J80134 December 11 Share December 11 Suttons sorority sister pledge was an eye roller. As was having Dorito give the captain her number. You can't relive your teen years...even with all that botox and 80s thick black eyeliner. In the war of the kemsleys, Kyle has clearly aligned herself with PK. Dorito would get zero interaction if not for the show...and Kyle will do all she can to get her off it. Hey Camille! 5 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530050
Straycat80 December 11 Share December 11 Sutton was on WWHL, she said unfortunately Captain Theo had a girlfriend so there was no love connection. 3 5 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530053
Pi237 December 11 Share December 11 (edited) Don't get your face too close to that candle, Kathy. And yes, Dorit, you have been 'stretched too thin' stop while your face still looks pretty and normal without makeup. Kyle bringing out the scratchy voiced fake crying again. I honestly laugh every time she does that now cuz its so fake. And stop slipping into PKs DMs. Tacky. Ericka, Dont delete anything. Lol imagine having 'friends' like that, where you need to keep evidence. Ok enough Dorit vs Kyle, its stupid and neither one is making entertaining zingers against the other, so its Boring. Like watching my kids fight over the same toy over and over again. They're just not that interesting. Edited December 11 by Pi237 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530055
RealHousewife December 11 Share December 11 4 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said: How soon we all forgot that Dorit laughed at Garcelle's son being verbally attacked ON CAMERA by a house wife and told well its not my kid so its not a big deal in a talking head that took weeks to film after the incident and time to actually think about what happened ..... and then told Garcelle to her face its been a whole year since your under age kid was threatened with racist vile attacks and violent threats and to get over it .. acting like Garcelle is mean for no reason other then to be mean and has no reason to actually have a issue with this dolt of a woman i feel is disingenuous and no amount of Dortit or her i didn't mean it that way or NOW i'm sorry means anything because in that moment YES you did .. that is who you are you dont care about things unless they effect you and that is a asshole w NO NO ... im sorry Garcelle can come for Dorit all she wants she showed who she was in that moment Dorit can fuck all the way off when it comes to anything to do with Garcelle ... i will stand by this till the show no longer exists... Oh I’m with you there. I thought I was the only one at first. I think Dorit is a much nicer person than Kyle, but her history with Garcelle isn’t pretty. For me Garcelle is still the most decent and classy human being on the show. I don’t understand the posts calling her mean at all. I might wish she’d let Dorit just let Kyle have it, but she has every reason not to love Dorit. The show feels a lot less toxic with the new women compared to the seasons with Rinna, Teddi, and Diana, but that doesn’t erase the previous seasons. If I were Garcelle, I couldn’t just forget everything either, especially involving a child. 16 1 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530059
ZettaK December 11 Author Share December 11 (edited) 14 hours ago, JenE4 said: Why are these women surprised that Kyle ices people out and cuts them off when she’s upset with them? This is what she does to her own sisters! Have they not noticed she only speaks to one sister at a time—if that? Now that they’re all sisters via a literal and figurative ribbon binding agreement, expect half of you to get the silent treatment stat. The three sisters are alike. They all ice each other out constantly. Kathy iced Kyle out two or three times the last ten years, or so. I don't think Kyle dared to do it with her. But it seems that Kyle does it with others. Edited December 11 by ZettaK 12 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530131
amarante December 11 Share December 11 3 hours ago, dmeets said: ALL OF THIS! Plus the racial macro-aggressions like child bride comment about Crystal, which she was defiant about and shrugged when told about its racist implications. Garcelle was being extremely generous when she called her an unconscious Karen. And looks like next week she once again calls Camille the c-word, this time without being trashed as an excuse. Garcelle can hate Door-it all she wants, and I'll be right there along hating her as well. Kyle's act has gotten old, and sometimes the enemy of my enemy is my friend, but not in this case. Fuck DOORit. My immediate thought was was Dorit's casual racism - especially her defense that her children were exposed to POC because of the workers in their home - as if this wasn't completely tone deaf. I had absolutely no problem with Garcelle stating that Dorit never really apologizes because it was factual. I don't think she is giving Erika a "free ride" for treatment of her children. She just isn't going to bring it up when it isn't relevant. The nature of Dorit's apologies - or "non apologies" was exactly what was being discussed so no reason that she should weigh in with her personal experience. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530151
