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[goofygirl]

On 4/14/2023 at 2:37 PM, snarts said:

With Raquel in a mental health facility, where is Graham?

At Grandpa's house, probably.

On 4/14/2023 at 4:22 PM, albarino said:

I'm scratching my head about this.  First, do we believe this is an inpatient facility or is she in some sort of an outpatient/intensive outpatient program?  My vote is on the latter--I don't think you can check yourself into an inpatient facility like it is a stay at a Hilton.  

Second, so what?  She is some sort of program.  I'm glad she is getting the help she thinks she needs but it does not change my opinion of her.  

 

Actually, I think it's a "wellness retreat".  Not really a mental health facility at all.

[Marley]

Sandoval looks creepy in that pic with Billie Lee. He always has this weird ventriloquist smile lol.

I saw on TMZ they are saying Ariana is dating some Daniel Wai or they are at Coachella together. I have no idea who he is tho lol.

[CallmeCray]

1 hour ago, ZettaK said:

Sandoval was seen with Billie Lee (the former SUR employee). He shaved his mustache. 

That’s the BEST thing that’s happened since the shit hit the fan.

[ZettaK]

On 4/16/2023 at 10:33 PM, Marley said:

Sandoval looks creepy in that pic with Billie Lee. He always has this weird ventriloquist smile lol.

I saw on TMZ they are saying Ariana is dating some Daniel Wai or they are at Coachella together. I have no idea who he is tho lol.

I think he is just a companion (for now) to show Sandoval. He is a personal trainer. Sandoval was at Coachella too.

Edited April 18, 2023 by ZettaK

[Gharlane]

12 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Sandoval was seen with Billie Lee (the former SUR employee). He shaved his mustache. 

I guess Billie figures this is a good way to get back on the show. 😃

[Shauna]

On 4/5/2023 at 8:58 AM, FozzyBear said:

I mean…Ally being an aspiring reality star trying to date her way into a popular show makes more sense then dating James for his personality, or looks, or career success, or any other attribute of his. 

Not to mention that Ally doesn't seem into James at all.  Unlike James who is overly trying to fawn all over Ally, I believe, to stick it to Rachel. 

[Vivigirl10]

On 4/13/2023 at 11:13 AM, JenE4 said:

As I said above, I just watched the entire podcast. It was obvious that Howie didn’t “do his homework.” He had no idea about any of the cast of characters on this show.

I watched until about the last 15 minutes when I couldn't stomach anymore.  I don't know who I actually found more bothersome; Sandoval or HOWIE.  Shouldn't he have bothered to have done a smidge of educating himself before this interview?  "Who's Scheana??" (it was almost like he thought he was being cute).  Heck, he could have just had his daughter prep him.  But no....he goes in knowing absolutely nothing and takes Sandoval's self-forgiving version of events as the Bible.  "You're a good human.  This is perfectly understandable".  Completely missing the entire point of the level of betrayal of Ariana by her boyfriend and "friend".  I wanted to throw something at Howie through the tv screen (and knock those stupid glasses off his face at the same time).  

On 4/14/2023 at 8:34 AM, FozzyBear said:

Jax was an asshole then and he’s an asshole now, but was he wrong? I think he might have been the only one who really got Sandoval. 

I saw this clip of Jax being interviewed where he actually gave some good feedback on Sandoval....like go away and stop talking.  Also apologize.  The hilarious thing is that simultaneously, Jax seemed to be espousing the belief that all "real men" cheat and that if you're a "good" man, you apologize for your bad behavior.  I was about cracking up.  Jax gotta Jax.  

[princelina]

4 hours ago, Kiki620 said:

I saw this clip of Jax being interviewed where he actually gave some good feedback on Sandoval....like go away and stop talking.  Also apologize.  The hilarious thing is that simultaneously, Jax seemed to be espousing the belief that all "real men" cheat and that if you're a "good" man, you apologize for your bad behavior.  I was about cracking up.  Jax gotta Jax.  

Also - Jax has had a grudge against Sandoval ever since Jax slept with Sandoval's girlfriend and refused to apologize for it.  And for being the #1 guy in this group!

[RoseAllDay]

On 4/15/2023 at 3:42 AM, Gharlane said:

If memory serves, Raquchel's father did not approve of her relationship with DJ Muppet Baby. I kinda remember her father wanted to punch him in the face.

