S14.E15: Trouble in Paradise

[Baltimore Betty]

13 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

It wasn't about her career or tying to find love or planning future babies.

Yeah, that has got to stop with these HW's! Fake wanting a baby at forty nine and three quarters with a man you have not even made the basic plans of living together or saying "I love you." Plus throwing in the meh drama of having fibroids on top of the fact your eggs are non-existent...I am so tired of that crap load of a story line.

 

[hoodooznoodooz]

14 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

I don't think Dorit and PK's "break" is fake. 

Neither do I. If it were fake, Dorit would not declare on camera that PK is an alcoholic and list all of their financial shenanigans. Nor would she have lost her appetite and dropped five to eight pounds.

Edited March 14 by hoodooznoodooz

[Dr Mama]

18 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

she is genuine friends with Garcelle off the show. 
Garcelle doesn’t always defend Sutton, she actually calls Sutton out and understands Sutton’s fault. Sutton is still close friends with Crystal and boy did that get off to a really bad start.

Yep--and it is definitely one of the reasons I tend to trust Sutton's take on things more than some of the other HWs. If she and Crystal could become friends IRL, and continue to be friends after Crystal was off the show, I think she's likely to be a good friend and a fun person to hang out with outside of the show.

[Rlb8031]

3 hours ago, Pi237 said:

Weird to me that the wives automatically get to stay in the house while the husbands have to get small apartments. Of course, it makes the most sense logistically, not disrupting the kids and the men were traveling a lot anyway. Guess it’s the different tax bracket cuz here with the poors, the one who cheated is usually kicked out, usually the man, who will fight tooth and nail to get full custody & the house to avoid paying support.  If no one cheated, it’s whomever asked for the divorce first that usually leaves. But they’re rich so I guess it’s not a hardship when you need to start all over again in a new residence.

 

It's not weird to me. Big houses come with responsibilities - keeping track of the landscapers, the pool guy, deliveries, utilities, making sure the cameras and alarm system don't go off when the dogs go out, feeding and walking the dogs etc. (Ex-) Husbands move out, move into a 3-4 room apartment, hire a cleaning lady and get Doordash and it's like they are back in college, footloose and fancy free. 

F*(% that...I'd be out of the door with my overnight bag and let Mauricio have all the rest of it to deal with. No way we are breaking up AND you are getting to relive your mis-spent youth while I'm chauffeuring pre-teens, cleaning up cat vomit and arguing with the gardener about whether the grass should be cut once or twice a month. 

The problem is that all of these ladies are so afraid of the optics. No one wants to go from 50k sq ft to a one- or two-bedroom apartment. Think about how mercilessly HWs get clowned for divorcing and moving into a townhouse or apartment. On Bravo, that is literally a fate worse than death.

[Dr Mama]

6 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Yeah, that has got to stop with these HW's! Fake wanting a baby at forty nine and three quarters with a man you have not even made the basic plans of living together or saying "I love you." Plus throwing in the meh drama of having fibroids on top of the fact your eggs are non-existent...I am so tired of that crap load of a story line.

 

That whole dinner seemed super awkward. Boz's daughter seemed open, friendly, and authentic, but it didn't seem that Boz and the boyfriend had much of a connection. I get that he flew all the way to Ghana just to spend time with her over the holidays, but by the time of this dinner, neither of them seemed that level of passionate about each other. I hear what they SAY, but I don't see it in what is shown on the show.

[Pi237]

1 hour ago, Rlb8031 said:

It's not weird to me. Big houses come with responsibilities - keeping track of the landscapers, the pool guy, deliveries, utilities, making sure the cameras and alarm system don't go off when the dogs go out, feeding and walking the dogs etc. (Ex-) Husbands move out, move into a 3-4 room apartment, hire a cleaning lady and get Doordash and it's like they are back in college, footloose and fancy free. 