Cosmocrush December 11 Share December 11 17 hours ago, Straycat80 said: Poor Sutton trying to ribbon unite the ladies to be friends. Bless her little heart. And she kept on it the next day in the van home. These women are not sorority sisters and barely friends; seems like Sutton should know that by now. More like women who work together on a silly reality show. 9 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530218
ZettaK December 11 Author Share December 11 The first four episodes were about Dorit and Kyle's fight. Enough. It's boring by now. 9 5 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530300
dogy35 December 11 Share December 11 Have detested Dorit most of her time on this show, but Garcelle was totally wrong (& shit-stirring, IMO) when she said Dorit had stated that she wasn't "friends" with Teddi. Dorit clearly had said previously, in perfect Housewifese, that "Her" & I 🙄 were not close friends. (One day, will they find Ho's with understanding of pronoun use??) How sad (& relatable) that middle-aged, very attractive, super-rich women like Sutton, Garcelle, & now, prob, Kyle, are unable to find suitable male companions. Although it's cringy to watch Sutton resorting to the elementary school tactic of getting your pal to tell the "boy" (ha!) that you "like" him! 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530313
Chatty Cake December 11 Share December 11 10 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said: i think it was the drunk aspect .. had Erika done that sober and clear headed like she did with Denise's daughters and calling them teenage sluts or tried to double down on it after the fact (she immediately apologized and saw it was wrong to do to her son) then YES i could see this point Dorit isnt the weaker one .. i dont get this shes weak she runs her mouth constantly Garcelle had and has every right to come for Dorit at any time she feels like it and to side eye the woman after all that .. in my opinion ... just my two cents I think it’s the they are scared of Erika aspect vs the drunk aspect. Erika raged at Garcelle before. I think in Palm Springs and Garcelle has certainly gone easy on her since. Dorit may not be weak but she certainly doesn’t scare the shit out of them the way Erika does. 7 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530346
lemoncake December 12 Share December 12 (edited) I'm over the Dorit/Kyle fight. They both are nitpicking each other. Just let it go. But they are both dumb as rocks, so the only thoughts they have are that thing the other said 3 years ago. That said, I figure Kyle is exaggerating PK texting her (probably looking for Mau) but she's putting that in her back pocket to use at the right time. When Sutton pulled out the ribbon and said the sister pledge,the only thing I could think of is she must have been in a college sorority. I see shades of Vanderpump in Erika. Stirring a little shit in private and the sit back and watch it blow up. I'm over crazy grandma Kathy's shtick. She looks like a bag lady with money. I cant tell if its an act or not. But she needs to lay off the plastic surgery. She almost looks Asian her eyes are pulled so tight. What is up with the casual pj look at dinner? Give me a sparkly Jennifer Tilly dress any day of the week. Looking forward to Camille calling Dorit a see you next Tues. Edited December 12 by lemoncake 4 7 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530481
bravofan27 December 12 Share December 12 There is no excuse for bullying someone-- we need to do better than excuse people for treating others badly because the other person "deserved it." https://neurolaunch.com/why-do-we-make-excuses-for-others-bad-behavior/ Garcelle is intentionally picking on Dorit, and it's not okay regardless. There is something called communication and it works really well. No reason for adult women who are so educated (apparently Garcelle is the most emotionally intelligent of the bunch! LOL) to resort to bullying to get their points across. I don't accept that bullying is acceptable behavior from ANYONE, let alone adult woman. Talk, communicate, go to therapy, something-- don't resort to name calling and bullying. It makes you look stupid. (Exactly why I think Garcelle is dim). 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530743
Cosmocrush December 12 Share December 12 2 hours ago, lemoncake said: I'm over crazy grandma Kathy's shtick. She looks like a bag lady with money. I cant tell if its an act or not. Same! Then I remember Kathy Hilton hasn't lived in the real world since she was 20 years old (and married Rick Hilton) and think it's probably real. Still, laying in bed telling Kyle to put makeup on her while staring into a mirror was a bit much. 6 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530759
