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S18.E13: The Truth Always Comes Out

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Racj82

Racj82

18 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Five couples and no match!  I think we need new match makers for the next season!

Then again...judging from the last few seasons maybe they don't have much to work with.

Into about the second week we had an idea at why they are in their thirties and still single!

Sigh....

Tom and Camille.  Did I really just listen to the most intimate details of their love making!

Is that the new norm?

I'm from an older generation and that was never discussed!

Check maybe that's one of the reasons for the staggering divorce rates.  Nothing is kept private anymore.  🤔

You said five couples and no match but then talked about the one match they do have.

Thomas and Camille are fine.

Also, this is a tv show. We are taking a look into the lives of a couple. That also includes their sex life. Nothing about this is normal.

Also, obviously people are more comfortable sharing their lives in general anyway. Their talk didn't even make me blink.

I get more annoyed with couples on here being so secretive and coy on the show. Ultimate privacy and having your life documented for a tv show do not mix.

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Mr. Miner

Mr. Miner

10 hours ago, Madding crowd said:

I’m sure David could live without sex, but Michelle made it clear from the wedding night on that she didn’t like him and had no intention in trying to make it work. She hasn’t shown the slightest interest in being his wife so the marriage is in name only. I don’t think it’s cool for him to lie but I understand it.

The guy was dropping F-bombs, said that he smoked and lives in his parents basement five minutes after the ceremony.

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JenE4

JenE4

1 hour ago, Mr. Miner said:

The guy was dropping F-bombs, said that he smoked and lives in his parents basement five minutes after the ceremony.

Lol. It’s all or nothing with David. He was too honest  by listing out all of negative qualities the second he got married. Now he swung in the opposite direction lying about everything when he knows he was caught. Find a happy medium, my man!

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kristen111

kristen111

16 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

Five couples and no match!  I think we need new match makers for the next season!

Then again...judging from the last few seasons maybe they don't have much to work with.

Into about the second week we had an idea at why they are in their thirties and still single!

Sigh....

Tom and Camille.  Did I really just listen to the most intimate details of their love making!

Is that the new norm?

I'm from an older generation and that was never discussed!

Check maybe that's one of the reasons for the staggering divorce rates.  Nothing is kept private anymore.  🤔

Yes and yes.  An the silly exercises they make them do with the ropes tying each other up, etc.  I’m of the older generation where we had sex because we loved each other and having sex was meaningful.  We didn’t need ropes and gadgets.But, things were way different then.

13 minutes ago, starlightlost said:

Breaking news in MAFS world - the show is moving to Peacock after this current season.

Oh brother.  Another bill as we don’t have enough crap to pay for.

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Jeanne222

Jeanne222

On 1/30/2025 at 10:38 PM, Racj82 said:

You said five couples and no match but then talked about the one match they do have.

Thomas and Camille are fine.

Also, this is a tv show. We are taking a look into the lives of a couple. That also includes their sex life. Nothing about this is normal.

Also, obviously people are more comfortable sharing their lives in general anyway. Their talk didn't even make me blink.

I get more annoyed with couples on here being so secretive and coy on the show. Ultimate privacy and having your life documented for a tv show do not mix.

Thomas and Camille will say goodbye before the reunion show!  

A tv show is no place to discuss sex acts.  Next week she will tell us his size.  Wait for it!

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Retired at last

Retired at last

In addition to the move to Peacock, which I don't think will help them, it has been renewed for 3 more seasons! I don't know if Peacock will allow even more salacious discussions than Lifetime, but I already think there is TMI on these shows. So, along with many of you, I choose a Divorce on D Day.

And, I agree with @Jeanne222 that Camille and Tom will be done by the reunion. She will grow tired of her "project" to make Tom into something he is not and he will finally realize that she is way too much for him to handle. I think she is trying to make him into something that she herself is not, which is amusing, but sad. She is NOT cool, swag, or trendy, and if she likes rough sex, whatever. I just don't want to hear about it.

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kristen111

kristen111

FYI .. If anyone is interested, there is a show on Netflix that is called “Love is Blind”.  It’s about couples talk to each other sight unseen until they get engaged.  Then they live and sleep together until they decide to get married or not.  All the couples go on vacation together and get to know each other.  I watched all weekend, lol.

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kristen111

kristen111

6 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

What a gross group of people. 
Camille is awful. Shes mean but fakes like she is nice. Letting him do all the work in the sack and she can’t even give him a blowjob. Did we need to know that? Hell no, but since she’s been complaining about him let’s start on her. She looks like a middle aged frump with a perm, kind of fat and ugly ass clothes. She is disgusting.

