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55 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

Raquel and Tom were dragged by everybody at the reunion, including LVP, and Andy Cohen. For five hours, starting immediately. It was "explosive", it almost became physical- a couple of cast members had to be separated. Screenshot_20230325_175929_Instagram.thumb.jpg.d51b5996adadb0d5110ce7c825fb5410.jpg

We have to stop thinking they care.  They don’t. They will continue to do what they do.  There will be no repercussions.  They will likely be rewarded for this.  Probably a spinoff.

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3 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Raquel and Tom were dragged by everybody at the reunion, including LVP, and Andy Cohen. For five hours, starting immediately. It was "explosive", it almost became physical- a couple of cast members had to be separated. Screenshot_20230325_175929_Instagram.thumb.jpg.d51b5996adadb0d5110ce7c825fb5410.jpg

That doesn't sound like Zoom to me! 😃

5 hours ago, KLJ said:

Sadly I know what Ariana is going through, you really don't think rationally because your emotions are all over the place.  It's such a horrible thing to go through this because you feel dumb and ugly, like they were laughing at you. You are truly never the same and you never want to trust anyone ever again. You second guess everything and feel like your whole life was a lie and yes, a part of you wishes that person were dead. 

I've been there too - the hardest thing for me was the humiliation of wondering who knew as they acted like my friend!

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I just want to remind us all, that we have weeks and weeks to go before we get the airing of the reunion. 

It is now late March and the latest episode is number 7. Geeze, this could go for 21 or even more episodes. That puts it at two more months, maybe late May, when the reunion will finally air.  

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So these Chuckleheads actually got  mentioned on ABC'S local newscast this morning. Like legit news, not a show where they all sit around making stupid jokes and do cooking segments. They explained it, called it Scandoval and also mentioned that the first show after the scandal broke VR ratings more than doubled from the week before. Since I think this show has been on life support, that has to be great news for the cast and Lisa and, of course Andy.

 

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19 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Raquel and Tom were dragged by everybody at the reunion, including LVP, and Andy Cohen. For five hours, starting immediately. It was "explosive", it almost became physical- a couple of cast members had to be separated. Screenshot_20230325_175929_Instagram.thumb.jpg.d51b5996adadb0d5110ce7c825fb5410.jpg

She looks a little too much like a hostage here. And Sandoval looks like a complete creep. Sordid Tales -- Trapped and  forced to model for Tom Sandoval's lash extensions 'n' falsies company!

Also the braids. Come on now!

 

49 minutes ago, goofygirl said:

Because she was waiting for TMZ to show up after she called them.  Of course.

Noticed in above photo that old Scandoval is STILL wearing white fingernail polish.  WHY??

I believe the word you are looking for is "douche". 

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27 minutes ago, Jel said:

Also the braids. Come on now!

Didn’t Tori Spelling do that to go meet her skeevy husband’s (he did not age well) ex-wife? I’m embarrassed for myself for knowing this.

Also - is it wrong to possibly may want to buy a Something About Her t-shirt? Maybe a good memory of the good times? Mr. DC got me into them (t-shirts) as I now have to go to gym every day (see old). Certainly no Amity 1975 or Waystar Royco but could be good for a private giggle.

Speaking of Waystar Royco - I’m so excited for tonight I may pee. For all of those of you that haven’t watched Succession, please do - you’ll thank me for it.

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6 minutes ago, Jennifersdc said:

Didn’t Tori Spelling do that to go meet her skeevy husband’s (he did not age well) ex-wife? I’m embarrassed for myself for knowing this.

Also - is it wrong to possibly may want to buy a Something About Her t-shirt? Maybe a good memory of the good times? Mr. DC got me into them (t-shirts) as I now have to go to gym every day (see old). Certainly no Amity 1975 or Waystar Royco but could be good for a private giggle.

Speaking of Waystar Royco - I’m so excited for tonight I may pee. For all of those of you that haven’t watched Succession, please do - you’ll thank me for it.

I think I might sometimes be a little unfair to Katie, but that "Awww, Thanks everyone!" Instagram thing she did. Puleeze. Thanking everyone for supporting, "me and Ariana and our sandwich shop" Erm, I'm going to say, conservatively, that about 98% of the merchandise-buying support is support for Ariana, so best put her name first in that list. Katie!  

