Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[farmgal4]

Jill has a new picture on Facebook.  In it, Jill has her face practically glued to her mother’s face.  Jill has on a mask.  It’s pulled down below her chin.  F**king idiot.

[CalicoKitty]

3 hours ago, Notabug said:

It's a new term to ,me, too, and I've been to med school.  I presume she has a bacterial infection or something post op.  Poor lady, this is how it goes after major neurologic injuries though.

I think 'head glands' may refer to the lymph nodes in the head and neck which become swollen with infections.  Like the swollen glands we hear about when kids have tonsillitis and such.

I wonder if Jill's hour and half hair washing stint contributed to an infection.  Who knows what products (or how much hair spray) she used, or how careful she was around the wound.  I'm sure it did not help the situation.

[Absolom]

I'm fascinated by an ICU that is allowing what Jill claims to be doing.  Either Jill lies or exaggerates or it's a horribly run ICU.  We do have photographic documentation of some of Jill's abuses so I'm leaning to it's a place I never want to be in for medical treatment.  It's definitely not like any ICU any member of my family has been in.  My mother was time limited visiting step-dad even when they thought he was dying.  

[Notabug]

1 minute ago, Absolom said:

I'm fascinated by an ICU that is allowing what Jill claims to be doing.  Either Jill lies or exaggerates or it's a horribly run ICU.  We do have photographic documentation of some of Jill's abuses so I'm leaning to it's a place I never want to be in for medical treatment.  It's definitely not like any ICU any member of my family has been in.  My mother was time limited visiting step-dad even when they thought he was dying.  

From the photos she's posted, I'm not sure her mother is still in the ICU.  It looks like a regular patient room to me.  Might be a step-down unit which also usually looks like a regular hospital floor.

Edited July 18, 2022 by Notabug

[Absolom]

That might explain how Jill is getting away with so much.  Thanks.  It's still horrifying what she's doing, but the blame is on her.

I found Pa Noyes website for the septic business.  His hours were 1700 to 2200.  It seems he was maybe selling an add on to existing septic systems and doing it after regular office hours.  

[Nysha]

3 hours ago, Cinnabon said:

They could even give plasma for pay. They could make a few hundred a month, per person doing this. That adds up when you’ve got eleventy billion people in the family.

I do this when I visit my daughter every other weekend. It pays for the gas, traveling food, and treats for the grandkids. If we had a plasma place in my town I'd do it every week.

[louannems]

1 hour ago, Nysha said:

I do this when I visit my daughter every other weekend. It pays for the gas, traveling food, and treats for the grandkids. If we had a plasma place in my town I'd do it every week.

I’ve been donating plasma twice a week for nearly 8 years.  I haven’t done it for three months, since I needed to stop one month before my bilateral hip replacement surgery, 8 weeks ago.  But I was making $55.00, twice a week, so $410.00 monthly.

Even if Pat and Tim don’t have a Medigap Medicare supplement to cover out of pocket expenses, Medicare caps out of pocket to something like 7 thousand dollars per year.  Once you reach that, you pay nothing for the rest of the year. They should not have a catastrophic expense.

Edited July 19, 2022 by louannems

[Rabbittron]

I don't know why but I saw pictures looked like it was a mobile home to me as the first home was a mobile home that I bought. 

[oliviabenson]

I don’t think the Rodlings can spare any plasma. It would probably kill them. They are too malnourished! 
 

The girls should be working at the ivory cream booth. At least make some $ there. 
 

Ma and Pa Rodrigues can work in Walmart.

(who am I kidding no one is getting an actual job)

[Salacious Kitty]

I don't think they need anyone to man the ivory cream booth. All purchases are rung up at a central location from what I could tell. I wonder if she's still selling the book? They sold at least one copy a few months ago.

