Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[Salacious Kitty]

2 minutes ago, oliviabenson said:

Well you know Tim or Nathan paid. 

Or Jill dipped into the GFM. 

[farmgal4]

5 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

She can do this at home. She golfed/spied/taped the Amish. She really is fixated on the Amish for some reason.

Is it legal to drive a golf cart on the highway?

[Lisa418722]

5 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Or Jill dipped into the GFM. 

Nah, the GFM is for BME and GWE. She can't / won't share that money by doing anything for her kids.  

Edited August 9, 2022 by Lisa418722

[libgirl2]

6 hours ago, YupItsMe said:

Jill posted pics of “Adult couples night out” which included her & Hunk, Nurie & Nathan, and Tim and his date… Renee. Hee

Btw, Nurie’s hair looked very pretty.

(oh, we were posting at the same time.) 😁

Compare her hair to her Renee's and yes it looks healthy. 

Tim's "date". Honestly. 

[crazy8s]

4 hours ago, farmgal4 said:

Is it legal to drive a golf cart on the highway?

It would most likely depend on the county she is in. In our county, any vehicle driven on a public roadway way must be registered and have a license plate. Golf carts can only be driven by licensed drivers and children under 5 must be secured by a seat belt and wear a helmet.

[Turquoise]

Tim has gone from "dating" Nurie to Renee. Wonder if he'll still be around to date Janessa?

[Zebopzebop]

Tim must have paid… otherwise, why else would he have been included.  Why not the other actual couple (Kaylee and Jonathan)

[ozziemom]

Looks like Timbits is holding the bag of leftover food for the other Rodlets to share. Why must all Fundies refer to going out as a date? 

[galaxygirl76]

10 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

No update on ma either. So much for her crocodile tears and what not. Does she even remember she has a ma?

She will remember when she needs more $$$ to do fun things for herself. 

10 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

Now if she and Dave went to Italy now that’s something I’d watch videos of!

Their heads would explode if they went anywhere in Western Europe. Maybe they stumble onto a nude beach, now their reaction to that that I would watch. 

I see that (And Kaylee) doesn't matter if her other half isn't there to pay for things. 

[Notabug]

5 hours ago, farmgal4 said:

Is it legal to drive a golf cart on the highway?

Not on a highway, but at a lot of vacation-y type places, they can be driven on the roads.

They were vacationing in Amish country, lots of horse and buggy traffic, a golf cart is NBD.  

Just this past weekend, an Amish man in his 30's was killed and his little boy seriously injured when a car rear ended their buggy.  Happens all the time around here.

Edited August 9, 2022 by Notabug

[ginger90]

As of 2018 in Pennsylvania, that’s where they were:

From a state site: Golf carts can now travel on public roads, up to one mile under certain limited conditions, and cross highways even if the carts are not being used for a game of golf.  Anyone over the age of 12 can drive a golf cart; however, you must be 16 or older to cross a highway unless accompanied by an adult.

Maximum speed limits dictate what roads they can be on, and vary between 25, and 35mph. The rules can vary between city/county across the state.

[Notabug]

10 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

Now if she and Dave went to Italy now that’s something I’d watch videos of!

What could she do in Italy that she doesn't do here?  I've been a couple times and they don't seem to have any mini-golf or golf cart rentals.  I haven't seen people tubing in drainage ditches.  The Rods do the same stuff everywhere they go.

If JRod thinks US beaches are scandalous, she'd have a stroke at an Italian beach where virtually all the men are in teeny tiny speedos and many of the women are topless.  