Succession -- we tried one episode. Hub and I both felt there were no likeable characters, so it turned us off...does it get better?

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1 hour ago, Jel said:

Also the braids. Come on now!

Maybe she told Ariana's braid person too! 😃

41 minutes ago, goofygirl said:

I'll see your douche and raise you a canoe!!

Also, all these VPR reruns they're running nonstop on Bravo for DAYS now in a row, just confirms the whole LOT of them are basic douchecanoes.  No exceptions!  Except for Ken, Lisa & Giggy, of course.

Nah - Ken and Lisa included.  I'll give Giggy an exception since it's not his fault how they dressed him 😄

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23 minutes ago, Jel said:

Succession -- we tried one episode. Hub and I both felt there were no likeable characters, so it turned us off...does it get better?

Yes! I told both my sister and husband to get past first two. Now they’re obsessed. But unfortunately (or not) very few likable characters in the show. They’re all just terrible.

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On 3/20/2023 at 4:52 PM, heatherchandler said:

'Vanderpump Rules' : Ariana Madix Confronts 'Stranger' Tom Sandoval After Split and Says She Wants Him 'to Die'
 

These people are psychotic.  Always wanting to murder each other, light on fire, hit by a truck, etc.  That’s really not normal talk.

It’s just basic immaturity, IMO. Stassi was Exhibit A with that kind of talk. But I can kind of understand Ariana having that kind of visceral feeling in the moment, though. Sandoval had just pissed away a lot of years. She was entitled to her anger.

On 3/25/2023 at 7:34 PM, ZettaK said:

Raquel and Tom were dragged by everybody at the reunion, including LVP, and Andy Cohen. For five hours, starting immediately. It was "explosive", it almost became physical- a couple of cast members had to be separated. Screenshot_20230325_175929_Instagram.thumb.jpg.d51b5996adadb0d5110ce7c825fb5410.jpg

And who didn’t see that coming?

Andy actually pushed back on the bullshit? That’s reason enough to watch, right there.

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17 hours ago, goofygirl said:

I'll see your douche and raise you a canoe!!

Also, all these VPR reruns they're running nonstop on Bravo for DAYS now in a row, just confirms the whole LOT of them are basic douchecanoes.  No exceptions!  Except for Ken, Lisa & Giggy, of course.

This! Especially Sandoval, and his buddy Schwartz. I am OVER the both of them. I wanted to put my foot through the screen yesterday with dumbass Schwartz having a “funeral” drinking party for his dead lizard, losing another marriage license, and both him and Sandoval actually crying over the fact that Sandoval wouldn’t be at Brit and Jax’s wedding to tie Schwartz’s tie. GTFO. It’s not cute, it’s not funny, it’s disgusting.

Both Sandoval and Rachel can ride off into the sunset, and take their manchild Schwartz with them.

 

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18 hours ago, Jennifersdc said:

Also - is it wrong to possibly may want to buy a Something About Her t-shirt? Maybe a good memory of the good times? Mr. DC got me into them (t-shirts) as I now have to go to gym every day (see old). Certainly no Amity 1975 or Waystar Royco but could be good for a private giggle.

I bought one of the sweatshirts. I couldn't help myself. It arrived last week and is super cute and comfortable. 

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On 3/25/2023 at 7:34 PM, ZettaK said:

Raquel and Tom were dragged by everybody at the reunion, including LVP, and Andy Cohen. For five hours, starting immediately. It was "explosive", it almost became physical- a couple of cast members had to be separated. 

I'll believe it when I'm watching it on TV. Sorry, but I've heard this before, only to watch and see they were exaggerating.

 

21 hours ago, Jel said:

I think I might sometimes be a little unfair to Katie, but that "Awww, Thanks everyone!" Instagram thing she did. Puleeze. Thanking everyone for supporting, "me and Ariana and our sandwich shop" Erm, I'm going to say, conservatively, that about 98% of the merchandise-buying support is support for Ariana, so best put her name first in that list. Katie!  

Is their sandwich shop even open? 

 

On 3/26/2023 at 7:31 AM, ZettaK said:

Brock had a haircut.

