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True. I do think things have improved more on that friend though, but maybe that is just when some guy gets it on with Paul Narita.

 

Sonny does not have friends who are more Sonny's friend than Will, does he? Maybe Melanie I guess.

That is so true..Paul and Will were hot together, especially in Sonny's fantasy about them....They have never let Will and Sonny go at it like that in both incarnations..I was hoping that they would have let them go for it on their honeymoon....Nope, they spent it talking about Nick....lol

 

I remember Sonny promising Will a real honeymoon on their wedding day last year..Sonny is so sweet, always taking care of Will. I guess they will not be doing that anytime soon...lol

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Sparkle's useless mother is.

 

Ugh Abifail and the mannequin are back. How wonderful. Chad is so pathetic going after that rodent. Have some damn self respect. And really, if he wants her all he haves to do is get a fake girlfriend and then she'll be all over him. Take her to a supply closet or shower and she'll bust it open for you no problem\. These people are so freak nasueating. 

Lol.  Fake gf plus two fake children. 

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I don't think Chandler could have made this characterization work..it is the writing that is doing the character of Will a disservice..He is all over the place...He should be trying to work on his marriage..Attacking Paul is only going to push Sonny and Paul together...

 

Yeah, I'm not sure Chandler could have made this work, either.  The difference for me is that I liked Chandler and would have fanwanked why he cheated on Sonny, since the show isn't giving me any reason for it.  He came across as Sami Brady's coddled (and therefore entitled and inept) son and was for whatever reason more sympathetic and relatable.  But I do not like GW's acting.  He's either stilted or over the top and has no charisma, warmth, or sincerity, and I can't picture him as the child of Sami and Lucas and the grandson of Marlena and Kate.  I especially liked Chandler with DH and LK but GW's few scenes with them have been so awkward and flat.  It sucks because I used to like watching the character even when he was doing something spiteful or stupid.  I haven't enjoyed Will at all since GW took over.

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HAHAHA! I cracked up when after ten minutes of typing and completely avoiding the space bar, Will had three sentences. Also thank you Sonny for laying it all out on the line today: Will doesn't seem to think anymore of you than he thinks of himself. Also Sonny defended Paul so quickly- or rather turned Will's words back on him so quickly- my eyes bugged out. John cruising around the park was so random and, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't John LOADED? Why is he going around free loading on everybody for this benefit? Why doesn't he just donate the money for the uniforms and equipment? The ironic part of the Will situation is that, at this point, everyone wants Wilson to work it out- that article will probably be when the tide turns on him. And what the heck about the article is supposed to ruin Paul's life? If it's truthful, all it will mean is that his mother withheld the truth, but the actual printing of the article- what's the point? Like are kids going to walk  up to him, laughing and pointing, like "Haha, you're a Dimera!"? And Maggie- you're a flippin' Kiriakis now. You don't give a couple a picture on their anniversary- you give them an island!

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And he is completely wrong as well. You have to love those journalism skills. What's next, Paul has cooties?

 

Will may indeed by the worst fictional journalist of all time.  Him or Kelly Cramer on OLTL, who managed to make it to a court hearing she was supposed to cover AFTER it was over (way to go, Lois Lane!).

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I laughed my ass off as soon as Will sat down with a determined look on his face to his lap-top. Wow, he really is turning into his mother. Yeah, you'll show 'em, Will! *rolls eyes*

 

Today had a lack of the horrible Dan/Jennifer/Paige/Eve/JJ/Liam love clusterfuck and thank god. It's just weird. It's just absolutely weird that a 50-year old guy would get himself involved in a situation that doesn't even concern a daughter or underaged, non-consenting people. These are college kids. They should be off having hook-ups and flirtations, not this crap. They didn't even give Paige a viable alternative. (Come on, that guy just isn't that cute.)

 

Billy Flynn's eyes are extremely pretty. I guess we're supposed to take that Chad is friends with Sonny again? I had a friend who told me once that Billy looks exactly like a guy he a regrettable sexual encounter back in college with and it makes him hard to look at, LOL. (No, I'm not implying this is the same guy. That guy would be like 35 now.)

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So when do we hear the role of Will has been recast? Can't come soon enough for me...this s/l needed good acting in all 3 roles. Sparkle looks like an Oscar contender next to GW. Freddie has been awesome too bad he has to act with someone so inept.