njbchlover December 12 Share December 12 2 hours ago, lemoncake said: I see shades of Vanderpump in Erika. Stirring a little shit in private and the sit back and watch it blow up. Oh - so Erika has now become the "sniper from the side"?? 🤣 And, yes, I agree with you, but I think that Erika loves doing that - actually helps to keep her on the show. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530780
Shannah Banana December 12 Share December 12 21 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said: Still, laying in bed telling Kyle to put makeup on her while staring into a mirror was a bit much. What was even a bit much more, was having Jennifer use her hands to get the lobster meat out of the shell because she couldn't do it. Oh, come on. She had her own lobster fork (and for that matter, her own two hands) but she wanted someone to do it for her because she is entitled and lazy. Betcha if she was ever really hungry, she could have gotten that lobster out of the shell all by her lonesome. But this is the woman that used an eyeshadow brush on her teeth. 4 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530811
princelina December 12 Share December 12 1 hour ago, bravofan27 said: Garcelle is intentionally picking on Dorit, and it's not okay regardless. Right! In actual fact I don't like any of these women so it's easy enough for me to shift alliances based on how they are acting in the moment. And Garcelle has a calm, cheerful personae that allows her to be a bitch or shit stirrer without getting called out. Good for her as a HW I guess, but it doesn't make me like her any more. 3 minutes ago, Shannah Banana said: What was even a bit much more, was having Jennifer use her hands to get the lobster meat out of the shell because she couldn't do it. Oh, come on. She had her own lobster fork (and for that matter, her own two hands) but she wanted someone to do it for her because she is entitled and lazy. Betcha if she was ever really hungry, she could have gotten that lobster out of the shell all by her lonesome. But this is the woman that used an eyeshadow brush on her teeth. Oh she's a pig and a faker. Of course she didn't use an eye shadow brush on her teeth by mistake. Nor did Kyle believe she did and "make fun of her" for it. 2 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530814
Shannah Banana December 12 Share December 12 14 minutes ago, princelina said: Of course she didn't use an eye shadow brush on her teeth by mistake. Nor did Kyle believe she did and "make fun of her" for it. Interesting. I hadn't thought of Kathy faking the eyeshadow scene, but it's plausible. Why she would want to come across as a dimwit escapes me, but I remember back in the day, Paris came across as a dumb blond on purpose, so maybe Kathy thought it would look cute on her too, but it doesn't. What you can get away with when you're young, isn't the same as when you're older. Still, here I am talking about it, so maybe Kathy did get some attention she must desperately need. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530823
Keywestclubkid December 12 Share December 12 (edited) 8 hours ago, bravofan27 said: There is no excuse for bullying someone-- we need to do better than excuse people for treating others badly because the other person "deserved it." https://neurolaunch.com/why-do-we-make-excuses-for-others-bad-behavior/ Garcelle is intentionally picking on Dorit, and it's not okay regardless. There is something called communication and it works really well. No reason for adult women who are so educated (apparently Garcelle is the most emotionally intelligent of the bunch! LOL) to resort to bullying to get their points across. I don't accept that bullying is acceptable behavior from ANYONE, let alone adult woman. Talk, communicate, go to therapy, something-- don't resort to name calling and bullying. It makes you look stupid. (Exactly why I think Garcelle is dim). I don’t think it’s all about someone deserving something more the wronged party deserves to have the feelings they have after something like she did is done to them.. it’s basically telling that wronged party to suck it up and that’s fucked so the lady can have what I feel is a fake ass storyline to stay on the show Sorry she went after an underage child of a co star and said it’s not my child then told the mother of that child to get over it .. there is no excuse for that and having the mother of that child be ok and feel like she should brush her feeling to the side to make space and make the lady who wronged them feel ok asking for grace for a person who didn’t give it .after years of opportunity’s to actually make it right . no .. Circling back I don’t even feel this whole Dorit storyline is real .. it feels to conveniently convent suddenly happening.. and something is off with this .. NOTHING about this screams authentic and feels like a grab to stay on the show now the only one that could override