[Cinnabon]

2 hours ago, Absolom said:

I'm fascinated by an ICU that is allowing what Jill claims to be doing.  Either Jill lies or exaggerates or it's a horribly run ICU.  We do have photographic documentation of some of Jill's abuses so I'm leaning to it's a place I never want to be in for medical treatment.  It's definitely not like any ICU any member of my family has been in.  My mother was time limited visiting step-dad even when they thought he was dying.  

I agree. I am appalled at the kind of behavior the hospital appears to be allowing.

[GeeGolly]

27 minutes ago, Rabbittron said:

I don't know why but I saw pictures looked like it was a mobile home to me as the first home was a mobile home that I bought. 

The home is very similar to a double wide mobile home.

[galaxygirl76]

4 hours ago, CalicoKitty said:

I wonder if Jill's hour and half hair washing stint contributed to an infection.  Who knows what products (or how much hair spray) she used, or how careful she was around the wound.  I'm sure it did not help the situation.

She also had a plexus pink head band on her head and at one point there was a butterfly hairband on top of that. I doubt that helped much.

[oliviabenson]

15 minutes ago, galaxygirl76 said:

She also had a plexus pink head band on her head and at one point there was a butterfly hairband on top of that. I doubt that helped much.

Yeah the 2 hats are squeezing mas brain… is the hats so everyone can see ma is a woman? 

[galaxygirl76]

If I had to guess, and it's really scary to think like Jill, it's to cover up the shaved spot since Jill had zero interest in cutting all mom's hair off and has been 'taking care' of the rest of the hair.

[riverblue22]

I thought I read that Pa Noyes was now working at Walgreens.  Maybe it came to me in a Rodrigues nightmare?

ETA:  Just stopped by FB and saw the pictures.  Jill put eyeliner on her mom!  She is nuts! Her mother is in serious condition and she is confusing the situation with makeup and haircare--next she will decide to touch up her  mother's gray roots with a little hair dye!

Edited July 19, 2022 by riverblue22

[oliviabenson]

She said not that many adult grandkids that can give $. 9 are over 18. Apparently grifting is the only way to go. 

Edited July 19, 2022 by oliviabenson

[Salacious Kitty]

3 minutes ago, riverblue22 said:

I thought I read that Pa Noyes was now working at Walgreens.  Maybe it came to me in a Rodrigues nightmare?

Pat works(ed?) at Rite Aid.

[Salacious Kitty]

4 minutes ago, oliviabenson said:

She said not that many adult grandkids that can give $ 

How does Jill know what the "haters" think? She doesn't allow comments on FB from anyone other than friends, and she doesn't allow comments on IG at all. 

[oliviabenson]

She reads here and Reddit would be my guess.

And Jill keeps referring to her mom in the past tense… nice to know that Jill doesn’t think she will make it.

Jill your mom is alive quit saying my mom was etc.

[merylinkid]

Ma has 4 daughters who could work.  But sure NINE adult grandkids are not enough.  But then your kids over 18 have no cash to spare because they are supporting you 

[Salacious Kitty]

1 minute ago, merylinkid said:

Ma has 4 daughters who could work.  But sure NINE adult grandkids are not enough.  But then your kids over 18 have no cash to spare because they are supporting you 

Kaylee and Renee have to step up the earring production. 😂

[Tigregirl]

Hi Jill (since we know you read this).  In most of the families I know, the children started getting part time jobs around the age of 16 or 17 and still managed to be successful students.  One or both parents work so they can feed their children, and dress them in clothes and shoes that fit.  They also don’t travel all over the country, yet beg for money to “recover” from a storm, only to go spend 3 days in a hotel for a convention.  They don’t constantly ask for “love offerings”, money to buy their kids a car or send them to college, or to replace a car after an accident.  That’s the beauty of these things called “jobs” - you get paid on a regular basis for the work you do.  You use that paycheck to pay bills, buy groceries, household supplies and clothing (that fits), hopefully save some and hopefully on occasion do something fun like a vacation or a special dinner out.  Do some people with jobs still struggle?  Of course.  But I still don’t know anybody who asks for money as much as you do.  I have family members who have had serious health issues with large medical bills, as have I.  But guess what.  We paid our bills without begging for donations.  We set up payment plans with the hospital, and having a job meant we could make a monthly payment, even if it was a small one that month. So maybe you and your “hot hunk” should look into that.  Your teen aged and adult children too.  As far as I know, you all should be capable of working somewhere and bringing in some money that could help your parents.  
 

