Chit-Chat: The Feels

[Anela]

9 minutes ago, Makai said:

Compassion for what, though? Compassion is something you have for people struggling and suffering. Not agreeing with my views is not a condition someone is suffering through. I do have a great deal of compassion for Laken Riley’s parents. What happened was horrific. 

I also have compassion for the families of all the women who have been killed my men when they are out jogging or hiking (or just existing). The numbers are disturbingly high. I do find it interesting that many of the same people who use one senseless murder to cast suspicion on all immigrants will cry “not all men” even though numbers prove that men as a whole are a much greater threat to women than illegal immigrants as a whole.  

Same! 

[ebk57]

29 minutes ago, Anela said:

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/community/boise/article300848249.html

 

Video from that town hall.

https://www.threads.net/@jana_morse/post/DGa9pmwPWxd?xmt=AQGzwqGf6VMMw5hEOvh-T_ggJWgy2GO07lmQjGAiRFhWHw&fbclid=IwY2xjawIobltleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHb7WRG0Dj86LQQM92Sd-0d3Fvv4IEZImyYdiNPSds3D1KqH9tKQR--kyYA_aem_c6GLZronPnTGreFKqQLgdw

That video make me furious.  Why was everyone sitting around filming with their phones and not doing anything to help that woman?? Block the aisle... or something.  That's outrageous. 

[PRgal]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

I swear he thinks he is still doing the Apprentice and this is the White House season. He thinks it's all about ratings and getting renewed.  He is always playing to his audience.

Didn’t that happen the last time?  Many didn’t last two months. 

[Lantern7]

1 hour ago, tres bien said:

At Saturday’s CPAC Trump asks his audience which do we like better. Crooked Joe or Sleepy Joe

Does he knows what year it is. Where he is 

1939. Germany.

Too obvious?

I’m back to going through stuff in my life. Nice to see Don, Elon and their minions continue to make a mockery out of reality itself. Also, the government in Idaho should just give us their potatoes and STFU.

[tres bien]

48 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

I think Musk thinks he can take over.  Like an actual coup.  He floated that idea of everyone getting a check due to all the "fraud" he is finding.  He wants people to be on his side. 

He’s gone off the deep end with power.

At CPAC this weekend he showed up waving a chainsaw and telling the audience he’s open to auditing the Federal Reserve and accusing the Democrats of treason 

[peacheslatour]

Of course the difference here is that President Camacho listened to the smart, educated people when there was trouble.

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[tres bien]

Yosemite National Park workers protested the federal firings by hanging an upside down flag off the side of El Capitan as a symbol of national distress 

Things are going down the tubes faster than I thought 

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[peacheslatour]

6 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Yosemite National Park workers protested the federal firings by hanging an upside down flag off the side of El Capitan as a symbol of national distress 

Things are going down the tubes faster than I thought 

I saw that today. Good for them.

[Bastet]

17 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Yosemite National Park workers protested the federal firings by hanging an upside down flag off the side of El Capitan as a symbol of national distress 

Their statement is great, calling out the "drill, baby, drill" end game:

“The purpose of this exercise of free speech is to disrupt without violence and draw attention to the fact that public lands in the United States are under attack.  The Department of the Interior issued a series of secretarial orders that position drilling and mining interests as the favored uses of America’s public lands and threaten to scrap existing land protections and conservation measures. Firing 1,000s of staff regardless of position or performance across the nation is the first step in destabilizing the protections in place for these great places.

These losses, while deeply personal and impactful, may also be invisible to visitors and members of the public — we are shining a spotlight on them by putting a distress flag on El Capitan in view of Firefall. Think of it as your public lands on strike.”

[Annber03]

13 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

That's totally wrong.

No, it's not. We literally have stories in here of that happening to people. I know you keep brushing our concerns off as "tedious", but if you're going to join the conversation, it might do you well to actually pay attention to what's being said and posted here. 

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Please stop patronizing me. All I said was that I'm against criminals coming into our country illegally. And unfortunately, there's no way to know that until the unthinkable happens.

