S5.E17: Reunion, Part 1

[ZettaK]

Judging from the previews:

There is going to be a lot of screaming.

There is going to be a lot of backstabbing of supposedly good friends.

There are going to be some interesting revelations.

So, a typical HW reunion.

There are two "safe" words: opa, and besos!

First aired on 1/22/2025.

Edited 15 hours ago by ZettaK

[Straycat80]

A lot of spray tan on that stage too! 

[rlc]

Hey Bronwyn- if this was such a secret and personal matter, why did you choose to discuss it on a tv show in the first place?

[Marley]

Lisa is just a bitch. Her crying is so fake.

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, rlc said:

Hey Bronwyn- if this was such a secret and personal matter, why did you choose to discuss it on a tv show in the first place?

I wondered about that, too, and maybe Bronwyn decided to get in front of it herself before it became a headline for the gossip sites and bloggers. 

Not sure, but didn't Bronwyn know before filming that Lisa knew Gwen's father's family?  Maybe Bronwyn felt that she couldn't trust Lisa to keep quiet about it, so decided to put it out there herself, so she could kind of get her own spin on it.

But, I agree - that is really not something that should have been discussed anywhere in front of a camera.

[njbchlover]

34 minutes ago, Marley said:

Lisa is just a bitch. Her crying is so fake.

I don't think Lisa looks that good lately - I don't know whether it's her lips or something, but she isn't as attractive as she was before.  She always seems to have a sour look on her face, like her Diet Coke went bad or she ate a bad meal from Taco Bell.

And, yes, she is a bitch, and one that can't, for one second, keep her mouth shut and let someone else speak.  She talked over everyone - including Andy Cohen.  Even with closed captioning on, it was hard to decipher what was being said.

And, Lisa thinks she's fooling everyone with that fake crying bullshit.  That tissue that she kept folding and dabbing her eyes with did not have one little smudge of any makeup - no face makeup, no mascara, no eye shadow, no concealer - nothing.  If there had been any tears at all, she would have at least had some makeup residue even if she used a makeup setting spray, especially since it looks like she wears very heavy makeup. 

Edited 13 hours ago by njbchlover

[ZettaK]

Todd is still angry (on tonight's Watch What Happens Live) at Lisa because she mentioned on the Bravo aftershow that Bronwyn told Gwen's grandparents, her father (and others) she had a miscarriage. 

Whitney said the Alibaba stock photo of (her) jewelry was replaced immediately. But why was the photo which showed the actual jewelry posted in the first place? It was because it was the same jewelry. Not a great explanation by Whitney who avoided answering. 

Bronwyn repeated a rumor (that Angie then perpetuated) about Lisa's G Wagon being repossessed in association with claiming she has a boyfriend. Was it alluded that the boyfriend bought the car for her, or that she couldn't afford it?

So, Bronwyn didn't buy the $4 million necklace, or anything else from that jeweler because she ordered a more wearable one, but after what was said at the reunion (which filmed a little more than a month ago) she decided not to buy anything from them. But the scene about trying and wearing the necklace was earlier in the season which filmed from February to May. It doesn't take that long to custom create a piece of jewelry, does it?

Lisa's commercial about Kerastase hair products aired during the reunion. 

Heavy makeup on some of the women, especially the blush (eg. Bronwyn). 

Edited 8 hours ago by ZettaK

[princelina]

Heather's face? 😳. Yikes!

I was checking to see if Bronwyn had the rabbit teeth fixed - didn't seem so at the reunion, but definitely on WWHL!

From far shots Mary looks like she's wearing a bathrobe; closeups make her look like a Disney villain; specifically some kind of troll because of that collar. If you want to wear something like that you have to sit up straight!

I get a kick out of the beta males lined up behind their wives, trying to act like alphas 😂

[dancingdreamer]

Lisa is either yelling or fake crying. Something  is going on with her. I said that in the regular  season,  but I just can't  pinpoint it.