Nope, he did not. At the engagement party he made some crack to Lisa about having a hole dug in his yard. Lisa actually asked if he was joking. He then pretty much admitted his dislike of James. He disapproved of James from the get-go, which is kind of funny, how seeing how his sweet Rachel is turning out.

I get the sense that Dad was always riding James’s ass about something. Can’t do that to James for too long before he blows.

13 hours ago, princelina said:

Also - Jax has had a grudge against Sandoval ever since Jax slept with Sandoval's girlfriend and refused to apologize for it.  And for being the #1 guy in this group!

That’s why I’m passing on this “Watch With Brittany and Jax” crap. It will be nonstop Jax gloating with Brit’s inane laugh. I see from the promos they still have the little dog. Is that the one that kept shitting in the room at Kentucky Castle?

[Gharlane]

45 minutes ago, RoseAllDay said:

I get the sense that Dad was always riding James’s ass about something. Can’t do that to James for too long before he blows.

I guess that means James blowing up at her parents wasn't a random alcohol or drug related incident? 

[RoseAllDay]

2 hours ago, Gharlane said:

I guess that means James blowing up at her parents wasn't a random alcohol or drug related incident? 

I’m sure at least alcohol was involved given that this supposed blowup happened over the holidays. Dad was always clear that he thought his little girl was too good for James. Yeah, I don’t think any parent would be thrilled to see James sitting at their table, but if the kid is of an age to make her own decisions…

[ZettaK]

9 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

Nope, he did not. At the engagement party he made some crack to Lisa about having a hole dug in his yard. Lisa actually asked if he was joking. He then pretty much admitted his dislike of James. He disapproved of James from the get-go, which is kind of funny, how seeing how his sweet Rachel is turning out.

I get the sense that Dad was always riding James’s ass about something. Can’t do that to James for too long before he blows.

That’s why I’m passing on this “Watch With Brittany and Jax” crap. It will be nonstop Jax gloating with Brit’s inane laugh. I see from the promos they still have the little dog. Is that the one that kept shitting in the room at Kentucky Castle?

Jax and Brittany got lucky because Scandoval brought them back to NBC (Peacock and Bravo are owned by NBCUniversal). I have no idea why anybody would think they would be great to comment about other reality personalities. 

[Lady of nod]

On 4/13/2023 at 11:04 AM, RoseAllDay said:

https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/howie-mandel-defends-sandoval-interview-claps-back-at-andy-cohen/

Apologies if this has already been posted. I quickly checked but didn’t see it. 

An Andy and Howie feud. I liked this: 

The Jackhole title is richly deserved. Sandoval clearly played Mandel.

Actually Andys a jackhole most of the time. I think he’s jealous that Mandel got the interview   

 

 

 

[RoseAllDay]

12 minutes ago, Lady of nod said:

Actually Andys a jackhole most of the time. I think he’s jealous that Mandel got the interview   

 

 

 

Good point.

[JenE4]

This fancy-ass Miraval Resort is where Rachel was rumored to be staying, which her rep denied. But it turned out that’s where Tom went? Were they both there? Is he “taking the heat” for her—or rather she took the heat first but I was really him there? But I don’t think he would be stupid enough to put himself being there if she was really there too. The post he’s referring to was cryptic enough—and could just be cashing in on the rumors that Rachel was there instead of a real mental health facility.

Tom Sandoval blasts wellness resort for outing his stay: 'Tried to find peace'
"They'd rather feed into the negativity and spectacle that has engulfed my life," Sandoval wrote on his Instagram Story of Miraval Arizona.

Read in Page Six: https://apple.news/AOM4ZwxANQCeqZ2GKb9DAKA

 

Edited April 18, 2023 by JenE4

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, JenE4 said:

This fancy-ass Miraval Resort is where Rachel was rumored to be staying, which her rep denied. But it turned out that’s where Tom went? Were they both there? Is he “taking the heat” for her—or rather she took the heat first but I was really him there? But I don’t think he would be stupid enough to put himself being there if she was really there too. The post he’s referring to was cryptic enough—and could just be cashing in on the rumors that Rachel was there instead of a real mental health facility.

Tom Sandoval blasts wellness resort for outing his stay: 'Tried to find peace'
"They'd rather feed into the negativity and spectacle that has engulfed my life," Sandoval wrote on his Instagram Story of Miraval Arizona.