And all I'm saying is that the vast majorty of people who enter this country are not criminals. And most of those who don't enter through legal means are not doing so because they want to commit violent crime, it's because the legal route was not working fast enough for them/they were desperate to get out of a dangerous situation/etc. 

Also, again, I'll take your concerns about criminals more seriously when you stop coming in to defend Donald "convicted felon" Trump at every turn.  If he gets to be president despite committing many crimes, then law and order clearly doesn't mean as much in this country as it should, does it? If Trump doesn't have to follow the law, it's a little rich to get upset about immigrants not doing the same. 

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Again, if they came here legally...in a way that most of our ancestors did, I have no objection whatsoever. Being ethnic, I don't discriminate. 

Many of our ancestors didn't come here legally, though. I guarantee that the people railing against illegal immigrants would probably be shocked to find out they likely had an ancestor or two (or more) who did not follow legal channels when arriving here. 

And how nice you don't discriminate. Unfortunately, this administration very much does. As do the vast majority of people railing against immigrants. 

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For the 37th time, I am NOT defending anyone's actions. I'm just posting MY "feelings" (or views). I don't expect libs to understand.

That's literally all you've been doing, you only come in here to defend or excuse something Trump or Musk are doing and saying. 

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I don't think anything about Musk. T&M have been transparent with their findings, and unless everything is a total lie, we should believe them until proven otherwise. You know, innocent until proven guilty?

LMAO, no , they have not. Not even fucking close. They lie every time they open their damn mouths, that's all they're capable of doing. Stop falling for their BS already. 

Also, any thoughts on the fact that people like you and I will be paying more in taxes than Musk under the GOP's new tax plan? Surely this goes against all your concerns about financial issues, right? Surely this flies in the face of the claim that Trump and co. were totally going to ease people's financial burdens, no? 

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The Nazi thing has been discussed ad nauseum, and I've posted my take on it numerous times.

Yes, and you continue to ignore the fact that only one party is getting a ton of support from Nazis and Nazi sympathizers, and it sure as hell ain't the Democrats. If I were you, I'd sit and really think about why that is, and why people are deeply terrifeid about the fact that the party currently in power and controlling every single branch of our government is getting support from Nazis. 

[ProudMary]

@peacheslatour Thank you for the two big belly laughs over the past hour. Those are great! 🤣

[tearknee]

2 hours ago, tres bien said:

At Saturday’s CPAC Trump asks his audience which do we like better. Crooked Joe or Sleepy Joe

Does he knows what year it is. Where he is 

What-what-what-what button?

Where am I? Who took my false teeth?

 

[JustHereForFood]

3 hours ago, tearknee said:

Worse - people on tumblr are advocating that Germans vote for Die Linke - the old SED in a previous life - but they are fascists too. Marxian socialism is fascism in a red coat.

 

Die Linke and BSW are just the other side of the same autocratic coin as AfD.

Tumblr has some good corners and I've found some great people there, but boy, that website has a huge problem with marxists/tankies/antisemites.

[tearknee]

Just now, JustHereForFood said:

Die Linke and BSW are just the other side of the same autocratic coin as AfD.

Tumblr has some good corners and I've found some great people there, but boy, that website has a huge problem with marxists/tankies/antisemites.

Pacifism is also seemingly never tempered by realism.

[heatherchandler]

13 hours ago, tres bien said:

Federal workers are getting emails asking them to explain the work they did last week. Musk says not responding will be taken as a resignation 

I don’t think it’s that crazy to have to answer this, I work in investment banking and I often have to explain why I’m valuable.  It’s called a Review and it’s annoying but I use it as a chance to toot my own horn.  It’s not that hard to come up with a list of accomplishments.

[Lugal]

1 hour ago, Annber03 said:

Many of our ancestors didn't come here legally, though. I guarantee that the people railing against illegal immigrants would probably be shocked to find out they likely had an ancestor or two (or more) who did not follow legal channels when arriving here. 

If they came in the 19th century (and weren't Chinese) there were no immigration laws so it was not possible to come illegally.

[kittykat]

1 hour ago, Annber03 said:

Many of our ancestors didn't come here legally, though. I guarantee that the people railing against illegal immigrants would probably be shocked to find out they likely had an ancestor or two (or more) who did not follow legal channels when arriving here. 