F*(% that...I'd be out of the door with my overnight bag and let Mauricio have all the rest of it to deal with. No way we are breaking up AND you are getting to relive your mis-spent youth while I'm chauffeuring pre-teens, cleaning up cat vomit and arguing with the gardener about whether the grass should be cut once or twice a month. 

The problem is that all of these ladies are so afraid of the optics. No one wants to go from 50k sq ft to a one- or two-bedroom apartment. Think about how mercilessly HWs get clowned for divorcing and moving into a townhouse or apartment. On Bravo, that is literally a fate worse than death.

Excellent points! Never thought of that. It sure does seem like Mau and PJ are acting like they’re away from their mommies for the weekend. 

[Sweet-tea]

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Why did Kyle stop drinking? Did she ever say?

I don't remember all of it, but I do recall Kyle saying that even if she just has two drinks, she gets depressed and she can't afford to be depressed. Perhaps it had something to do with her friend dying. She also may have watched herself on the previous season and not liked what she saw. There were some scenes where Kyle was quite drunk, such as in one where she grabbed Sutton and got a little aggressive with her. 

3 hours ago, Dr Mama said:

That whole dinner seemed super awkward. Boz's daughter seemed open, friendly, and authentic, but it didn't seem that Boz and the boyfriend had much of a connection. I get that he flew all the way to Ghana just to spend time with her over the holidays, but by the time of this dinner, neither of them seemed that level of passionate about each other. I hear what they SAY, but I don't see it in what is shown on the show.

Boz and the boyfriend don't have much chemistry to me. He seems like he's going through motions. As you said, the words are right but the actions don't back it up. 

22 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

Regarding Kyle's status as a Housewife, part of why Kyle made a great anchor (like her or not) is because she initially fit what the franchise was supposed to be about-housewives! Kyle had a handsome husband, cute young kids, and her day-to-day was Mauricio and the girls. It wasn't about her career or tying to find love or planning future babies. Now she's separated, and all her kids are grown except for Portia, who will be leaving the nest soon too. 

I agree. I remember one show in the franchise that had no married women on it, so no housewives. Most of them are split between singles and housewives at best. I've questioned why they don't change the name of the show. But I guess they want to maintain the brand. 

Edited March 14 by Sweet-tea

[hoodooznoodooz]

2 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

She also may have watched herself on the previous season and not liked what she saw. There were some scenes where Kyle was quite drunk, such as in one where she grabbed Sutton and got a little aggressive with her. 

Kyle was very aggressive. She grabbed Sutton more than once. She shook Sutton like a rag doll.

[princelina]

8 hours ago, Rlb8031 said:

It's not weird to me. Big houses come with responsibilities - keeping track of the landscapers, the pool guy, deliveries, utilities, making sure the cameras and alarm system don't go off when the dogs go out, feeding and walking the dogs etc. (Ex-) Husbands move out, move into a 3-4 room apartment, hire a cleaning lady and get Doordash and it's like they are back in college, footloose and fancy free. 

F*(% that...I'd be out of the door with my overnight bag and let Mauricio have all the rest of it to deal with. No way we are breaking up AND you are getting to relive your mis-spent youth while I'm chauffeuring pre-teens, cleaning up cat vomit and arguing with the gardener about whether the grass should be cut once or twice a month. 

The problem is that all of these ladies are so afraid of the optics. No one wants to go from 50k sq ft to a one- or two-bedroom apartment. Think about how mercilessly HWs get clowned for divorcing and moving into a townhouse or apartment. On Bravo, that is literally a fate worse than death.

Agreed!  They should all be jealous of Erika's tidy little house (which could easily be better decorated 😄)  When they went from her house to the aerial view of Sutton's I couldn't believe one woman would want to live in and care for that place!  Even with Avi shimmying through the hallways.