Karla, Juan and the old lady in a nighty was gross. Juan should have manned up and said hell no! Get your tantric weird ass out of my apartment. And slammed the damn door on the old horny weirdo.

 Oh Madison, you are not that beautiful. Some people think you are trans. I don’t . I just think she’s on the manly side and needs fake eyelashes and fake hair to compensate. Allen is like a cuckold. He should have told her weeks ago that they are a newly married couple and if she wants to go to a club and be a drunkard then get the hell out of his apartment.

David also needs to put his foot down with mean ass Michelle. Yes, I was texting other women. You’ve been nothing but mean and have no interest in me. He should have told her that he chose such a pathetic lie because he actually thought she was dumb enough to believe it and for that he could apologize but honestly he doesn’t need to.

Emem is a foolish fool for going on a date with that walking turd. How stupid she must be and how little she must value herself. 

Love, love your post.  Everything you said is spot on.  I can’t imagine who the hell wrote this script.  It’s horrible and a waste of time.  👍

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Hip-to-be-Square

Hip-to-be-Square

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55 minutes ago, princelina said:

Yes this is way better than the show! 😂. Especially helpful these last 2 weeks since I FF through Letters To My Past Self and TMI Sexy Times!  I can get the scoop without watching it 😃

Primetimer comments are the best 😄🙌. I wish that I had the sense to fast forward through the Letters to My Past Self! 😅 The MAFS cast members go on and on with their letters. 

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Lindz

Lindz

Stupid assumptions of Allen...cuz of her ho dancing??? She could just like dancing like a ho & that's all. That didn't need to be thought or said... She's upset cuz her stranger husband thought that about her? Eh. Can you really be upset about first impressions? His "dream" was bizarre. Came out of nowhere. Distracting much??? 😕 She's too sensitive? Ya. No. More foot in mouth action. It's not her fault he didn't say he didn't like something she said or did. So of course it seems everything's fine. It's not an expectation, it's a precedent HE SET!!! That whole situation was stupid. He shouldn't have said it. All she had to say was she was hurt he thought that, she'd hoped her husband wouldn't have thought of her the same way everyone does. All he had to do was apologize & say he'd think before speaking going forward. Eh. Made a long, "interesting," segment. NOT.

Lindz

Lindz

THEY WON'T EVEN LOOK AT EACH OTHER!!!! ISSA WRAP!!!! Didn't Em say she wasn't calling him her husband anymore??? Guess she forgot when she didn't see his ring. I don't believe him. He gives convenient excuses. She doesn't feel peace in the apartment... ALONE??? 😕 Ya. Ok. Sure. Girl, BYE!!! I guess her saying he wouldn't get a 2nd date gets back to him so he brings divorce papers. Then again, I doubt anyone talks to him. Maybe his Houston trip inspires the papers. Ah well. GOOD RIDDANCE!!!

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Lindz

Lindz

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The truth came out alright. The truth we already knew!!! David's looking worse & worse the more he lies! DESPICABLE!!! & They had both Madison & David on the after show & they don't have couples on so they can't be the swap. They did cut Michelle saying she suspected Madison in the preview. David had so much to say, but nothing but lies on the show. Of course he wasn't questioned properly. Is he cheating??? According to what definition?!! I mean, why bother asking him anything since all he did was lie about that text? He's lying because she doesn't deserve to know??? So he makes himself look stupid?!!! What sense does that make?!! She couldn't care less who it is? THEN WHY NOT SAY THAT AT THAT TIME?!!! Sounds like he's making stuff up, otherwise he should've said it back then. All he had to do was tell the truth. All he had to do was end it like Chris did when Alyssa acted a fool. 

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kristen111

kristen111

I can see why they are not married.  Thin skin.  Everything has to go their way.  Marriage isn’t for the faint of heart.  They have to take the good and the bad to make it work.  Plus, SEX talk should be private.  Those dumb exercises mean diddly squat.  Plus, the girls expect too much.  Men are not mind readers.  They try their best.  Go sit in a bar then and find a Man.

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ytown

ytown

Dr Pia can a new couple find there way with intimacy on there own time without your  pushy suggestions.

Experts your historical selections have been horrendous.  I know it's your job to help them navigate their relationship but can you just state the obvious as many of us see and let them move on with their lives.  Example Ikechi & emem.

Michelle you never liked David from day one and now that he's being a player it gives you a justification to play the victim card and you're playing it up.  This phony act has given you an opportunity that exempts you from being the mean person that you have been during the whole relationship.  You wanted out from day one and have been cold and nasty towards David.  I don't blame David at all for pursuing another women and only wished he had the honest courage to tell you to your face what a bitch you have been.