Yes once upon a time entering America was "state your name" and a medical exam.  Only when the colors of said immigrants got darker was there suddenly a need for regulations.

[PRgal]

3 minutes ago, kittykat said:

Yes once upon a time entering America was "state your name" and a medical exam.  Only when the colors of said immigrants got darker was there suddenly a need for regulations.

What's interesting is that the points system we have in Canada actually made it EASIER for people with NON-EUROPEAN origins to come.  You'd think a higher education, ability to speak English, yadda would mean more Europeans, but nope, not at all.  That's how my parents got in back in the 70s (well, they were also partially educated in Canada too.  Dad did his first master's degree while my mom dropped out (no, it wasn't because of me.  They were already citizens when I was born)).  

[Avaleigh]

1 hour ago, Annber03 said:

Also, again, I'll take your concerns about criminals more seriously when you stop coming in to defend Donald "convicted felon" Trump at every turn.  If he gets to be president despite committing many crimes, then law and order clearly doesn't mean as much in this country as it should, does it? If Trump doesn't have to follow the law, it's a little rich to get upset about immigrants not doing the same. 

Agreed. Adding to this, I find it absurd that the supposed party of law and order has no issues with Trump pardoning rioters who assaulted police officers. That's completely inconsistent with their ideas of "backing the blue" and being proponents of law and order, and personal responsibility. 

2 hours ago, Annber03 said:

Yes, and you continue to ignore the fact that only one party is getting a ton of support from Nazis and Nazi sympathizers, and it sure as hell ain't the Democrats. If I were you, I'd sit and really think about why that is, and why people are deeply terrifeid about the fact that the party currently in power and controlling every single branch of our government is getting support from Nazis. 

Nazis around the world are excited about Trump, Musk, and their administration. This should be incredibly alarming to anyone who want to live in a just and decent society. 

[DanaMB]

1 hour ago, heatherchandler said:

I don’t think it’s that crazy to have to answer this, I work in investment banking and I often have to explain why I’m valuable.  It’s called a Review and it’s annoying but I use it as a chance to toot my own horn.  It’s not that hard to come up with a list of accomplishments.

Ae these reviews via e-mail with the caveat that If you didn’t respond it would be considered a resignation?

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[Dimity]

9 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

They think if they find someone great and if all they do is scare and terrorize people it's still a good day.

It's Gestapo tactics and it's horrifying that anyone can defend this behavior.  I really don't understand how this can be happening in your country.

[ebk57]

1 hour ago, heatherchandler said:

I don’t think it’s that crazy to have to answer this, I work in investment banking and I often have to explain why I’m valuable.  It’s called a Review and it’s annoying but I use it as a chance to toot my own horn.  It’s not that hard to come up with a list of accomplishments.

Sure - every company has reviews.  But they're not asked for over a weekend by a drug-addled billionaire who is pals with your direct supervisor who doesn't feel like doing his job and asks said drug-addled friend (who doesn't even work at your company) to step in and ask questions that he has no business asking and has no business getting answers to.

Otherwise, it's exactly the same.

[Dimity]

35 minutes ago, DanaMB said:

Ae these reviews via e-mail with the caveat that If you didn’t respond it would be considered a resignation?

And it's never phrased as "tell me everything you did last week".  To even try to compare that to a performance review is ridiculous. 

[peacheslatour]

39 minutes ago, DanaMB said:

Ae these reviews via e-mail with the caveat that If you didn’t respond it would be considered a resignation?

Right? And weekly? Give me a fucking break.

[Dimity]

10 minutes ago, ebk57 said:

ask questions that he has no business asking and has no business getting answers to.

And further would not understand the answers.  This idiot wants people who work in offices to be able to demonstrate constant WORK WORK WORK as if they are on an assembly line turning out X number of widgets an hour.  It's absolutely insane. 

He doesn't know squat about what most govt depts actually do and he certainly doesn't know what the role of each person in there is.  In it's way it's like when my brother back in the day couldn't understand why I needed a master's degree "to stamp out books". 

