Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[SMama]

It’s going to need a lot of TLC. They are young and if Jonathan has carpentry skills they should be able to make it work. I dread to think what Jill will do to that house. 

[awaken]

2 hours ago, crazycatlady58 said:

I think it is cute but I tend to favor older homes..yes even as old as this. I would insist on good insulation but other than that I could live with it.

Agree- I think it looks perfectly cute for a young couple, and not in terrible shape. 

[merylinkid]

How did they afford a house already?    They were going to be living in that hideous basement (maybe the sweet couple he was renting from saw Jill's "renovations" and kicked him out.) I thought.    Isn't Phillip his boss?   Phillip who is now in school.    

Of COURSE Jill will decorate it to her taste and it will be horrible.    Jill will claim that they BEGGED her to decorate it for them because Bestest Mamma ever has the bestest taste.

[BradandJanet]

Poor Jill. Not only does she have Kaylee's wedding to take over and ruin, Nurie's baby to deliver in Florida, and her own very special anniversary to celebrate all month, now she has Kaylee and and Jonathan's house to fill with tacky treasures. That means lots of shopping and eating out. All of this is on top of the usual singing tours, grifting, vacation planning, and Plexus shilling to keep her silver star. That's a lot for a woman her age. She'll need to drink up her own Plexus stock just to stay on her feet. At least she has a house full of servants to help.

[SMama]

1 hour ago, merylinkid said:

How did they afford a house already?    They were going to be living in that hideous basement (maybe the sweet couple he was renting from saw Jill's "renovations" and kicked him out.) I thought.    Isn't Phillip his boss?   Phillip who is now in school.    

Jill said Jonathan is Phillip’s boss.

[Notabug]

11 hours ago, awaken said:

Agree- I think it looks perfectly cute for a young couple, and not in terrible shape. 

I think it is fine for a young couple just starting out.  It will look better once they dump the old people furniture; but, knowing BME, they'll probably end up with worse.

The kitchen looks to be a nice size and not in terrible shape.  Something needs to be done with the bathrooms, but not an urgent need, IMO.

It needs some updating and remodeling, but it doesn't look awful to me.  There are plenty of people living in similar housing in that area.  It looks like the sort of house people built by themselves back in the 1800's.  

Edited October 19, 2022 by Notabug

[Minivanessa]

I remember that a bunch of the Rod family descended on Nurthan's first house and did some "redecorating" that included what appeared to be a messy paint job on the kitchen cabinets. I wouldn't be surprised if BME meddles with Not-Nurie's nearby house just as much. Or more, since it's so near the Barndo. Maybe David will use some of his many wonderful skilz to do some remodeling. *snert*

[GeeGolly]

I love me a fixer-upper, but not one with antique wiring and lead pipes. Lets hope someone updated that already.

[Salacious Kitty]

2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I love me a fixer-upper, but not one with antique wiring and lead pipes. Lets hope someone updated that already.

The pipes in the bathroom were exposed. 

[Teriacky]

Dear God! Who staged this place??!

[ginger90]

8 minutes ago, Teriacky said:

Dear God! Who staged this place??!

It was a rental, so the tenants did. 😁

[Salacious Kitty]

8 minutes ago, Teriacky said:

Dear God! Who staged this place??!

The "master bedroom" was especially egregious. 

[SMama]

The patio chairs in the dining room are something else.

Edited October 19, 2022 by SMama

[crazy8s]

The patio chairs, the flyswatter on a hook on the kitchen wall and the extension cord running from the ceiling fan in the dining room to a wall outlet, made it sort of endearing to me in an odd way. We have a bunch of nieces and nephews in the first house/first rental stage of life and I can picture any or all of them doing all 3 in a home and being totally happy with it.

I think of our first apt and furniture and yikes was it bad. the patio chairs just might have been a better option 😂

the blurb on zillow also mentioned a wood burning stove that had to be removed for renters that was included with the house and could be re installed.

"Great starter home on just under a quarter acre in Triway school district. Situated at the end of a dead end access road with four total parcels. Hard to find a property in this price range out in the country that doesn't require fixes to move in but this one is in fine shape. Original hardwood floors in the main living area. Dining room used to have a coal/wood burning stove when it was not a rental but had to be removed. It is still stored on the property and will stay so new owner could hook that back up. Kitchen is delightfully spacious and offers lots of cabinet and counter space. Laundry is located right off of the kitchen along with both baths. Furnace is newer and uses fuel oil. Two window air units adequately cool the living space and will stay with the property along with all kitchen appliances plus washer and dryer. Why rent when you could own for less?"