this is Garcelle she and her son are the only two that could say you know what I see in her heart she didn’t mean it and they haven’t .. they know her better then we do I’m deferring this to them and it seems like to them she is a shit person in this regard And not to bring race into it but a lot of non white people (and just women in general) are told to prioritize the feelings of other people over theirs to basically be the bigger person when treated like shit so the other doesn’t feel “bad” as if their feelings don’t matter .. In this I feel Garcelle deserves her feelings just as much and should decide to treat Dorit any manner she chooses.. but yes sometimes bad things happen to people who did bad things and it feels like karma and that’s ok just my own personal opinion Edited December 12 by Keywestclubkid 3 5 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530881
Mr. Miner December 12 Share December 12 9 hours ago, bravofan27 said: Garcelle is intentionally picking on Dorit, and it's not okay regardless. I'm absolutely okay with it! 1 1 8 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530902
lemoncake December 12 Share December 12 (edited) I think they try to elevate the drama or in Kathy's case the stupid as a way to stay relevant on the show. The show has been around long enough so the cast knows once they become boring they are on their way out. Sometimes the controversy is genuine, like Erika and Tom's divorce. Thats when the HW shows are the best. Who can forget Camille getting dumped by Kelsey on the show? Its gold. But this BS bickering over one person saying a bad thing about another or having the audacity to read a text that was sent to them or repeat something that was said in a public forum causes pearl clutching? Get over it and stop over reacting. Edited December 12 by lemoncake 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530915
Keywestclubkid December 12 Share December 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr. Miner said: I'm absolutely okay with it! she went after someones underage child and co signed them being treated like shit ... no parent and i mean NO parent would ever be ok with someone who did that totally... the fact they work together and people are mad about this is strange to me .. like if this happened to their child would they be saying the same thing? Im with you .. she did a shit thing and im ok with the consequences of that action playin out Edited December 12 by Keywestclubkid 5 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8530964
dmeets December 12 Share December 12 I wouldn’t even categorize Garcelle as “picking on” Doorit. All she did was matter of factly say no when Doorit said she always apologizes for and owns up to her bad behavior, and elaborated when Doorit asked her to. I would argue the evidence backs up Garcelle. She basically told Garcelle time was up to feel upset over what happened to Jax. On social media posts last year she doubled down on her use of the word “attack” even after learning that the word was triggering to Garcelle. And she wasn’t the slightest bit apologetic over “child bride.” I’m a little less convinced that the JohnMellancamp post was an example of hypocrisy but Garcelle wasn’t alone in thinking that, which I blame in part on Doorit being so long winded that people can’t remember exactly what she said about Teddit. Everything else Garcelle said was totally valid IMO. 7 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8531186
Cosmocrush December 12 Share December 12 3 hours ago, dmeets said: ’m a little less convinced that the JohnMellancamp post was an example of hypocrisy but Garcelle wasn’t alone in thinking that, which I blame in part on Doorit being so long winded that people can’t remember exactly what she said about Teddit. Everything else Garcelle said was totally valid IMO. Heh. So true. I don't have a problem with Garcelle addressing Dorit. But I do think the reposting had more to do with Dorit showing she was on stage being photographed with Mellencamp. 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8531318
RealHousewife December 12 Share December 12 8 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said: she went after someones underage child and co signed them being treated like shit ... no parent and i mean NO parent would ever be ok with someone who did that totally... the fact they work together and people are mad about this is strange to me .. like if this happened to their child would they be saying the same thing? Im with you .. she did a shit thing and im ok with the consequences of that action playin out 3 hours ago, dmeets said: I wouldn’t even categorize Garcelle as “picking on” Doorit. All she did was matter of factly say no when Doorit said she always apologizes for and owns up to her bad behavior, and elaborated when Doorit asked her to. I would argue the evidence backs up Garcelle. She basically told Garcelle time was up to feel upset over what happened to Jax. On social media posts last year she