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So when do we hear the role of Will has been recast? Can't come soon enough for me...this s/l needed good acting in all 3 roles. Sparkle looks like an Oscar contender next to GW. Freddie has been awesome too bad he has to act with someone so inept.

 

Guy Wilson is still taping.

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Guy Wilson is still taping.

Guy Wilson is still taping.

That is unfortunate. Is he a relative of Corday or some higher up at NBC? He has few fans from what I can see, just based on the posts on Facebook people don't like him...and I don't mean the character of Will.

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It's sad to see a character disintegrate like this -- and I mean Will, of course. 

 

Poor Theresa! I was so pissed at Eve last week for shrugging Theresa off, but their scenes today were really sweet. More of that please, show. And, Theresa, don't fret -- there's a little bundle of something that'll fill up that empty space soon enough. 

 

C'mon, Mel, just tell Brady what you're thinking so neither one of you gets blindsided again. Arrgh. 

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I really enjoyed today's show. 

 

I'm not the biggest John fan, but laughed when he stopped Paul from leaving and just seemed so happy about the benefit. They were all so tense and he just had such enthusiasm. Way to read a room John.

 

The Kate and Lucas scenes were also good and brought back old times. More Roberts family!  I'm glad Lucas preemptively told her to back off his job. Kate would so take Lucas out for power or at least finagle her way into a top position at Mad World.

 

I thought Ben would take a hint when Abigail seemed less than thrilled to move in. He really is dumb to bring up EJ.  I wish the writers would just have Chad continue to ignore Abigail. That would probably be the best revenge since she can't handle rejection. I really just wish that they would move Chad away from this storyline.

 

I've thought of Chad being closer to Sonny over the past few years because they were business partners and he revealed to Sonny that he was being blackmailed by Nick.  When Chad first came on the scene I thought he was Will's romantic rival for Mia.  I know Will/Chad became friends after that though.  

 

I also loved the Eve/Theresa scenes. It made for more rounded characters and I needed to see Eve actually show affection for Theresa. Theresa seems to seek out Eve and it was starting to feel like a one sided relationship. I don't think Theresa is cold or unloving, I just think that she is self-destructive and picks the wrong men to be with. She also lashes out even when people reach out to her.  I hope the Bradys get more involved in her storyline as it fleshes out more and that she accepts them as a support system. 

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Did anyone else thought it was really cute when Chad kissed Sonny on his head?

Memememe! I loved it! It was so cute and so refreshing! I love their friendship (I choose to forget wtf w

I was laughing myself silly at John's complete inability to read his audience. He's such the center of his own universe. You can see where Sparkle gets it.

"YOU did this to us!" Oh Sonny, be still my beating heart. That was deeply, deeply satisfying. Pity it went right over Will's stupid head.

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I really don't know who is worse between KM and the guy who plays plastic mannequin. Just awfulness all around. I really don't understand why KM can't leave like all the other younger actors do.

 

KM won't leave beacuse she doesn't have any other options and she really isn't talented enough to get a role on a network show or even a movie.

 

On the other hand, JL and KDP were excellent in their Eve/Theresa sisterly bonding moments and it's about damn time.  They need to be each other's best friends because they don't have anyone else.

 

I just realized that Melanie and Sneasel are having the same exact reactions to their significant other's ex-lover.  Mel is acting sad and out of sorts because Theresa still loves Brady.  So what?  Is Brady giving any sign that he wants to get back together with Theresa?  Let it go, Jonas. And Will's about to have a fit everytime he sees Paul and Sonny in the same vicinity.  Will, you muckraking hack, step away from the laptop and ignore Paul--it's Sonny you need to focus on.

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KM won't leave beacuse she doesn't have any other options and she really isn't talented enough to get a role on a network show or even a movie.

 

 

 

She's  pretty by real world standards, but I think the symmetry of her face isn't what I usually see in prime time and movies. I don't know if her face is asymmetrical, but every time her face pops up on the screen I keep looking at it to figure out why it bugs me so much despite the fact she's slim and clearly not anywhere near ugly. And I think she might already be too old for Woody Allen too....

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I wish the writers would take a look at the comments you all make on this board.  They just might - maybe, anyway - get a CLUE as to what works and what doesn't.  You've all made tons of comments on the Sonny/Sparkle/Sneasel storyline, with differing opinions and insights, all of them interesting, showing that this storyline has legs. Same with the JJ/Eve/Jenn story line.   You've all also zeroed in on how nice it was to see Eve and Theresa interacting as adults, on Chad and his actions, his friendship with Sonny, etc.  Mel in detective mode, and Theresa's unkown baby storyline, that's also getting some attention.  

