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Frozendiva

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Who planted the 'accelerant'? Hope or Tripp? Tripp would tell her to go back to the burned down cabin area? Hmmmmm.

Yeah, Hope, you really respected the law and the moral compass or whatever when you offed Stefano, and you and Rafe hid his body in some building that was going to be destroyed. Once Ben is cleared, he really should bring a nice fat lawsuit against the Salem PD. Shawn is right to question the new 'evidence'. It's too convenient, too easy. Unless some animal took it and brought it back or dumped it, the forensics folks would have found anything around and assessed the burn patterns.

Thought it would be Hattie once Doc started to speak. Kayla couldn't get the family out of the room fast enough. Yep, Hattie, Sami, Belle, and Eric deserved what you said to them. Nice that you find Eric attractive.

Claire, why don't you just be single for a while, work on your studies and your music? You don't need to go the merry go round with Tripp or anyone else.

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On 9/17/2018 at 4:57 PM, Silver Raven said:

"I respect the law." Yeah, tell that to Stefano.

I get Hope is a hypocritical killer witch right now. That said, Stefano, even chair bound by then, was no sweet old man. He put the Brady family through enough for four lifetimes. And considering one of his last deeds was to have Bo tortured and then to die of a brain tumor...I fault Hope for being a killer, yet I can't fault her for who she killed. Splitting hairs? Definitely. But that's how I feel.

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Apprentice79

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5 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

I get Hope is a hypocritical killer witch right now. That said, Stefano, even chair bound by then, was no sweet old man. He put the Brady family through enough for four lifetimes. And considering one of his last deeds was to have Bo tortured and then to dry of a brain tumor...I fault Hope for being a killer, yet I can't fault her for who she killed. Splitting hairs? Definitely. But that's how I feel.

Same here. I am always perplexed by people defending Stefano.  Being an elderly man did not alter his status as a monster.  He should have been killed off a long time ago preferably at the hands of Roman, Marlena and John. His original victims. 

My only problem with Hope was her reaction after she killed him. Hope in character would have come forward and taken responsibility for her actions. 

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tribeca

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It seems like people bring up Hopes past actions to excuse Bens past actions.  

I really can’t with Ciara.  She looks all moony eyed and follows Ben around then gets jealous of Tripp and Claire.   Ciara if you want Ben just let Tripp go.  

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Stefano wasn't the one responsible for Bo being tortured or dying. Hope is so awful that I actually like Rafe. I really can't have that anymore. 

 

The switching of Marlena for Hattie was actually smart. I just hope Hattie isn't around very long. Hope Brady would have been at the hospital out if concern for her long time friend.  Commissioner Hope Hernandez can't be bothered. This  pairing has destroyed Hope.

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Chick2Chic

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I don't think people brought up Hope's actions to excuse Ben's actions (people do bring up the double standard why killer Abby who also terrorized people gets a pat on the head regarding her mental illness diagnosis and Ben is vilified for similar but that's a different topic). I think it has been brought up to point out Hope's hypocrisy that she doesn't actually respect the law if she is a servant of the law but breaks it when she thinks it ok to do so. Plus some folks - onscreen and in the audience - also think that Hope finding this new evidence weeks later that no one in the crime lab, forensics, or PD/FD found when searching the cabin or surrounding area in a bright hot dog looking outfit and heels that didn't have a speck of dirt on it that the lab turned up a positive match in less than 24 hours smells. Even dunderhead Detective Rafe who also breaks the law when he wants to thinks it doesn't pass the sniff test judging from his reaction at the end of Monday's ep.  Also, it's not just that Hope killed Stefano that caused side-eye but the cover up of the murder afterward with Rafe that was also not lawful.

I understand Hope's POV about Ben but her actions in the past haven't always shown respect for the law and people balking at her saying she respects the law aren't whitewashing facts IMO. Stefano doesn't have to be an angel for it to be the truth that Hope unlawfully murdered him and spent months afterward doing various things to cover it up with Rafe's help. Obviously, folks don't have to care that Hope murdered Stefano but it doesn't change that she did murder him and covered it up (with Rafe, which maybe why he knows she's not above doing something dirty when she feels it is justified). 