As far as the culture of Italy, it's all Roman/pagan or renaissance/Catholic.  I guess she could go to Pompeii and gloat about how the Lord smited (smote?) all the godless heathens with lava.  She could go to a museum and see some beautiful artwork, but much of it is religious in theme and her sort of Christian seems to feel those are graven images.  A tacky plaque on the wall with a Bible verse is high culture and art, but Michaelangelo's David is pornography,  There is also amazing architecture in Italy, but much of it was build by the Catholic Church and there is no way she could risk eternal damnation by setting foot in St. Peter's Basilica.  The Sistine Chapel is just more graven images painted by heretical Catholics.  Jill likes those little Precious Moments angels that clutter her house; she has no appreciation for art created by people who worship the wrong Jesus.

[BetyBee]

22 minutes ago, Notabug said:

What could she do in Italy that she doesn't do here?  I've been a couple times and they don't seem to have any mini-golf or golf cart rentals.  I haven't seen people tubing in drainage ditches.  The Rods do the same stuff everywhere they go.

Those Eye-talians just don't know how to party like the Rodriguii! Does Italy even have a good Olive Garden? 😉

[merylinkid]

Jill would hate Italy if she thinks the Good Olive Garden is the height of Italian cooking.   

But why does she even go on vacations.   Its literally no different than when she is at home.   Someone else pays for the meals, they all hang out together, and they have devotions.   

[laurakaye]

10 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

Jill really loves this pose ! Elbows sticking out. I bet she wishes she was pregnant like Nurie! 

If one didn't know better, one would think this is totally a triple date.

Does the person who buys dinner get to take home the leftovers?  Otherwise that bag of food would be clutched in the sweaty hands of Big Daddy in the middle there, to save for his pre-bedtime snack.

[oliviabenson]

5 hours ago, Zebopzebop said:

Tim must have paid… otherwise, why else would he have been included.  Why not the other actual couple (Kaylee and Jonathan)

Jonathan didn’t go on the vacation. 

[libgirl2]

12 minutes ago, oliviabenson said:

Jonathan didn’t go on the vacation. 

I guess that means he is actually working. 

[oliviabenson]

13 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

I guess that means he is actually working. 

Or they broke up and he moved back home. 
 

Is it November yet? I want to see their wedding!

[the-grey-lady]

On 7/18/2022 at 6:31 PM, Cinnabon said:

Either Jill lies or exaggerates or it's a horribly run ICU

Jill lying and exaggerating is a given.

[the-grey-lady]

On 8/6/2022 at 8:50 AM, sagittarius sue said:

I think I've seen one or two where he's smiling.  Meme was not in the picture.

Meme probably wasn't in the same time zone.

[Nysha]

On 8/6/2022 at 1:49 PM, CalicoKitty said:

I totally agree.  Thin, pale, and poorly dressed.  The grift would be more difficult if they were happy, well-fed, clean, nicely clothed children.  I guess it is a good thing that they don't go to public school.  They don't know any different.  I understand that this is a large family, but as has been pointed out, there is "appropriate" clothing available for little cost.

On 8/6/2022 at 1:38 PM, Notabug said:

If you go to Target's website, there are 25 or so different maxi dresses for girls, too.  Now, many of them are sleeveless so JRod would insist on a T shirt underneath, but Target has those at a reasonable price.  I have come to believe that Jill dresses her kids to get donations and, that dressing them in inappropriate, too big, clothing plays up their urchinesque (is that a word?) looks.  As long as Jill feels it is profitable for her, those girls will be wearing clothes and shoes that don't fit.

I know this is what Jill believes. However, I think if her little girls were appropriately dressed in pretty clothing and her children looked healthy and content she would have a better grift. As long as they're wearing Target & Walmart nice clothing and shoes instead of Nordstrom people would believe this is a godly family and would want to bless them even though their playing sucks. Right now, the only people who come to their Sunday/Wednesday night performances are the people who always go to night services. The people who have money to give probably skip the show out of dislike for the performance or disgust for how badly the Rodlets are treated.

Edited August 9, 2022 by Nysha
I've spent the last 15 years proofreading papers and still forget to proofread before posting.

[farmgal4]

10 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

Compare her hair to her Renee's and yes it looks healthy. 