Also: Kyle pretty much admitted it in this episode - she wanted Mo to stay in the bedroom down the hall until she was ready for him 😄

Also!  Who invited Kathy on this trip? 😡  Although her face looked very refreshed, and it looks like she has stopped using Caitlin Jenner's Plastic surgeon! 😄

Edited March 15 by princelina

[hoodooznoodooz]

“I wanted to be alone, and take advantage of what that looked like, and just be, you know, and run around and make decisions last-minute….”

Mauricio wants to know what it’s like to holiday without a control freak scheduling every flipping minute of his paid-time-off. 

Edited March 15 by hoodooznoodooz

[hoodooznoodooz]

I do like the red plaid dress Dorit wears in the After Show.

No logos, either.

Win, win.

[Crazydoxielady]

Dorit has all of this coming. PK had an entire family before her, and left them behind in England then married her. Why does she think this situation would go any different for her? She is so fake and such a fraudulent human being. She’s not funny or interesting and I truly would be fine with this being her Swan song on the show. I could care less that this is the only way she has to make her bills, it’s time for her to figure out what real work is, or  velcro herself to another rich man. It’s just questionable who would put up with her fake accent and never ending dialogue. 

Oh the Mau of it all. At this point, he’s completely checked out and is absolutely living his best life. It doesn’t make him an evil human being, he’s a very good looking man and yes these young silly little gold diggers are gonna go for that. It’s weird that he has daughters the same age and he’s attracted to these very young women (that’s he is likely having sex with), but as we all know, that’s how society works. Kyle wanted to queer bait all last season, also with a young woman…and is clearly still hanging around Morgan so what does she expect? You can’t have your cake & Morgan & Kesha…and eat it too silly little Kyle. I found it very interesting that when Porsche saw her father in the kitchen, she kept calling him “hot” and acting all weird. It seems that their time alone in Europe, has fostered a new relationship and I’m not quite sure what it is, but she seems to think fan girling around him is what he wants…. maybe it’s always been this way but I just found their interaction odd. It’s always hard to navigate divorce and Porcha is just finding her way to coexist with both of her parents reliving their wild and crazy sides.

Jennifer Tilly experiencing/witnessing the mean girl adjacent hazing we’ve all seen for years. Assuming they’d all be on a Kiki, when the reality is a scream fest most gatherings with someone storming off.  She is a delight however, and I’m glad Sutton has another ally beyond Garcelle.

Boz has a beautiful kind daughter. She hit the lottery with Lael. It’s a testament to Boz and her upbringing. Then we have to veer to Keely of questionable intentions and baby talk? After explaining the painful miscarriage before her daughter and the terrifying experience of carrying Lael? Boz, honey, hire the surrogate you know you need and stop this nonsense or I’ll keep fast forwarding thru your Keely scenes. I only tolerated this one because Lael was there and was beautifully asking all the questions any sane person would ask. It comes across as a desperate storyline. And if it’s not it makes me sad, as it speaks to Boz’s deep routed insecurities with men coupled with her intense desire for another child. 

Edited March 15 by Crazydoxielady

[Sweet-tea]

9 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Kyle was very aggressive. She grabbed Sutton more than once. She shook Sutton like a rag doll.

Yep and there were also those scenes of Kyle's drunken splits. I was glad to see the last of those. Maybe she got spooked by her behavior as addiction runs in her family. I don't like Kyle but I'm glad she had the courage to make a change in this area if there was something she didn't like about herself. Now I wish she'd do the same about several of her personality traits LOL. 

Edited March 15 by Sweet-tea

[Pi237]

I thought Porsha meant hot as in temperature, sweaty?  If she meant hot as attractive? Ew. Weird.

[Aim123]

On 3/12/2025 at 3:46 PM, bosawks said:

I don’t know what’s sadder, an almost 60 year old Mo saying he only partied 5 nights or an almost 60 year old Mo lying about only partying 5 nights.