doubled down on her use of the word “attack” even after learning that the word was triggering to Garcelle. And she wasn’t the slightest bit apologetic over “child bride.” I’m a little less convinced that the JohnMellancamp post was an example of hypocrisy but Garcelle wasn’t alone in thinking that, which I blame in part on Doorit being so long winded that people can’t remember exactly what she said about Teddit. Everything else Garcelle said was totally valid IMO. Garcelle has shown tremendous restraint on the show over the years. This is her face when her memoir being thrown in the trash was dismissed. If any other Housewife's chid was cussed at, there is no way they would have handled it as gracefully and calmly as Garcelle did imo. We've seen them all explode over nothing! I remember seeing the same hurt in Garcelle's eyes when Dorit used the word attack. I've said before that I don't think Dorit meant anything by it and I know that word is thrown around in this goup, but given all of the ignorant things Dorit has said to Garcelle, the least she could have done was give a genuine apology. Do you all remember even the way she screamed at Garcelle a couple reunions ago? It really rubbed me the wrong way. It was indeed the same with Crystal and child bride. I don't think Dorit meant anything racial, but Crystal was understandably offended by the comment, and context matters. With Dorit it's always "I'm marginalized too" or "they called Priscilla Presley a child bride." Uh, so? As much as I'm team Dorit over Kyle, Garcelle is absolutely still my favorite and doesn't deserve all the backlash imo. Her biggest crimes are being snarky and asking questions to create story. She never bullies (which Dorit unfairly accused her of). She doesn't push malicious gossip (most of the other cast did to Denise). She's not a grifter. She doesn't live off the money of orphans and widows. The only other cast members who seem like truly decent people frankly are Sutton, and to my knowledge, the new ladies Boz and Jennifer. 5 5 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8531320
Cosmocrush December 13 Share December 13 I wonder if Dorito is ever going to shut up so we can get to know Boz? The editors must think that Dorito and Kyle are more entertaining than Boz - that's the only reason I can think of why they have relegated what we see of Boz to a sounding board for Dorito's constant blabbering. The Aftershow on Peacock is just an extension of Dorito talking at Boz non-stop as well only worse because Kyle isn't even on set with them. I think Dorit's marriage fell apart as soon as PK got sober and he realized she was constantly talking without really saying anything. 4 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8531469
Surrealist December 13 Share December 13 On 12/11/2024 at 8:26 AM, hoodooznoodooz said: Why do the interiors of all the yachts on the Real Housewives shows look like they shot ‘70s porn there? God, I love this forum. 🤣 We have these interesting convos that get kind of serious and deep, then someone pops in with something hilarious like you just did. Lol On 12/11/2024 at 8:54 AM, Cosmocrush said: Even my DVR couldn't take Dorito's nonstop talking anymore and cut off the show mid sentence of her bloviating at the end. This happened to you too?! I was like, where did the show go? 😭 4 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8531527
dmeets December 13 Share December 13 3 hours ago, Cosmocrush said: I think Dorit's marriage fell apart as soon as PK got sober and he realized she was constantly talking without really saying anything. As did her friendship with Kyle as soon as Kyle got sober. Alcohol-induced tinnitus must drown out the blathering. 4 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8531564
ZettaK December 13 Author Share December 13 (edited) I don't really care if Dorit is attacking Kyle. I'm not giving her a pass because of her past behavior (including dumping the poor dog at a kill shelter), and her terrible fake accent. Edited December 13 by ZettaK 7 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8531579
Stats Queen December 14 Share December 14 18 hours ago, ZettaK said: I don't really care if Dorit is attacking Kyle. I'm not giving her a pass because of her past behavior (including dumping the poor dog at a kill shelter), and her terrible fake accent. She doesn’t deserve a pass, but I’m still enjoying Kyle being taken down. Two horrible people and I am horrible because I’m enjoying the taken down of at least of one of them 9 3 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8532403
RealHousewife December 14 Share December 14 1 hour ago, Stats Queen said: She doesn’t deserve a pass, but I’m still enjoying Kyle being taken down. Two horrible people and I am horrible because I’m enjoying the taken down of at least of one of them This was me when Dorit ripped into Kyle. 1 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8532447