Read in Page Six: https://apple.news/AOM4ZwxANQCeqZ2GKb9DAKA

 

Miraval was visited by the New Jersey Housewives and their husbands several seasons ago, as well as the cast of Real Housewives of Orange County, so of course, they would be perfetly fine with leaking information about Sandoval, another D-list Bravolebrity (who is making A-list headlies) staying there.  Other individual Real Housewives have also stayed there, including Sonja Morgan (when recovering from plastic surgery), Carole Radziwill and Heather Thompson.

Miraval is not a mental health care facility.  It is a zen spa-like upscale resort with some interesting programs for "spiritual healing" - equine therapy, crystal readings, astrology and even some kind of healing through bee-keeping.

From Miraval's website:

"From beekeepers to tarot card readers to artists and chefs, our skilled specialists illuminate a path to a better you. They listen closely and guide you on a custom journey that breaks down barriers and invites your best self to shine."

I don't know if Raquel is also there, but I was wondering if this is where she was or they were headed when the paps caught the recent photos of Tom and Raquel at the airport (after she supposedly spent the night at his house).

[goofygirl]

Of course they are there together!  And this is not some mental health facility, this is where Kelly Dodd put that gong and Shannon Beador's head!  It looks really pretty but good old tarot card reading, gongs, and peace circles does not mean Rachel's catching any good MENTAL HELP.  She's probably finding herself through making risotto or something.

[ZettaK]

36 minutes ago, goofygirl said:

Of course they are there together!  And this is not some mental health facility, this is where Kelly Dodd put that gong and Shannon Beador's head!  It looks really pretty but good old tarot card reading, gongs, and peace circles does not mean Rachel's catching any good MENTAL HELP.  She's probably finding herself through making risotto or something.

I don't know when he was at Miraval (the specific one is in Arizona) because he was in Coachella, and then he was photographed with Billie Lee in Los Angeles yesterday. Billie Lee spent the night at his house, and she left this morning in the same clothes she was wearing yesterday. So, I doubt he is with Raquel right now, or was some days ago. 

https://realityblurb.com/2023/04/18/billie-lee-sandoval-home-same-clothes/

[JenE4]

Ok, guys, I’m starting to get really embarrassed about how much I’m posting about Scandoval. It seems that my Apple News feed algorithm has become all Scandoval all the time. The fact that there are multiple new tidbits every day is still keeping me clicking!

We knew he brought Rachel home for Christmas, but his parents refused to meet her. Now the added detail is that he supposedly tried to break up with Ariana before that but his family thought it was too soon. Then they went back to St Louis in January and they were forced to go to Tom’s mom’s house when the bar they were at closed due to bad weather and they spent the night together there! Mom was “cordial” but met her under duress.

Tom Sandoval's mom 'knew about' affair, met Raquel Leviss in January: report
The "Vanderpump Rules" star's first encounter with her co-star's mother Terri took place during her second visit to his hometown of St. Louis in Missouri.

Read in Page Six: https://apple.news/ASnpYMdAJQVaZohIfThiB1Q

[Gharlane]

23 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

That’s why I’m passing on this “Watch With Brittany and Jax” crap. It will be nonstop Jax gloating with Brit’s inane laugh. I see from the promos they still have the little dog. Is that the one that kept shitting in the room at Kentucky Castle?

I was not aware of Brittany and Jax having a show and have no interest in watching it. 

 

12 hours ago, JenE4 said:

This fancy-ass Miraval Resort is where Rachel was rumored to be staying, which her rep denied. But it turned out that’s where Tom went? Were they both there? Is he “taking the heat” for her—or rather she took the heat first but I was really him there? But I don’t think he would be stupid enough to put himself being there if she was really there too. The post he’s referring to was cryptic enough—and could just be cashing in on the rumors that Rachel was there instead of a real mental health facility.

Tom Sandoval blasts wellness resort for outing his stay: 'Tried to find peace' "They'd rather feed into the negativity and spectacle that has engulfed my life," Sandoval wrote on his Instagram Story of Miraval Arizona.

Read in Page Six: https://apple.news/AOM4ZwxANQCeqZ2GKb9DAKA

If what Schwartz said is true and still in effect, Sandoval had to get his Raquchel "fix".