One thing that has barely been mentioned is today's Abigail segment, other than Ollie's EJ comment.  Maybe Show would see that we JUST DON'T CARE about Abigail, or her relationships or anything else about her.  

 

Today's show started with yet another of Abigail running into someone - literally, and all I wished is that Show would stop with the run-ins and switch to random punching of Abigail or Jenn every time they slam into someone.  Then we saw her simper and roll her lazy eye at Chad, doing everything but flashing the guy.  Poor Ollie better start unpacking his G.I.Joe collection, because very soon they'll be the only other plastic playthings in his apartment.  Abigail isn't moving in with him, she's taking up residence in Chad's shower.  

And other than feeling sorry for Chad, does anyone care?

I did hope, though, when Chad told Abigail he'd been telling the board that she needed help, that he meant involuntary committment to a locked psychiatric facility.

 

 John cruising around the park was so random and, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't John LOADED? Why is he going around free loading on everybody for this benefit? Why doesn't he just donate the money for the uniforms and equipment? 

 

I'm not the biggest John fan, but laughed when he stopped Paul from leaving and just seemed so happy about the benefit. They were all so tense and he just had such enthusiasm. Way to read a room John.

 

The Kate and Lucas scenes were also good and brought back old times. More Roberts family!  I'm glad Lucas preemptively told her to back off his job. Kate would so take Lucas out for power or at least finagle her way into a top position at Mad World.

 

 

I also loved the Eve/Theresa scenes. It made for more rounded characters and I needed to see Eve actually show affection for Theresa. Theresa seems to seek out Eve and it was starting to feel like a one sided relationship. I don't think Theresa is cold or unloving, I just think that she is self-destructive and picks the wrong men to be with. She also lashes out even when people reach out to her.  I hope the Bradys get more involved in her storyline as it fleshes out more and that she accepts them as a support system. 

 

I was laughing myself silly at John's complete inability to read his audience. He's such the center of his own universe. You can see where Sparkle gets it.

 

Oh God you nailed it.  There's our Jawn, lurching into the park like he's missing ball bearings in his feet, dancing from side to side so his thighs don't touch, throwing just a bit more of his manly macho dancing machine while talking to the boys and somehow missing Sneasel in full Rabid Weasel Face, Sonny in his WTF, JAWN face, and sad lil' Sparkle looking like he mislaid his Hello Kitty lunchbox.  But Jawn just blathers on and ON and ON about this benefit.  And as you say, the guy is loaded so why not donate that pocket change and make those darn kids happy?  

I hope he at least ended his day back with "Doc", since she knows better than anyone how to replace any of his robot parts that might be causing all that lurching.  

 

I always love it when Show gives us some Kate and Lucas.  Both the characters and the actors just work so well together.  They can say anything, speak the truth, and the worst that happens is a raised eyebrow.  I'm a bit surprised that Kate hasn't figured out yet that Victor had more to do with her losing her job than she thinks.  

One thing - Kate being out as CEO at Dimera might be big news on the business page, but I just don't see the whole town giving a damn.  

 

Eve and Theresa were terrific today.   Anyone who didn't tune in much would have trouble reconciling this Eve with the JJ/Jenn one.  Here we saw an actual CALM adult, caring about her sister, being supportive and not being impatient.  And we got to see Theresa's softer side, the real vulnerability and hurt there. 

On a shallower note, Jenn Lilley looks great with or without makeup.

 

I really love the relationship between Eve and Theresa.  The new writers need to move Eve out of the Devereaux bubble and let her interact with other characters.  Has KdP shared scenes with anyone other than Paige, Theresa, Eric, Dan, or JJ/Jen/Abigail?

 

I like Melanie when she's in sleuth mode.  If she'd just stop the baby talking and dial back the affected mannerisms then I wouldn't mind her at all.

 

Guy Wilson needs to be replaced.  I can't identify or sympathize with Will or begin to understand his moronic choices because of the actor.

 

I liked Mel today too and I also enjoy her in sleuth mode.  I didn't even mind her with Maggie, or Brady today.  Probably because with her being in sleuth mode, she dispensed with the giggling and the toothiness, but whatever, this Mel can stay.  On general principles, I'm opposed to any Jonas' getting more airtime but I'll take the good whenever Shows gives us some.