Right? And something I noticed-- he said he liked getting to do things that were "not on a timeline". THIS was a clue for Kyle. Too controlling. Let me buy you some hand towels, let me set up your condo. He is saying NO to all of that, he didn't LIKE everything on the perfect timeline. He wants to go and just be off the clock. 

[ButterQueen]

Dorit has totally lost her accent.  I hate that toothpick with fake boobs.

[Surrealist]

8 hours ago, Aim123 said:

Right? And something I noticed-- he said he liked getting to do things that were "not on a timeline". THIS was a clue for Kyle. Too controlling. Let me buy you some hand towels, let me set up your condo. He is saying NO to all of that, he didn't LIKE everything on the perfect timeline. He wants to go and just be off the clock. 

It seems that Mau and PK have something else in common: overly controlling estranged wives.

[Stats Queen]

19 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

Yep and there were also those scenes of Kyle's drunken splits. I was glad to see the last of those. Maybe she got spooked by her behavior as addiction runs in her family. I don't like Kyle but I'm glad she had the courage to make a change in this area if there was something she didn't like about herself. Now I wish she'd do the same about several of her personality traits LOL. 

I am so glad we are not subjected to Kyle’s split. If it took her to stop drinking, so be it

[hoodooznoodooz]

Dorit did not seem happy with the blue two-piece swimsuit Boz gave them.

If Sutton did give her a Kelly, Dorit would complain that it wasn’t the one she wanted.

She sure is dedicated to her grift. Someone as cash-poor as she is should just be happy people are giving her items.

[hoodooznoodooz]

Why did Dorit and Erika celebrate and squee over the fact that Boz booked them together in the villa? That’s what anyone would do. Boz knows they’re friends, so they are going to be together.

[ivygirl]

2 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Why did Dorit and Erika celebrate and squee over the fact that Boz booked them together in the villa? That’s what anyone would do. Boz knows they’re friends, so they are going to be together.

I took note of that a bit, too. Has there been a HW trip where “enemies” have been forced to room together? 

[princelina]

3 minutes ago, ivygirl said:

I took note of that a bit, too. Has there been a HW trip where “enemies” have been forced to room together? 

Not that I can think of, but there are instances where someone would rather be with other "friends" - like Bronwyn on SLC this year!

[ivygirl]

7 minutes ago, princelina said:

Not that I can think of, but there are instances where someone would rather be with other "friends" - like Bronwyn on SLC this year!

That makes sense! I can see that. A LITTLE roomie drama, lol

[Salacious Kitty]

35 minutes ago, ivygirl said:

I took note of that a bit, too. Has there been a HW trip where “enemies” have been forced to room together? 

On Potomac, rooms were set up with people who weren't besties. Stacey was like Yay bunkbeds! And I get to share with (I forget who)! Yay! So, sometimes, the plan doesn't work. 

[lilmarysunshine]

About this storyline stuff and Boz’s fake one with wanting a baby …

I have watched reality shows since NYC’s “The Real World.” I just don’t think people have to have major life drama (divorces, marriages, babies) for a reality show to be interesting.

Am I alone in that? 

If I think of memorable HW moments, they are usually not surrounding that stuff. I mean the “family van” was just Vicki going to the airport. lol  

I also don’t think there has to be a lot of conflict. That is when they lose people, I think. Get mad and then get over it. Maybe they just are not good at picking the women. 

[njbchlover]

On 3/14/2025 at 2:59 PM, Rlb8031 said:

It's not weird to me. Big houses come with responsibilities - keeping track of the landscapers, the pool guy, deliveries, utilities, making sure the cameras and alarm system don't go off when the hired robbers clean out your wife's closet, the dogs go out, feeding and walking the dogs etc. (Ex-) Husbands move out, move into a 3-4 room apartment, hire a cleaning lady and get Doordash and it's like they are back in college, footloose and fancy free. 

F*(% that...I'd be out of the door with my overnight bag and let Mauricio have all the rest of it to deal with. No way we are breaking up AND you are getting to relive your mis-spent youth while I'm chauffeuring pre-teens, cleaning up cat vomit and arguing with the gardener about whether the grass should be cut once or twice a month. 