SemiCharmedLife December 15 Share December 15 It's been gratifying to watch the Faux Force Five imploding a little each season. Now, Erika seems to be trying to maintain a friendship with Kyle and Dorit, so they can still have their little mean girls group. I'm sure Teddi will be showing up in future episodes, based on current arrangements. Just, please don't let Rinna get anywhere near a Bravo camera! 1 1 1 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8533089
Surrealist December 15 Share December 15 3 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said: Just, please don't let Rinna get anywhere near a Bravo camera! Quote I'm sure Teddi will be showing up in future episodes, based on current arrangements. 1 2 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8533140
hoodooznoodooz December 15 Share December 15 (edited) 7 hours ago, Surrealist said: Rinna is repulsive. No redeeming qualities. Not even Lois, who reared this beast, could compensate for this despicable creature. Rinna supported Erika, even when Erika was showing her ugliest priorities in the ugliest ways. Edited December 15 by hoodooznoodooz 5 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8533141
Chalby December 16 Share December 16 On 12/10/2024 at 6:26 PM, snarts said: Kyle realized she was losing the battle, so she quickly apologized to make it go away. Kyle always seemed to be laughing at Dorit instead of with her. But Dorit is so ridiculously dramatic. I do believe Kyle is devastated by the end of her marriage, and especially by the fact MO seems so happy, and is comfortable moving on. Add to that, Kyle's good friend's suicide, which floored her. I noticed Kyle was off all last season, and she seemed to be having a mid life crisis. Now I'm realizing their marriage had ended 2 years ago, and he's happily moved out after a year. If they do reconcile after 6 months, I'll be furious because that's proof they scripted the fake divorce. PS: why does Dorit piggyback every storyline Kyle's shared...? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8534107
Chalby December 16 Share December 16 On 12/14/2024 at 9:54 PM, SemiCharmedLife said: Just, please don't let Rinna get anywhere near a Bravo camera! Boy, talk about being in the wrong group... I've liked Erika since her first season, and I miss Lisa Rinna. Yes, she could annoy me at times, but she was good tv. And she didn't bow down to Kathy Hilton. I admired Rinna for defending Erika as Erika didn't do anything criminal. The time when I was disappointed with Rinna was when she was trying to shame Denise. But Denise should have never given the gossip any legs. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8534110
RealHousewife December 16 Share December 16 9 hours ago, Chalby said: I do believe Kyle is devastated by the end of her marriage, and especially by the fact MO seems so happy, and is comfortable moving on. Add to that, Kyle's good friend's suicide, which floored her. I noticed Kyle was off all last season, and she seemed to be having a mid life crisis. I can see that too. Kyle has definitely had trauma, and I believe in giving people grace when they have trauma. Unfortunately Kyle doesn't believe in that since we all "have shit going on too." She literally said the stuff they alleged Lisa did that she did in previous seasons, so they weren't going to let her off the hook no matter how depressed Lisa was. So by that logic, Kyle has been this same person throughout the years too, other than the stuff with Morgan. Nothing else is new. And she has some nerve weaponizing the tragedy of her friend for a second season when she was so heartless regarding Lisa Vanderpump's brother's suicide right after it happened. I get that two wrongs don't make a right, but Dorit took it easy on Kyle for years. Good for Dorit not giving in and sticking with "grace time is over!" 9 hours ago, Chalby said: Boy, talk about being in the wrong group... I've liked Erika since her first season, and I miss Lisa Rinna. Yes, she could annoy me at times, but she was good tv. And she didn't bow down to Kathy Hilton. I admired Rinna for defending Erika as Erika didn't do anything criminal. The time when I was disappointed with Rinna was when she was trying to shame Denise. But Denise should have never given the gossip any legs. I'm one of the few who thought Lisa Rinna was good TV too. She could be funny and had great confessionals imo. She lost me with how cruel she was to Denise. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8534446
ladle1 December 17 Share December 17 Look, I am all for Kyle getting called out on her bullshit, but by DORIT, of all people? In a sequence of events that makes Garcelle look petty and obnoxious? That’s not how this is supposed to happen! That’s not how any of this is supposed to happen!!!! 1 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8534571
JohnnyU December 17 Share December 17 On 12/11/2024 at 1:06 AM, princelina said: And I've never liked Garcelle I really liked her initially. Not so much anymore. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8534589