[Annber03]

Seriously, I don't understand how, "Musk has zero business getting involved in any aspect of our govenrment's affairs in the first place" isn't the end of this discussion. There is no excuse or justification for any of the shit he's doing. None. Period. End of story. 

[LexieLily]

On 2/22/2025 at 2:48 PM, tres bien said:

We could have had a lot  done a lot and not thrown the country into a whirling dervish. But no every republican so scared of Trump went running into the corner cowering like a scared puppy instead of standing up for America and the American people 

What was it that Liz Cheney said in the J6 hearings?

"There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain."

[Lantern7]

On 2/22/2025 at 10:30 AM, Eri said:

I'd say, let's see what happens in 2026 midterm elections. If convicted felonies, Nazi salutes, illegal executive orders, a quiet Congress and soaring unemployment doesn't shake these folks, then I'm not sure what to say.  At best, their voting habits might change when they are impacted by Trump's policies but those details didn't matter before, until it affected them personally.

I wish this was guaranteed. One of the worst case scenarios is that we either don't make it that far or that there wouldn't be elections. We can take that off the board for something that could be considered oh-so-much worse.

Nothing happens. Or, barely anything happens.

There is no coup/counter-coup. The Democrats get power in both Houses, but it wouldn't be like all the MAGA Republicans would be tarred, feathered and run out of office. Trump would still be President, he'd still have an amount of power no person should be able to wield, and he'll have minions large and small to carry out his myopic will.

I want to believe in this country. I want to believe that people know better than to be taken in by Trump. Maybe they do, but they get into bed with him anyway.

13 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

What was it that Liz Cheney said in the J6 hearings?

"There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain."

And I wish I could believe in that as well.

[Blergh]

Please let's not pin everything on worst case scenarios and TRY to have some hope that things will be able to improve! Gloom and doom before the time has come will do nothing to help anything!

[Dimity]

3 hours ago, Annber03 said:

Yes, and you continue to ignore the fact that only one party is getting a ton of support from Nazis and Nazi sympathizers, and it sure as hell ain't the Democrats. If I were you, I'd sit and really think about why that is, and why people are deeply terrifeid about the fact that the party currently in power and controlling every single branch of our government is getting support from Nazis. 

Your government right now is Fascist.  People can stick their fingers in their ears and say "la la la I can't hear you" but that doesn't change what is happening.

 

[Spartan Girl]

I don’t know if anyone watched the SAG awards, but Jane Fonda’s speech for her Lifetime Achievement Award was another one we all needed to her. She spelled it out: “‘Woke’ just means you give a damn about either people.”

Never leave us, Jane.

[heatherchandler]

54 minutes ago, ebk57 said:

Sure - every company has reviews.  But they're not asked for over a weekend by a drug-addled billionaire who is pals with your direct supervisor who doesn't feel like doing his job and asks said drug-addled friend (who doesn't even work at your company) to step in and ask questions that he has no business asking and has no business getting answers to.

Otherwise, it's exactly the same.

My sister works for a drug addled billionaire.  And he’s constantly asking for updates, from everyone.  I don’t know why this seems so far fetched.

 

47 minutes ago, Dimity said:

And it's never phrased as "tell me everything you did last week".  To even try to compare that to a performance review is ridiculous. 

I’ve had weekly reviews, yep I’ve had to spell out everything I did in a week.  It was during a restructuring.  It’s not typical but it’s not crazy.

[ebk57]

1 minute ago, heatherchandler said:

My sister works for a drug addled billionaire.  And he’s constantly asking for updates, from everyone.  I don’t know why this seems so far fetched.

Yeah - she works for him.  He's her boss.  This particular drug-addled billionaire isn't the boss of anyone in the civil service - no matter what he or his pal thinks.  He's just a guy that FIC is paying back for all the money contributed to his campaign.  He's nobody.  I totally get that your sister has to answer to her boss.  

 

We really need to repeal Citizens United. 

[Bastet]

3 hours ago, ebk57 said:

We really need to repeal Citizens United. 

Never happening under this Court.  We're going to be under its thumb for a long time to come.