The problem is that all of these ladies are so afraid of the optics. No one wants to go from 50k sq ft to a one- or two-bedroom apartment. Think about how mercilessly HWs get clowned for divorcing and moving into a townhouse or apartment. On Bravo, that is literally a fate worse than death.

Fixed that for you!!  🤣

[njbchlover]

On 3/14/2025 at 7:26 PM, Sweet-tea said:

I don't remember all of it, but I do recall Kyle saying that even if she just has two drinks, she gets depressed and she can't afford to be depressed. Perhaps it had something to do with her friend dying. She also may have watched herself on the previous season and not liked what she saw. There were some scenes where Kyle was quite drunk, such as in one where she grabbed Sutton and got a little aggressive with her. 

 

 

On 3/14/2025 at 9:53 PM, hoodooznoodooz said:

Kyle was very aggressive. She grabbed Sutton more than once. She shook Sutton like a rag doll.

I think that Kyle did say that she didn't like what she saw of herself when she looked back on herself drinking.

I also wonder if Kyle may have become concerned for her own health because of Kim's constant struggles.  And, if I recall correctly, Big Kathy had some issues with alcohol, although I'm not sure if it was ever mentioned that she was an alcoholic.  

[ivygirl]

1 hour ago, lilmarysunshine said:

About this storyline stuff and Boz’s fake one with wanting a baby …

I have watched reality shows since NYC’s “The Real World.” I just don’t think people have to have major life drama (divorces, marriages, babies) for a reality show to be interesting.

Am I alone in that? 

If I think of memorable HW moments, they are usually not surrounding that stuff. I mean the “family van” was just Vicki going to the airport. lol  

I also don’t think there has to be a lot of conflict. That is when they lose people, I think. Get mad and then get over it. Maybe they just are not good at picking the women. 

Agreed! So many memorable moments happen without them being “big”—Kim and the “handmade” chicken salad; “oh look! The ponies are by the pool!”; Vince Van Patten peeking through the garage-door window; Maloof Hoof… 

And the “big” storylines are best when they’re organic—like, no one “made” Scandoval happen and it was a million times more attention-grabbing than anyone could have forced or dreamed up.

We don’t need strained storylines about maybe babies, Kyle’s “is she or isn’t she” stuff from last season, and so on.

[Surrealist]

1 hour ago, lilmarysunshine said:

About this storyline stuff and Boz’s fake one with wanting a baby …

I have watched reality shows since NYC’s “The Real World.” I just don’t think people have to have major life drama (divorces, marriages, babies) for a reality show to be interesting.

Am I alone in that? 

If I think of memorable HW moments, they are usually not surrounding that stuff. I mean the “family van” was just Vicki going to the airport. lol  

I also don’t think there has to be a lot of conflict. That is when they lose people, I think. Get mad and then get over it. Maybe they just are not good at picking the women. 

You're reading my mind. I agree with you. I don't need nonstop drama and ridiculous baby storylines to keep interested in a lifestyle reality show.

[Rahul]

On 3/12/2025 at 9:34 PM, Sweet-tea said:

I don’t know… She’s the OG of the entire franchise. Andy keeps asking her back, even after she’s had a bad season and not been very likable, like last season. She ran off LVP and Denise Richards.  There are probably others too, because she leads the mean girls. She has first billing in the credits. She’s had both her sisters on the show. Most of the women either suck up to her or at least try to stay on her good side. I’m guessing she is probably one of the highest paid HWs.

I think she does have power in terms of this show. 

Kyle's power probably comes from the fact that she's grown up in the "industry" and ingratiated herself with a producer or two (ie. Alex Baskinn), who has always had her back. Baskin has given Kyle a pretty good edit over the years, but most of us are perceptive enough to see through all the shenanigans and pegged Kyle for the mean girl nasty woman she really is.