Tim's "date". Honestly. 

Renee’s hair is so damaged that there’s no way to repair it other than to give her a really short haircut, which will never happen as long as Jill is in charge.  

[oliviabenson]

[oliviabenson]

Oh goody crying poverty begging for food after the storm, go fund me etc… off to a restaurant for mommy and her besties for a meal.

does she realize that most working people don’t eat in restaurants as often as her family? Cash  Poor Rodrigues  my hiney. These people have more $ than they claim. 
 

6 people x $20 = $120

of course Jill got Dave a meal to go so another $20.

unemployed but living pretty well. 

[Salacious Kitty]

When will the churches that support them see the truth and pull the plug? I wonder how many sponsors they have these days?

[oliviabenson]

20 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

When will the churches that support them see the truth and pull the plug? I wonder how many sponsors they have these days?

So never!

[oliviabenson]

[crazy8s]

I wonder why Olivia is not included in the girls day out group or the little girlies group.

[all fall down]

27 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

I wonder why Olivia is not included in the girls day out group or the little girlies group.

She was in the video with the little girlies walking into the mill, but not in the pictures. Weird. 

[libgirl2]

5 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

Why are the little ones dressed up like that to play outside? I get it they dress modestly but those fancy dresses are not appropriate. 

Oh those eyebrows :(

[crazy8s]

5 hours ago, all fall down said:

She was in the video with the little girlies walking into the mill, but not in the pictures. Weird. 

I thought that was Hannah, not Olivia

[galaxygirl76]

At least the Duggar go to Silver Dollar City. These outings are just sad. Looking at an old historical mill with the youngest girls? I would have hated that at that age. 

[merylinkid]

7 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

Oh goody crying poverty begging for food after the storm, go fund me etc… off to a restaurant for mommy and her besties for a meal.

does she realize that most working people don’t eat in restaurants as often as her family? Cash  Poor Rodrigues  my hiney. These people have more $ than they claim. 
 

6 people x $20 = $120

of course Jill got Dave a meal to go so another $20.

unemployed but living pretty well. 

They went shopping too.   So more $$$.   Because Jill is always looking for a bargain.   You know what the best bargain is?   Not spending money on useless stuff.   You know she bought more tchotkes for the Barndo.   Not anything the family NEEDS, like food and clothing.   

I guess I need to discovery Dog so I can go on endless vacations too.

[libgirl2]

35 minutes ago, merylinkid said:

They went shopping too.   So more $$$.   Because Jill is always looking for a bargain.   You know what the best bargain is?   Not spending money on useless stuff.   You know she bought more tchotkes for the Barndo.   Not anything the family NEEDS, like food and clothing.   

I guess I need to discovery Dog so I can go on endless vacations too.

Yes, buy some nice clothes for your little ones. They look so sad in those ill fitting fancy dresses with t-shirts underneath. There are some very cute modest clothes options out there! No, but Jill  needs new stuff, meanwhile the little ones look like they live on the street. She is a bad mother. 

[Ohiopirate02]

8 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

When will the churches that support them see the truth and pull the plug? I wonder how many sponsors they have these days?

I've said this before, the answer to your first question is never.  Jill (and David) know the right angles to grift for Jesus.  The churches and individuals who have supported the Rods and who will continue to support them do so because that what Jesus tells them to do.  They sincerely believe they are Good Christians who are called to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, etc., but they do not want their precious dollars going to unsaved heathens.  They only want their money going to help people who believe in the Right Jesus (TM).  The people who support Jill are not victims by any stretch.  They are just as hateful and hypocritical as Jill is.  They don't care that Jill is always taking some sort of vacation or eating out while her kids fast because Jill is one of them.  They honestly believe it's better to give their money to Jill over their local food bank where (gasp) gay people or slutty single moms or Catholics may show up.   