The lower federal courts are thus far doing their duty (of course, the administration is just ignoring their orders) in the myriad challenges to its actions, which is what kept the felon's first term from being even more damaging, but the test of whether our Constitution and derived federal laws exist on anything beyond paper anymore will be when these cases reach this new SCOTUS, which has thus far been wholly partisan, a corrupt enabler of a corrupt president.

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[Makai]

To make the email worse, the agency that sent it (not the one Musk runs) has explicitly said in the past that any mass email sent would be voluntary. Musk made his pronouncement on twitter, so employees had to hear they were being threatened with firing on social media, if they heard at all. Trump is already being sued over the implementation of this email system. 
 
Employees are being told by supervisors to hold of on responding to the email. The whole thing is a clusterfuck. 

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The brief request would appear counter to a privacy impact assessment OPM published Feb. 5 that said any mass email sent from a government-wide email system would "explicitly" state engaging with the email would be voluntary.

The OPM assessment, published in response to a lawsuit challenging the Trump administration's implementation of the email system, states seven different times that any response to the mass emails are "voluntary." The government-wide email system was also used for the "fork in the road" deferred resignation offer. 

"The Employee Response Data is explicitly voluntary," the assessment reads. "The individual federal government employees can opt out simply by not responding to the email."

 

[ProudMary]

Would someone please slap me to wake me from this fever dream?

Trump names right-wing commentator Dan Bongino as deputy FBI director

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpwd2qrn1e2o

 

[Bastet]

4 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

Would someone please slap me to wake me from this fever dream?

Trump names right-wing commentator Dan Bongino as deputy FBI director

But he's "willing and prepared to give up" his podcast to take this job, something Trump finds so notable it's part of his social media post announcing this appointment (because that's how the executive branch communicates these days, dumping shit on social media over the weekend).  His podcast!  Won't anyone think of the sacrifice this dear patriot is making for our country? 🙄

[LexieLily]

Obviously, we know he is, but Trump has to be actively trying to have the least qualified person in each position, for every position. It would be impressive if it wasn't so absolutely awful and depressing 😠

[Soapy Goddess]

11 hours ago, krankydoodle said:

I've asked before but if you aren't getting news from 'the media,' then where are you getting it from?

I thought I replied to your question: Local news, cable news, print media (yes, I still read a newspaper) and some social media. I also watch the View because I'm glutton for punishment 😜 

[Anela]

2 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

My sister works for a drug addled billionaire.  And he’s constantly asking for updates, from everyone.  I don’t know why this seems so far fetched.

 

I’ve had weekly reviews, yep I’ve had to spell out everything I did in a week.  It was during a restructuring.  It’s not typical but it’s not crazy.

Nobody elected Elon. 

[MostlyContent]

15 minutes ago, Anela said:

Nobody elected Elon. 

He's a SGE.   Although Musk isn't common, that is.  

[anony.miss]

4 hours ago, Dimity said:

 To even try to compare that to a performance review is ridiculous. 

Agreed - it's also apparently illegal:

"The largest union representing federal workers announced it sent a letter to the Office of Personnel Management chastising it for sending Musk’s directive to federal workers; the union decried the Musk directive as “plainly unlawful” and said it does not believe there’s any authority requiring workers to respond to it..."

https://archive.ph/8W3ms#selection-717.0-721.481

Not that the legality of things matters to Trump & Co. A convicted felon and rapist is running the country, so criminal behavior being normalized  - and defended - is now the default.

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters."  ~ Trump, 2016

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[Soapy Goddess]

6 hours ago, Annber03 said:

And all I'm saying is that the vast majorty of people who enter this country are not criminals. And most of those who don't enter through legal means are not doing so because they want to commit violent crime, it's because the legal route was not working fast enough for them/they were desperate to get out of a dangerous situation/etc. 

But by sheer definition, they ARE criminals since they are coming into our country illegally. And if we go by your claim that they are all crossing our border in massive amounts because they are so desperate, then how are we supposed to absorb and take care several entire countries of them? 

They are coming here with nothing but the clothes on their back. Who do you think is paying for their lodging, food, medical attention, etc?? WE are! And if you want the U.S. to absorb all these people fleeing because they are so desperate and can't wait to enter legally, then that's a major issue.