Wow! What a difference! 

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On 3/26/2023 at 6:31 AM, ZettaK said:

Brock had a haircut.

My IG suggestions are full of VR posts because I post here (and cookies "follow" what I do). This is one of those....

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Wow, he looks like a completely different person which is a good thing. Moment of silence for Brock's scrunchie is in order.

Wonder if he'll start brushing his teeth more too. 

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19 hours ago, goofygirl said:

I'll see your douche and raise you a canoe!!

Also, all these VPR reruns they're running nonstop on Bravo for DAYS now in a row, just confirms the whole LOT of them are basic douchecanoes.  No exceptions!  Except for Ken, Lisa & Giggy, of course.

You are so right.  They are ALL cheaters!  All disgusting losers.

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35 minutes ago, Gharlane said:

I'll believe it when I'm watching it on TV. Sorry, but I've heard this before, only to watch and see heated arguments but nothing physical.

 

Is their sandwich shop even open? 

I don't think it's open yet. Katie did say that all the merch buying is helping them get the money they need to get going on it. 

So for people who like their sandwiches put on a plate wrapped in brown paper and tied with string (? -- do not understand or appreciate this presentation, but whatever), I'd say the wait might be getting shorter.

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On 3/24/2023 at 3:20 PM, ZettaK said:

This is how she looks all fixed up for the reunion, with professional makeup on, etc. This is how she looked the day before, without makeup on, when she called TMZ for an interview outside a strip mall store. 

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Anyone can wear make up and look pretty.  The truth will come out when said make up is washed off at the end of the day. 

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Somebody was asking about the song Sandoval's band was playing on the show (episode 4 which is on Bravo right now). They were playing at The Canyon Club in Agoura Hills. It was not a cover, but a song Tom and his band wrote. I think that's the single that dropped the night Ariana found Raquel's video in Tom's phone. It's called Superstars. Everybody is ignoring it now because of the scandal. Link to the audio from YouTube:

https://youtu.be/A1CsOVFlDVM

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8 hours ago, ZettaK said:

That's the exterior of S & S. 

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And this is Brett Bakman (who we saw on VR), the Operating Partner of S & S.

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I assume the neon’s burned out? No wonder they’ve not shown exteriors,  other than a close-up of the sign.

9 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Somebody was asking about the song Sandoval's band was playing on the show (episode 4 which is on Bravo right now). They were playing at The Canyon Club in Agoura Hills. It was not a cover, but a song Tom and his band wrote. I think that's the single that dropped the night Ariana found Raquel's video in Tom's phone. It's called Superstars. Everybody is ignoring it now because of the scandal. 

https://youtu.be/A1CsOVFlDVM

Found out that they played a gig in my hometown in January.

I saw a video of them doing A-ha’s “Take On Me.” Instrumentals were spot on, but Sandoval’s voice was very weak. He is a legend in his own mind.

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3 hours ago, bosawks said:

I love the arrow pointing to the only obvious door.

Further proof that they are spending too much time with Raquel who probably needs that arrow...

The first time Rachel visited, she probably sat on that bird/leaf motif tile   bench for forty minutes before someone told her everyone else was inside, on the other side of the red door.

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I was having trouble posting for some reason and wanted to mention that I enjoyed Jax and Brittany with Andy. However, what really tickled me was them being congratulated on their podcast. Granted, I am old but the way they were carrying on ( and Andy too) I thought wow they're going to have a spin off. Then I realized they kept saying podcast. Ok I get it; lots of people do listen but  can't anyone kind of have a podcast?

 

I'm so looking forward to each new episode. And I agree with the comment that we are often promised high drama to find it either didn't happen or it's been oversold.

Don't get me wrong. After a few years of not watching, I am now indeed watching! (and looking forward to Wednesdays)

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1 hour ago, Polliwollidoodle said:

I was having trouble posting for some reason and wanted to mention that I enjoyed Jax and Brittany with Andy. However, what really tickled me was them being congratulated on their podcast. Granted, I am old but the way they were carrying on ( and Andy too) I thought wow they're going to have a spin off. Then I realized they kept saying podcast. Ok I get it; lots of people do listen but  can't anyone kind of have a podcast?