 

I was so ready to see Chandler Massey exit, after he replaced any attempt at acting with that goofy grin he used for every scene, every emotion, in his last few months.  I didn't know if it was a lack of talent or a lack of interest on his part, but it was annoying.  

Now I feel the same way about the pickle puss Guy Wilson uses constantly.  That is distracting, too.  GW has a lot of acting to his credit, going by what I see on his IMDB profile, but something isn't working here.  Either the pace of the show, or the demands of the storyline, he's just not making it.

And for him being the next Sami, ah, well, NO.  Just NO.  

Kate has been known to poison people who got on her bad side.

 

And I see no reason for Show to retire this most excellent skill of hers!

 

I really enjoyed today's show. 

 

Me too!  Wasn't that a nice feeling!??!

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Wait Theresa and Brady's baby has been born?   Sorased fetus?  Or a plot point where Kristen gave the kid miracle grow?  or it's not their kid at all and the blood is to fake the test just to mess with their limited brain cells?    So many questions.

 

Why does Will think anybody would care if Paul was Stefano's son?  I mean people have given all the rest of his kids a chance to prove themselves.  Why wouldn't they give Paul that chane?  And sure it would be awkward for Paul to find out, but still....   I just don't see what Will thinks he's going to accomplish with his silly  and off base speculation.   

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Why does Will think anybody would care if Paul was Stefano's son?   

 

Why does Will think anyone would be surprised that Stephano has another kid coming out of nowhere? Paul's paternity would  be scintillating if he turned out to be JFK's love child...and we know that's not a possibility given Paul's age...

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Wait Theresa and Brady's baby has been born?   Sorased fetus?  Or a plot point where Kristen gave the kid miracle grow?  or it's not their kid at all and the blood is to fake the test just to mess with their limited brain cells?    So many questions.

Given Soap World, it isn't that big a surprise. When was Kristen last on?

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I'm still hoping that Paul is John's kid and a Dimera. What if Tori is a Dimera somehow-? A Brady+Horton/Kiriakis/Dimera romance/rivalry? Yes, please.

 

Isn't John a Dimera, or did that get retconned again?

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Yeah, I'm not sure Chandler could have made this work, either.  The difference for me is that I liked Chandler and would have fanwanked why he cheated on Sonny, since the show isn't giving me any reason for it.  He came across as Sami Brady's coddled (and therefore entitled and inept) son and was for whatever reason more sympathetic and relatable.  

Sometimes I think the show overplays its hand when it comes to what the audience will accept when they like an actor more than the character (AZ/Nicole!), but in the case of Will, I think the opposite has been true. Will worked, for the most part, because of CM's personal charm (smirking aside!). I don't think the writing for Will has changed all that much, but our perception of him sure has, and it's completely due to the actors' relatability (or in GW's case, the lack thereof). As arrogant as CM's Will could be, his interactions with Marlena and Kate, for example, gave us something to hang our hopes that he wasn't a truly terrible person on. Unfortunately, GW doesn't seem to have that same easy chemistry with anyone. 

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KM won't leave beacuse she doesn't have any other options and she really isn't talented enough to get a role on a network show or even a movie.

 

 

She could probably get hired to do some Lifetime movie. She could play a dead eyed soulless nympho sociopath. That seems to be in her wheelhouse. 

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Hope got a phone call and apparently it was all a lie- John's back to being background-less.

LOL, I love this -- such a soap move. Remember that thing that lasted forever and made characters do things that were out of character? Yeah, we didn't mean it. And via a phone call no less. 

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Sometimes I think the show overplays its hand when it comes to what the audience will accept when they like an actor more than the character (AZ/Nicole!), but in the case of Will, I think the opposite has been true. Will worked, for the most part, because of CM's personal charm (smirking aside!). I don't think the writing for Will has changed all that much, but our perception of him sure has, and it's completely due to the actors' relatability (or in GW's case, the lack thereof). As arrogant as CM's Will could be, his interactions with Marlena and Kate, for example, gave us something to hang our hopes that he wasn't a truly terrible person on. Unfortunately, GW doesn't seem to have that same easy chemistry with anyone. 