6 hours ago, Annber03 said:

Also, again, I'll take your concerns about criminals more seriously when you stop coming in to defend Donald "convicted felon" Trump at every turn.  If he gets to be president despite committing many crimes, then law and order clearly doesn't mean as much in this country as it should, does it?

This forum is NOT a court of law. Hence, I am not defending anyone. My posts are simply my opinion(s) and nothing more. I'm not asking anyone to agree with me.

6 hours ago, Annber03 said:

Many of our ancestors didn't come here legally, though.

Well, mine did and I have the documentation to prove it.

6 hours ago, Annber03 said:

They lie every time they open their damn mouths, that's all they're capable of doing. Stop falling for their BS already. 

Both sides lie. The faster dems can figure this out, the better off we'll all be to restart negotiations.

 

5 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

I don’t think it’s that crazy to have to answer this, I work in investment banking and I often have to explain why I’m valuable.  It’s called a Review and it’s annoying but I use it as a chance to toot my own horn.  It’s not that hard to come up with a list of accomplishments.

Brava! Their problem is that they don't even have one accomplishment to list! 

My first question to the entitled workers would be why are you still working from home when all of us have had to go back into our office after lock down. Must be nice to collect a big paycheck for sitting on your couch with a laptop and accomplish nothing else except binge watching Netflix.

[MostlyContent]

5 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

I don’t think it’s that crazy to have to answer this, I work in investment banking and I often have to explain why I’m valuable.  It’s called a Review and it’s annoying but I use it as a chance to toot my own horn.  It’s not that hard to come up with a list of accomplishments.

Yes, I don't think I'd be too intimidated by that.  lol!  

Employees were asked to reply with "approx. 5 bullets of what you accomplished last week and cc your manager" by Monday 11:59 p.m. ET. 

That would have taken me about 5 minutes with time to get a coffee, I think.  

I think one would *want* to know what the employees we're paying are doing in order to find out who's necessary and who might not be.  I thought that was what DOGE is suppose to be doing.   

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[Lantern7]

2 hours ago, Blergh said:

Please let's not pin everything on worst case scenarios and TRY to have some hope that things will be able to improve! Gloom and doom before the time has come will do nothing to help anything!

It's hard for me to muster hope during good times. It's a neurosis thing.

2 hours ago, Dimity said:

"Hey, it's-a Trumpnocchio!"

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[Soapy Goddess]

1 hour ago, ProudMary said:

Would someone please slap me to wake me from this fever dream?

Trump names right-wing commentator Dan Bongino as deputy FBI director

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpwd2qrn1e2o

 

So what's the problem? This quote is from your article "Bongino, 50, is former NYPD and Secret Service and worked as part of the protection detail for two presidents - George W Bush and Barack Obama."

49 minutes ago, Anela said:

Nobody elected Elon. 

Here we go again...nobody voted for DJT's cabinet either.

[Anela]

17 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

It's tit for tat...aka "weaponizing". I find it absurd that Biden ran a lawless country for 4 years (catch & release, for one) as well as all the looting countrywide. 

 

...except that IS his business as the head of DOGE

 

Nope. He's exposing fraud and corruption. Contrary to popular belief, Dems are NOT squeaky clean.

He’s going to increase our taxes, and cut them for rich people.  And in one of those memes, you are name-calling. 

[Bastet]

A very basic primer on immigration law, in relation to the terms "illegal" and "criminal", for anyone interested: Undocumented presence in the U.S. is only criminal in a narrow set of circumstances, where a person was previously deported and then returned without permission.   Otherwise, it's illegal as a violation of civil law, so let's analogize with traffic law for familiarity.  Being here in violation of immigration law is, in the overwhelming majority of cases, illegal like the majority of cases of driving in violation of traffic law -- speeding, making a prohibited U-turn, etc.  Rarely is it criminal, like DUI or vehicular manslaughter, instead.  Which is why law enforcement agents should not be deputized by the federal government (and certainly should not act alone) to mess with immigrants.  

