how long you last.  It could be fun!

Then come back and talk to us about how none of us are following the Bible as you interpret it - it's all right there, written down.  Follow those rules, Jill!  

Edited November 14 by laurakaye

[BradandJanet]

I believe Jill fits the biblical definition of a Pharisee. All show, no substance. 

 

[libgirl2]

2 minutes ago, BradandJanet said:

I believe Jill fits the biblical definition of a Pharisee. All show, no substance. 

 

I have been saying that for a long time. 

[EmeraldGirl]

How can anybody want to buy clothes that aren’t labeled with a size? Or at least she doesn’t tell what the size is. Hannah wore something that only said that the skirt was “taken in”. Taken in from what? 

[Salacious Kitty]

1 minute ago, EmeraldGirl said:

How can anybody want to buy clothes that aren’t labeled with a size? Or at least she doesn’t tell what the size is. Hannah wore something that only said that the skirt was “taken in”. Taken in from what? 

She does show labels with sizing on some of the pieces. 

As for Hannah's skirt, Jill pinned it so it wouldn't fall off her. She did that with several skirts, but let the girls swim in the Jill sized tops/blouses/whatever she's calling them now. 

[merylinkid]

Hair extensions, make up and nail polish are all gender affirming care.

As is Plexus to stay "trim."

[lookeyloo]

3 hours ago, laurakaye said:

Hi, Jill!  You should go to the library (it's a big building with books) and check out the book "The Year of Living Biblically."  The author followed the Bible to the letter (within the boundaries of the law) to see if he could do it.  You might really like this, Jill - it's right up your alley as a member of the Best Christians Club!  But!  No Plexus.  Or makeup.  Or hair extensions.  No clothing of mixed materials.  No nail polish, toe rings, cowboy boots, baseball bonnets or luxury cruises.  No Olive Garden.  I say give it a try and see how long you last.  It could be fun!

Then come back and talk to us about how none of us are following the Bible as you interpret it - it's all right there, written down.  Follow those rules, Jill!  

I loved that book. Especially since it was a social experiment and not a religious book. And hilarious. 

[Absolom]

2 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

I have been saying that for a long time. 

Second verse, same as the first.

[P2C2E]

On 11/14/2024 at 12:17 PM, laurakaye said:

Hi, Jill!  You should go to the library (it's a big building with books) and check out the book "The Year of Living Biblically."  The author followed the Bible to the letter (within the boundaries of the law) to see if he could do it.  You might really like this, Jill - it's right up your alley as a member of the Best Christians Club!  But!  No Plexus.  Or makeup.  Or hair extensions.  No clothing of mixed materials.  No nail polish, toe rings, cowboy boots, baseball bonnets or luxury cruises.  No Olive Garden.  I say give it a try and see how long you last.  It could be fun!

Then come back and talk to us about how none of us are following the Bible as you interpret it - it's all right there, written down.  Follow those rules, Jill!  

Or "A Year of Biblical Womanhood" by Rachel Held Evans. She understood and demonstrated how faith and true love/care for others could coexist. Her books are phenomenal and were an important part of my journey away from the church (and eventually faith altogether). She sadly passed away in 2019, but her influence on me will last for decades.

[Salacious Kitty]

Jill posted another video of dinner at the barndo. It consisted of the only thing she seems capable of making: sauerkraut and sausage with side of Mac and cheese and mixed veggies. 

What makes this video notable is that she showed the kids *dipping up," certainly an FU to the masses screaming at her to feed her kids. Of course, the teen girls and Renee had skimpy portions compared to Gabe who loaded his plate. Jill went last, which I am sure never happens when they're not filming. 

[mythoughtis]

7 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Jill posted another video of dinner at the barndo. It consisted of the only thing she seems capable of making: sauerkraut and sausage with side of Mac and cheese and mixed veggies. 

What makes this video notable is that she showed the kids *dipping up," certainly an FU to the masses screaming at her to feed her kids. Of course, the teen girls and Renee had skimpy portions compared to Gabe who loaded his plate. Jill went last, which I am sure never happens when they're not filming. 

I’m trying to understand why she put this to music- and what the song from Titanic had to do with a buffet style supper. 

Edited November 17 by mythoughtis

[oliviabenson]

2 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

I’m trying to understand why she put this to music- and what the song from Titanic had to do with a buffet style supper. 

Their toilets are about to go down after ingesting that sauerkraut and sausage! 

[oliviabenson]

Her little show off for SM buffet looked awful. Dry and unseasoned and I never seen anyone but Jill mix sauerkraut and sausage. 

 

Notice how Jill is clutching the hint water. Like any of her kids would take a sip. It's Jill special water. And apparently they don't use heat much because Jill is in her hoodie blouse.