Gramto6 January 23 Share January 23 Something Kody said in one of his talking heads really made me mad. I forgot about it until I rewatched. He said Janelle was out to $crew him as much as she could, rubbing his hands together like a villain, supposedly imitating her. Yeah, she sure did Kody, when she turned over her retirement monies and her inheritance to the family pot that you controlled. Really $crewed you then didn't she???? Jacka$$!! 6 1 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8561968
65mickey January 24 Share January 24 She screwed him so bad that he and Robyn had nothing left and were forced to move into a $1,000,000 home and then horrors they had to trade up to a $2,000,000 home. Yeah Janelle is the real evil one here. 4 1 2 10 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8562829
Jeanne222 January 24 Share January 24 Did Janelle say she had some kind of business she kept separate from the family? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8562889
ginger90 January 24 Share January 24 2 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said: Did Janelle say she had some kind of business she kept separate from the family? It could be her Strive with Janelle, or more recently Plexus. Not a clue if there’s something else. Whenever she said she was working it involved a laptop. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8562891
islandgal140 January 24 Share January 24 On 1/22/2025 at 11:19 PM, Gramto6 said: Something Kody said in one of his talking heads really made me mad. I forgot about it until I rewatched. He said Janelle was out to $crew him as much as she could, rubbing his hands together like a villain, supposedly imitating her. Yeah, she sure did Kody, when she turned over her retirement monies and her inheritance to the family pot that you controlled. Really $crewed you then didn't she???? Jacka$$!! Kody operates on the mantra of 'yeah, but what have you done for me lately?' Or better yet, 'what have I been able to grift off you lately?' All this property stuff is a bit of a nothing burger to me. By law, according to the statute of frauds, anything involving the sale of real property must be in writing. So whatever share division is listed in the deed/sale documents are what they are entitled to. If Meri thought she should have gotten more than what she bargained, the time to bring that up was before signing on the dotted line. All this talk of deciding property division post sale, was always weird to me. 10 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8562901
ReclinerTurnip Friday at 02:50 PM Share Friday at 02:50 PM Maybe it is better in the long run for Meri to be seen as getting the short end of the stick with the land situation because it means that people will take pity and try and support her/buy more clothes?? I guess WorthyUp hasn't yielded too much in sympathy gains though. 2 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8562913
65mickey Friday at 11:49 PM Share Friday at 11:49 PM I think that Janelle pretty much said that legally the people listed on the deeds to the lots would be the only ones receiving the proceeds from the sale of said lots. But she said that they were now working on the distribution os assets. It's good that Meri and Janelle hired attorneys or Kody would have robbed them blind. 10 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8563328
Dibs Saturday at 12:31 AM Share Saturday at 12:31 AM (edited) Unpopular theory: the producers have hit upon a magic formula. Kody is evil, and all the ex-wives are goddess heroines. He's willing to take the bad edit for the sake of ratings and that sweet, sweet TLC money. They're all in on it and laughing all the way to the bank (especially Meri, who can't seem to stop laughing). Without this, the show would be cancelled; now it's more popular than ever. Bitter ex-wives out in viewing land just eat this up. You're all being punked, but hopefully having a good time in the process? Next: trouble in paradise for Kody and Robyn. The audience will just love that "karma." (It beats the "90 Day Fiancé" franchise.) Edited Saturday at 12:35 AM by Dibs 9 5 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8563359
BAForever Saturday at 01:14 PM Share Saturday at 01:14 PM 12 hours ago, Dibs said: Unpopular theory: the producers have hit upon a magic formula. Kody is evil, and all the ex-wives are goddess heroines. He's willing to take the bad edit for the sake of ratings and that sweet, sweet TLC money. I think a lot of us who have followed these bozos probably agree that theory is plausible @Dibs. No idea how any of it works, but I picture a group of "producers" with some alcohol sitting around and office with a huge whiteboard brainstorming story lines for upcoming season. No idea is too wacky. What else I see is the true total disdain the OG wives have for Kody and Robyn, and Kody's total denial of any responsibility in the disintegration of his fantasy family. 9 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8563826