You may have noticed, Jill, that you aren’t getting as many donations as you probably think you should have.  You should sit back and really think about why that is.  You may find that people have grown tired of your constant begging when you seem to be able to fill the RV with gas and frequently travel, when you often post pictures of you enjoying dinner in a restaurant, when your makeup budget seems unlimited and when we never see you in the same outfit twice but your youngest daughters never wear clothes or shoes that fit or are appropriate for the weather.  So, sorry, Jill, but no donation from me.  You and David and your oldest children need to find jobs so you can all learn the importance and dignity of supporting yourselves.

[ginger90]

Pesky haters.

[merylinkid]

6 hours ago, Tigregirl said:

the children started getting part time jobs around the age of 16 or 17 and still managed to be successful students.

Well its not like her homeschooling takes all the much time anyway.   Those kids have PLENTY of time for part-time jobs.   But we know that will never happen.   Jill will keep trying to grift and then complain those "heathens" hate her because they don't give her money.

[Notabug]

11 hours ago, Cinnabon said:

I agree. I am appalled at the kind of behavior the hospital appears to be allowing.

I'm not sure they're actually 'allowing' it.  Does anyone think Jill asked for permission to wash and style her mother's hair?  That the staff recommended a mani-pedi and full makeup for her semi-conscious mother?  I suspect that she never bothered to run it past the staff, just showed up and did whatever she wanted.

Hospital staffs are underpaid and overworked these days.  It is not their job to babysit grown-assed adults and tell them not to mess with mommy's hair after brain surgery.  Even if they had, Jill wouldn't have listened anyway.  Short of physically removing her from the premises and filing a restraining order, there really is almost nothing they can do. Do you think Jill's father, her mother's voice while she is incapacitated, objected to Jill's mommy makeover?  Or that he would've agreed with staff stopping her physically?  There's no way mere words from a doctor or nurse would've been enough to prevent Jill from assaulting her mother with shampoo and Maybelline.  Hospital visitors do stupid stuff all the time; we see it every day.  The nurses and other staff can only advise people, warn them, suggest.  

Ever since her mother's surgery, Jill has been obsessed with the surgical drain in her head, she has mentioned it in almost every post.  I suspect it bugs her to no end to see it and she has her grimy paws all over it 'adjusting' it for Mama's comfort all the time.  I hope, when the infection developed, someone on the staff at least pointed out to Jill that a major source of infection with surgical drains is over-handling them.  Leaving them alone and touching only when necessary is the safest way to deal with them.

Edited July 19, 2022 by Notabug

[GeeGolly]

JillR should also be told that secondary infections contribute greatly to hospital deaths.

[Notabug]

10 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Ma has 4 daughters who could work.  But sure NINE adult grandkids are not enough.  But then your kids over 18 have no cash to spare because they are supporting you 

Jill's sister, Amy, is a quadriplegic; so I think its ok if she doesn't work.  Her husband does seem to work, though, and she doesn't seem to need to grift and beg like Jill does, so her family seems to be able to support themselves, as do the families of Jill's sisters.

However, presuming Amy's family is perhaps stretched to the max financially; there is no reason that the other 3 adult children and adult grandkids couldn't contribute to grandma and grandpa's support during this time.  In times of trouble, most families band together and maybe forego a few little luxuries to help one another out.  If each adult daughter, other than Amy, contributed $100 a month to their parents while each adult grandkid gave $25, it seems to me that it would go a long way towards easing the burden and shouldn't be a huge financial outlay for any of them.