Is Bronwyn  coming  back next season,  I hope so. I think  she'll  fit in better, plus I don't  think Heather  wants her back.

I didn't  get much out of this reunion, I thought  it was going to be more explosive. 

[swankie]

Why are Bronwyn and her douche husband saying Lisa said Bronwyn faked a miscarriage when it was Bronwyn's daughter's estranged grandparents who said they thought Bronwyn had a miscarriage?  I can't stand how people spin conversations on these shows to fit their own narrative.  I can't stand Bronwyn or her husband.  She's a lying liar who lies! 

[ZettaK]

6 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

Is Bronwyn  coming  back next season,  I hope so. I think  she'll  fit in better, plus I don't  think Heather  wants her back.

Andy Cohen invited Bronwyn to Watch What Happens Live three times (the last time was yesterday), so he wants her to return for a second season. She didn't go to the women's dinner after the reunion. And at the first part of the reunion she said that she would like to know Whitney who she ignored all season, and she forgave Angie because she obviously doesn't have any allies. 

Edited 3 hours ago by ZettaK

[Chatty Cake]

I didn’t like grandpa Todd’s nasty tone with Lisa at the end of part one. His wife opted to do the show and out her daughters deceased father and his parents as deadbeats.  

[bosawks]

The  try for juxtaposition of Whitney lying about her fake jewelry and Bronwyn lying about buying her real jewelry amused me.

You want to think you're different but you're just a variation on a theme.

Edited 4 hours ago by bosawks

[BloggerAloud]

It was truly wild watching both Andy and Meredith trying to get Lisa to do anything remotely resembling empathy.

I thought it was funny when Mary talked about Heather and her chance in confidence and how she used to be ridiculed, as if she wasn't one of those people who did lol

[65mickey]

Right. Whitney's so called explanation as to why her jewelry, and it wasn't just one piece, looks exactly like jewelry sold on Alibaba made no sense. She is lying. Just like Bronwyn is lying about wearing borrowed jewelry. Brownyn also lied about buying the plane tickets for everyone for the couples trip. You can tell when she gets called out for lying her facial expression changes to one of confusion and concern. 

I cannot follow what happened with Lisa and the miscarriage story. Who told Gwen's father and grandparents that Bronwyn had a miscarriage? And when did the grandparents find out that they had a granddaughter? You would think that after losing their son they would have moved heaven and earth to have Gwen in their lives. There is something missing from this story. 

[JenE4]

3 minutes ago, BloggerAloud said:

It was truly wild watching both Andy and Meredith trying to get Lisa to do anything remotely resembling empathy.

It was wild that it went on for so long with everyone telling Lisa, she’s hurt, just apologize, and Lisa stayed on the attack. Any reasonable person the first time Bronwyn was visibly upset and said I don’t want any of this on camera, I never told ANYONE who Gwen’s father was, etc, would have immediately shut their damn mouth and said they’re sorry, offer some empathy, and let Andy move on to another subject. But Lisa just kept doubling down and adding MORE details about this family on camera! It was truly astounding that she could be that heartless and self-centered. Then finally her big “apology” was crying, I’m sorry that you hate me and I’m a terrible person! I find it hard to find any redeeming qualities in this person. Everyone else might have their moments of being in the wrong, but they also have moments where they show a lot of empathy and understanding toward each other. Lisa is like an apex predator—use that weakness to take them down, unless she has something to be gained personally, such as taking the hurt person’s side to attack someone else, but is never just there for the person. I assume there’s exceptions and I feel like she’s never been this bad before, but this season it was difficult to find much to like about Lisa.

[BloggerAloud]

I read the funniest thing about the Todd/John Barlow getting loud with each other at the end.

"I didn't know John Barlow could put the bass in his voice, but I know if I was Todd I wouldn't let someone who can't even parallel park talk to me crazy."

[ZettaK]

1 hour ago, 65mickey said:

I cannot follow what happened with Lisa and the miscarriage story. Who told Gwen's father and grandparents that Bronwyn had a miscarriage? And when did the grandparents find out that they had a granddaughter? You would think that after losing their son they would have moved heaven and earth to have Gwen in their lives. There is something missing from this story. 