65mickey Saturday at 03:42 PM Share Saturday at 03:42 PM And what we also see is the total distain that most of his non Robyn children have for him. This can't be faked. They may be all in on trying to keep the show going for the money but I don't believe for a minute that Kody and Robyn are anything other than horrible people who have cheated and abused the rest of the family to have what they want and the rest of the family be damned. Kody is not playing a part. He sees nothing wrong with how he treated the 3 wives who have left him and their children whom he has neglected. And I can never get over how he heaped love, attention and expensive Christmas presents on the Robyn children and neglected to even give Savannah a call on Christmas Day a few years ago. No one in their right mind would allow themselves to be portrayed in the manner that Kody has on the show just for money. He comes across at least to me that he believes he is the injured party. He is not acting a role. 7 1 11 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8563888
Cementhead Saturday at 04:29 PM Share Saturday at 04:29 PM 3 hours ago, BAForever said: think a lot of us who have followed these bozos probably agree that theory is plausible @Dibs. No idea how any of it works, but I picture a group of "producers" with some alcohol sitting around and office with a huge whiteboard brainstorming story lines for upcoming season. No idea is too wacky. I totally agree and I always picture something like this: 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8563898
65mickey Saturday at 04:30 PM Share Saturday at 04:30 PM 15 hours ago, Dibs said: Without this, the show would be cancelled; now it's more popular than ever. Bitter ex-wives out in viewing land just eat this up. You're all being punked Do you see Meri, Janelle and Christine as bitter ex-wives? I imagine that they are bitter about how Kody and Robyn cheated and took advantage of them. But I see them living their best lives now free of unhinged Kody and sour puss Robyn wallowing in a continuous state of angst. 16 4 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8563899
SemiCharmedLife Saturday at 08:14 PM Share Saturday at 08:14 PM 6 hours ago, BAForever said: What else I see is the true total disdain the OG wives have for Kody and Robyn, and Kody's total denial of any responsibility in the disintegration of his fantasy family. Not to mention Robyn-- when she did her talking head interview, she said that the family used to do things together and were united. Gee, I wonder when that was? Perhaps right before the pretty, shy wife entered the picture and began her machinations. Is she really that delusional??? 8 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8563981
precious pupp Saturday at 09:47 PM Share Saturday at 09:47 PM 1 hour ago, SemiCharmedLife said: Not to mention Robyn-- when she did her talking head interview, she said that the family used to do things together and were united. Gee, I wonder when that was? Perhaps right before the pretty, shy wife entered the picture and began her machinations. Is she really that delusional??? Yes, she is. She's still acting like she's been there "from Day One." 🙄 2 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8564027
Denize Saturday at 10:11 PM Share Saturday at 10:11 PM Robyn seems to be the most bitter of the wives, yet she ended up with the "prize" 4 7 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8564038
Absolom Sunday at 12:44 AM Share Sunday at 12:44 AM Being stuck with Kody 24/7 is enough to make almost anyone bitter. Plus the other wives took their earnings with them. Robyn and Kody can only access what they actually earn or grift now. 6 3 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8564132
Dibs Sunday at 01:20 AM Share Sunday at 01:20 AM (edited) 9 hours ago, 65mickey said: Do you see Meri, Janelle and Christine as bitter ex-wives? I see them living their best lives... I see a bunch of acting. They're all laying it on too thick with this "living their best lives" thing. And the mob mentality vitriol directed at Kody (who, admittedly, has his faults) on this site and Reddit is downright disturbing. Guess people love to have someone to hate! As for his children, that's called "alienation of affection," and it's not uncommon in divorce. If you don't believe Christine, at least, has bad-mouthed and vilified him and Robyn to her and Janelle's kids from sun-up to sundown for years, I have a bridge to sell you. Heck, she can't stop doing it even now that she's supposedly happy with another man. Please. (Again, that's assuming it's real.) Edited Sunday at 01:44 AM by Dibs 2 4 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8564151
Soapy Goddess Sunday at 09:31 AM Share Sunday at 09:31 AM 8 hours ago, Dibs said: As for his children, that's called "alienation of affection," and it's not uncommon in divorce. If you don't believe Christine, at least, has bad-mouthed and vilified him and Robyn to her and Janelle's kids from sun-up to sundown for years, I have a bridge to sell you. Heck, she can't stop doing it even now that she's supposedly happy with another man. Please. Ok, then what's Kody's excuse for not accompanying (or at least visiting) his daughter who had major surgery to correct her scoliosis?!? 12 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8564271