[merylinkid]

11 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

Triway school district.

Somehow I don't think the school district was a selling point for these folks (yes I know its from the listing).   We all know none of those kids will let their kids go to public school.   They will raise another generation of illiterate, uneducated idiots.

[oliviabenson]

Can’t wait to see what kind of electrical work upgrades David will do. And Jill will PAINSTACKINGLY cover the entire house in SEVERELY cheap/ugly decorations. 

[all fall down]

9 hours ago, merylinkid said:

How did they afford a house already?    They were going to be living in that hideous basement (maybe the sweet couple he was renting from saw Jill's "renovations" and kicked him out.) I thought.    Isn't Phillip his boss?   Phillip who is now in school.    

I don't think the basement was ever intended for Kaylee. It was temporary accomodations for Jonathan after he moved to Ohio from Mississippi  so he could have someplace cheap (free?) to stay while he worked and saved his money for a house, by the time he married Kaylee. 

[Salacious Kitty]

9 hours ago, merylinkid said:

How did they afford a house already?    They were going to be living in that hideous basement (maybe the sweet couple he was renting from saw Jill's "renovations" and kicked him out.) I thought.    Isn't Phillip his boss?   Phillip who is now in school. 

Jonathan is Phillip's boss. IF Phillip is still working, that is. We have no clue about that or what they actually do.

[riverblue22]

That house is going to need a lot of Rodrigues help.  The roof looks terrible~

[Cinnabon]

Surely they didn’t pay cash for the house? Aren’t they against debt?

[ginger90]

14 minutes ago, riverblue22 said:

That house is going to need a lot of Rodrigues help.  The roof looks terrible~

It’s a metal roof that looks like it’s been neglected.

[Salacious Kitty]

9 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

Surely they didn’t pay cash for the house? Aren’t they against debt?

The Rods have a mortgage. 

And it looks like a mortgage on this place would be dirt cheap with 20% down.

[libgirl2]

It reminds me of the first house my best friend and her husband bought.  It looks outdated and old. The rooms were so tiny. It had no closets, there was like one outlet per room.  The insulation was poor due to it originally being a summer home (we live in the midwest) and I remember the bathroom had a VERY low ceiling. My husband had to crouch down to use the toilet. It did have a big yard going for it but it was on a very busy road with truck traffic. 

They managed to live there about 3 years. When there second child was born, they outgrew it. 

Edited October 19, 2022 by libgirl2

[BradandJanet]

5 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I love me a fixer-upper, but not one with antique wiring and lead pipes. Lets hope someone updated that already.

I hope they had a professional inspection (and I don't mean by David) to uncover any dangers or expensive repairs. 

I looked on Zillow at properties in the area. Housing is very cheap compared with where I live. There are bigger houses in the 30k-40k price range in Wayne County, but I didn't see any photos of the interiors or the surroundings. $85,000 could mean a better location or indicate significant updates. I hope Jon and Kaylee didn't pay a premium to be close to BME. 

[crazy8s]

when Jill was blabbering about them getting the house at whichever grift event, people on reddit thought she said the house was being bought with a mortgage at a 7% int rate. I doubt Jonathan has any credit history so maybe that is why it would be so high.

but the taxes are low and Jonathan has seemed to be working since he moved to Amish country. Who knows what he had saved up prior to that. Maybe he "has been burdened on being financial secure for a finding a wife" for years and saved any money for that goal rather than taking flying lessons or traveling with a family grifting show like the Rod boys have done.

[Lady Edith]

I have a thought. Maybe one of the conditions of BME and hunk accepting this “arrangement” was that Kaylee has to live within so many miles of the Barndo so BME can continue to  be a blessing  keep Kaylee in servitude. I hope Jonathan puts his foot down and tells Kaylee that he will not allow her mother to run their lives, beginning with what occurs in HIS home.  If the married Duggar kids and Nurie are any indication, the notion of the husband being the head of the family is bogus.  The parents run the show.  They are mini cults, never letting their brood “escape” to their own married lives. They have to continue to serve Ma and Pa for the rest of their lives. Because where the idea of headship ends, the “honor your father and mother” kicks in. There is no end to the control put on these kids. It’s close to a life sentence.  