According to what was said on the show, Gwen's grandparents found out about her when this season was filming, or about. I assume Bronwyn told them/her boyfriend she had a miscarriage in the past, very soon after she found she was pregnant. Her boyfriend passed away a few years after they broke up.

2 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

I didn’t like grandpa Todd’s nasty tone with Lisa at the end of part one. His wife opted to do the show and out her daughters deceased father and his parents as deadbeats.  

When we know now that the grandparents/boyfriend thought Bronwyn had a miscarriage.

Edited 3 hours ago by ZettaK

[65mickey]

 Bronwyn kept her daughter a secret all these years from her grandparents? Then she chooses to go on a reality TV show and think this won't come out? So who told them about Gwen or did they just happen to see Bronwyn on the show and put two and two together?  

[SweetieDarling]

1 hour ago, 65mickey said:

Right. Whitney's so called explanation as to why her jewelry, and it wasn't just one piece, looks exactly like jewelry sold on Alibaba made no sense. She is lying. Just like Bronwyn is lying about wearing borrowed jewelry. Brownyn also lied about buying the plane tickets for everyone for the couples trip. You can tell when she gets called out for lying her facial expression changes to one of confusion and concern. 

I cannot follow what happened with Lisa and the miscarriage story. Who told Gwen's father and grandparents that Bronwyn had a miscarriage? And when did the grandparents find out that they had a granddaughter? You would think that after losing their son they would have moved heaven and earth to have Gwen in their lives. There is something missing from this story. 

Why would she use an Alibaba photo as a placer unless the jewelry was Alibaba? Legally, I don't think you can use a brand's stock photo unless the item advertised is from that brand, and If you're going to use a random brand's photo, wouldn't Tiffany or even Zales have better impact?

 

I couldn't follow the miscarriage story either. It went from maybe they thought you had a miscarriage to accusations of lying about having had a miscarriage. Agreed there's a lot missing from this story

[Rlb8031]

35 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

According to what was said on the show, Gwen's grandparents found out about her when this season was filming, or about. I assume Bronwyn told them/her boyfriend she had a miscarriage in the past, very soon after she found she was pregnant. Her boyfriend passed away a few years after they broke up.

When we know now that they thought Bronwyn had a miscarriage.

Bronwyn says she didn't keep the pregnancy secret, that Gwen's dad's family knew all about it, and that her father reached out to the grandfather after Gwen was born to try to broker a discussion and the family never responded. 

The key part of the story, which came out almost in passing, was that Gwen's dad was married at the time of his death. Since he died before Gwen was born, he was either married at the time or married soon after he and Bronwyn slept together.

The miscarriage story appears to be an effort by the dad's family to do damage control as to why they didn't try to meet Gwen for the past 18 years.

[ZettaK]

21 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

 Bronwyn kept her daughter a secret all these years from her grandparents? Then she chooses to go on a reality TV show and think this won't come out? So who told them about Gwen or did they just happen to see Bronwyn on the show and put two and two together?  

Bronwyn told Gwen's grandparents about her. Lisa said Gwen looks like her late father. 

Edited 3 hours ago by ZettaK

[SweetieDarling]

9 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I don't think Lisa looks that good lately - I don't know whether it's her lips or something, but she isn't as attractive as she was before.  She always seems to have a sour look on her face, like her Diet Coke went bad or she ate a bad meal from Taco Bell.

Lisa's face and neck look rough. She (and Bronwyn for that matter) could use an appointment or 2 at Beauty Lab. I think her fast food diet may be catching up to her

[snarts]

3 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

Why would she use an Alibaba photo as a placer unless the jewelry was Alibaba? Legally, I don't think you can use a brand's stock photo unless the item advertised is from that brand, and If you're going to use a random brand's photo, wouldn't Tiffany or even Zales have better impact?