 

8 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Billie Lee is Seen Leaving Tom Sandoval’s Home in Clothes From Previous Night, Slams Kristen’s Friendship With Ariana as “Fake and Performative”

Obviously, Billie Lee is upset about being busted for being a fame whore. BTW, am I the only one who was reminded of Johnny Depp by Sandoval in that article's photo of him?

[RoseAllDay]

So today Bravo is giving us the backstory on Oliver, by rerunning last season’s horrendous RHOBH.

14 minutes ago, Gharlane said:

I was not aware of Brittany and Jax having a show and have no interest in watching it. 

 

If what Schwartz said is true and still in effect, Sandoval had to get his Raquchel "fix".

 

Obviously, Billie Lee is upset about being busted for being a fame whore. BTW, am I the only one who was reminded of Johnny Depp by Sandoval in that article's photo of him?

It’s only on Peacock at the moment, but I’m sure it will be on Bravo at some point. If they’re going to do shows with running commentary, they should bring back The People’s Couch.

Edited April 19, 2023 by RoseAllDay

[RoseAllDay]

Not going to comment on Rachel entering the mental health facility. But so on brand for Sandoval to take himself to Coachella. 

[bosawks]

1 hour ago, Gharlane said:

I was not aware of Brittany and Jax having a show and have no interest in watching it. 

 

54 minutes ago, RoseAllDay said:

It’s only on Peacock at the moment, but I’m sure it will be on Bravo at some point. If they’re going to do shows with running commentary, they should bring back The People’s Couch.

Now that I know this travesty exists I am totally going to give it a shot.

But if Jax isn't the petty little bitch that I know he is capable of I am out!

[carrier76]

4 hours ago, JenE4 said:

Ok, guys, I’m starting to get really embarrassed about how much I’m posting about Scandoval. It seems that my Apple News feed algorithm has become all Scandoval all the time. The fact that there are multiple new tidbits every day is still keeping me clicking!

We knew he brought Rachel home for Christmas, but his parents refused to meet her. Now the added detail is that he supposedly tried to break up with Ariana before that but his family thought it was too soon. Then they went back to St Louis in January and they were forced to go to Tom’s mom’s house when the bar they were at closed due to bad weather and they spent the night together there! Mom was “cordial” but met her under duress.

Tom Sandoval's mom 'knew about' affair, met Raquel Leviss in January: report
The "Vanderpump Rules" star's first encounter with her co-star's mother Terri took place during her second visit to his hometown of St. Louis in Missouri.

Read in Page Six: https://apple.news/ASnpYMdAJQVaZohIfThiB1Q

I’m from St. Louis, and I’m dying to know where they have been hanging out.

[goofygirl]

13 hours ago, bosawks said:

 

Now that I know this travesty exists I am totally going to give it a shot.

But if Jax isn't the petty little bitch that I know he is capable of I am out!

What ELSE is Jax gonna be than a petty little bitch? Other than this scandal, what's he got to talk about???

[princelina]

16 hours ago, JenE4 said:

We knew he brought Rachel home for Christmas, but his parents refused to meet her. Now the added detail is that he supposedly tried to break up with Ariana before that but his family thought it was too soon.

So they advised him to continue cheating on her?  Nice move, Sandoval's family! 🙄

[goofygirl]

6 minutes ago, princelina said:

So they advised him to continue cheating on her?  Nice move, Sandoval's family! 🙄

I doubt that's how it went.  If I were his Mom, I'd be asking for monthly payments of say $2K a month to pay back that $250K she threw in for S&S.  Like.. immediately. Before he throws away her entire retirement money.

I knew this lady who thought her kid was SO SMART and not only invested her retirement $$$ but her HOME and the kid (of course) lost it all.  Lady is now 78 years old and still working just to keep a roof over her head and her shit in the closet.  Otherwise, she'd be living under a bridge.

The kid has moved to another state.

[princelina]

1 minute ago, goofygirl said:

I doubt that's how it went.  If I were his Mom, I'd be asking for monthly payments of say $2K a month to pay back that $250K she threw in for S&S.  Like.. immediately. Before he throws away her entire retirement money.