On 3/13/2025 at 10:32 PM, bravofan27 said:

Why did Kyle stop drinking? Did she ever say?

Ozempic or whatever GLP-1 drug she's on does not mix well with alcohol and imbibing while on her weight management meds resulted in extreme nausea and sickness. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it!

[princelina]

4 hours ago, lilmarysunshine said:

About this storyline stuff and Boz’s fake one with wanting a baby …

I have watched reality shows since NYC’s “The Real World.” I just don’t think people have to have major life drama (divorces, marriages, babies) for a reality show to be interesting.

Am I alone in that? 

If I think of memorable HW moments, they are usually not surrounding that stuff. I mean the “family van” was just Vicki going to the airport. lol  

I also don’t think there has to be a lot of conflict. That is when they lose people, I think. Get mad and then get over it. Maybe they just are not good at picking the women. 

The problem, IMO, is that women who want to be on this type of show have narcissistic tendencies and compete to have the most "compelling" storylines.  Just like daytime talk shows - back when they first started in the late 80s/early 90s they were quite interesting as they interviewed different people with all kinds of quirks and weird lifestyles.  Once they figured out ratings came with humiliating people and big fights the whole genre was ruined!

3 hours ago, ivygirl said:

Agreed! So many memorable moments happen without them being “big”—Kim and the “handmade” chicken salad; “oh look! The ponies are by the pool!”; Vince Van Patten peeking through the garage-door window; Maloof Hoof… 

Haha I agree except for the VVP peeking through the window only happened because the ladies were out there acting like idiots! 😂

[hoodooznoodooz]

Erika’s landlord/landlady is going to keep her deposit in order to rip out all that MLB stuff for the next prospective tenant.

[Baltimore Betty]

4 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Erika’s landlord/landlady is going to keep her deposit in order to rip out all that MLB stuff for the next prospective tenant.

I wondered about that too, maybe in a behind the scenes off camera reality Erika ran all that wallpaper and light fixtures, etc...past the owner and gave her the thumbs up.

I know I am alone in liking all the wallpaper and decor, that decorator did it right. Look at Box's (I call her box and I don't know why), house, no decorator did that and her vibe is old lady from the 90's more is better faux designer look decor.

[Keywestclubkid]

40 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

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I know I am alone in liking all the wallpaper and decor, that decorator did it right. Look at Box's (I call her box and I don't know why), house, no decorator did that and her vibe is old lady from the 90's more is better faux designer look decor.

from what we have seen to me personally Boz house feels so cluttered ... i would get claustrophobic ... its not like Horder bad but its just to much stuff everywhere 

Edited March 17 by Keywestclubkid

[SweetieDarling]

6 hours ago, princelina said:

when they first started in the late 80s/early 90s they were quite interesting as they interviewed different people with all kinds of quirks and weird lifestyles.  Once they figured out ratings came with humiliating people and big fights the whole genre was ruined!

I blame Teresa Guidice (RHNJ) and the table flip heard 'round the world. I think the reaction to that made other HW in other franchises, and possibly several producers, think we the viewers wanted amped up drama and outbursts, because that one incident brought ratings.

I find the shows more entertaining when the women aren't so staged and camera aware...When they yell out things like "go blow your lips up some more" or being told to eat a breadstick and calm down. The dinner party from hell, eating a bow off of a DuBrow cake, all of the misspeaking (except Kathy Hilton -hers are practiced), the less than graceful walks, the incoordination (looking at you Vicki Gunvalson), the 9 lemons, the neuroses, passively aggressively ordering an air conditioner-chasing someone around a party smiling at them because you know it bothers them, these are the things that, to me, make the shows watchable, not the ridiculous drawn out arguments

[bravofan27]

On 3/14/2025 at 1:26 PM, hoodooznoodooz said:

Neither do I. If it were fake, Dorit would not declare on camera that PK is an alcoholic and list all of their financial shenanigans. Nor would she have lost her appetite and dropped five to eight pounds.