She used the supplier's stock photo. She, Alibaba & likely many jewelry companies source their products from the same supplier. They then brand/package it. Adding the word curated makes it sound fancy, when that simply means the pieces were individually chosen. 

Sourcing from the same product supplier happens everywhere, across all industries/products. Jewelry is just one that allows for huge variability in pricing versus something like cheese which is more of a commodity. Kraft may be $5 while the store brand is $4 for the exact same product whereas Alibaba may sell a gold plated ring for $10 but the Kendra Scott or David Yurman branded version sells for $100.

[SweetieDarling]

4 minutes ago, snarts said:

She used the supplier's stock photo. She, Alibaba & likely many jewelry companies source their products from the same supplier. They then brand/package it. Adding the word curated makes it sound fancy, when that simply means the pieces were individually chosen. 

Sourcing from the same product supplier happens everywhere, across all industries/products. Jewelry is just one that allows for huge variability in pricing versus something like cheese which is more of a commodity. Kraft may be $5 while the store brand is $4 for the exact same product whereas Alibaba may sell a gold plated ring for $10 but the Kendra Scott or David Yurman branded version sells for $100.

 I get that, I'm just saying you wouldn't use a stock photo of a pair of Sears Toughskins to sell Ralph Lauren jeans

[dmeets]

FFS Lisa, just admit that your loyalty is to the grandparents.

Also, Lisa should be thankful to Angie who, without the high body count hair drama, wouldn't have given Lisa the opportunity to plug Kerastase and score her an actual advertisement for them.

Edited 2 hours ago by dmeets

[bosawks]

9 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

 I get that, I'm just saying you wouldn't use a stock photo of a pair of Sears Toughskins to sell Ralph Lauren jeans

I'm not saying Whitney would but I'm not saying Whitney wouldn't.....

[rlc]

I hate that the show last night is making me sound like a Lisa apologist, but that was all kids of BS. Lisa does not need to apologize for something she discussed on the after show. Bronwyn chose to go on a reality tv show, and then chose to have this discussion (and show a photo) to Lisa while being FILMED FOR A REALITY TV SHOW. She does not then get to pick and choose which storylines are on or off limits. Who does she think she is, Kyle Richards? Lisa did not do anything malicious. She saw the photo, and realized she knew the previously unnamed father. She has a relationship with the family, and they either lied about knowing they had a grandchild, or did not know. Either way, that has nothing to do with Lisa. Regardless of what was said on the after show, it all would have come out when Bronwyn chose to make it a storyline that she had an 18-year-old daughter by a man she had previously been in a relationship with. 

[Pi237]

Lisa's a narcissist who seems incapable of true empathy.  Its always about how everything affects Her.  I doubt she has any friends who aren't sycophants or useful to her in some way, mainly financially.   However, Bronwyn didn't come across as totally honest to me. Both with the jewelry and the miscarriage accusation, she's not very adamant or clear on what Exactly went down. She keeps repeating what is said as a question, 'I didn't buy the necklace?' 'I told them I had a miscarriage?'.  It comes across like she's hiding or distorting some facts.  And there's a lot of reasons to be angry with Lisa, but Bronwyn opened the grandparents door. She learned a lesson about being on a reality show. You can't pick and choose only the truths that make you look sympathetic. Especially if your 'friend' is Lisa. 

[65mickey]

Didn't Bronwyn say on an earlier episode that Todd bought the 4 million necklace for an anniversary present? She didn't say they took it home on approval.  And  Pi237 is correct. Bronwyn did not respond about  the jeweler saying that she has bought nothing from them. She just acted all shocked and insulted  when called out on it. 

The story about her daughter, the father and the grandparents seems to keep evolving. It now sounds like Gwen's father was married when he and Bronwyn got together. There is a whole lot of back story to this. I doubt that she kept information from her daughter about her grandparents and her father to protect the child. She did it to protect herself. And the fact that she lied and told the father that she had a miscarriage is beyond the pale of decency. I mean if she didn't tell the father who did?  