bravofan27 December 17 Share December 17 Garcelle is definitely the BH's version of Emily. Piping in and trying to be relevant and the voice of reason, when no one is remotely interested in them because they are both so insecure they do anything they can to deflect attention away from them so no one realizes how nothing they bring. They let Crystal go because she was too quiet, so maybe Garcelle feels the need to say something-- anything to earn her money and spot on the show. I think Garcelle is generally a guarded person-- even her conversations with her kids seem awkward and forced and uncomfortable. Dorit is an easy target. Regarding PK and Mo losing interest in their wives, I think they realized they weren't making money as fast as their wives were spending it and realized they could find someone(s) hotter and much cheaper. They are business men, and they weren't getting their money's worth. I think of it as they "sold their stock" and are shopping for new ventures to invest in. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8534747
bravofan27 December 17 Share December 17 (edited) On 12/11/2024 at 5:26 PM, dogy35 said: Have detested Dorit most of her time on this show, but Garcelle was totally wrong (& shit-stirring, IMO) when she said Dorit had stated that she wasn't "friends" with Teddi. Dorit clearly had said previously, in perfect Housewifese, that "Her" & I 🙄 were not close friends. (One day, will they find Ho's with understanding of pronoun use??) Garcelle wasn't even there at the concert. Think it's jealousy. She also acted like Dorit was lying about the home invasion saying her story didn't make sense, and then blamed PK saying he staged it for insurance money. https://tvshowsace.com/2024/12/14/rhobh-garcelle-beauvais-ties-dorits-husband-to-home-invasion/ https://www.etonline.com/garcelle-beauvais-says-dorit-kemsleys-robbery-wouldnt-happen-the-way-she-claims-221101 Edited December 17 by bravofan27 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8534757
Keywestclubkid December 17 Share December 17 (edited) These woman never give grace but always want it .. Kyle ran over Lisa Vanderpump when her brother killed himself didnt give her a moment kept her foot on her neck and called her everything but her CHRISTIAN name, but is now acting like these woman should treat her with kid gloves cause her friend killed herself and shes going through a time ... Girl? Edited December 17 by Keywestclubkid 9 4 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8534972
politichick December 17 Share December 17 On 12/11/2024 at 8:12 AM, Keywestclubkid said: i think it was the drunk aspect .. had Erika done that sober and clear headed like she did with Denise's daughters and calling them teenage sluts or tried to double down on it after the fact (she immediately apologized and saw it was wrong to do to her son) then YES i could see this point Dorit isnt the weaker one .. i dont get this shes weak she runs her mouth constantly Garcelle had and has every right to come for Dorit at any time she feels like it and to side eye the woman after all that .. in my opinion ... just my two cents Also, didn't Erika offer both Garcelle and the son what appeared to be sincere apologies? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8535142
nicole21290 December 17 Share December 17 8 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said: These woman never give grace but always want it .. Kyle ran over Lisa Vanderpump when her brother killed himself didnt give her a moment kept her foot on her neck and called her everything but her CHRISTIAN name, but is now acting like these woman should treat her with kid gloves cause her friend killed herself and shes going through a time ... Girl? It may be that it's insufficient to make up for the comment she made (which she has said was wrong and apologised for) or for the way they kept insisting Lisa was in the wrong re. the tabloids, but if one believes Kyle, in terms of Lisa's brother's death, there's slightly more to the story. As per her blog on Bravo at the time of the early episodes airing: In April, Lisa lost her brother. My heart broke for her. She didn’t leave her house for about a month, but we were in constant contact. Once she felt OK enough to go out, we shared a quiet dinner discussing what she was going through. Lisa doesn’t like to show emotion, so I was relieved to hear her open up about it. I think it’s an important part of healing. Since Lisa lost her brother, we spoke daily except for when I was in Europe with my family for our summer vacation. 1 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8535279
RealHousewife December 18 Share December 18 5 hours ago, politichick said: Also, didn't Erika offer both Garcelle and the son what appeared to be sincere apologies? Yes, Garcelle and Erika had a whole meeting about what Erika did, and it wasn't Erika that dismissed the issue or thought it was hilarious after the fact. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8535380