Dorit has changed. When she first started, her fashion was "eh" and she wore kind of dumb stuff. In the last couple of years she has become consumed with her outfit. Her first season, she asked Boy George if her outfit looked nice. Now, she is hyper focused. I think she is trying to find an identity. Especially after PK set her up to be robbed at gunpoint for insurance money. 

Trends change over time, and I think the yoga Pilates body is in right now, so that might be her thing. She's never really seemed that interested in food or talked about it. Kyle has expressed insecurity with her weight. Rinna was very obviously careful about what she ate and I think had a "good food bad food" list in her head. 

When you are single, the thinner you are, the more dates you get. Your face can be whack. White men value and romanticize thinness with goodness, self-restraint, and "taking care" your body.  It's just the way it is. Maybe Dorit is trying to get back on the market. Unfortunately, men don't realize the thinnest women are probably the least healthy. It's just the era we live in. It's not real. 

That said, I think it's easy for Dorit to not eat much, especially with "healthy weight" PK being absent and thus not being around food all the time. That man likes to eat and drink. I bet she's stressed to the max.

I do not believe for a minute PK is sober. He was the biggest asshole ever in the last episode and his face was red and his eyes were glossy. And he was kind of mean. Maybe he is doing coke. Coke can make you really internal and you just ride that high and don't care about anyone else. 

Edited March 17 by bravofan27

[princelina]

2 minutes ago, bravofan27 said:

When you are single, the thinner you are, the more dates you get. Your face can be whack.

She's got the trifecta - thin, big fake boobs, nice hair - the pretty face is a bonus but definitely not a requirement! 😂

[bravofan27]

3 minutes ago, princelina said:

She's got the trifecta - thin, big fake boobs, nice hair - the pretty face is a bonus but definitely not a requirement! 😂

You know, it's actually really true. It's society. I have friends who are gorgeous, and my husband and his friends think they are hideous because they are a little bigger. Men don't care about the "pretty face" thing, which is weird. That's all I notice on people. Who cares what they weigh. I am drawn to expressive eyes and a happy laugh. 

I think Dorit is well put-together. She's not gorgeous, but she does a good job with her makeup and hair to create the illusion of being pretty. 

Edited March 17 by bravofan27

[hoodooznoodooz]

On 3/17/2025 at 2:36 PM, bravofan27 said:

You know, it's actually really true. It's society. I have friends who are gorgeous, and my husband and his friends think they are hideous, because they are a little bigger. Men don't care about the "pretty face" thing, which is weird. That's all I notice on people. Who cares what they weigh. I am drawn to expressive eyes and a happy laugh. 

I think Dorit is well put-together. She's not gorgeous, but she does a good job with her makeup and hair to create the illusion of being pretty. 

I think a lot of black men appreciate curvier women. I took an acting class. Gerry was very cute/pretty, but had a few extra pounds on her. Only black men attracted her. White guys repulsed her. My friend Marcella’s theory was that Gerry only pursued black men, because they were more likely to appreciate her curves. 
 

Dorit presents herself well. But she does jabber. And takes twice as long as anyone else to make her point. And her Ramona Singer eyes are not attractive.

Her implants are much too big now.

Edited March 19 by hoodooznoodooz

[RealHousewife]

10 hours ago, princelina said:

She's got the trifecta - thin, big fake boobs, nice hair - the pretty face is a bonus but definitely not a requirement! 😂

 

10 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

You know, it's actually really true. It's society. I have friends who are gorgeous, and my husband and his friends think they are hideous because they are a little bigger. Men don't care about the "pretty face" thing, which is weird. That's all I notice on people. Who cares what they weigh. I am drawn to expressive eyes and a happy laugh. 