Popular Post 65mickey Sunday at 01:47 PM Popular Post Share Sunday at 01:47 PM His excuse was that he couldn't be away from his tender aged children for more than 2 days according to the Book of Robyn. He even suggested at one point that maybe she could go alone. Like an unaccompanied minor could check herself into a hospital and have surgery. And he said this to her as she sat on that porch with tears streaming down her face. That was probably the single worst thing that this sorry excuse for a father did. He might as well have told her to her face that he didn't love her or care about her. Oh but somehow it is Christine's fault that the children are estranged from this man. That's really reaching. 18 3 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8564299
mythoughtis Sunday at 02:15 PM Share Sunday at 02:15 PM (edited) 12 hours ago, Dibs said: As for his children, that's called "alienation of affection," and it's not uncommon in divorce. If you don't believe Christine, at least, has bad-mouthed and vilified him and Robyn to her and Janelle's kids from sun-up to sundown for years, I have a bridge to sell you. Heck, she can't stop doing it even now that she's supposedly happy with another man. Please. Christine’s attitude toward Kody and Robyn is very similar to a lot of women deeply emotionally hurt in their marriage and now divorced. Many can’t move on even years later and refuse to have their ex-spouse at their children’s weddings or other events, to the point of refusing to come themselves. Christine isn’t doing that. As for the kids and alienation of affection… there’s 18 of them to begin with. All but 5 talk to each other and several have been adults for several years. Old enough to know the truth and definitely vocal enough to discuss it amongst themselves without parental control. On a group text about a Christmas gift exchange for example. Hunter, Garrison, Maddie are all Janelle’s kids rather than Christine and I think they know how they were raised and they’ve made their feelings about their dad well known. What they have said doesn’t only involve Christine - it concerns their own interactions ( or lack thereof) with Kody and Robyn. Once they all arrived in Vegas, they became friends with people who didn’t live like them, whose parents were either home at night or working. I’m sure all the kids compared that to their own lives. Edited Sunday at 02:18 PM by mythoughtis 11 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8564313
smarty Sunday at 02:48 PM Share Sunday at 02:48 PM 13 hours ago, Dibs said: I see a bunch of acting. They're all laying it on too thick with this "living their best lives" thing. And the mob mentality vitriol directed at Kody (who, admittedly, has his faults) on this site and Reddit is downright disturbing. Guess people love to have someone to hate! As for his children, that's called "alienation of affection," and it's not uncommon in divorce. If you don't believe Christine, at least, has bad-mouthed and vilified him and Robyn to her and Janelle's kids from sun-up to sundown for years, I have a bridge to sell you. Heck, she can't stop doing it even now that she's supposedly happy with another man. Please. (Again, that's assuming it's real.) How do you explain away the crap Kody says DIRECTLY TO THE CAMERA? His kids do not like him for a reason. If I watched a video of my Dad saying my Mom needs to "Ditch the Bitches" in reference to her best friend, I wouldn't need my Mom to alienate me from him. 12 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8564331
BAForever Sunday at 03:01 PM Share Sunday at 03:01 PM (edited) Most of the adult Brown kids seem to be smart, reasonable and loving. If Kody wanted a relationship with any/all of them, I think some might be receptive depending on how Kody handles it. He could start with emails, texts, birthday cards/wishes, small gifts for grandkids. He can do it without involving Robyn- but I bet he won't. Kody has this he-man, protector mentality, but real men don't abandon their kids. Edited Sunday at 04:24 PM by BAForever 10 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8564336
Quof Sunday at 03:09 PM Share Sunday at 03:09 PM 13 hours ago, Dibs said: As for his children, that's called "alienation of affection," and it's not uncommon in divorce Alienation of affection is a specific legal term, allowing you to sue the person who "stole" your spouse (usually directed toward the "other woman", rarely a man who had an affair with a married woman). It's been disallowed in most jurisdictions, with the recognition that (1) you don't own your spouse and (2) your spouse was the asshole who broke their marriage vows, regardless of whether some "whore" enticed him. You're thinking of parental alienation. 5 2 2 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8564339