Chalby December 18 Share December 18 On 12/16/2024 at 1:06 PM, RealHousewife said: And she has some nerve weaponizing the tragedy of her friend for a second season when she was so heartless regarding Lisa Vanderpump's brother's suicide right after it happened. I'm one of the few who thought Lisa Rinna was good TV too. She could be funny and had great confessionals imo. She lost me with how cruel she was to Denise. I don't recall Kyle weaponizibg her friend's suicide, and only saw it during that memorial party last year. Sadly, karma probably woke Kyle up to the trauma Lisa experienced, but far too late. We know that Kyle would have buried the hatchet, gladly with LVP, but Lisa wasn't having, or needing, it. I'd bet money that Kyle still regrets how that all went down. But LVP could fight with the dirtiest of them. 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8535580
Keywestclubkid December 18 Share December 18 16 hours ago, nicole21290 said: It may be that it's insufficient to make up for the comment she made (which she has said was wrong and apologised for) or for the way they kept insisting Lisa was in the wrong re. the tabloids, but if one believes Kyle, in terms of Lisa's brother's death, there's slightly more to the story. As per her blog on Bravo at the time of the early episodes airing: In April, Lisa lost her brother. My heart broke for her. She didn’t leave her house for about a month, but we were in constant contact. Once she felt OK enough to go out, we shared a quiet dinner discussing what she was going through. Lisa doesn’t like to show emotion, so I was relieved to hear her open up about it. I think it’s an important part of healing. Since Lisa lost her brother, we spoke daily except for when I was in Europe with my family for our summer vacation. sorry what she wrote in that blog and how she treated Lisa that season DON'T correlate.. we all saw how she treated her this blog im calling total BS 1 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8535749
MissFeatherbottom December 18 Share December 18 On 12/11/2024 at 8:26 AM, hoodooznoodooz said: Why do the interiors of all the yachts on the Real Housewives shows look like they shot ‘70s porn there? I've always wondered this. The decor has not changed much and is still very tacky. Not sure why they get so excited about it honestly. 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8535770
RealHousewife December 18 Share December 18 9 hours ago, Chalby said: I don't recall Kyle weaponizibg her friend's suicide, and only saw it during that memorial party last year. Sadly, karma probably woke Kyle up to the trauma Lisa experienced, but far too late. We know that Kyle would have buried the hatchet, gladly with LVP, but Lisa wasn't having, or needing, it. I'd bet money that Kyle still regrets how that all went down. But LVP could fight with the dirtiest of them. I thought she did in the episode when she brought up her friend and asked Dorit to continue to give her grace due to it. It is hard to say imo. Kyle never seemed to enjoy Lisa the way she enjoys Teddi. I agree that LVP could fight dirty (pushing Mauricio cheating for example), but I think she is a good friend until you cross her. 54 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said: sorry what she wrote in that blog and how she treated Lisa that season DON'T correlate.. we all saw how she treated her this blog im calling total BS Agreed. I’m not saying Lisa is a saint and Kyle is always at fault for everything, but her treatment of Lisa was so cold when she just lost her brother. Kyle pushed her off the show at her most vulnerable. 3 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8535782
MissFeatherbottom December 18 Share December 18 38 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said: sorry what she wrote in that blog and how she treated Lisa that season DON'T correlate.. we all saw how she treated her this blog im calling total BS Agreed, this is not how it went down. 9 minutes ago, RealHousewife said: IAgreed. I’m not saying Lisa is a saint and Kyle is always at fault for everything, but her treatment of Lisa was so cold when she just lost her brother. Kyle pushed her off the show at her most vulnerable. This is how it went down regardless of what Kyle says! 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8535792
Chalby Wednesday at 09:37 PM Share Wednesday at 09:37 PM 4 hours ago, RealHousewife said: It is hard to say imo. Kyle never seemed to enjoy Lisa the way she enjoys Teddi. Definitely! For whatever reason, Teddi and Kyle have a friendship that is closer than even her sisters. LVP and she had fun, but Kyle should have never helped orchestrate the confrontation with LVP about social media/texts re: dog. That wasn't an appropriate time. And I do believe Kyle regrets how it went down, but LVP will never interact with her again. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151041-s14e4-twisted-sisterhood/page/2/#findComment-8535989
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