I knew this lady who thought her kid was SO SMART and not only invested her retirement $$$ but her HOME and the kid (of course) lost it all.  Lady is now 78 years old and still working just to keep a roof over her head and her shit in the closet.  Otherwise, she'd be living under a bridge.

The kid has moved to another state.

So she's telling him not to break up with her until she gets some of her investment back?  While he's still cheating?  Nice move, Sandoval's family!

[goofygirl]

17 minutes ago, princelina said:

So she's telling him not to break up with her until she gets some of her investment back?  While he's still cheating?  Nice move, Sandoval's family!

She just wants to not have to live under a bridge when she's 75. Whatever it takes!

[ZettaK]

34 minutes ago, princelina said:

So she's telling him not to break up with her until she gets some of her investment back?  While he's still cheating?  Nice move, Sandoval's family!

No, that's a hypothetical scenario. 

Edited April 20, 2023 by ZettaK

[princelina]

The original quote was that his family didn't want him to break up with Ariana "because it's too soon" - but they knew he was cheating with Raquel.  Nothing about that makes them look good.

Edited April 20, 2023 by princelina

[Gharlane]

23 hours ago, JenE4 said:

We knew he brought Rachel home for Christmas, but his parents refused to meet her. Now the added detail is that he supposedly tried to break up with Ariana before that but his family thought it was too soon.

What do they mean by "too soon"? Was this after Ariana's father or dog died?

[JenE4]

7 hours ago, princelina said:

So they advised him to continue cheating on her?  Nice move, Sandoval's family! 🙄

 

7 hours ago, princelina said:

So she's telling him not to break up with her until she gets some of her investment back?  While he's still cheating?  Nice move, Sandoval's family!

 

6 hours ago, princelina said:

The original quote was that his family didn't want him to break up with Ariana "because it's too soon" - but they knew he was cheating with Raquel.  Nothing about that makes them look good.

 

58 minutes ago, Gharlane said:

What do they mean by "too soon"? Was this after Ariana's father or dog died?

Gah! No! Sorry! Mom didn’t say it was “too soon” to break up…or too soon after their investment to rock the boat. I just had a really poorly written post! It was too soon for them to want to meet Raquel in December/January! Sandoval claims he tried breaking up with Ariana many times, but they never stuck. But to his family and friends (outside the cast), they all knew he already moved on—whether or not he was still in some type of relationship with Ariana. Ariana, of course, still thought she was in a solid relationship. Mom was angry about what Tom was doing and how he was treating Ariana. She wanted nothing to do with meeting Raquel, but a snowstorm forced her to stay at Mom’s house with Tom.

ETA: Sorry!  “Soon” isn’t even used in the article. Here’s a quote: Terri knew all about the affair, and “wasn’t cool with their situation,” however she was “cordial” when meeting Leviss.

Edited April 20, 2023 by JenE4

[RoseAllDay]

Catching up on all the posts…

Miraval…LOL. Is everything product placement with Bravo? I didn’t know that this was the place where Kelly gonged Shannon and “concussed” her, LOL.

I really would have liked to have been a fly on the wall during Rachel’s snowstorm  visit with Mom.

[IntrovertRed]

On 4/19/2023 at 5:54 AM, JenE4 said:

We knew he brought Rachel home for Christmas, but his parents refused to meet her. Now the added detail is that he supposedly tried to break up with Ariana before that but his family thought it was too soon. Then they went back to St Louis in January and they were forced to go to Tom’s mom’s house when the bar they were at closed due to bad weather and they spent the night together there! Mom was “cordial” but met her under duress.

If I was Tom's mom [perish the thought], I would have said, either you tell her or I tell her.  I certainly would have refused to meet her too. And I would be seriously pissed off at my son for being suck a lying asshole. Thought I don't doubt they've seen it before.  I always tell my son, I love you, but I'll turn you in if you commit a crime or murder, etc. Obviously, I watch too much true crime in addition to Bravo.

Tom is so much like my ex, they are such good liars and manipulators. It's not often you get to see it play out in front of the cameras so I find it both disgusting and fascinating at the same time.  My ex's family always thought that I was the cause of my ex's bad behavior (or really basically anything they didn't like that he did).  So much so that my ex's mother is probably be thrilled to see her beloved son with whatever woman he is with.  No matter that he's a shit person and father.  No respect for putting up with their son and still somehow raising their grandkids to be well-adjusted and mature, etc.  Oh lord, I feel the need for a therapy session.