Of course, between Jill and her sisters, they've got 34 kids, almost 9 apiece.  This is only because Amy became quadriplegic shortly after her 6th kid was born or there would be several more by now.  Perhaps the reason they cannot afford to help their parents with basic life needs is because they have selfishly insisted on having baby after baby that they couldn't afford.

Instead, we've got Jill demanding that strangers send $5 apiece to her parents while she contributes nothing.  In just the past few months, she has told us that she needs money for her son's tuition, a car for her son, storm cleanup, and now for her parents.  Tens of thousands of dollars.  Yet, not one single word from her as to what she and her husband are doing to provide for these needs,  It is all about others giving to her while she buys makeup by the gallon, never wears the same outfit twice, and buys cheap extensions and vats of peroxide for herself.  Her sense of entitlement is beyond belief.

Edited July 19, 2022 by Notabug

[BetyBee]

9 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

She said not that many adult grandkids that can give $. 9 are over 18. Apparently grifting is the only way to go. 

Jill is such a horrid, selfish, lazy grifter! This makes me so angry! I think that when you are begging for money, with no explanation of how it is spent or who gets the $$ (it's her and we know it!), then you do need to explain! I also think it's quite likely that she is harming her mother with all of her handling of her mother's hair, face and nails and the constant picture taking. It's just wrong in so many ways!

[ginger90]

Jill wearing a mask on her chin with her cheek against her mother’s, suggests to me, there is a mask rule. Yet, except for the mask on Jill’s chin, there isn’t one picture with anyone wearing one at all.

[Notabug]

3 minutes ago, BetyBee said:

Jill is such a horrid, selfish, lazy grifter! This makes me so angry! I think that when you are begging for money, with no explanation of how it is spent or who gets the $$ (it's her and we know it!), then you do need to explain! I also think it's quite likely that she is harming her mother with all of her handling of her mother's hair, face and nails and the constant picture taking. It's just wrong in so many ways!

Most people would think that 9 grandchildren over the age of 18 IS a ton!  I worked at Burger King in high school way back in the 70's and even I could've come up with 25 bucks a month to help my grandparents if the need arose.  And I was making 2 bucks an hour!

For that matter, I was one of 6 kids, my dad's business was failing, my youngest sister was just a little baby and I did give part of every pay to my mother to help with the bills.  More than 25 bucks a month, in fact.  I don't need to brag about it, I was no saint, sometimes it pissed me off that I didn't have as much spare cash as my friends; but it is what people do.

Jill, and her sisters it seems, have done their children no favors by not expecting them to pull their own weight and earn their own money.

[Notabug]

1 minute ago, ginger90 said:

Jill wearing a mask on her chin with her cheek against her mother’s, suggests to me, there is a mask rule. Yet, except for the mask on Jill’s chin, there isn’t one picture with anyone wearing one at all.

The mask rules in hospitals only apply to public spaces.  Once you are in the patient's room, the rules do not apply and masks are optional. However, most visitors are cognizant of the risks of COVID and the vulnerability of their sick loved ones and wear the masks and sanitize their hands and are generally very respectful of the rules even when they are alone.

There is no hospital in the entire world that is so well staffed that an employee can stand in every patient's room during visiting hours and enforce a mask mandate.  Jill's family needs someone in her mother's room 24/7 to prevent them from behaving like stupid jackasses.  There is not enough money in the world to pay someone to do that.

[ginger90]

1 minute ago, Notabug said:

The mask rules in hospitals only apply to public spaces.  Once you are in the patient's room, the rules do not apply and masks are optional. However, most visitors are cognizant of the risks of COVID and the vulnerability of their sick loved ones and wear the masks and sanitize their hands and are generally very respectful of the rules even when they are alone.

There is no hospital in the entire world that is so well staffed that an employee can stand in every patient's room during visiting hours and enforce a mask mandate.  Jill's family needs someone in her mother's room 24/7 to prevent them from behaving like stupid jackasses.  There is not enough money in the world to pay someone to do that.