The act of illegal entry is a misdemeanor (and, in limited circumstances, a felony).  But nearly half of undocumented immigrants did not enter the country illegally, they entered legally but later violated the conditions of their visa.  So in those cases there was never a crime to begin with, on top of there not being one now in simply being here without documentation.

Casually tossing around the term "illegal" in reference to immigrants' actions is a problem, given how many improperly equate that with "criminal".  (And, of course, referring to people as "illegals" is dehumanizing, so not okay, and specifically prohibited here.)

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[FilmTVGeek80]

26 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

But by sheer definition, they ARE criminals since they are coming into our country illegally. And if we go by your claim that they are all crossing our border in massive amounts because they are so desperate, then how are we supposed to absorb and take care several entire countries of them? 

We are not taking in entire countries. Please, get serious. This is a nation of immigrants, so we've managed to help people long before either of us was born. 

 

28 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

They are coming here with nothing but the clothes on their back. Who do you think is paying for their lodging, food, medical attention, etc?? WE are! And if you want the U.S. to absorb all these people fleeing because they are so desperate and can't wait to enter legally, then that's a major issue.

It would be great to see people like you as concerned with billionaires not paying their fair share and how the poor continue to get screwed when these idiots get tax cuts as you are with the cost of helping people fleeing certain death. 

 

30 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

This forum is NOT a court of law. Hence, I am not defending anyone. My posts are simply my opinion(s) and nothing more. I'm not asking anyone to agree with me.

Please look up the word "defending" because you don't realize what it means. Every time you stick up for one of the FIC's deplorable policies or Musk's idiotic BS, you are defending them, and you are defending their actions.

 

33 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Both sides lie. The faster dems can figure this out, the better off we'll all be to restart negotiations.

What negotiations are you talking about? All politicians lie, but they don't all lie about the same thing, and they certainly don't lie as easily as they breathe like 45. The sooner you are willing to admit this and deal with that reality, the better it will be for everyone who continues to be screwed over by the idiot you are constantly defending. 

 

35 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Brava! Their problem is that they don't even have one accomplishment to list! 

My first question to the entitled workers would be why are you still working from home when all of us have had to go back into our office after lock down. Must be nice to collect a big paycheck for sitting on your couch with a laptop and accomplish nothing else except binge watching Netflix.

They don't have one accomplishment to list? Seriously, who do you think are the people who keep parks running and do research on diseases and all the other important jobs these idiots at DOGE keep questioning? For someone who gets offended when people make assumptions about them, you sure are making a lot about the people working from home. Not everyone who worked from home did go back to work because it wasn't necessary for them to do that and do their job. Working from home does not mean people do nothing but watch Netflix all day. That's such a simplistic way of looking at things.  

 

30 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

It's tit for tat...aka "weaponizing". I find it absurd that Biden ran a lawless country for 4 years (catch & release, for one) as well as all the looting countrywide. 

Biden did not run a lawless country. That's not backed up by any evidence. There was no looting countrywide. But it's not surprising that, yet again, you can't actually deal with the topic that you're quoting. Do not pretend to care about law & order when you once again are defending someone who commits crimes, ignores the law at every turn, and pardoned a bunch of people who wanted to kill the vice president. 

Two nonsensical memes back-to-back. Impressive. It's on brand that you think that the only way to defend the FIC from Hitler comparisons is to go, "See, he hasn't killed an entire race yet." He never lowered our taxes, and he's done a hell of a lot more than hurt people's feelings. Sexual assault is just one of his litany of crimes, dehumanizing so many groups of people and killing people with his disastrous handling of a pandemic. I could go on, but of course, you'd ignore all that because Biden pardoned his son, and that's the biggest crime of all. 

What exactly are the Democrats getting exposed for? Do you have anything to back up that claim that's not Elon Musk's Twitter feed?

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8 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

For someone who gets offended when people make assumptions about them, you sure are making a lot about the people working from home. Not everyone who worked from home did go back to work because it wasn't necessary for them to do that and do their job. Working from home does not mean people do nothing but watch Netflix all day. That's such a simplistic way of looking at things.  

Thank you for answering this so well (so I don't get banned...  😉 )