I wasn't a fan of Schwartz before, however, I despise him now too because he is clearly also a master manipulator and gaslighter.  The 'charm' is all an act and that is evident when he interacts with Katie.  I loved how she is not engaging with him and moving on. The fact that he expected her to stop and chat about his business doesn't surprise me. 

It's also a little crazy because I finding myself enjoying Scheana more now too.  What is going on?!!

[ZettaK]

Tom Sandoval didn't go to Miraval, but he posted photos on Thursday people think are from the Canyon Ranch Resort (a Wellness Spa) by Tucson, Arizona. He left LA on Wednesday. He hiked, tried archery, etc.

https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/7922657/vanderpump-rules-tom-sandoval-luxe-wellness-resort-photos/

Edited April 26, 2023 by ZettaK

[goofygirl]

Wherever he goes, whether it $1200/night or not, he's still an incredible ass douchecanoe. The.End.

[albarino]

Why isn't Tom in LA working on his businesses?  Has he already given up and resigned himself to losing them?  Otherwise, as a co-owner or investor, I'd be pretty pissed he is AWOL so he can find his own inner peace or something.  

Tom really deserves every bad thing that happens to him......Icarus much?

[Marley]

Billie Lee can’t even spell literally. Never liked her she’s so annoying and try hard.

[ZettaK]

On 4/22/2023 at 9:01 AM, albarino said:

Why isn't Tom in LA working on his businesses?  Has he already given up and resigned himself to losing them?  Otherwise, as a co-owner or investor, I'd be pretty pissed he is AWOL so he can find his own inner peace or something.  

Tom really deserves every bad thing that happens to him......Icarus much?

I think it would be better for the restaurant if he disappeared from the limelight for a few days. He is not needed. The restaurant has a crew, manager, and Schwartz. He would be there to show his face for PR reasons only, and he is not popular right now. I don’t doubt Schwartz and Greg are relieved. Schwartz said the lounge was vandalized.

Edited April 24, 2023 by ZettaK

[CallmeCray]

On 4/21/2023 at 2:13 PM, IntrovertRed said:

I wasn't a fan of Schwartz before, however, I despise him now too because he is clearly also a master manipulator and gaslighter.  The 'charm' is all an act and that is evident when he interacts with Katie.  I loved how she is not engaging with him and moving on. The fact that he expected her to stop and chat about his business doesn't surprise me. 

 

Holy crap, did he have me fooled!  Who in the hell is this narcissistic sociopath?  I guess I haven’t been paying enough attention - and maybe he IS a good actor?!  He and Sandoval are far more alike than I previously thought.  

What a selfish dickhead loser.  Katie was wise to cut her losses and divorce his ass.  Hell, both she and Ariana are so much better off now that they are Tomless. Good riddance!

[chlban]

On 4/18/2023 at 4:31 PM, JenE4 said:

This fancy-ass Miraval Resort is where Rachel was rumored to be staying, which her rep denied. But it turned out that’s where Tom went? Were they both there? Is he “taking the heat” for her—or rather she took the heat first but I was really him there? But I don’t think he would be stupid enough to put himself being there if she was really there too. The post he’s referring to was cryptic enough—and could just be cashing in on the rumors that Rachel was there instead of a real mental health facility.

Tom Sandoval blasts wellness resort for outing his stay: 'Tried to find peace'
"They'd rather feed into the negativity and spectacle that has engulfed my life," Sandoval wrote on his Instagram Story of Miraval Arizona.

Read in Page Six: https://apple.news/AOM4ZwxANQCeqZ2GKb9DAKA

 

Ah, poor Tom. The Narcissist acts as this is something that "happened" to him. Being cheated on is something that happens to a person. Being diagnosed with an illness happens. Tom created this mess and now wants to play victim? Um, no. Just no.

 

 

[chlban]

On 4/21/2023 at 2:13 PM, IntrovertRed said:

If I was Tom's mom [perish the thought], I would have said, either you tell her or I tell her.  I certainly would have refused to meet her too. And I would be seriously pissed off at my son for being suck a lying asshole. Thought I don't doubt they've seen it before.  I always tell my son, I love you, but I'll turn you in if you commit a crime or murder, etc. Obviously, I watch too much true crime in addition to Bravo.