All that said, Tripp was way too cocky with his "I told you so" comments to Ciara and Claire about Ben, so I suspect he maybe had something to do with the can that Hope found if the twist is that Hope didn't plant it herself. 

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Apprentice79

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20 minutes ago, Chick2Chic said:

I understand Hope's POV about Ben but her actions in the past haven't always shown respect for the law and people balking at her saying she respects the law aren't whitewashing facts IMO. Stefano doesn't have to be an angel for it to be the truth that Hope unlawfully murdered him and spent months afterward doing various things to cover it up with Rafe's help. Obviously, folks don't have to care that Hope murdered Stefano but it doesn't change that she did murder him and covered it up (with Rafe, which maybe why he knows she's not above doing something dirty when she feels it is justified). 

What was so infuriating is that Hope was obviously suffering from PTSD.  Aiden tried to kill her to please Stefano, Bo died and her nemesis Stefano who kept her captive for years who also brainwashed her, raped her and tortured members of her family for years was taunting her about those traumatic events. So, Hope had no reason to cover up his murder. It was a story that was meant to bond her to Rafe. It failed spectacularly because you had people sympathizing with Stefano and it tarnished Hope's status as a heroine.  

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Chick2Chic

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27 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

So, Hope had no reason to cover up his murder.

While I agree with the history lead up, Hope still murdered Stefano in cold blood. She wasn't in imminent danger from him so she had to cover it up since she couldn't plead self-defense.

And that story was totally to facilitate her relationship with Rafe and have him be able to rescue her *gags* since that's his shtick with all the women they pair him with but it doesn't change that she did murder Stefano and cover it up. So Hope saying she respects the law deserved a guffaw or side-eye AFAIC for being factually a lie even if IMO you don't care she killed Stefano and rolled him up to cover it up.

On another note, I need Sami to clock Belle before she skips town. At least once but I would take Sami punching Belle a few times at this point. I am so tired of Belle these last few weeks. I was totally not surprised that Belle admitted she thought she was really special because she's John & Marlena's only biological child. I also would like it if the characters would remember that Sami only shot Marlena cause Eric thought it would be a good idea to tackle his drugged out twin while she held a loaded gun. 

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Apprentice79

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11 minutes ago, Chick2Chic said:

While I agree with the history lead up, Hope still murdered Stefano in cold blood. She wasn't in imminent danger from him so she had to cover it up since she couldn't plead self-defense.

And that story was totally to facilitate her relationship with Rafe and have him be able to rescue her *gags* since that's his shtick with all the women they pair him with but it doesn't change that she did murder Stefano and cover it up. So Hope saying she respects the law deserved a guffaw or side-eye AFAIC for being factually a lie even if IMO you don't care she killed Stefano and rolled him up to cover it up.

On another note, I need Sami to clock Belle before she skips town. At least once but I would take Sami punching Belle a few times at this point. I am so tired of Belle these last few weeks. I was totally not surprised that Belle admitted she thought she was really special because she's John & Marlena's only biological child. I also would like it if the characters would remember that Sami only shot Marlena cause Eric thought it would be a good idea to tackle his drugged out twin while she held a loaded gun. 

 

She did murder him in cold blood, but, there were mitigating circumstances, given her horrific history with Stefano and what she had gone through with Aiden and Bo respectively.

Ironically, the same thing happened with Stefano and Marlena years ago. Stefano had kidnapped the twins and mocked Marlena about Roman's death , he actually had the temerity to offer Marlena the chance to raise her own kids.  In a rage, she shot him in cold blood as well. The difference is that Marlena took responsibility for it and the whole town stood with her.  I will never care about Stefano being killed, he is a monster. 