I prefer Chandler over Guy as Will and I can see his limitations as an actor. I think Julia Roberts is a one note actress, who plays the same role in all of her movies, and she won an Oscar, but, I digress. Therefore, I understand people having their personal preferences when it comes to actors, what I find disturbing is the way that some people attack Guy Wilson. You can dislike an actor without being vile and disgusting. There are people who harass this man on tweeter, it is awful how they pick him apart. I don't know how he puts up with it, I would not go on social media at all. They attack his looks, his acting, e.t.c..

 

Every time Will does something horrible, they attack him viciously. These are not teens or even tweens doing this..These are adults in their 50's and 60's and they enlist their friends on tweeter to bother him on a daily basis...I have plenty of actors that I find to be horrible in all genres of entertainment, but, I would never attack them in such a horrible way...At the end of the day, this is a human being with feelings. People need to be mindful of that when criticizing Will the character versus Guy Wilson the actor..Some of the loons online, cannot seem to make the distinction between fantasy and reality. You can even criticize the actor without demeaning them as a human being. 

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Ha, Apprentice -- Julia Roberts could be in the very best film to come out in decades and I would still avoid it because she's in it : )

 

Social media is both a blight and a boon to society -- glad I'm not in the public eye. 

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People in Salem should get pedestrian collision insurance. Abby and Chad literally careened into each other. Watching Abby simper and preen under Chad's gaze makes me want to hurl. As Dorothy once said about Blanche who was a sure bet to sleep with a guy on an episode of Golden Girls "her eyes are as good as rolled back."

 

Ollie had the snap of the day with the quick quip: "Did EJ read the book?" Looks like Ken doll has claws. My little black heart grows twice its size when Abby is reminded of her past .... shall we say transgressions? She went off in a huff didn't she. Truth hurts?

 

What was going on with Adrienne's hair? It looked like it was combed with a hand blender. Her makeup wasn't too great either. Judi is an attractive woman don't know what was going on today.  

 

Will just seems slightly unhinged to me. There is nothing Sami-like about him. Sami was maybe delusional sometimes but not unhinged. Never mind that he has no charm or charisma. He just has no rootability. He was lucky enough to find love and he threw it away for what exactly? A story? Because he married too young? Didn't sleep around enough? Don't know. Don't care. Thing is now he desperately wants to save his marriage. Instead of laying himself prostate at the feet of his husband and begging for forgiveness of his sins, he is trying to blame his actions, HIS ACTIONS on Sonny, on on Sonny and Paul's past relationship, unearthing Paul's paternity, trying to blackmail Paul's mom and writing nonsensical articles based on facts he doesn't even have, which I hope ruins his journalistic career.  I don't know what the hell kind of article he is writing. Since when does a picture of someone standing at a lake house on someone's property establish paternity? If that is the case, let my ass go buy a plane ticket to London and go stand in Michael Fassbender's yard. This isn't even TMZ journalism. 

 

At this point I just find Paul inscrutable and unreadable. I just can't make him out!

 

I love Nicole but I am ready to boink her over the head with a fireplace poker Theresa style. Don't get me wrong I hate Dan. He is an asswipe of biblical proportions but jeez lady get a damn clue. You lowered yourself to shave his little muskrat face. He has rejected you on numerous, numerous occasions based on some rather specious and hypocritical reasoning. If a man doesn't answer your text messages, hangs up on your ass when you call him, you don't go over to his damn house. Point. blank. period. Okay, so she lowers herself and goes over anyway and gets the door slammed in her face. That isn't enough for her? She stands there to eavesdrop, rushes in to confront him, gets blown off again! Then follows him to the hospital?!!? I actually threw my hands in the air at that point. Who knew that there was a sub basement to pathetic? The writers are just determined to ruin one of the best actresses on the show. Why? I really don't see what the point of that is. We get it. Nicole is pathetic and sad. It also doesn't help Dan either who they seem to love and have made the male lead of the show. 

 

So I guess the Thrady baby has been born already. Damn! I agree with the majority of you that Mel is better in detective mode but I am still not loving this story and feel that it deserved umbrella treatment with more vets who have had more Kristen experience, not just low budget Veronica Mars who had just been re-introduced onto the canvas with a new romance with half the affected couple doing all the leg work. 

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I miss Chandler Massy, but I'm glad I don't have to see him playing Will as this ultra-stupid. I would continue liking CM the actor, but I could still see myself turning on Will.

