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shapeshifter

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9 hours ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

It seems jb pritzker is likely to run too Illinois governor. 
I know little about him. 

He was my governor during the days of the pandemic lockdown.
Every day he came outside at noon and spoke on camera to the public with a serious, clear, calm voice. 
He gave at least half of the the time to Ngozi Ezike, director of the Illinois Department of Public Health at that time.
As far as billionaires go, he's more Bill Gates, not Musk.
 

 

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Annber03
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And yet the same people who are awed by his celebrity are also the ones talkng about how celebritees need to stay out of politics. You'll pardon me if I can't take their critiques all that seriously. 

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For as long as I live, I will never understand the hold this guy has over people. 

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Everything I want to say would be a string of curse words at this point.  Hope you're happy, people who decided to be all precious with your votes or who felt this guy deserved another chance aft

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peacheslatour

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This is fine. https://www.alternet.org/trump-ally-senator-executed/?

One of President Donald Trump's closest associates is now publicly calling for a Democratic member of the U.S. Senate to be killed over a bill he introduced to rein in "corruption."

In a post to his X account, Trump confidant Roger Stone insisted that Sen. Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.) was compromised by the Chinese Communist Party because of a company he co-founded getting venture capital from a Chinese company. Stone wrote that Kelly should be "charged with treason and if convicted executed, consistent with federal law."

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annzeepark914

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The gov of KY fits but he's always looked so uncomfortable in interviews (he gets that deer in the headlights look). Sen. Chris Murphy is separated (so is the Donald but no one's talking about that!) Sen. Chris Van Hollen (born in Pakistan but dad was a foreign service officer). I like Sheldon Whitehouse of RI. Whenever he's interviewed, he commands attention and explains things so well. JMO😉

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mariah23

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43 minutes ago, annzeepark914 said:

The gov of KY fits but he's always looked so uncomfortable in interviews (he gets that deer in the headlights look). Sen. Chris Murphy is separated (so is the Donald but no one's talking about that!) Sen. Chris Van Hollen (born in Pakistan but dad was a foreign service officer). I like Sheldon Whitehouse of RI. Whenever he's interviewed, he commands attention and explains things so well. JMO😉

Andy Beshear and this Kentuckian would vote for him in a heartbeat.  He has the highest rating of any governor in the country.

And he only was in office for barely three months when COVID began.

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Kemper

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3 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

This is fine. https://www.alternet.org/trump-ally-senator-executed/?

One of President Donald Trump's closest associates is now publicly calling for a Democratic member of the U.S. Senate to be killed over a bill he introduced to rein in "corruption."

In a post to his X account, Trump confidant Roger Stone insisted that Sen. Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.) was compromised by the Chinese Communist Party because of a company he co-founded getting venture capital from a Chinese company. Stone wrote that Kelly should be "charged with treason and if convicted executed, consistent with federal law."

How is this not against the law? Calling for someone to be killed? And from a member of Congress. Aren't threats like this supposed to be illegal and can be prosecuted? 

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shapeshifter

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9 hours ago, ProudMary said:

None of this is true, but I don't blame you. This is the tale that FOX, OAN and all other right-wing media is spinning. What happened in Newark yesterday is a watershed moment. Getting the facts straight now is important.

I'll begin with some written context from March, followed by a YouTube clip featuring live video that includes the three US Reps who had a scheduled appointment at the facility, who were assaulted by the "ICE Agents." I put that in quotes because we have no idea who these "agents" are. They're not wearing any badges, they're not showing any ID, and they are hiding their identities behind masks. They are secret police! (Video length is 7:19.)

Also, of tremendous importance, Mayor Baraka, was not only arrested, he was also disappeared for a substantial period of time yesterday, before he was ultimately released. During the period following his (illegal) arrest, Trump attorney Alina Habba spoke to the media and was asked where Msyor Baraka was being held. She refused to give that information. 

It should slso be added that Mayor Baraka, who has served as the Mayor of NJ's largest city for more than a decade, is currently running for Governor of the state.

Yesterday's actions by this regime were the latest test of just how much they can get away with. They've upped the ante from immigrants to political opponents. It shouldn't be lost on anyone that Mayor Baraka is Black, and that two of the three Reps who were assaulted are Black women. This is not by chance.

Edited to add: Who was on the other end of that phone call to the "ICE Agent" that gave the order to arrest the Mayor of NJ's largest city?