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Chick2Chic

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3 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

I will never care about Stefano being killed, he is a monster. 

And that's cool. I know some folks don't care that Stefano dead or that Hope murdered him. I was just pointing out that she did murder him and covered it up so her saying she respects the law and would never do anything hinky was factually a lie. 

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DisneyBoy

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It failed spectacularly because you had people sympathizing with Stefano and it tarnished Hope's status as a heroine.

 

Sometimes the show fails to see how things will come across here in the real world. Everyone had been sympathizing with Stefano for years at that point because of Joe's condition. Even if the writing had made Stefano some brilliant Evil Genius in those final weeks, it still would have been very hard to stomach watching Joe get shot point-blank on camera repeatedly. They could have done something really interesting and artistic (a drowning, a suicide, whatever) but instead they went for shock value. They got what they wanted, but the fallout was that everyone felt really badly about Joe's character being written out that way. I have to say, though, I really liked the memorial they held for him at the Brady Pub months later that ended with Caroline turning out the lights as opera music played. But that was still just a Band-Aid on the whole mess.

Plus, you constantly had Hope talking about her crime in a way that seemed designed to prompt Rafe to tell her she was justified. As far as sweet talk is concerned, that is definitely gross.

Heck, I even felt sympathy for Andre, trying to dig his poor father's body out as a building came down around him. He was scarred for a year after that, in a rare display of realism and subtlety.

At the end of the day, I think it just sucks that for all the brilliant schemes writers concocted for Stefano, the character was bumped off in a very random way during the 50th anniversary. And then, realizing what a mess they made, the show tried to reverse his death and here we are, years later with nothing but morbid questions about what the status of his character is.

Is Hope justified in shooting Stefano? Absolutely. But the context of how it happened made it awful, from the Rafe courtship, to the mishandling of Joe's Legacy, to the gore factor.

I really liked that Ron brought that back into play today, with the question of the evidence looming over Hope's head. It was obviously Tripp that planted that, and I think that was a smart move. That way Hope doesn't get her hands dirty but the suggestion that she might have drives another wedge between her and Captain Eyelashes. Sucks for Tripp though. This actor is getting wasted.

I don't completely love the awkward way Deidre plays Hattie. She still sounds like Marlena half the time, and you can just hear how the lines could be better delivered by someone with a bit more of a wild personality. That's why Eileen excels at Susan. She makes it all fun. Whenever Hattie talks about Roman being sexy I can't even laugh. It's just cringe-worthy instead of fun. I hope we do get to see her buy Abigail a drink though.

I guess I have to eat my words because the show actually spent an entire episode today explaining how Hattie ended up at the hospital! Nicely done.

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Apprentice79

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29 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

I don't completely love the awkward way Deidre plays Hattie. She still sounds like Marlena half the time, and you can just hear how the lines could be better delivered by someone with a bit more of a wild personality. That's why Eileen excels at Susan. She makes it all fun. Whenever Hattie talks about Roman being sexy I can't even laugh. It's just cringe-worthy instead of fun. I hope we do get to see her buy Abigail a drink though.

I think that Andrea Hall played Hattie better than Deidre. Andrea gave Hattie a grittiness and sadness that Deidre does not bring to the role.  I wish that we had seen the original Hattie story on the show, before it was derailed by backstage intrigue..

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5 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

I think that Andrea Hall played Hattie better than Deidre. Andrea gave Hattie a grittiness and sadness that Deidre does not bring to the role.  I wish that we had seen the original Hattie story on the show, before it was derailed by backstage intrigue..

That was before my time. What do you mean by "backstage intrigue"?

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Apprentice79

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19 minutes ago, rcc said:

That was before my time. What do you mean by "backstage intrigue"?

It was a while ago, but, I believe that there were writing changes that derailed Hattie taking over Marlena's life story.  It was supposed to be a sinister story with Stefano orchestrating the whole thing. The headwriter and producer butted heads and Andrea Hall eventually left the show. 