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Chatty Cake

Chatty Cake

3 hours ago, kristen111 said:

Dr. Pia cracks me up.  What makes her think Men would like her ridiculous exercises.  Some men are shy when it comes to sex and that’s ok.  Camille is nuts.  He looked totally uncomfortable.  Poor guy.  Btw, she should change her wardrobe.  Her clothes are two sizes too tight.

For someone who went on and on about Thomas’s lack of swag, you’d think she would dress better herself and get her hair done. 
I liked her at first but now I think she’s another one who thinks she’s too good for her husband like Madison and Michelle. 

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Chatty Cake

Chatty Cake

14 hours ago, ytown said:

Dr Pia can a new couple find there way with intimacy on there own time without your  pushy suggestions.

Experts your historical selections have been horrendous.  I know it's your job to help them navigate their relationship but can you just state the obvious as many of us see and let them move on with their lives.  Example Ikechi & emem.

Michelle you never liked David from day one and now that he's being a player it gives you a justification to play the victim card and you're playing it up.  This phony act has given you an opportunity that exempts you from being the mean person that you have been during the whole relationship.  You wanted out from day one and have been cold and nasty towards David.  I don't blame David at all for pursuing another women and only wished he had the honest courage to tell you to your face what a bitch you have been.

Amen! The intimacy suggestions are terrible. Camille doesn’t need to spank Thomas or put a gag on the poor man, she needs to give him a blow job! It’s something he admitted he wanted her to reciprocate.

I agree about Michelle playing the victim. I doubt they have spent any time together when the cameras weren’t rolling. She always looks like she smells something bad when she is around him. She couldn’t even try and have a good time with him. Instead she focused on all that is wrong with him in her eyes when she is not all that great herself. 

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I don't believe her for a minute, but Michelle did claim on Afterparty that after the cameras left, she and David went to a bar and had a very nice time. Not buying it. Any time David has spoken, he says how she doesn't speak to him at all, and while his "player" ways seem to have returned, I do believe he did give it a good try before she just rejected him once too often.

And for the show to try to make these people do those intimacy exercises is ridiculous. I am sure it is part of the playbook where we see the same things every year - on their anniversary, they get their vows and wedding albums, etc., followed shortly by a visit from the sex dr. Well, the majority of these couples don't even hold hands, much less anything else. Several haven't kissed since the wedding, so to ask them to become intimate is just plain stupid. And we know that "intimacy" is their code word for sex. Or, the ever popular, "vulnerable."

PLEASE let something interesting happen tonight, show gods!!!!!

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LuvMyShows

LuvMyShows

On 1/28/2025 at 9:34 PM, atomic said:

Oh please, Madison. Allen did not call you a hooker. Her sensitivity over feeling judged sure is rich after she judged Allen all season.

Bingo. She was not able to understand that he was trying to make a point about something larger that involved his feelings, because she just kept thinking he was trying to shift the blame to her. It was also very insensitive for her to say she was going to make a phone call, and then stay out until 2 or 3, with no further contact to Allen, and then to completely dismiss his even bringing it up. 

On 1/29/2025 at 7:16 AM, Empress1 said:

She looked and acted like she was trying to have a threesome with them, which was really weird.

Juan said on the Afterparty, that the woman was trying to have more happen, but since it's a TV show, they couldn't show it. I really do think she thought she was going to be involved in some sort of three-way activity. But her showing up in that lingerie, meaning she probably walked through the building in it at least, or maybe even walked to the building in it, was just astonishing.

On 1/29/2025 at 9:47 AM, seacliffsal said:

However, I think David's facade of nice guy slipped a bit-crossed arms and refusing to give reasons as to why he didn't want to call his cousin?  David, just so you know, nobody is buying it.

Oh David fell about a million levels with me, when he was completely defending his lying on the Afterparty.  Yes he apologized technically, but listening to what he said and the way he said it, really brought out what I think are his true colors. He tries to paint himself as this good, patient guy who's really trying, but the lengths he went to for the coverup, in terms of trying to enlist his cousin and lying through his teeth to Pastor Cal, were despicable, as was how he blamed MIchelle for his decision to not tell the truth.

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Hip-to-be-Square

Hip-to-be-Square

14 hours ago, princelina said:

I think they already are and have come to an "agreement"

 I wish that they could get an annulment since they have been platonic buddies the whole marriage.  I read somewhere that the cast members get $1500 for each episode- that's a nice amount of money, but I don't think that the final paycheck is worth all of the stress and disappointment of being on this show. 

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