Denize Sunday at 07:02 PM Share Sunday at 07:02 PM (edited) 9 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said: Ok, then what's Kody's excuse for not accompanying (or at least visiting) his daughter who had major surgery to correct her scoliosis?!? Even when they were back in Flagstaff, I don't recall Kody visiting Ysabel through a window or to drop off food or things his daughter wanted or needed, all possible within even his/Robyn's most stringent Covid rules. Edited Sunday at 07:12 PM by Denize 8 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8564469
Roslyn Sunday at 07:13 PM Share Sunday at 07:13 PM 9 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said: Ok, then what's Kody's excuse for not accompanying (or at least visiting) his daughter who had major surgery to correct her scoliosis?!? Kody lives a transactional life, even with his children. If a child gives him the adoration and behavior that he approves of that child receives his attention in a sea of other children also vying for his attention. Even if he does not approve of their behavior he still may give negative attention...but still giving them some kind of attention. Throw in his constantly changing opinion of the child's mother. If the mother is in good standing with Kody, her children will receive more positive attention. If the mother is not in good standing then the whole unit of mother/children suffers by being ignored while he showers others with overly positive attention. A camera moment that comes to mind is when Robyn and Kody were telling her children the "good news" that their bio dad had signed the papers giving Kody permission to adopt them. The three kids sat stunned and Aurora was smiling but also sobbing. Kody berated them all for not reacting with screams of joy. Then he says "Well at least Aurora is happy....SHE gets a HUG". Teaching the others with words and actions that his favor is only earned when they give the behavior/words that he is demanding. As for Ysabel and her surgery it comes down to his relationship with Christine. He has always seemed to have disdain for her children, even back to the beginning. Aspyn was the exception. After the move to Flagstaff and they were more and more separated he gravitated to less and less contact. Kody is pissed at Christine and so that trickles down to her children. Even something as big as Ysabel's surgery couldn't pull his head out of his ass. He was too busy being angry that Christine didn't force Ysabel to yield to his demands and suffer for another 6-12 months so that he could perform the "supportive father" role with cameras rolling. Kody's wants and needs will always come first, and probably second as well. 4 2 1 7 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8564475
Absolom Sunday at 08:16 PM Share Sunday at 08:16 PM We also can't forget Kody's attitude and breaking contact with Leon over their sexual orientation. 8 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8564512
Andyourlittledog2 Sunday at 10:33 PM Share Sunday at 10:33 PM 3 hours ago, Roslyn said: Throw in his constantly changing opinion of the child's mother. If the mother is in good standing with Kody, her children will receive more positive attention. If the mother is not in good standing then the whole unit of mother/children suffers by being ignored while he showers others with overly positive attention. I've read a lot of memoirs of polygamous women and children, watched documentaries about them, histories, and movies and tv shows concerning them (from around the world, not just Mormon polygamy) and this is pretty much a universal theme. Whichever wife has the most favor gets the most support, and that includes support and attention to their kids. The favored wife gets the goods and the other wives get much less and often nothing at all. Polygamy sucks for women and children everywhere in the world. Even this family, who they said themselves were trying to show the world that polygamy could be wonderful and a perfectly reasonable lifestyle for all involved has instead only shown how awful it really is and almost no one involved (Robyn being the exception by her own statement) believing it is desirable or workable. Kody has proven that love is divided and the scripture that a house divided against itself cannot stand. Truly. 5 3 1 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8564613
SemiCharmedLife Monday at 02:58 AM Share Monday at 02:58 AM On 1/25/2025 at 5:20 PM, Dibs said: I see a bunch of acting. They're all laying it on too thick with this "living their best lives" thing. And the mob mentality vitriol directed at Kody (who, admittedly, has his faults) on this site and Reddit is downright disturbing. Guess people love to have someone to hate! (Again, that's assuming it's real.) This group has been acting all along-- they've kept sweet while Kody lavishes all his time, attention and family money on his favorite wife. I see more reality sneaking in these past few seasons when the wives realized there was nothing to lose by admitting some truths. That's what is making the show interesting to me. We are finally getting a peek behind the curtain. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8564920