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1 hour ago, Apprentice79 said:

It was a while ago, but, I believe that there were writing changes that derailed Hattie taking over Marlena's life story.  It was supposed to be a sinister story with Stefano orchestrating the whole thing. The headwriter and producer butted heads and Andrea Hall eventually left the show. 

Thanks.

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As much as I am loving the Hattie storyline, it doesn't make sense that Kayla wouldn't have risked her medical career by getting rid of the DNR, but she would by defying it and hiding Marlena.  And if Marlena dies, holy crap!  Furthermore, Marlena needed some specialist to get rid of the infection she has, but who is treating her now?  It might have been better if they hadn't given us the back story as to how this happened, especially with Kayla's involvement!

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Silver Raven

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Oh, ffs, Ciara, make up your freaking mind.

Love the spit shake.

Hope is a heartless witch.

Ugh, Rafe, groveling is not attractive.

"I'm thinking she would like some pudding cups and a steak."

"My first priority is finding Kristen." Oh, yeah?  What exactly are you doing about that?

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bobcat1946

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On 9/16/2018 at 4:30 PM, Silver Raven said:

Well, Belle is too old for her show age, too.

I just read a comment on Twitter that if Hope was really interested in getting Ben out of Ciara's life, all she would have to do is go tell Victor, and poof, Ben would be gone.

Hope does not want Ben dead.  Just locked up for life and she know Victor would put a hit out on Ben.

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kitmerlot1213

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10 hours ago, tribeca said:

I really can’t with Ciara.  She looks all moony eyed and follows Ben around then gets jealous of Tripp and Claire.   Ciara if you want Ben just let Tripp go.  

Even when Ciara is right, she's still completely unpleasant that I find myself rooting against her automatically winning.  Claire was completely in the wrong for grabbing Tripp and kissing him but then Ciara had to pull out a super-bitchy "You're looking a little blotchy" comment and I just roll my eyes at this allegedly big hearted, beautiful on the inside and out snotty princess.

Hattie is damn funny and her crush on Roman continues to be a highlight of her scenes--her dragging Mar's daughters was also unexpectedly funny.

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bannana

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1 hour ago, tribeca said:

Maybe this is a stupid question but why would a pub owner be in charge of a prisoner transfer?

Right!  The warden lets Roman do the transfer but isn't following up when Hattie goes missing?

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I knew something was wrong with the Marlena story line - one minute, she's intubated, on life support, then in the next scene, when the family comes in to witness the unplugging, she is only on nasal canula. I have seen enough of these scenes on medical tv shows to know that if they are going to pull the plug on somebody, they are hooked up with all the monitors beeping away. When they are ready to take of life support, the switch is turned off on the vent, then the monitor starts beeping slower and slower until it flatlines, then they pronounce and pull the tubes. I can't believe no one thought the scenario was sketch. 

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Frozendiva

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Kayla, so let me get this straight - there is a section of Salem Hospital undergoing renovations. Do you seriously think that you can keep Marlena hidden in it for more than a few days? Someone is going to find out!

Hattie was adorable in asking for steak and pudding cups.

So, who planted the accelerant - Hope or Tripp? Rafe and Shawn D should be calling her out and especially her eagerness to magically find evidence where none had existed. Something smells rotten. Not liking someone is one thing. Her behavior should get her fired. And lording her Commissioner status over stupid Rafe - yeah, Rafe, tell her to bring it on and get rid of him.. First, get rid of the Big Bird coloured blouse.

Claire, stop going after Tripp. If he did plant the accelerant he will get caught and then neither you nor Ciara will get him.

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TwistedandBored

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15 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

As hilar as Hattie is, it was John's reactions to her that were killing me.  I kinda love how the show was able to go from high emotion to lighthearted comedy in the same story.

I think that is the best part of this storyline. John’s reaction to Hattie kills me. 

 

He used hand sanitizer y’all...