Newark Issues 'Stop Work' Order On New ICE Detention Center

https://patch.com/new-jersey/newarknj/newark-issues-stop-work-order-new-ice-detention-center

6 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

Thank you!…I am curious to read an interview with one of these armed, masked agents.
Eventually there will be some.

Update:
CNN interview with the Mayor of Newark who was detained by ICE:
https://youtu.be/JXP90BvUtEg

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Soapy Goddess

Soapy Goddess

22 hours ago, Annber03 said:

I don't know, how about, "Yeah, you're right, he shouldn't be out here inciting a violent riot to try and overturn a democratic election"? Or how about, "Yeah, he should abide by the court orders that have been handed down thus far." Because you and I sure as hell wouldn't get by with that without consequences. Just to name a couple obvious, easy examples right off the top of my head. 

 

If you're going to answer your own questions, don't waste your time asking. 

shapeshifter

shapeshifter

Talk about “Feelings” getting stirred😠😩😖😡:

I suppose “Dictatorship” doesn’t quite fit when 🥭 has appointed a whole army of psychos to give orders.

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On 5/7/2025 at 7:49 PM, annzeepark914 said:

Repubs don't seem to have problems with kids working in factories--jobs that civilized folks save for the grown-ups (the people who have a hard enough time keeping themselves protected from dangerous machinery).

Yeah, but they want to go back to the time when immigrant children from "inferior" countries worked in the factories. In earlier times that meant swarthy-toned people from certain countries in Europe. Now it means non-white immigrants and poor Americans that aren't white.

On 5/8/2025 at 3:17 AM, Soapy Goddess said:

He owns the silly stuff he posts and says without laughing at the end of every sentence. The picture where he was dressed as a pope was a meme. He didn't make it or put it together.

As has already been pointed out, he didn't have to let it be posted on his SM. THAT was what was disrespectful. Just like you don't come to a wedding dressed in a white bridal gown unless you're the bride yourself, you don't show yourself wearing Papal garb unless you are the Pope. Don't tell me he doesn't know that. He just doesn't care, he thinks he's above that kind of respect for others. It was not a "joke". He was showing the world he thinks he's on the same level with the Pope, or even above it. That he can "own" and be the Pope whenever he damn well feels like it. And THAT's what's offensive about it. 

On 5/8/2025 at 3:28 AM, Soapy Goddess said:

I will admit he's made some questionable choices. But his appreciation of loyalty knows no bounds.

At this point I don't see how the list of questionable choices isn't far longer than the list of sound ones. And if that's not a deal breaker by now I don't know what to say.

Narcissists appreciate loyalty because they know they can get people loyal to them to do pretty much anything they want them to do. They know just what buttons to press in insecure people that will get them that loyalty. They make promises, stroke their egos, etc. But don't let it fool you, they don't do this because they appreciate good people. It's because those are the people they can manipulate for their own gain. Hundreds (if not thousands by now) of professionals in the mental health community have already come out to say that Trump is a narcissist and this kind of stuff is right out of "the Narcissist Handbook", so to speak.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/24/trump-nyt-ad-george-conway-pac

On 5/8/2025 at 3:49 AM, Soapy Goddess said:

I don't know who you heard that from because that's not the reason he won. He won because he promised to close the border. That's the #1 issue we had, not the economy. Tariffs screwed with the 401K, not the economy as it was.

That's not what I'm reading. Many polls and other statistical sources credit Trump's win to Independents and fence sitters who said they voted for him based on what they thought he would do to help the economy. So it was not the border that made Trump win. That may have been the issue his base voted on more than anything but that didn't put him over the edge to win.

He made some big promises to "fix" the economy right away. I've posted on this before with sources. Now many of those independents and other fence sitters that voted for him on this are having "buyer's remorse" (or voter's remorse). If you're not seeing these articles you're not seeing most of the news. I'm sure the right wing news outlets suppress this kind of information, though, because it doesn't fit their narrative. Same for tariffs not screwing with the economy. Even big finance people are warning us how tariffs are already screwing with the economy. Travel and tourism being way down is only one example. There are many more. If some people don't think that's "screwing with the economy" I don't know what reality they're living in but it's not mine.

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Dimity

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1 hour ago, Yeah No said:

Travel and tourism being way down is only one example. There are many more. If some people don't think that's "screwing with the economy" I don't know what reality they're living in but it's not mine.

The MAGA attitude towards the economy is very much the same as their attitude towards science and Neil Degrasse Tyson's response to that applies to it just as well.

"The good thing about science is that it's true, whether or not you believe in it."