[JenE4]

22 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

Didn't Bronwyn say on an earlier episode that Todd bought the 4 million necklace for an anniversary present? She didn't say they took it home on approval.  And  Pi237 is correct. Bronwyn did not respond about  the jeweler saying that she has bought nothing from them. She just acted all shocked and insulted  when called out on it. 

The story about her daughter, the father and the grandparents seems to keep evolving. It now sounds like Gwen's father was married when he and Bronwyn got together. There is a whole lot of back story to this. I doubt that she kept information from her daughter about her grandparents and her father to protect the child. She did it to protect herself. And the fact that she lied and told the father that she had a miscarriage is beyond the pale of decency. I mean if she didn't tell the father who did?  

I thought the story, as shared during the season, was that they were 19-year-old college students, and when Bronwyn got pregnant it brought so much shame to this other family that they wanted nothing to do with her or the baby, and I presumed they basically made their son break up with her and deny the existence of this child lest it bring shame to them within the Mormon church. I’m not sure that the father was married and died before the baby was born—just somewhere over the last 18 years was married and passed away? But maybe I missed something there. I also never got the impression she never told the father or the grandparents about the existence of Gwen. It seems to me they all knew Bronwyn was pregnant—yadda, yadda Mormon church, easier to put their head in the sand and pretend this baby never existed, so the miscarriage seems like an excuse by the grandparents than some scheme by teenaged Bronwyn. But I had a hard time following all of the screaming, so maybe Lisa was saying what Bronwyn portrayed on TV was a lie…at least according to the grandparents?

Edited 46 minutes ago by JenE4

[RealHousewife]

1 hour ago, rlc said:

I hate that the show last night is making me sound like a Lisa apologist, but that was all kids of BS. Lisa does not need to apologize for something she discussed on the after show. Bronwyn chose to go on a reality tv show, and then chose to have this discussion (and show a photo) to Lisa while being FILMED FOR A REALITY TV SHOW. She does not then get to pick and choose which storylines are on or off limits. Who does she think she is, Kyle Richards? Lisa did not do anything malicious. She saw the photo, and realized she knew the previously unnamed father. She has a relationship with the family, and they either lied about knowing they had a grandchild, or did not know. Either way, that has nothing to do with Lisa. Regardless of what was said on the after show, it all would have come out when Bronwyn chose to make it a storyline that she had an 18-year-old daughter by a man she had previously been in a relationship with. 

I agree that it makes it tricky for the cast when you make something a storyline, but you expect your castmates to be very careful with what they say, whether that's what Bronwyn went through with this family or someone like Kyle making Morgan and her marital problems her storylines. 

I do see a lack of compassion for Bronwyn and Gwen from Lisa. She seems to really feel for the grandparents, but only the grandparents. 

1 hour ago, Pi237 said:

Lisa's a narcissist who seems incapable of true empathy.  Its always about how everything affects Her.  I doubt she has any friends who aren't sycophants or useful to her in some way, mainly financially.   However, Bronwyn didn't come across as totally honest to me. Both with the jewelry and the miscarriage accusation, she's not very adamant or clear on what Exactly went down. She keeps repeating what is said as a question, 'I didn't buy the necklace?' 'I told them I had a miscarriage?'.  It comes across like she's hiding or distorting some facts.  And there's a lot of reasons to be angry with Lisa, but Bronwyn opened the grandparents door. She learned a lesson about being on a reality show. You can't pick and choose only the truths that make you look sympathetic. Especially if your 'friend' is Lisa. 

Bingo. I also believe Lisa about the jewelry, but again, it felt very mean and unprofessional of that jeweler. Who would want to do business there?

3 hours ago, BloggerAloud said:

I read the funniest thing about the Todd/John Barlow getting loud with each other at the end.

"I didn't know John Barlow could put the bass in his voice, but I know if I was Todd I wouldn't let someone who can't even parallel park talk to me crazy."

That's hilarious! I admit I have no room to make fun though. I try to avoid parallel parking at all costs.