 

I have continued liking certain actors (JS?!) despite the foolishness of their characters' actions (EJ) and I think that has carried over into probably conveniently overlooking some of the character's weaknesses just so I could watch the actor, but I could see myself being far more conflicted in the case of Will/CM --  in that I could actually see myself withering in PAIN watching CM have to say some of current Will's lines: "But you were with other guys before we were married..." Having to watch CM play this would actually make me cry whereas I don't think I have ever quite  as emotional watching JS play out a lot of EJ's stupidity. Maybe there's something about CM's face  that makes me want to see whatever incarnation of a character he's playing do well?

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Finally caught up on a week's worth of shows

 

Loved seeing Paul Telfer as Xander - he's so yummy - loved the interactions with Nicole (I really hope we see that double date) & I do hope that he's actually Alexander (there are many ways they can explain the accent & I would accept whatever they choose just as long as he's a Kiriakis) - we need a bad-ass Kiriakis in the house to take over for Victor - plus I'd love to see his interactions with Sonny, Justin & Adrienne.

 

Nice scenes with Chad/Theo & Chad/Sonny - can we have more of those over the scenes with Abifail?    Can't a bus be dropped on her?

 

Can we also have more scenes with Eve & Theresa?    Those are more enjoyable than the million scenes of Eve with JJ & Paige  - I need her to stop butting into her daughter's love life.

 

Loved Jennifer's gray dress with the flowers - just gorgeous - I want one.

 

Hate Dr. Tan - he can fall off a bridge with Abifail anytime now.   He's just a waste of space.

 

Ignored the scenes with Abifail & Bollie - makes my enjoyment of the show better when I breeze thru them

 

Will, Will, Will - I want to like you but every time you screech about Paul - it makes me want to stab you - he didn't force you to have sex with him - own up to what you did & stop whining & crying about it.    Sonny is really the only one that I care about in this stupid triangle - he deserves so much better.

 

Nice to see T again - wish he'd be on instead of Bollie

 

Loved the Lucas/Kate scenes - those are always enjoyable & I liked the scenes with Adrienne - still not sure if I want a romance between them but I will say I'm kind of intrigued by it.

 

 

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I don't normally watch or read many cast interviews, so I decided to look up GW interviews a few weeks ago to see if his smarm was just a Will-thing, and I was amazed at how a)much better looking he is off the show and b)how likable he seems. Then it made me want to like Will, but I just...can't. The writing is not helping at all right now, but I hope they give him something better to work with and see if he steps up to the challenge. 

I think his acting is fair game for criticism, but I don't get the personal attacks. I have a mean-spirited, vindictive side, but I try to reserve that for people who have truly done me or my loved ones wrong. Thankfully, I still have the ability to separate real life from television. Sad that some don't.

 

Back to the show. I still find Lucas/Adrienne kinda gross together, but I was struck at their brief conversation yesterday. It was weird seeing two adults behaving like...adults. Same with Theresa and Eve. I kept waiting for Eve to get all snarky, but I'm so pleased that she didn't!  I hope we get to see that kind of stuff more often from her.

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Will just seems slightly unhinged to me. There is nothing Sami-like about him. Sami was maybe delusional sometimes but not unhinged. Never mind that he has no charm or charisma. He just has no rootability. He was lucky enough to find love and he threw it away for what exactly? A story? Because he married too young? Didn't sleep around enough? Don't know. Don't care. Thing is now he desperately wants to save his marriage. Instead of laying himself prostate at the feet of his husband and begging for forgiveness of his sins, he is trying to blame his actions, HIS ACTIONS on Sonny, on on Sonny and Paul's past relationship, unearthing Paul's paternity, trying to blackmail Paul's mom and writing nonsensical articles based on facts he doesn't even have, which I hope ruins his journalistic career.  I don't know what the hell kind of article he is writing. Since when does a picture of someone standing at a lake house on someone's property establish paternity? If that is the case, let my ass go buy a plane ticket to London and go stand in Michael Fassbender's yard. This isn't even TMZ journalism. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think  Sami was a strange mixture of insecurity and confidence (or bravado?). Whereas Will is just insecure....but it's that weird kind of insecure where you kind of wish Oprah would tell him to get off her stage.  Normal insecurity is kind of harmless, but Will's is the kind that makes you want to smack him upside the head.