[merylinkid]

11 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

The people who support Jill are not victims by any stretch.  They are just as hateful and hypocritical as Jill is.  They don't care that Jill is always taking some sort of vacation or eating out while her kids fast because Jill is one of them. 

I started watching the documentary the Family and this is kinda addressed in it.   Basically if you are God's Chosen, you can act any way you want because God has chosen you so it must be okay.   So in their world, Dog's favor means they are ENTITLED to endless vacations, because they have a full time ministry of spreading the word.  

[Ohiopirate02]

9 minutes ago, merylinkid said:

I started watching the documentary the Family and this is kinda addressed in it.   Basically if you are God's Chosen, you can act any way you want because God has chosen you so it must be okay.   So in their world, Dog's favor means they are ENTITLED to endless vacations, because they have a full time ministry of spreading the word.  

Yep. Jill and Co. are always evangelizing even on vacation.  The people who support Jill are the same ones who support other missionaries like Campus Crusade for Christ.  I had a roommate in college who belonged to that particular group.  They do a mission trip every year to Myrtle Beach where they "evangelize" on the beach.  There's also groups who are called to evangelize at amusement parks.  

[GeeGolly]

I have to think as the Rodlets fly the nest, the grifted money will decrease. There will be other 'needy' Fundy families who will replace the Rods.

Jill and David will grow poorer and poorer and as the kids expand their families they'll be strapped for cash too. IMO, the future doesn't look that bright for JillR.

[Ohiopirate02]

12 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I have to think as the Rodlets fly the nest, the grifted money will decrease. There will be other 'needy' Fundy families who will replace the Rods.

Jill and David will grow poorer and poorer and as the kids expand their families they'll be strapped for cash too. IMO, the future doesn't look that bright for JillR.

That is why Jill goes so hard on Facebook.  She has to show her pool of supporters that She is saving souls left and right, and also that her family is being persecuted for being Christian.  She's going to fight tooth and nail to keep the donations coming in versus some other family.  

I also wonder what Jill will do as her supporters die off.  Her target demographic skews Boomer.  She's not going to be able to keep this up as they get too sick to contribute.  Younger people do not have the funds to keep supporting Jill and Co. on top of their own families.  The invitations are going to dwindle every year as the churches on their circuit die off.  

[zoomama]

i really dislike seeing campus crusade for Christ and the rod family in the same sentence. two very different animals. 

[Ohiopirate02]

1 minute ago, zoomama said:

i really dislike seeing campus crusade for Christ and the rod family in the same sentence. two very different animals. 

I will admit to name dropping that group based on the particular chapter at my university in 1999.  They may have dressed better than the Rods, but their beliefs were just as hateful when you scratched the surface.  The group was a cult masquerading as a harmless religious club.  My roommate that was in it struggled with her classes that year and so did her friends  because CCC meetings were more important than studying for exams/homework/writing papers.  Also, I remember my roommate telling her friend that the summer mission trip to Dirty Myrtle was more important than the summer session her parents wanted her to attend.  Because missing the trip meant you dropped in status come fall semester.  The people in CCC that I encountered thought the group was more important than the degrees they were on campus to attain.  

[Trillium]

27 minutes ago, zoomama said:

i really dislike seeing campus crusade for Christ and the rod family in the same sentence. two very different animals. 

I’d argue that CCC is more dangerous. The Rods have a very limited reach and while they are very problematic, they aren’t converting many, if any at all (I’d wager most of Jillpm’s conversations are very young children, if not straight up lies for Jesus)  CCC is dressed up as a fun modern missions organization, however at its core it’s deeply connected to Focus on the Family, Family Research Council (the one that an infamous pedophile fundy worked for) and still far more effective at recruiting younger people. They are still against LGBTQ+ equality, anti-choice, and all the other things that make those organizations and the Rods problematic.