waterytart Monday at 03:01 AM Share Monday at 03:01 AM On 1/25/2025 at 8:20 PM, Dibs said: I see a bunch of acting. They're all laying it on too thick with this "living their best lives" thing. And the mob mentality vitriol directed at Kody (who, admittedly, has his faults) on this site and Reddit is downright disturbing. Guess people love to have someone to hate! As for his children, that's called "alienation of affection," and it's not uncommon in divorce. If you don't believe Christine, at least, has bad-mouthed and vilified him and Robyn to her and Janelle's kids from sun-up to sundown for years, I have a bridge to sell you. Heck, she can't stop doing it even now that she's supposedly happy with another man. Please. (Again, that's assuming it's real.) Kody? 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8564924
General Days Monday at 03:35 AM Share Monday at 03:35 AM 7 hours ago, Absolom said: We also can't forget Kody's attitude and breaking contact with Leon over their sexual orientation. Kody didn't break contact with Leon over their sexual orientation. He was stoked for Leon and Audrey to marry. Later, there was a (shoddy) tabloid article claiming that Kody did not accept Leon's gender identity. Maybe that's what you're thinking of? I have no idea whether that is true, but the article was not well reported, and if it's the one I'm thinking of, it contained false claims about other aspects of the Browns' lives. The one I'm thinking of is from The Sun. And a bunch of other tabloids and YouTubers and TikTok videos regurgitated The Sun's reporting, but did none of their own. The reason I say it's trash, is that in the same article, The Sun claimed Robyn and Kody were only at Gwendlyn's wedding reception, because they're contractually obligated to make certain appearances for the show. Now while they would be obligated to appear at certain events for the show, Gwendlyn's wedding would not have been one of them, because Gwendlyn didn't let the show film her wedding. So, Kody may well have rejected Leon once they game out about their transition, but I don't think there has been any actual reporting on it. 1 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8564955
LilyD Monday at 12:35 PM Share Monday at 12:35 PM On 1/25/2025 at 1:31 AM, Dibs said: Unpopular theory: the producers have hit upon a magic formula. Kody is evil, and all the ex-wives are goddess heroines. He's willing to take the bad edit for the sake of ratings and that sweet, sweet TLC money. Whilst the show itself seems heavily edited, I don't think there's anything like bad editing when it comes to Kody. This is simply who he is. There's a reason why most of his kids want little or no contact with him.... 7 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8565053
Absolom Monday at 05:34 PM Share Monday at 05:34 PM 13 hours ago, General Days said: Kody didn't break contact with Leon over their sexual orientation. He was stoked for Leon and Audrey to marry. Later, there was a (shoddy) tabloid article claiming that Kody did not accept Leon's gender identity. Maybe that's what you're thinking of? The other adult children have reported that Kody was opposed to Leon's orientation and marriage. They have said that he does not accept Leon. I believe Leon's siblings in this one. Kody may have done some posturing for the show and been given a good edit by the prior producer. 9 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8565215
ginger90 Monday at 05:43 PM Share Monday at 05:43 PM 14 hours ago, General Days said: Kody didn't break contact with Leon I believe this is the case. I believe Leon broke off any contact with Kody. 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8565221
Natalie68 Monday at 07:48 PM Share Monday at 07:48 PM On 1/25/2025 at 5:20 PM, Dibs said: I see a bunch of acting. They're all laying it on too thick with this "living their best lives" thing. And the mob mentality vitriol directed at Kody (who, admittedly, has his faults) on this site and Reddit is downright disturbing. Guess people love to have someone to hate! As for his children, that's called "alienation of affection," and it's not uncommon in divorce. If you don't believe Christine, at least, has bad-mouthed and vilified him and Robyn to her and Janelle's kids from sun-up to sundown for years, I have a bridge to sell you. Heck, she can't stop doing it even now that she's supposedly happy with another man. Please. (Again, that's assuming it's real.) There is no way in this world that I can ever give Kody or Robyn props for how they have acted or cut them slack. They deserve every bit of vitriol heaped upon them just based on what we have seen. Different strokes and all. Kody has been ignoring his original kids since Robyn's kids came into the pic. Otherwise his original kids would have SOME sort of relationship with him. 11 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8565312