 

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On 5/8/2025 at 2:33 PM, bluegirl147 said:

And for those that do have health insurance it never covers everything. And they are always wanting to cover less while charging more.  My father died in 1991 after a lengthy hospital stay. He had Medicare and a supplemental.  Between them they covered 100% of everything. Same with my husband when he died in 2012.  I can almost guarantee that would not be the case now.

I know @StatisticalOutlier (our resident Medicare expert) already covered this, but it depends on what supplemental plan you have, and yes, plan G pretty much covers 100% after deductibles, which aren't bad as they go, but the premiums are high as have already been posted, and that's in addition to the regular Medicare part A premium of $185/month. But they are well worth it in my opinion. They just keep going up and that's the problem. My husband and I have Plan G.

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9 minutes ago, Dimity said:

The MAGA attitude towards the economy is very much the same as their attitude towards science and Neil Degrasse Tyson's response to that applies to it just as well.

"The good thing about science is that it's true, whether or not you believe in it."

Yeah, I love that. Republicans are like Penny's boyfriend Zack on "Big Bang Theory" when he said, "That's what I love about science. There is no one right answer".

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bluegirl147

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The media always pushed the narrative as Reagan was folksy. He was never held to account. Not for not only disregarding but mocking the beginning of the AIDS crisis.  Not for Iran Contra.  Not for all the economic shenanigans that we are still feeling the effects of.  And now the media is doing the same with Trump.  Even when they report the bad things he does they always frame it in such a way that normalizes it.  Like Trump seeks to strengthen our ties to Canada when they should be saying Trump tries to bully Canada to become part of the US.

And whoever is wearing those masks as they abduct people probably doesn't want to be identified so they can't be standing in court one day saying they were only following orders.  Surely someone somewhere is documenting all this in preparation for what I hope is an upcoming charge of human rights violations.  How far our country has fallen.

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ProudMary

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36 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Surely someone somewhere is documenting all this in preparation for what I hope is an upcoming charge of human rights violations.  How far our country has fallen.

Even stronger; crimes against humanity. Several of the criteria have already been met by this regime and those are just the crimes we know of. 

How far our country has fallen, indeed. 😥

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55 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

The media always pushed the narrative as Reagan was folksy. He was never held to account. Not for not only disregarding but mocking the beginning of the AIDS crisis.  Not for Iran Contra.  Not for all the economic shenanigans that we are still feeling the effects of.  And now the media is doing the same with Trump.  Even when they report the bad things he does they always frame it in such a way that normalizes it.  Like Trump seeks to strengthen our ties to Canada when they should be saying Trump tries to bully Canada to become part of the US.

And whoever is wearing those masks as they abduct people probably doesn't want to be identified so they can't be standing in court one day saying they were only following orders.  Surely someone somewhere is documenting all this in preparation for what I hope is an upcoming charge of human rights violations.  How far our country has fallen.

1984 - the Dems certainly made sure Reagan was lucky in his enemies.

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Lantern7

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Happy Mother’s Day to any and all mothers reading this! I had breakfast with my mother, went home . . . then napped for 4-5 hours. I gotta fix myself sooner rather than later.

Speaking of Mother’s Day . . . has Fearless Leader or anyone MAGA tried to hijack the holiday? They seem keen to make more mothers, though not for the best of reasons. Just another way they ensure most people can’t have nice things.

I’ve seen a few of you on the SNL thread. For those who don’t watch . . . this sketch made me smile. I hope it makes you smile as well.

Yeah, they had Trump hijack the cold open, but I’m not sharing that. I don’t hate the guy playing him. He does a decent job. I just figure Trump is like the Weeping Angels of Doctor Who . . . even something representing Trump can be seen as bad as the real thing.

Have I shared that here before? Apologies if I have.

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Spartan Girl

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13 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

Yeah, they had Trump hijack the cold open, but I’m not sharing that. I don’t hate the guy playing him. He does a decent job. I just figure Trump is like the Weeping Angels of Doctor Who . . . even something representing Trump can be seen as bad as the real thing.

Maybe it’s the bitterness talking, but whenever I see SNL do Trump these days, I think of all the episodes where the writers portrayed Biden as senior because that was all they could do and I can’t help but think to myself, “You motherfuckers wanted this to happen.” They and a lot of the late night talk shows contributed to the voter apathy.

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annzeepark914

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14 minutes ago, Absolom said:

It's just my opinion, but given my experience with multiple family members with dementia, I'd say he already has it.