16 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I will admit to name dropping that group based on the particular chapter at my university in 1999.  They may have dressed better than the Rods, but their beliefs were just as hateful when you scratched the surface.  The group was a cult masquerading as a harmless religious club.  My roommate that was in it struggled with her classes that year and so did her friends  because CCC meetings were more important than studying for exams/homework/writing papers.  Also, I remember my roommate telling her friend that the summer mission trip to Dirty Myrtle was more important than the summer session her parents wanted her to attend.  Because missing the trip meant you dropped in status come fall semester.  The people in CCC that I encountered thought the group was more important than the degrees they were on campus to attain.  

We were posting at the same time! The campus the CCC missionaries at my church were at already heavily Christian areas. They want people to change to the “correct Jesus”  They just have better clothes and marketing than the Rods, and are ok with non-KJV Bibles.

Edited August 10, 2022 by Trillium

[BradandJanet]

Jill and David have devoted their lives to God by serving as domestic missionaries, who save at least two souls a year--including the fabulous Lord Daniel of the Laundromat. They're also pumped out and trained up 13 mini-warriors to spread out (or stay close to Mama) and multiply until their sheer numbers take over. They're uneducated and obedient. Oh, and they're WHITE and born in the good ole USA. 

As @Ohiopirate02 points out, the churches that the Rods visit with their singing tours are filled with people just as bad as Jill and David. Most are probably just as poor. 

One interesting thing about the Rods is that Jill is quite extra with her bleached hair and extensions, her inch-thick makeup, her love of restaurants, hotels, and pricey boutiques, her bossiness, and her camera always in somebody's face. I wonder how all that plays in their world of women's modesty and submission. 

[farmgal4]

5 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

Why are the little ones dressed up like that to play outside? I get it they dress modestly but those fancy dresses are not appropriate. 

Oh those eyebrows :(

“Baby” Janessa’s dress is way too long.  You can see her carrying the bottom of the dress when she walks.

Sophia’s sucking her thumb in one of the mill videos.  I’m surprised that Jill doesn’t make her stop when she’s filming.

In the Girl’s Day Out video at the restaurant, Jill shoves the phone in each girl’s face and each girl dutifully smiles, waves and giggles.  It makes me so uncomfortable watching them, because it’s more than obvious how embarrassing it is to each girl.  BME doesn’t give a damn about anyone else’s feelings, and it doesn’t bother her one iota to invade someone’s personal space.

5 hours ago, crazy8s said:

I thought that was Hannah, not Olivia

Hannah is Jill’s “dark” child. 😔

[Minivanessa]

2 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

That is why Jill goes so hard on Facebook.  She has to show her pool of supporters that She is saving souls left and right, and also that her family is being persecuted for being Christian.  She's going to fight tooth and nail to keep the donations coming in versus some other family.  

I also wonder what Jill will do as her supporters die off.  Her target demographic skews Boomer.  She's not going to be able to keep this up as they get too sick to contribute.  Younger people do not have the funds to keep supporting Jill and Co. on top of their own families.  The invitations are going to dwindle every year as the churches on their circuit die off.  

Thank you for this post and the others that shed light on the world the Rods live in. I was actually going to ask some questions that you've answered. I had thought that the Rods are firmly entrenched in their part of the IFB world, and are unlikely to be cast out because they mistreat their children and Jill's a nutjob who likes to dine out and shop. Good to know I was on solid ground about that.

As you noted, the looming issue is the dwindling of the congregations of the faithful as the Boomer (my) generation ages out.

Also, I have the idea that as these traveling missionary families go, the Rods aren't top drawer. Were you the one here who posted that excellent explanation of that, some time ago? IIRC, the idea is that the husband preaches and the family as a whole sings, and the wife is available to speak to women's groups. Because wimmin can't preach from the pulpit; that requires a penis. Anyway, I doubt that David is an outstandingly good preacher, and I'm sure the Rods aren't much as a musical group. I'd be surprised if over the years the word got out among their circle of churches after the Rods were there, "Wow, we had this guy preaching who just blew us away, and the music was fantastic!" IIRC Jill has spiced up their musical program with skits, etc. But although I don't follow her closely on SM, from what I've seen there, and here, they don't often play to a packed house, to say the least. If David were something special as a preacher, would they have done better in terms of bookings at churches, than they've done to date?