 

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Gabi  revenge plan makes Chad look clueless.  You would think he would defend Abby a little.  And I don’t even like Abby.    

   How is it that Bonnie is so much prettier than Andriene?   

JJ really needs to be in a romantic lead story.   The character right now just gets to react to everyone else issues. 

So now Marlene is awake I don’t get to see my Eric.   Life just isn’t fair.  

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What an awesome episode, we got both Lani and Abby--WOO HOO!!  Lani continues to be the absolute worst, just floating around Salem as the poor childless mother and because of that tragedy, she never truly paid for trying to pass Eli's baby off as JJ's.  Every Horton should be glaring at her for hurting JJ but I guess he's not the same precious jewel that Abs is.  And as for Gabi, I don't care what her plan is, I just want Abs to suffer :):)

I love how Chloe's trying to act like she's some kind of badass who took on Mateo in hand to hand combat, when in actuality, she stabbed him in the back while he was distracted by Paul and John's having broken into the compound.  Bonnie didn't seem too impressed by Chloe's "threat."

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40 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

How does Gabi remain viable as a character after drugging a pregnant woman? Ron is going too far, in my opinion. This will give Julie more reasons to hate Gabi. 

This is just my supposition but I think Gabi might pull a Susan--in other words, when Gabi's confronted with the horrible things she's done, she'll realize that she went too far and ask for forgiveness and personally, I hope that Gabi's at least allowed one moment to tell the hag off :):)

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Same here. I am always perplexed by people defending Stefano.  Being an elderly man did not alter his status as a monster.  He should have been killed off a long time ago preferably at the hands of Roman, Marlena and John. His original victims. 

No matter what Stefano did, Hope had no right to take the law into her own hands. She is allegedly a good cop (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA) and should know this.

I am not unaware of all the stuff Stefano did. I honestly don't miss the character and know the character deserved ages ago. I know all of that. Still Hope had no right to murder anyone and then cover it up.

And what is she doing now? I'm not saying she should be thrilled with her daughter being involved with Ben, but come on. She does not have respect for the law or her job if she is breaking the law  ... again.

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12 hours ago, Tasha Brand said:

I don't care how allegedly awful Abigail is (I really don't think she's any worse than several other characters on the canvas).  What Gabi's doing is absolutely wrong, and there is someone else she's hurting, but apparently not realizing it.  Does she not realize how harmful the drugs could possibly be to the baby?  He or she is innocent.

No.  Not behind Gabi on this.  At all.

I don't think there is anything alleged about Abby's behavior--she is a remarkably self-involved person who rarely considers others feelings yet she is somehow treated like a flawless princess--I enjoy it when other characters are allowed to point out her self-centeredness.  And Gabi made sure that the pills Kayla prescribed for her where the same sleeping pills she used when she was pregnant with Ari, so Gabi's making sure the baby isn't endangered.

 

10 hours ago, TigerLynx said:

I think the reason I don't care what Gabi does to Slappy, or that Ben is a serial killer is because so many characters on this show, good and bad, never pay for anything they do.

How many crimes has Abs walked away from:  kidnapping, assault, murder?  Good for Gabi for holding her accountable for all of the ways Abby hurt her--we all know the Salem DA won't.

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3 hours ago, Tasha Brand said:

I don't care how allegedly awful Abigail is (I really don't think she's any worse than several other characters on the canvas).  What Gabi's doing is absolutely wrong, and there is someone else she's hurting, but apparently not realizing it.  Does she not realize how harmful the drugs could possibly be to the baby?  He or she is innocent.

No.  Not behind Gabi on this.  At all.

Gabi took them same drugs herself so she does not know she could be hurting the brat.

29 minutes ago, kitmerlot1213 said:

I don't think there is anything alleged about Abby's behavior--she is a remarkably self-involved person who rarely considers others feelings yet she is somehow treated like a flawless princess--I enjoy it when other characters are allowed to point out her self-centeredness.  And Gabi made sure that the pills Kayla prescribed for her where the same sleeping pills she used when she was pregnant with Ari, so Gabi's making sure the baby isn't endangered.