Then Jill should be removing her mask properly, washing her hands,  and not wearing it on her chin, up against her mother.

[Notabug]

26 minutes ago, BetyBee said:

Jill is such a horrid, selfish, lazy grifter! This makes me so angry! I think that when you are begging for money, with no explanation of how it is spent or who gets the $$ (it's her and we know it!), then you do need to explain! I also think it's quite likely that she is harming her mother with all of her handling of her mother's hair, face and nails and the constant picture taking. It's just wrong in so many ways!

It is certainly not helping her mother and it is, quite frankly, an invasion of her mother's privacy and an affront to her personal dignity for Jill to not only take photos but to post them on a public website when her mother is unable to consent.  If I were in her mother's situation, I would not want my picture posted all over the web.

[charmed1]

She doesn’t even understand how much of a privilege it is to be in the hospital room with her mom. My mother was in the hospital during the peak of the shutdown and I had to wait in the parking lot. I have friends whose parents were having major surgery during that time and they were not allowed in. We were trying to figure out who we knew that worked at the hospital so that they could check on our parents and pass messages back and forth. Still, I know how fortunate I am compared to those who had to say goodbye to their dying loved ones over Zoom or FaceTime these past few years. The fact that she can’t be bothered to even put on a mask to protect her mother’s very fragile health is mind blowing.

Edited July 19, 2022 by charmed1

[Rabbittron]

Why is it that every time I read or hear Kalees middle name I always hear or read it as asparagus. 

[Tigregirl]

5 hours ago, Notabug said:

It is certainly not helping her mother and it is, quite frankly, an invasion of her mother's privacy and an affront to her personal dignity for Jill to not only take photos but to post them on a public website when her mother is unable to consent.  If I were in her mother's situation, I would not want my picture posted all over the web.

When my mom was in the hospital for the last time before her passing, I never would have considered taking pictures, much less posting them anywhere.  We sat by her bedside and spoke to her when she tried to talk and prayed along with her when she tried to say The Lords Prayer.  I didn’t style her hair or do her makeup and nails.  It was profoundly emotional and for family only, and her last days were not mine to post on social media.  I know we don’t know Pat’s prognosis and if she is in danger of passing soon but even so what a horrible invasion of privacy.

Edited July 19, 2022 by Tigregirl
Typo correction

[Notabug]

1 hour ago, charmed1 said:

She doesn’t even understand how much of a privilege it is to be in the hospital room with her mom. My mother was in the hospital during the peak of the shutdown and I had to wait in the parking lot. I have friends whose parents were having major surgery during that time and they were not allowed in. We were trying to figure out who we knew that worked at the hospital so that they could check on our parents and pass messages back and forth. Still, I know how fortunate I am compared to those who had to say goodbye to their dying loved ones over Zoom or FaceTime these past few years. The fact that she can’t be bothered to even put on a mask to protect her mother’s very fragile health is mind blowing.

I went to visit my neighbor, who was dying of ovarian cancer, because she was lonely with no visitors except her husband.  I even tried to convince her best friend to let me sneak her in (a name badge and a white coat gets you almost anywhere) to visit, but she didn't want to break the rules.  I have two friends who lost parents to COVID and were unable to see them face to face until their final minutes.

Jill is just a reprehensible human being.

[Cinnabon]

3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

JillR should also be told that secondary infections contribute greatly to hospital deaths.

But if mama gets an infection, it won’t be the Rods’ fault. She will blame the hospital and/or other patients/their families. 

[Cinnabon]

2 hours ago, charmed1 said:

She doesn’t even understand how much of a privilege it is to be in the hospital room with her mom. My mother was in the hospital during the peak of the shutdown and I had to wait in the parking lot. I have friends whose parents were having major surgery during that time and they were not allowed in. We were trying to figure out who we knew that worked at the hospital so that they could check on our parents and pass messages back and forth. Still, I know how fortunate I am compared to those who had to say goodbye to their dying loved ones over Zoom or FaceTime these past few years. The fact that she can’t be bothered to even put on a mask to protect her mother’s very fragile health is mind blowing.