 

If Sami was in Will's shoes right now, I think she'd be telling herself that Sonny really does in fact love her rather than fixated on whatever Paul had done with Sonny. Or at least that's how she seemed to be in her youth. Switch Austin's name in for Sonny and I think you'd know what I mean.  Sami would pretty much eliminate in her mind what she think Sonny had done with Paul, and move to the task of making the guy remember why he likes her (or, uh, plotting, but at least all the whining would come out after Marlena and Carrie had found she was plotting. I can't recall her whining while she was actually performing the plotting like Will does). 

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I think Sami while insecure and delusional was also capable and determined.  Most of Sami's scheming and plotting was done to get some guy to love her and want to be a family with her, or for revenge.  Will already had a husband who loved him, and a happy family with Sonny and Ari which he ruined.  I just don't believe Will is like Sami at all.  Not in the way he does things, or his reasons.  Of course, Sami, Nicole, and Kate to a lesser extent, have all been watered down from how they used to be.

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There is nothing wrong with criticizing an actor's performance. Rob Wilson who plays Ben was so much better on All My Children than he is on Days. I think it is the poor writing of the show that is affecting their performances...I want him  to stick around. The same goes for  Chrishell Stause, she was awesome as Amanda on All My Children. Melissa Archer was awesome as Natalie on One Life to Live, she is awful as Serena...Sarah Joy Brown was great as Carly on General Hospital, but Madison was awful..  Ian Buchanan is great on General Hospital as Duke Lavery, he had an awful role on Days. The writing on this show is just so bad and so nonsensical....I am not too happy with Higley coming back, but I will take her over this current writing team...

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Unfortunately this is life in the public eye.  Soap actors in particular have had to deal with unhinged people who can't or won't separate the character from the actor,  and that was long before facebook and twitter.  With that said, I don't do social media and so am insulated from the type of behavior you're describing.  I haven't seen anyone here attack or demean GW.  His acting is fair game for criticism as far as I'm concerned, same for everyone else on the show.

 

I prefer Chandler over Guy as Will and I can see his limitations as an actor. I think Julia Roberts is a one note actress, who plays the same role in all of her movies, and she won an Oscar, but, I digress. Therefore, I understand people having their personal preferences when it comes to actors, what I find disturbing is the way that some people attack Guy Wilson. You can dislike an actor without being vile and disgusting. There are people who harass this man on tweeter, it is awful how they pick him apart. I don't know how he puts up with it, I would not go on social media at all. They attack his looks, his acting, e.t.c..

 

Every time Will does something horrible, they attack him viciously. These are not teens or even tweens doing this..These are adults in their 50's and 60's and they enlist their friends on tweeter to bother him on a daily basis...I have plenty of actors that I find to be horrible in all genres of entertainment, but, I would never attack them in such a horrible way...At the end of the day, this is a human being with feelings. People need to be mindful of that when criticizing Will the character versus Guy Wilson the actor..Some of the loons online, cannot seem to make the distinction between fantasy and reality. You can even criticize the actor without demeaning them as a human being. 

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Rob Wilson who plays Ben was so much better on All My Children than he is on Days.

 

I really liked Rob Wilson as Pete(y) Cortlandt on AMC, even though he was saddled with a bad pairing there too.

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I don't think I can wrap my brain around the revisionist history that Abby was blabbing today.  According to Abs, EJ used her dad's book as a way to get to her.  Really?  Was this also when they were discussing great art and literature which also happened on another show because all I remember is Miss Abigail throwing herself at EJ and that she was more than eager to be his mistress.

 

But I guess the writers want us to forget what actually happened and to just follow the feed in Abby's deluded little mind.

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Do the writers expect us to buy this nonsense?  I hated Sami being with EJ, and I really hate that she reconciled with him, but I will admit that EJ's freaking Sami obsession never goes away.  EJ did not pursue the boring twit.  Slappy was easy, and EJ is a slut.  I hope he stays dead so Sami is free of him forever, and I believe EJ would have cheated again because he is a serial cheater, and he will never be able to control Sami.  However, Sami can move on and be happily married to someone else, EJ can be married to someone else, and EJ will still obsess about Sami.  Either how to get her to be with him, or how to ruin her life.

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side piece used her daddy's book to throw herself at EJ.

She sure is trashing EJ.  If he was all that bad why did she want to be his permanent side piece?   Because after three humps he did not want her.

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Abifail can kick rocks straight to hell with her lying nasty ass. She knows damn well EJ didn't manipulate her. She sure looked like a willing participant when she was dropping her panties and busting it open for him in the shower and supply closet. 