[coconspirator]

21 hours ago, awaken said:

Agree- I think it looks perfectly cute for a young couple, and not in terrible shape. 

It's an older home but most of what it appears to need is cosmetic. New flooring in the kitchen, paint the cabinets, do some landscaping outside, and maybe a fresh coat of exterior paint and it will be fine. Looks like someone is/was living there and I assume if there are electrical or plumbing issues the seller will have to fix it as part of the inspection (or reduced the price). For 85,000 it's decent sized and the lot is spacious.  Buying a cheaper home and putting some sweat equity into it makes sense for a young couple who will almost certainly need to survive on one income.

[oliviabenson]

If you want look up that account/post on Facebook. Jill is selling plexus… woman is frightening just a warning.

[Triple P]

4 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

It reminds me of the first house my best friend and her husband bought.  It looks outdated and old. The rooms were so tiny. It had no closets, there was like one outlet per room.  The insulation was poor due to it originally being a summer home (we live in the midwest) and I remember the bathroom had a VERY low ceiling. My husband had to crouch down to use the toilet. It did have a big yard going for it but it was on a very busy road with truck traffic. 

They managed to live there about 3 years. When there second child was born, they outgrew it. 

So Kaylee and John will be moving about the time kid number eight is born.

[oliviabenson]

3 hours ago, coconspirator said:

It's an older home but most of what it appears to need is cosmetic. New flooring in the kitchen, paint the cabinets, do some landscaping outside, and maybe a fresh coat of exterior paint and it will be fine. Looks like someone is/was living there and I assume if there are electrical or plumbing issues the seller will have to fix it as part of the inspection (or reduced the price). For 85,000 it's decent sized and the lot is spacious.  Buying a cheaper home and putting some sweat equity into it makes sense for a young couple who will almost certainly need to survive on one income.

More like half of one income. Half will be spent on mahmo and poppy.

[BradandJanet]

10 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

More like half of one income. Half will be spent on mahmo and poppy.

The Hills will somehow be paying for a good portion of the wedding and a nice party for Jill and David's anniversary. Then Jonathan will pay for Jill to buy ugly stuff and "decorate" the house. He'll also have to buy plane tickets to Florida for Jill and a daughter or two to accompany her. At least, Nathan will be stuck with the expenses once JRod  and crew hit the ground in Florida. 

Once he's married to the Rodrigues family, Jonathan will be lucky if he gets to keep half of his earnings. If he's smart, he'll find someone at his job to court Renee.

[Ljohnson1987]

Kenna Joy Bates was born on 10/17. 

[ginger90]

[zoomama]

 also saw that kim plath ( the mother) was arrested this morning for DUI and other issues. shes got troubles. 

Edited October 20, 2022 by zoomama

[ginger90]

Just now, zoomama said:

saw that!  also saw that kim plath ( the mother) was arrested this morning for DUI and other issues. shes got troubles. 

I wonder what Jill will say about that.

[Salacious Kitty]

8 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

I wonder what Jill will say about that.

She'll probably go on a "I'm a better Christian than you" rant. Kind of like what she did to the family friends who started wearing pants.

[skatelady]

22 hours ago, Lady Edith said:

I have a thought. Maybe one of the conditions of BME and hunk accepting this “arrangement” was that Kaylee has to live within so many miles of the Barndo so BME can continue to  be a blessing  keep Kaylee in servitude. I hope Jonathan puts his foot down and tells Kaylee that he will not allow her mother to run their lives, beginning with what occurs in HIS home.  If the married Duggar kids and Nurie are any indication, the notion of the husband being the head of the family is bogus.  The parents run the show.  They are mini cults, never letting their brood “escape” to their own married lives. They have to continue to serve Ma and Pa for the rest of their lives. Because where the idea of headship ends, the “honor your father and mother” kicks in. There is no end to the control put on these kids. It’s close to a life sentence.  

Lol. Not likely. I mean, I'm sure he was specifically selected for the honor of marrying whatshername because he, uh, has no feet. 

[oliviabenson]

Dave has like 5 pieces of clothing 🤣. 
 

Nuri looks exhausted poor thing is leaning against the wall. But the grifting show must go on! 