My dad died in December 2019, right before Covid. I’m glad he died then, instead of a few months later when we wouldn’t have been able to visit him. He wouldn’t have understood. And even then, because he was so sick (COPD and RSV (a virus like Covid), WE had to wear masks when we visited, both in his hospital room and later in his room in a nursing home, to protect him from further infections. Both facilities had masks available right outside the doors to his rooms. We certainly took no pictures of him while he was sick. I hope Jill’s kids take lots of pictures of her when she is old and dying and post them all over SM.

Edited July 19, 2022 by Cinnabon

[Natalie68]

15 hours ago, louannems said:

I’ve been donating plasma twice a week for nearly 8 years.  I haven’t done it for three months, since I needed to stop one month before my bilateral hip replacement surgery, 8 weeks ago.  But I was making $55.00, twice a week, so $410.00 monthly.

Even if Pat and Tim don’t have a Medigap Medicare supplement to cover out of pocket expenses, Medicare caps out of pocket to something like 7 thousand dollars per year.  Once you reach that, you pay nothing for the rest of the year. They should not have a catastrophic expense.

Woah!  That is some decent coin!  

Seeing what medical stuff costs I am so glad I have decent insurance.  My employer also started offering AFLAC so I got that in the event of a catastrophic illness.  I honestly would rather be over insured that under.  So scary!

[Ljohnson1987]

Jill.. We don't care  that your kids can't contribute to your (I mean your Mom's?) GFM.  We do care that you're a grifter, and an irresponsible mask wearer in a medical setting. 

[Cinnabon]

Who thinks Jill will expect her grown children (and their children) to help support her when she and/or David is older and ill?

[Ljohnson1987]

12 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

Who thinks Jill will expect her grown children (and their children) to help support her when she and/or David is older and ill?

I'm sure it'll be whoever is not married job. Probably an unmarried daughter. 

[Cinnabon]

36 minutes ago, Ljohnson1987 said:

I'm sure it'll be whoever is not married job. Probably an unmarried daughter. 

I meant financially as well. She’ll expect them all to fund her as needed.

[beckie]

2 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

I meant financially as well. She’ll expect them all to fund her as needed.

Might be Tim. I doubt he'll ever be married or live anywhere else but where he is now.

I hope I'm wrong, but don't think I am.

[merylinkid]

50 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

Who thinks Jill will expect her grown children (and their children) to help support her when she and/or David is older and ill?

what do you mean when older and ill?   She already expects it.   Not sure what Tim is actually doing but you know a big chunk of any money he does earns goes to BME and GWE.   Jonathan isn't even family yet and he is already springing for things for everyone.   

Apparently ebil government is only ebil for other people.   Medicaid to pay hospital bills are just fine.   Of course Jill can't grift from that so she has to do the GFM and the other send "support" direct so she can take THAT money.

[clueless101]

I’m proud to be one of the ‘haters’ because I commented “ Beg,beg,beg” on her IG post yesterday.  

[GeeGolly]

32 minutes ago, clueless101 said:

I’m proud to be one of the ‘haters’ because I commented “ Beg,beg,beg” on her IG post yesterday.  

This deserves multiple reaction emojis.

[BradandJanet]

22 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

Who thinks Jill will expect her grown children (and their children) to help support her when she and/or David is older and ill?

9 minutes ago, Ljohnson1987 said:

I'm sure it'll be whoever is not married job. Probably an unmarried daughter. 

I expect Jill will keep a surplus daughter at home to take care of her, Hunk, and the house. The married children will take care of them financially, although without any education or work skills and a dozen kids each of their own to support, there will never be enough money to go around. Still, Jill and Hunk will demand a nice lifestyle while their grandchildren go without. That's what narcissists and their enablers do.