General Days Monday at 11:35 PM Share Monday at 11:35 PM (edited) 6 hours ago, Absolom said: The other adult children have reported that Kody was opposed to Leon's orientation and marriage. They have said that he does not accept Leon. I believe Leon's siblings in this one. Kody may have done some posturing for the show and been given a good edit by the prior producer. I haven't heard that. I heard Gwendlyn say that Leon pulled away from some family members because of their reaction, but I don't recall her naming Kody. Do you have a link to a video or an article? I might have missed it, but I also feel like sometimes, this fandom (not you, or anyone here) takes plausible speculation and starts spreading it as fact, and then the rest of us think the people talking about it like it was fact were sharing facts, when they weren't. EDITED TO ADD: Again, I wouldn't be shocked if Kody does have a problem, but I don't know of any of the kids being specific like that about him and Leon. Edited Monday at 11:41 PM by General Days 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8565445
Absolom Monday at 11:39 PM Share Monday at 11:39 PM It was Gwen IIRC. In one of her podcasts she went into it a tiny bit. Also one of the others like Maddie or Mykelti said something. I didn't make downloads. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8565447
General Days Monday at 11:39 PM Share Monday at 11:39 PM 5 hours ago, ginger90 said: I believe this is the case. I believe Leon broke off any contact with Kody. Do you have a link to something? I know everyone talks about it like it's true, but at one point, I subscribed to both Gwen and Mykelti's Patreons (I don't anymore) and they never said that. Gwen did say Leon pulled away from a lot of the family when they first came out, but I don't think she ever pointed the finger directly at Kody (or actually named any family member -- she was vague on purpose, if I recall directly). Just now, Absolom said: It was Gwen IIRC. In one of her podcasts she went into it a tiny bit. Also one of the others like Maddie or Mykelti said something. I didn't make downloads. I watched all Gwen's stuff. She never named Kody that I ever heard. People used one of her videos as its source for this. You'll notice it never quotes Gwen as saying Kody cut off Leon: https://people.com/tv/gwendlyn-brown-says-trans-sibling-leon-has-been-separating-from-sister-wives-family-to-feel-safer/ 2 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8565448
Absolom Tuesday at 12:08 AM Share Tuesday at 12:08 AM Again, I didn't keep where she said it. I heard her and I can't remember exactly where it was. I didn't subscribe to her Patreon so it was somewhere else. I don't think she used the word cut off, but more like Kody quit talking to Leon. Anyway, I heard it and I'm not justifying it any more than that. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8565468
Denize Tuesday at 01:30 AM Share Tuesday at 01:30 AM 12 hours ago, LilyD said: Whilst the show itself seems heavily edited, I don't think there's anything like bad editing when it comes to Kody. He says a lot of things when he probably didn't intend to because he loves to talk and thinks other dudes would be impressed that he had 4 wives and multiple businesses. He mentioned that to sell the land he'd have to move all the trailers full of the remnants of his many failed businesses. If TLC is short of content, let's have a tour of those to see how much money Kody has WAAAAASTED on the unsold merch and trailers to store everything in. Ari as tour guide might be good. She blurts out what she really thinks. 3 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8565558
mythoughtis Tuesday at 06:50 AM Share Tuesday at 06:50 AM (edited) 13 hours ago, ginger90 said: I believe this is the case. I believe Leon broke off any contact with Kody. I also think that it has more to do with Leon’s decision to be Leon rather than the sexual orientation or marriage. Kody was at Gwen’s marriage. I do not remember where I read this, but I read that Leon was distancing themself from some members of the family that had a problem accepting the transition. Leon has been at the recent weddings and also in photos with Meri and some siblings. We have not seen Leon in any photos with Kody - including at Logan or Gwen’s weddings. Edited Tuesday at 07:31 AM by mythoughtis Replaced the word change with transition 6 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8565734
ginger90 Tuesday at 12:15 PM Share Tuesday at 12:15 PM 5 hours ago, mythoughtis said: Leon has been at the recent weddings and also in photos with Meri and some siblings. We have not seen Leon in any photos with Kody - including at Logan or Gwen’s weddings. I don’t think we can go by what we don’t see on social media. As an example, many pictures were posted of Gwen’s wedding. Kody and Robyn weren’t in the first wave of pictures so online in articles etc, he didn’t attend. That was until Christine posted a picture and they were in the background. 3 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8565772