This is why I believe he's just there as a figure head, enjoying getting revenge on his critics (& any legit people who had anything to do with his court cases) & of course, playing golf. Meanwhile, Russell Vought, Stephen Miller, & the rest of the right wingers are running the show (& our federal government into the ground).

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Annber03

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10 minutes ago, fastiller said:

Also @Spartan Girl, remember that SNL had Trump on as host.  They normalised him. Just like Jimmy Fallon did on his show, toussling (sp?) his hair & all.

My mom asked me about the controversy around the Fallon interview once, 'cause she hadn't heard about it, and I said to her, "You know how Nixon showed up on 'Laugh-In' back in the day? This was kinda like that." She understood very quickly after that :p. 

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Affogato

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1 hour ago, Absolom said:

It's just my opinion, but given my experience with multiple family members with dementia, I'd say he already has it.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-dementia-evidence-overwhelming-top-psychiatrist-1881247
 

from 3/24

Donald Trump Dementia Evidence 'Overwhelming,' Says Top Psychiatrist

If he were to become president he would have to be immediately removed from office via the 25th Amendment as dangerously unable to fulfill the responsibilities of office," Dodes, who is also a distinguished fellow of the American Academy of Addiction Psychiatry, added, citing the 1967 mechanism that allows for a president to be removed due to unfitness.

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peacheslatour

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1 hour ago, Spartan Girl said:

Maybe it’s the bitterness talking, but whenever I see SNL do Trump these days, I think of all the episodes where the writers portrayed Biden as senior because that was all they could do and I can’t help but think to myself, “You motherfuckers wanted this to happen.” They and a lot of the late night talk shows contributed to the voter apathy.

That's because Lorne Michaels is a soulless shill.

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Absolom

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1 minute ago, Affogato said:

from 3/24

Donald Trump Dementia Evidence 'Overwhelming,' Says Top Psychiatrist

Indeed.  

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Trump, 77, would "seemingly forget how the sentence began and invent something in the middle" resulting in "an incomprehensible word salad"—a behavior she argued is observed "frequently in patients who have dementia."

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Unlike normal aging, which is characterized by forgetting names or words, Trump repeatedly shows something very different: confusion about reality.

 

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Yeah No

Yeah No

5 hours ago, Affogato said:

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-dementia-evidence-overwhelming-top-psychiatrist-1881247
 

from 3/24

Donald Trump Dementia Evidence 'Overwhelming,' Says Top Psychiatrist

If he were to become president he would have to be immediately removed from office via the 25th Amendment as dangerously unable to fulfill the responsibilities of office," Dodes, who is also a distinguished fellow of the American Academy of Addiction Psychiatry, added, citing the 1967 mechanism that allows for a president to be removed due to unfitness.

That was interesting. The article below is an interview with a Psychologist, Dr. John Gartner is on the subject of Trump's malignant narcissism and undiagnosed dementia. He sounds very much like several of us here, even using the word "sanewashing" and making Hitler analogies. He is very intelligent and on point and even a bit scary in his predictions. It's worth a read:

https://mindsitenews.org/2025/04/01/sanewashed-trump-dementia-and-mental-illness/

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Soapy Goddess

Soapy Goddess

17 hours ago, Yeah No said:

you don't show yourself wearing Papal garb unless you are the Pope.

Don Novello would beg to differ.

17 hours ago, Yeah No said:

That's not what I'm reading. Many polls and other statistical sources credit Trump's win to Independents and fence sitters who said they voted for him based on what they thought he would do to help the economy. So it was not the border that made Trump win. That may have been the issue his base voted on more than anything but that didn't put him over the edge to win.

He made some big promises to "fix" the economy right away. I've posted on this before with sources. Now many of those independents and other fence sitters that voted for him on this are having "buyer's remorse" (or voter's remorse). If you're not seeing these articles you're not seeing most of the news. I'm sure the right wing news outlets suppress this kind of information, though, because it doesn't fit their narrative. Same for tariffs not screwing with the economy. Even big finance people are warning us how tariffs are already screwing with the economy. Travel and tourism being way down is only one example. There are many more. If some people don't think that's "screwing with the economy" I don't know what reality they're living in but it's not mine.

Since we obviously have opposing sources for information, I can only tell you what I know from fellow Reps and others that I have spoken with. They all say it's the border. Even legal immigrants were happy to have a secure border as they are the ones that are/were afraid of losing their jobs to the undocumented.