 

I'm so looking forward to each new episode. And I agree with the comment that we are often promised high drama to find it either didn't happen or it's been oversold.

Don't get me wrong. After a few years of not watching, I am now indeed watching! (and looking forward to Wednesdays)

Pretty much. Just look at Scheana.

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It seems that Raquel and Sandoval went to a restaurant together after the reunion. They care only about PR, their position on the show, and their businesses. No cast member wants to film with Raquel in the future. Bravo would like to fire Raquel, but wants to tie the story line up- about how Sandoval and Ariana broke up. 

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1 hour ago, ZettaK said:

It seems that Raquel and Sandoval went to a restaurant together after the reunion. They care only about PR, their position on the show, and their businesses. No cast member wants to film with Raquel in the future. Bravo would like to fire Raquel, but wants to tie the story line up- about how Sandoval and Ariana broke up. 

They better be careful firing Raquel and not Sandoval. I worked as Risk Manager for many years and we faced an affair between a married man and a single woman that was causing a great deal of turmoil and distraction. Naturally, our nale boss thought firing the woman, who would have been , by far, the easiest to replace. Our legal department said no way in hell. We had no "cause" to fire either of them and if we wanted to find cause, we damn well better find it on both of them. I realize a TV production has different standards overall but, it's still sexism to fire the "other woman" and keep the cheating creep. It takes two. If no one is willing to film with her, fine, fire her. But they better fire him as well.

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1 minute ago, chlban said:

They better be careful firing Raquel and not Sandoval. I worked as Risk Manager for many years and we faced an affair between a married man and a single woman that was causing a great deal of turmoil and distraction. Naturally, our nale boss thought firing the woman, who would have been , by far, the easiest to replace. Our legal department said no way in hell. We had no "cause" to fire either of them and if we wanted to find cause, we damn well better find it on both of them. I realize a TV production has different standards overall but, it's still sexism to fire the "other woman" and keep the cheating creep. It takes two. If no one is willing to film with her, fine, fire her. But they better fire him as well.

I would think they would just choose not to renew her contract? I'm pretty sure that's pretty standard for anyone that films a reality show. 

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16 minutes ago, ksutton625 said:

I would think they would just choose not to renew her contract? I'm pretty sure that's pretty standard for anyone that films a reality show. 

If Vicki Gunvalson apparently had a season-to-season contract…pretty sure Tom and Rachel do as well.

They both need to go. Sandoval, in particular is LONG past his sell-by date. From what I’ve been reading about the reunion, he and Rachel are personas non grata. Him especially. Two people in any Bravo show are expendable, even moreso when they’re part of a cast of thousands like on VR. Just bring on two new Pump (or TomTom, or S&S) employees and move on. The way they’ve been featuring the S&S interview process, it feels like auditions.

Wait a bit after sacking those two, and Bravo has itself a new spinoff.

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I highly doubt ANYONE will be fired, and I’d put every penny I have on every damn one returning, including those who “refuse” to film with Rachel.  They all want to stay on the show, so I am guessing they’ll be filming with her.  

This so-called dilemma regarding who will stay and who will go is a storyline, in itself - and Bravo and all of the players involved are in on it.  

I don’t think anyone will be leaving the show unless they choose to, and I’d be shocked if any of these fools are ready to give up the money or the “fame” that being a Chucklefuck affords them.  

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This goes back to my question a week or so ago - how do they move forward?

Bravo now thinks they can squeeze a couple more good years out of our aging Chucklefucks. The Chucklefucks want the money (and in a position to get a nice raise).

But I don’t think Ariana would film with Sandoval or Raquel and she kind of holds all the cards right now given the press. They certainly can’t fire her (aka “not renew her contract”).

Actually I don’t think they can fire any of them for refusing (Scheana, Katie, Lala, James). Use Schwartz like they did with Katie years ago for Stassi? That was stupid. Find a friend of Raquel?

I’m fascinated how this will all turn out. I guess we’ll find out if the Chucklefucks have a price. I’m sure they do. I don’t see any of them ever filming with Raquel again though.

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9 minutes ago, Jennifersdc said:

This goes back to my question a week or so ago - how do they move forward?