[Ohiopirate02]

10 minutes ago, BradandJanet said:

One interesting thing about the Rods is that Jill is quite extra with her bleached hair and extensions, her inch-thick makeup, her love of restaurants, hotels, and pricey boutiques, her bossiness, and her camera always in somebody's face. I wonder how all that plays in their world of women's modesty and submission. 

For starters, the fundie definition of modesty has little resemblance to the actual definition and also what's in the Bible.  Modesty for them is wearing skirts and covering knees and shoulders.  Jill's makeup and hair routine is A-OK in their world because it focuses the eye on a woman's countenance and not her body.  Elaborate hair and makeup routines are seen in many a fundie church on Sunday morning and Sunday evening and Wednesday evening. Her appearance is acceptable to other fundie women, and even if they think she's a bit over-the-top they will never admit it out loud.  She could very well be doing all of that because her headship requires it.   And these are good submissive women, they don't want to think about what a woman's husband may make her do lest they begin to question their own headship.  

Jill does know how to sprinkle in her posts out at pricier restaurants.  I have no desire to do a deep dive on her Facebook posts, but I suspect she's only going to those kind of places once a quarter at most.  No one is going to say anything about her treating herself every once and awhile.  The hotel trips are also a rare occurrence, and usually only involve her and David. Jill's followers believe she and David deserve their date nights and weekend getaways.  Raising 13 children to be upstanding God-honoring individuals is hard work after all.  I would also argue that the stores Jill shops in are not pricy boutiques.  She's white trash through and through.  She shops at rinky-dink little places and most are either thrift stores or glorified flea markets.  

Jill and Co. do keep on hitting up the same churches, so her bossy side must be kept in check during those visits.  How she acts out of the camera lens is really anyone's guess.  

[farmgal4]

5 hours ago, galaxygirl76 said:

At least the Duggar go to Silver Dollar City. These outings are just sad. Looking at an old historical mill with the youngest girls? I would have hated that at that age. 

Why wouldn’t the Rods take their kids to Silver Dollar City or some other places like that?  Because BME thinks there would be too many sinners there?

[Ohiopirate02]

1 minute ago, farmgal4 said:

Why wouldn’t the Rods take their kids to Silver Dollar City or some other places like that?  Because BME thinks there would be too many sinners there?

Jill is never going to pay to take her kids to an amusement park.  They only way any Rodlet will ever see one is if someone else pays for the trip.  

[farmgal4]

5 hours ago, merylinkid said:

They went shopping too.   So more $$$.   Because Jill is always looking for a bargain.   You know what the best bargain is?   Not spending money on useless stuff.   You know she bought more tchotkes for the Barndo.   Not anything the family NEEDS, like food and clothing.   

I guess I need to discovery Dog so I can go on endless vacations too.

It took me a couple of minutes to figure out who “Dog” was. 🤓

[Albanyguy]

3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I have to think as the Rodlets fly the nest, the grifted money will decrease. There will be other 'needy' Fundy families who will replace the Rods.

Jill and David will grow poorer and poorer and as the kids expand their families they'll be strapped for cash too. IMO, the future doesn't look that bright for JillR.

That’s when the sons-in-law will be expected to step up and send them a monthly check to support them in the style they’re accustomed to. Their own kids, of course, will be useless; the girls won’t be allowed to have jobs and the boys will never be able to earn enough to support themselves, much less their parents. It’s up to the girls to marry guys who can earn a decent living and are willing to pick up the tab. And if the sons-in-law ever balk, Jill will ladle on the emotional blackmail, beginning with “Honor thy mother and thy father” and ending with “My SEVERELY injured knee!”