Tom is so much like my ex, they are such good liars and manipulators. It's not often you get to see it play out in front of the cameras so I find it both disgusting and fascinating at the same time.  My ex's family always thought that I was the cause of my ex's bad behavior (or really basically anything they didn't like that he did).  So much so that my ex's mother is probably be thrilled to see her beloved son with whatever woman he is with.  No matter that he's a shit person and father.  No respect for putting up with their son and still somehow raising their grandkids to be well-adjusted and mature, etc.  Oh lord, I feel the need for a therapy session.

I wasn't a fan of Schwartz before, however, I despise him now too because he is clearly also a master manipulator and gaslighter.  The 'charm' is all an act and that is evident when he interacts with Katie.  I loved how she is not engaging with him and moving on. The fact that he expected her to stop and chat about his business doesn't surprise me. 

It's also a little crazy because I finding myself enjoying Scheana more now too.  What is going on?!!

For me Sheana is, and has always been, like Kristen. I can't say I like the., but they make for good TV. They are both pretty delusional, Kristen is meaner but Scheana is dumber. I still say VP's best season was Kristen stalking Tom and Ariana and bringing us Miami Girl. It's a fine line on these shows to be as entertaining as they both can be, without making viewers truly hate them. Some of the Housewives started out this way, but eventually the Audience wanted them gone. Brandi and Lisa Rinna come to mind. I am sorry they fired Kristen and would not want Scheana to leave the show.  But you couldn't pay me to hang with them IRL.

 

[Jennifersdc]

LVP and Ariana are going to The White House Correspondents’ Dinner. I kid you fucking not.

Tucker Carlson and Don Lemon won’t be there.🤣

Edited April 24, 2023 by Jennifersdc
Auto spell misspelled

[princelina]

19 hours ago, Jennifersdc said:

LVP and Ariana are going to The White House Correspondents’ Dinner. I kid you fucking not.

In case you were wondering if that whole thing had become a complete joke - now we know!

[Polliwollidoodle]

I tried to quote about the correspondents' dinner but it doesn't appear to be working at the moment.

Anyway, I want to say that if LVP and Arianna are going there, invited, then gimmeabreak but if this is the White House Correspondents' Dinner- I might have to really question what the media does when reporting important political stuff.

[Jennifersdc]

1 hour ago, Polliwollidoodle said:

I tried to quote about the correspondents' dinner but it doesn't appear to be working at the moment.

Anyway, I want to say that if LVP and Arianna are going there, invited, then gimmeabreak but if this is the White House Correspondents' Dinner- I might have to really question what the media does when reporting important political stuff.

They’re going as guests of the Daily Mail (so that explains that). It’s a very big deal in DC, but it’s mostly a roast and the opportunity to get blitzed (journalists like that - there are associated parties all week). Biden will be there. Trump was really the first to never attend. Even Reagan phoned in after he got shot and couldn’t attend in person.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/24/2023-white-house-correspondents-dinner-events-parties-00093108

 

 

Edited April 25, 2023 by Jennifersdc
Added article link

[Polliwollidoodle]

Thanks for explaining whose guests they will be-------and I understand it's a roast and all but I still am shaking my head that with all that goes on in this world -that Arianna and LVP will be there. 

Yes I watch this show  (one of my many guilty pleasures) but I still am just struggling to understand them being there.

[politichick]

16 hours ago, Polliwollidoodle said:

Thanks for explaining whose guests they will be-------and I understand it's a roast and all but I still am shaking my head that with all that goes on in this world -that Arianna and LVP will be there. 

Yes I watch this show  (one of my many guilty pleasures) but I still am just struggling to understand them being there.

It's not at all a serious event like a state dinner or by any meaning of the word, frankly, and just all about the fun, like prom but for reporters and politicians. I went a few times when I was a Washington reporter and one time sat next to Trevor Noah. It was before he was really big. But the weekend is all about drinking and parties and receptions. Different publications invite celebs.

[farmgal4]

6 hours ago, politichick said:

It's not at all a serious event like a state dinner or by any meaning of the word, frankly, and just all about the fun, like prom but for reporters and politicians. I went a few times when I was a Washington reporter and one time sat next to Trevor Noah. It was before he was really big. But the weekend is all about drinking and parties and receptions. Different publications invite celebs.

Was the food good?