ginger90 Tuesday at 12:30 PM Share Tuesday at 12:30 PM 12 hours ago, General Days said: Again, I wouldn't be shocked if Kody does have a problem, but I don't know of any of the kids being specific like that about him and Leon. I have felt like this from the first mention of Kody and Leon’s “current” relationship. Mainly because we would have no way of knowing Kody’s thoughts on Leon because the topic hasn’t been on the show for Kody to say anything. So any posts like that would lead me to ask, where/when was this said every time with no answer provided. However, apparently Leon wrote about Kody’s reaction on their substack, I think that’s what it’s called. I don’t subscribe but this is what was said. One of the things Kody said to them was transgender people end up committing suicide (imagine?). That’s why I said I believe Leon cut Kody out. I have no reason to doubt what the person who read it said, as it’s a “real life” person that I know. 3 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8565778
Jeanne222 Tuesday at 02:54 PM Share Tuesday at 02:54 PM So if the show must go on...they need to find some more appealing cast members. David might be a nice guy but no personality. Robin's daughters seem to be sweet girls but they seem to hate the limelight and actually Kody too! The inter reaction between the girls and Kody is painful to watch. Not much from the littles either! An interesting spin might be if Robyn packed up her kiddos and joined another family! The life she so craves! Wouldn't Janelle be entitled to some back child support for her youngest? Once I read they were all lawyering up I thought goodbye Coyote Pass money. Attorneys aren't cheap and they will file and stall. Kody has to love this. Now he will hold onto that land and exhaust any chance of a big payoff to Janelle and Meri! The were damed if you do and damed if you dont! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8565851
Natalie68 Tuesday at 04:19 PM Share Tuesday at 04:19 PM 1 hour ago, Jeanne222 said: So if the show must go on...they need to find some more appealing cast members. David might be a nice guy but no personality. Robin's daughters seem to be sweet girls but they seem to hate the limelight and actually Kody too! The inter reaction between the girls and Kody is painful to watch. Not much from the littles either! An interesting spin might be if Robyn packed up her kiddos and joined another family! The life she so craves! Wouldn't Janelle be entitled to some back child support for her youngest? Once I read they were all lawyering up I thought goodbye Coyote Pass money. Attorneys aren't cheap and they will file and stall. Kody has to love this. Now he will hold onto that land and exhaust any chance of a big payoff to Janelle and Meri! The were damed if you do and damed if you dont! I think that he seems sweet and a bit shy. Maybe as time wears on it will come out more. I believe this is towards the start of him filming. I think the kids are very wary of him and his moods. I sensed the weenie roast was filled with tension. Ariella isn't going to want to do anything with her dad if he keeps admonishing her. Don't want paint to get all over her, teach her how or put her in clothes that won't matter. Also, don't have her shovel snow near your truck and then get mad when she hits it. She is a tender, remember? Once these kids can, they will beat it. One thing I noticed or had ping into my head, Robyn doesn't seem as into him as she used to be. She wants the lifestyle but not to be bothered by him. She is also a terrible liar. I want the ex's to bleed him dry. With 3 lawyers going at him, it is going to cost a pretty penny and I am here for it. I would give $20 to a GOFUNDME to pay for a forensic accountant for the ladies. And for my personal enjoyment. Honestly, Meri and Janelle has already lost what they are owed to CP, make him lose it all including his new house . I wonder if the women could just sell their shares of CP to anyone who will take it? That happened to my sister's husband. Three brothers owned a piece of land. One brother was a heroin addict and borrowed money against it and never paid it back so this person was going to be a 3rd owner. The other 2 brothers had to pay it back once they found out to keep it. Quit keeping sweet ladies. Finally figured out what I want Meri to do with her hair. Lay off the hairspray. Let it have body and movement. 3 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8565912
Denize Tuesday at 06:56 PM Share Tuesday at 06:56 PM 2 hours ago, Natalie68 said: Finally figured out what I want Meri to do with her hair. Lay off the hairspray. Let it have body and movement. It always looks like she blow-dries it to death/straw. I wonder what it would look like if she let it air dry. 3 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8566022
SemiCharmedLife 18 hours ago Share 18 hours ago On 1/28/2025 at 6:54 AM, Jeanne222 said: An interesting spin might be if Robyn packed up her kiddos and joined another family! The life she so craves! THIS is the only way I would believe that Robyn was being sincere about sitting in rocking chairs on the porch with her sister wives. She really tried to sell us this BS. SMH 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151478-s19e18-money-is-the-root-of-all-evil/page/2/#findComment-8566893
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