[Salacious Kitty]

Speaking of grifting, they're back in PA this weekend for another "old fashion" revival. There's even a costume contest in which the winner gets a King James Bible! 

[oliviabenson]

59 minutes ago, zoomama said:

 also saw that kim plath ( the mother) was arrested this morning for DUI and other issues. shes got troubles. 

Jill will no longer be friends with Kim.

[ginger90]

25 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Speaking of grifting, they're back in PA this weekend for another "old fashion" revival. There's even a costume contest in which the winner gets a King James Bible! 

I almost don’t want to know, where in PA?

[oliviabenson]

28 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Speaking of grifting, they're back in PA this weekend for another "old fashion" revival. There's even a costume contest in which the winner gets a King James Bible! 

I picture Jill wearing a human size phallic plexus bottle as a costume and big bunny years so everyone knows she is a lady 

[Salacious Kitty]

4 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

I almost don’t want to know, where in PA?

Rochester. I have no clue where that is.

[ginger90]

1 minute ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Rochester. I have no clue where that is.

It’s near Pittsburg, and nowhere near me, thankfully. 😁

[crazy8s]

Surely David is there for the "feast of smoked DEER, HAM and TURKEY!"

[farmgal4]

2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

They dined at Bonefish Grill.  They easily dropped $50 or more on that meal.  I think they probably blew through at least $1000 on that 25th Anniversary Extravaganza vacay.  How?  How the hell are they getting that kind of money, with all of the other expenses that come with being homeowners, vehicle owners, having 11 kids at home, traveling the country in an RV that probably gets 10 miles/gallon of gas, at least partially paying for a wedding in November, and I’m sure that I’m not listing every expense that they must have.  There’s no freaking way that they’re getting that much money from churches love offerings and Jill’s Plexus “business”!  Are they robbing banks?  Selling drugs?  David’s pimping?  Jill’s dancing/stripping?  I want to know, damnit! 😤

[ChiCricket]

On 10/19/2022 at 7:35 PM, coconspirator said:

It's an older home but most of what it appears to need is cosmetic.

  If I found the correct property, it was built in1850!  So, 171 years old? 🤔 

   My house is 95 years old, and when we bought it the electric wires were kind of paper-clothish covered...When we started replacing the wiring( after some problems) the electrician was amazed it had never caught fire. 😂 

  But, everything else has stood up very well. Houses used to be built really well back then. So maybe the "bones" of their house are OK, and just needs cosmetic upgrades. 

[oliviabenson]

44 minutes ago, farmgal4 said:

They dined at Bonefish Grill.  They easily dropped $50 or more on that meal.  I think they probably blew through at least $1000 on that 25th Anniversary Extravaganza vacay.  How?  How the hell are they getting that kind of money, with all of the other expenses that come with being homeowners, vehicle owners, having 11 kids at home, traveling the country in an RV that probably gets 10 miles/gallon of gas, at least partially paying for a wedding in November, and I’m sure that I’m not listing every expense that they must have.  There’s no freaking way that they’re getting that much money from churches love offerings and Jill’s Plexus “business”!  Are they robbing banks?  Selling drugs?  David’s pimping?  Jill’s dancing/stripping?  I want to know, damnit! 😤

Cooking drugs in the upstairs attic? Lol

You have a point where are they getting that kind of $? They living like 2 income household making $500,000 a year 

[oliviabenson]

Umm Jill and Dave aren’t dating they are married lol

Jill looks her age no one would mistake her for a young girl 

[Salacious Kitty]

1 hour ago, farmgal4 said:

They dined at Bonefish Grill.  They easily dropped $50 or more on that meal.  I think they probably blew through at least $1000 on that 25th Anniversary Extravaganza vacay.  How?  How the hell are they getting that kind of money, with all of the other expenses that come with being homeowners, vehicle owners, having 11 kids at home, traveling the country in an RV that probably gets 10 miles/gallon of gas, at least partially paying for a wedding in November, and I’m sure that I’m not listing every expense that they must have.  There’s no freaking way that they’re getting that much money from churches love offerings and Jill’s Plexus “business”!  Are they robbing banks?  Selling drugs?  David’s pimping?  Jill’s dancing/stripping?  I want to know, damnit! 😤

Just $1000? Don't forget the nice hotel and a rental car driven from Ohio. Gas. Sea World. Nice meals. 

But yeah, is grifting really that profitable? And when are her poor suckers going to wake up?