You are both absolutely right. So many men say they don't like thin women, but what they mean is they don't like emaciated. They tell on themselves by the women they drool over. Thin women are generally deemed more attractive regardless of their face, and thin with big boobs and blonde hair is automatically considered smoking hot  even if the face is average. A woman who has a stunning face but not the youngest or thinnest is probably more likely to be admired by other women. I guess women tend to appreciate true beauty more, and with men, it's more of a sex appeal thing. I know I get more attention from men if I wear things that show my shape more, and I get more compliments from women when I actually feel good about myself. 

I do think Dorit is a truly pretty woman even if she didn't have the Barbie proportions or nice head of hair.

5 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I think a lot of black men appreciate curvier women. I took an acting class. Gerry was very cute/pretty, but had a few extra pounds on her. Only black men attracted her. White guys repulsed her. My friend Marcella’s theory was that Gerry only pursued black men, because they were more likely to appreciate her curves. 
 

Dorit presents herself well. But she does jabber. And takes twice as long as anyone else to make her point.

Her implants are much too big now.

Yeah, black men appreciated curves other than breasts before butts became trendy, and they love truly curvier and meatier women, not just size 0s with breasts. I don't blame Gerry. We all have to go where the love is. 

I think Dorit's implants might look bigger because she is even smaller now. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

Sorry to go off-topic:

Please tell me how you watch Bravo, and how much it costs per month. I used to have cable. I now only want to watch basic cable with an antenna (!!!) and Bravo. I am trying to find the cheapest way to watch these ridiculous shows. Thank you!!!

[chessiegal]

5 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Sorry to go off-topic:

Please tell me how you watch Bravo, and how much it costs per month. I used to have cable. I now only want to watch basic cable with an antenna (!!!) and Bravo. I am trying to find the cheapest way to watch these ridiculous shows. Thank you!!!

You can watch Bravo on Peacock, along with a lot of other shows. I don't know if it's the cheapest. 

[Keywestclubkid]

5 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Sorry to go off-topic:

Please tell me how you watch Bravo, and how much it costs per month. I used to have cable. I now only want to watch basic cable with an antenna (!!!) and Bravo. I am trying to find the cheapest way to watch these ridiculous shows. Thank you!!!

they play past seasons for free on pluto but if you want the newer seasons you would have to have cable or peacock its 8 bucks a month for the cheapest plain

[bravofan27]

Back when I was in college and before streaming was a thing, I would watch my shows at the gym-- lots of TVs and they all had cable. 

[ZettaK]

On 3/17/2025 at 12:35 AM, Rahul said:

Ozempic or whatever GLP-1 drug she's on does not mix well with alcohol and imbibing while on her weight management meds resulted in extreme nausea and sickness. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it!

I mentioned this recently about Kyle, as well. She also probably saw it as a chance to eliminate alcohol in order to have a healthier lifestyle.

[hoodooznoodooz]

Also, Morgan doesn’t drink alcohol, correct? Kyle loves to copy women she admires.

[Miss Bones]

On 3/12/2025 at 6:02 PM, hoodooznoodooz said:

Do Ramona Singer/RHoNY and Dorit both have proptosis?

 

 

Thank you! When Dorit does her look of shock, all I can see is Debbie Salt's crazy eyes.

[Surrealist]

On 3/17/2025 at 7:49 AM, Keywestclubkid said:

from what we have seen to me personally Boz house feels so cluttered ... i would get claustrophobic ... its not like Horder bad but its just to much stuff everywhere 

Yeah. Boz is definitely a maximalist.

Jennifer's not nearly as bad, although she has a lot of stuff too.

[hoodooznoodooz]

Poorit: I just want some clarity, that’s all.

PJ: I’m trying. I’m trying to answer you.

[princelina]

3 hours ago, Surrealist said:

Yeah. Boz is definitely a maximalist.

Jennifer's not nearly as bad, although she has a lot of stuff too.

When you buy an extra house to hold your stuff - that's bad! 😂