Bravo now thinks they can squeeze a couple more good years out of our aging Chucklefucks. The Chucklefucks want the money (and in a position to get a nice raise).

But I don’t think Ariana would film with Sandoval or Raquel and she kind of holds all the cards right now given the press. They certainly can’t fire her (aka “not renew her contract”).

Actually I don’t think they can fire any of them for refusing (Scheana, Katie, Lala, James). Use Schwartz like they did with Katie years ago for Stassi? That was stupid. Find a friend of Raquel?

I’m fascinated how this will all turn out. I guess we’ll find out if the Chucklefucks have a price. I’m sure they do. I don’t see any of them ever filming with Raquel again though.

I agree with you and am also eager to see how they do move forward with this.  My own gut is that the only one who will be immune to having to film with Rachel is Ariana.   Of course, I could be totally wrong.  I’m still not sold on Ariana refusing to ever film with Sandoval in the future.  These people are all wannabe actors and actresses, so I see every single one of them seizing the day and taking advantage of this storyline for their own benefit.  I can’t help but think their desire for camera time and the most compelling roles in this storyline are the ultimates goals for each of them, all other factors aside.  

Either way, the cliffhangers this question creates is a dream come true for Bravo, and as far as ratings go, is like Christmas morning for Vanderpump Rules. 

As all of the upcoming episodes air, time passes and some of the drama of this situation dies down, it’ll be interesting to see how many of the pearl clutching ride-or-dies are willing to budge a bit on their ultimatums regarding with whom they will and won’t film.  I guess we’re all in for a long wait!  

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Ratings are up (doubled?) after the exposure of the affair. 

Cast members ostracized others on reality shows (didn't invite them to events, didn't film with them), to the point of networks letting the pariahs go. 

But Sandoval and Raquel will probably be a couple, and Schwartz is still Sandoval's friend and he will film with him. 

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1 hour ago, ZettaK said:

Ratings are up (doubled?) after the exposure of the affair. 

Cast members ostracized others on reality shows (didn't invite them to events, didn't film with them), to the point of networks letting the pariahs go

But Sandoval and Raquel will probably be a couple, and Schwartz is still Sandoval's friend and he will film with him. 

Ok, I’m old-ish and have a horrible memory, I give up.  I’ve been trying to remember an example of this type of dynamic happening on any Bravo shows that I’ve watched.   I either can’t remember (which is the most likely scenario), or wasn’t a viewer of such shows.  

Please help an amnesiac sister out!  😂 Inquiring minds wanna know!

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1 hour ago, CallmeCray said:

Ok, I’m old-ish and have a horrible memory, I give up.  I’ve been trying to remember an example of this type of dynamic happening on any Bravo shows that I’ve watched.   I either can’t remember (which is the most likely scenario), or wasn’t a viewer of such shows.  

Please help an amnesiac sister out!  😂 Inquiring minds wanna know!

Danielle Staub of the NJ HWs. She had to film with some random "new" friends, her real friends, as she called them, her daughters, and an ex con in S2. She was let go after that.

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4 hours ago, Jennifersdc said:

This goes back to my question a week or so ago - how do they move forward?

Since I've been watching the old episodes that have been running:

Stassi, Katie and Kristen were "best friends" but when Stassi broke up with Jax for cheating, Katie and Kristen took Jax's side.  Bare-chested bar fights, nastiness all around and the drinking of Jax's Cristal ended with Jax admitting his indiscretion, and come season 2 all was forgiven - Stassi was still pissed at Jax, but made up with Katie and Kristen who were terrible to her in season 1; was a bitch to Scheana who had been nice to her; they were all awful to Scheana; more drunken bar fights; Katie announces that Sandy and Ariana AND Jax and Kristen hooked up; everyone is mad at Katie until Jax admits he "banged" Kristen; her "best friends" are absolutely GLEEFUL to set Kristen up and humiliate her; Sandy is more upset that his friend of 10+ years cheated on him than his cheating girlfriend, but the friend in question says, "I'm not sorry, we weren't that close, should have satisfied your woman".  In real life every single relationship on this show would have been done by the end of season 2!  They move forward because they want to be on tv and to do so they must be "friends" with the rest of the cast, so that they can fight and insult each other throughout the season 🤷‍♀️

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