Agree he touted a better economy, but he believes that tariffs will help us get there. Like everyone, I'm not a fan of tariffs either, but apparently this is his way of dealing with Putin. They're both very stubborn in their beliefs. 

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Soapy Goddess

Soapy Goddess

15 hours ago, Dimity said:

The right answer if they are at all willing to concede that things are not going well is to screech "Biden"

What we should be screeching is "Dr. Jill". No one can tell me that she wasn't pushing her husband to stay in the race. All because she enjoys the high life. And now that they're "broke" (not broke, broke...but broke for them) she's dragging him out on a 'publicity tour' to tout their upcoming book. She should be ashamed of herself.

Yeah No

Yeah No

On 5/10/2025 at 3:10 AM, Soapy Goddess said:

 This kind of thing shouldn't be happening. People aren't  Trump isn't  happy unless there's some sort of chaos. The tit for tat needs to stop because we're all just spinning our wheels and getting nowhere fast.

Fixed it for you. If anyone needs to stop creating the chaos, it's HIM.

On 5/11/2025 at 2:15 AM, Soapy Goddess said:

Where is it written that anyone deserves an answer?

You gave an answer, it just wasn't a very enlightening one. If you didn't want to answer it you could have just ignored it.

10 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Don Novello would beg to differ.

First of all, Don Novello is a comedian and not the president of the United States. AFAIK U.S. presidents have a responsibility to portray themselves and the country in a manner that shows respect to other countries and people. And portraying himself as pope on WH social media shows disrespect. It doesn't matter how funny he thought it was. It was not appropriate for him to do under those circumstances. But we all know Trump doesn't think any of that applies to him.

Secondly, Fr. Sarducci is the fictional persona that declared himself Pope, not Don Novello, although he created the character of Fr. Sarducci. It's not like Don Novello the real person was equating himself with the Pope. Don Novello was showing how Fr. Sarducci had some quirky and strange ideas. And it was clearly done purely in jest in the context of a comedy show, not a public post from the WH itself. The President of the United States is not a comedian or a fictional character. The president has responsibilities to uphold the country's image on the world scene that comedians and comedy shows in general don't have.

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Since we obviously have opposing sources for information, I can only tell you what I know from fellow Reps and others that I have spoken with. They all say it's the border. Even legal immigrants were happy to have a secure border as they are the ones that are/were afraid of losing their jobs to the undocumented.

My sources are independent polls and surveys, not word of mouth from fellow Democrats. And please don't tell me that those polls and surveys are all fake and a conspiracy controlled by Democrats or the "Democratic media" because they are NOT, just like all the polling places weren't run by Democrats that "rigged" their results. Those were run by both Democrats and Republicans. Same for the polls and surveys. In fact, I think I remember once tuning into Fox News on a Sunday morning and hearing about those polls. So it's not just the "Democratic media".

25 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Agree he touted a better economy, but he believes that tariffs will help us get there. Like everyone, I'm not a fan of tariffs either, but apparently this is his way of dealing with Putin. They're both very stubborn in their beliefs. 

I don't know that tariffs are the way he's dealing with Putin though, despite his threats. It seems more like he's playing right into Putin's hand with the tariffs and threats despite what he thinks, but what do I know?

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Mollywolly555

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What has he said that's not egregious according to non-Dems?

I'm throwing that out there even though I know you won't answer, or provide any evidence to support your position, but maybe someone else in the forums is more astute about supporting their statements.

 I just seriously cannot remember anything he said that wasn't egregious, bombastic, nonfactual, or fricking confusing. 

Don't bring up Biden... that's so tiresome and pointless cuz he's not in charge anymore. 

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On 5/11/2025 at 1:27 AM, Soapy Goddess said:

If you're going to answer your own questions, don't waste your time asking. 

And good job continuing to deflect on having to answer any questions anyone asks you.

All I wanted to know was why you keep harping on about how important it is for immigrants to follow the law, but you don't seem even remotely bothered by Trump's constant flouting of the laws and refusal to obey laws. You keep insisting that you don't agree with everything he's done, so it'd be nice if you could, y'know, prove that and answer a simple question where you can show that, yeah, you agree with me and other people that it's wrong that he's not adhering to the same laws he expects everyone else to live by. 

Apparently that's jjust too much to ask, I guess. But thanks for proving once again how Trump supporters continue to give Trump a pass on everything he does, no matter how awful or illegal it may be. If you're going to do that, then I don't want to hear any more complaints about immigrants and whether or not they should be following the laws of our country when it comes to crossing the border. 

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