 

How many crimes has Abs waled away from:  kidnapping, assault, murder?  Good for Gabi for holding her accountable for all of the ways Abby hurt her--we all know the Salem DA won't.

Witch DA was hot to send Gabi to prison for murdering Andre, but when found out it was Abigail she said no problem. 

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Gabi may wish to rethink her plan - the drugging/sleeping pills probably will not work and it'll be really convenient for Kayla to put two and two together, Abs and Chad will implode on their own. Yes, Abigail should not be the Horton princess who doesn't pay for her crimes. Her actions hurt Gabi. She has shown no real remorse except for some contrived words. Doubt her alters would have integrated within a couple of weeks.

Chloe, you were just in the right place and right time by killing El Fedeo.

Little Bon Bon is cute. Bonnie looks a lot better than Adrienne. The longer hair is more flattering.

No interest in Lani or Eli.

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How does Gabi remain viable as a character after drugging a pregnant woman? Ron is going too far, in my opinion. 

I see you are echoing my concerns about Ron's writing style. I feel like he's always willing to go for the gusto and sacrifice characters future potential in the process.

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7 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

How does Gabi remain viable as a character after drugging a pregnant woman? Ron is going too far, in my opinion. This will give Julie more reasons to hate Gabi. 

Gabi will be fine after this. Salem is full of characters who have done more horrible things than her. Plus who cares what Julie thinks of Gabi. It is not like they were on their to becoming buddies. 

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9 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

Gabi specifically made sure from Kayla that the drugs would not harm the baby.

 

 Whatever happens to the mother will affect a developing baby in the womb.  Gaby is not a doctor to administer drugs to a pregnant woman. Does she know if Abigail is allergic to the medication. What if it causes  an allergic reaction that can put the baby at risk. In real life, some pregnant women will forego taking medication for common colds, just so the baby does not feel the effects of it.  Gabi is vile in my opinion.  I know that Abigail is loathed on this board, but, Gabi has gone too far in attacking a pregnant woman. 

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I still love Gabi lol. More so now probably. CB's faces are fucking hilarious. I hope Gabi has like PTSD or something so once this all comes out she can tell everyone it was because of her mental illness and everyone can forgive her like they have Abigail, right?

I fast forwarded all the Lani stuff because I don't give a shit. I also fast forwarded all the Abigail stuff. I wanted to watch both for JJ, but I tried and was just too bored so I couldn't do it. I did really love Abigail's dress though.

Loved the Chloe/Bonnie, Bonnie/Sheila, and Eli/Sheila scenes.

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5 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

I still love Gabi lol. More so now probably. CB's faces are fucking hilarious. I hope Gabi has like PTSD or something so once this all comes out she can tell everyone it was because of her mental illness and everyone can forgive her like they have Abigail, right?

I fast forwarded all the Lani stuff because I don't give a shit. I also fast forwarded all the Abigail stuff. I wanted to watch both for JJ, but I tried and was just too bored so I couldn't do it. I did really love Abigail's dress though.

Loved the Chloe/Bonnie, Bonnie/Sheila, and Eli/Sheila scenes.

Agreed--I love that Gabi is going as hardcore on Abs as she is, especially her plan to gaslight Abby into thinking that "Gabby" has returned.  And it won't take Chad long to start doubting the perilous sanity of his dear sweet wife :):)

I can not stand Lani and her pained yet oddly expressionless reaction to Eli's spilling his guts to her.  He does realize that he's massively hot and can do better then that self-involved twit right?  But then again she'll show some interest the minute Eli decides to pay attention to Sheila.

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Urgh, I don't love that Gabi's relatively justified thirst for revenge has been distilled back down to wanting to bang Chad.

I still don't think Lucas is that baby's father, but at least Chloe broached the question of paternity test shenanigans given the clusterfucker she experienced with them.

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