 

Dan and Nicole are the new Dannifer so I have no faith that this insipid pairing is finally over. They'll be back together in a couple of weeks. 

 

I don't understand what they're doing with Will. He FINALLY admittes to Sonny's face that he needs to take responsibility for what he did but he still going to write the article. Why? He and Sonny had a nice moment and Sonny seemed interested in trying to repair their marriage so I don't understand why Will would think writing that article would help him.

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Wow, I haven't even watched today's episode yet and I'm enraged at Abigail. She and EJ were pleasant and friendly after they found a few things of interest in common. Then EJ was dispatched to the lake house to stop her from doing something about the Nick fake drowning....oh hell, you all know this. Ugh. 

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Abifail can kick rocks straight to hell with her lying nasty ass. She knows damn well EJ didn't manipulate her. She sure looked like a willing participant when she was dropping her panties and busting it open for him in the shower and supply closet. 

 

Dan and Nicole are the new Dannifer so I have no faith that this insipid pairing is finally over. They'll be back together in a couple of weeks. 

 

I don't understand what they're doing with Will. He FINALLY admittes to Sonny's face that he needs to take responsibility for what he did but he still going to write the article. Why? He and Sonny had a nice moment and Sonny seemed interested in trying to repair their marriage so I don't understand why Will would think writing that article would help him.

These writers are just hacks...They keep making Will unsympathetic...He is going to lose his family due to his own petty jealousy...He is going to lose big when Sonny finds out about the depth of his hatred for Sparkle..Sparkle would not even be an issue for him, had he remained faithful to Sonny.. Sparkle did not rape him, he asked him if he wanted to sleep with him and he said YES! Sonny seems to be ready to forgive him and he is blowing it...He is really a dumbass....What an idiot! He deserves to suffer and lose big time....

 

On other note: Freddie got nominated for a Daytime Emmy..Ever since Chandler's exit from the show, he has gotten his turn to shine..Congratulations to him..I hope he wins....

 

Baby Ari is so cute..She loves everybody and is very comfortable with the cast. I loved her with uncle Rafe...

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I prefer Chandler over Guy as Will and I can see his limitations as an actor. I think Julia Roberts is a one note actress, who plays the same role in all of her movies, and she won an Oscar, but, I digress. Therefore, I understand people having their personal preferences when it comes to actors, what I find disturbing is the way that some people attack Guy Wilson. You can dislike an actor without being vile and disgusting. There are people who harass this man on tweeter, it is awful how they pick him apart. I don't know how he puts up with it, I would not go on social media at all. They attack his looks, his acting, e.t.c..

 

Every time Will does something horrible, they attack him viciously. These are not teens or even tweens doing this..These are adults in their 50's and 60's and they enlist their friends on tweeter to bother him on a daily basis...I have plenty of actors that I find to be horrible in all genres of entertainment, but, I would never attack them in such a horrible way...At the end of the day, this is a human being with feelings. People need to be mindful of that when criticizing Will the character versus Guy Wilson the actor..Some of the loons online, cannot seem to make the distinction between fantasy and reality. You can even criticize the actor without demeaning them as a human being. 

 

 

I had a small runin with a person on Twitter yesterday about their horrible comments about Guy, but they are apparently not brave enough to respond when they are criticized.

 

There is nothing wrong with criticizing an actor's performance. Rob Wilson who plays Ben was so much better on All My Children than he is on Days. I think it is the poor writing of the show that is affecting their performances...I want him  to stick around. The same goes for  Chrishell Stause, she was awesome as Amanda on All My Children. Melissa Archer was awesome as Natalie on One Life to Live, she is awful as Serena...Sarah Joy Brown was great as Carly on General Hospital, but Madison was awful..  Ian Buchanan is great on General Hospital as Duke Lavery, he had an awful role on Days. The writing on this show is just so bad and so nonsensical....I am not too happy with Higley coming back, but I will take her over this current writing team...

 

There is no problem with criticizing an actor, but there is a problem when they are attacked personally.  It gets to be disgusting.

Why the big deal about Jack's book?  What was it about?  And while I'm asking questions, why does Eve get proceeds from its sales?

 

Jack wrote a book about his exploits overseas, but it also included a confession that he had raped Kayla, which made JJ go on a vandalism spree.

 

Eve was married to Jack for an instant.

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