Chit-Chat: The Feels

[anony.miss]

1 hour ago, Soapy Goddess said:

 Don't you see the hypocrisy in that?

I'm not seeing the value in repeatedly accusing the site and the mods of hypocrisy, negativity, non-inclusivity, etc, just because this forum exists.  Questioning the validity of this space, over and over again, seems unproductive to me,  especially since so many people here are clearly engaging with each other in ways that are meaningful to them.  JMO.

Edited February 4 by anony.miss

[Dimity]

Agitating to close this thread won't make the concern and dislike over Trump and his policies go away. At least for now anyway he hasn't managed to shut down the right to disagree with him.

[Annber03]

5 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

We're not all monsters or terrible people who are misinformed. We simple see things in a different way. 

Except when people say things that are blatantly not true and not based in anything resembling fact, then yes, they are indeed misinformed. People don't, and shouldn't, get to make up their own nonsense and pass it off as fact and expect to not get pushback on it. 

And there's a HUGE difference between seeing things in a different way and supporting policies that actively put people's lives in danger and strip them of basic civil and human rights. The former I can work with, the latter, not so much. Anyone supporting the current treatment of immigrants, or transgender people, or the efforts to take away women's ability to control their bodies, or stomping over every single one of our Constitutional norms and policies and ways of doing things, or any of the other batshit insane stuff Trump and his party have been doing over the past two weeks...that's not "seeing things in a different way", that's just being flat out cruel, or supporting those who want to be cruel.

So no, I am not going to respect that, or shrug that off as a simple difference of opinion. 

[ginger90]

12 hours ago, Bookworm 1979 said:

I think a lot of people were horrified when Trump "won" the election, so this was created so everyone could freak out together and talk about why this was upsetting to them, aka "the feels". That's my interpretation, so take it with a grain of salt.

This thread was created in September.

[Dimity]

5 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

This thread was created in September.

That's true but it wasn't activated until the election. And the mods have made it crystal clear that this is a place where no gloating is allowed. Trump supporters are free to participate as long as they remember that. I am going to assume had the election gone differently this would have been true for Harris supporters as well. 

[bluegirl147]

2 hours ago, anony.miss said:

I'm not seeing the value in repeatedly accusing the site and the mods of hypocrisy, negativity, non-inclusivity, etc, just because this forum exists.  Questioning the validity of this space, over and over again, seems unproductive to me,  especially since so many people here are clearly engaging with each other in ways that are meaningful to them.  JMO.

That is the great thing about the internet.  You can always find a place that aligns with what you believe.

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

Agitating to close this thread won't make the concern and dislike over Trump and his policies go away. At least for now anyway he hasn't managed to shut down the right to disagree with him.

Give him time.  Between Musk and Zuckerberg he is super friendly with the two people who control a massive amount of social media. Not to mention Bezos owning the Washington Post.

[Edina]

God I hope yesterday was a turning point for the practically brain dead democrats 

Senator Schatz has put a blanket hold on all state department nominees and Schumer and Jeffries are working on legislation to stop the unlawful meddling in the treasury department’s payment system (lotta good that’ll do since they no have no majority in either house)

I think it’s more effective for the dems to be the party of no. The house republicans will be unable to pass any legislation (if they even want to) including a budget next month without the dems.  Let they squirm and make their voters happy

I returned on Sunday after two weeks out of the country. I went back and read some of the posts here. There was one about people feeling despondent. If anything please don’t. That’s what MAGA’s counting on. 
I’m angry to say the least. The democrats better get their shit together and come up with a plan because it’s going to pain me not to vote in 2026 but I have to have something to vote for. I’m sick of Pelosi and Schumer running the party because they haven’t been helpful or forward thinking (Schumer may have been the worst democratic majority leader ever)

And dear democrats: stop asking me for money. I’ve blocked every text message and I’m not sending any candidate one penny ever again. Learn how to play by the MAGA rules or risk being out in the cold for a very long time 

[Yeah No]

4 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

I didn't say anything about PT being "unfair". I simply stated that a chat board who previously pulled benign posts because they were not deemed inclusive, now decides it's okay to become biased. Don't you see the hypocrisy in that? IOW, they shouldn't demand inclusivity in all threads but this one. I, too, have moderated other forums, but we were fair & balanced by enforcing the rules uniformly in ALL threads.

I don't see what is biased or non-inclusive about this thread. It isn't titled "The Feels only for Democrats to Carp about Trump and Republicans and no one else".  In fact, if you look at the first page it says it's for anyone to express their feelings on politics and makes a special effort to say that all feelings are valid and should be respected here. I think that's pretty darned inclusive and I dare say I don't think you'd get the same inclusivity and tolerance on a thread that was run by and made up of MAGA and Trump supporters. You'd likely be ridden out on a rail if you were a Democrat expecting to co-exist peacefully and with respect from anyone including the moderator.

Aside from a few rare cases where people have not respected opposing opinions here I think most of the discourse has been very respectful. And you know I haven't always thought every response was respectful here. But never have I felt that the moderator was being biased or non-inclusive in removing posts in this thread. Even I have had posts removed. If you need clarification on why a post was removed you can always ask for it. Often it's not for the reason you think.

4 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

I'm not looking for a "safe space" per se...and have expresses my opinions numerous times. That is not an issue for me. I'm sorry you missed my point about equality...that both sides deserve respect with a sanctioned thread.

And I think both sides DO get equal respect here by the board. I have posted some unpopular things here myself but never felt I was being treated with less respect by management because of it. When things have been removed there were other reasons for it, some I may not agree with, but in general I never felt treated unequally. Many other posts are removed on the board in general that you may never know about. You're not being singled out, trust me.

4 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Speaking for myself, I don't "follow him blindly". He's doing exactly what he promised to do such as closing the border for the undocumented...which is one of the big reasons he won. As you know, at first I did discuss my opinions rationally, and you saw what the reaction was. We talked about this privately a couple of times. Meanwhile, I took a breather to attend to family issues, and maybe it was a good thing because things appear to be down to a low roar. 

Fine, but you haven't enumerated on those things you don't agree with Trump about here that I can recall and that might go a long way toward posters here seeing you as not just another blind supporter. A lot of people here are genuinely curious about this here including me. At least if you voice those things people won't be so inclined to disagree with them. You can always intersperse that with what you like about what he's doing. But if you're not up to hearing disagreement with your opinions maybe it's not for you to voice them here. I have had to learn what is "safe" for me to disclose and what is not here myself the hard way. If you don't want to hear disagreement, either don't post something you know a lot of people will react to with disagreement or find a way to express it that doesn't provoke a strong reaction. Again, I have had to learn that here myself, and not just in this thread.

 

[Yeah No]

1 hour ago, Annber03 said:

Except when people say things that are blatantly not true and not based in anything resembling fact, then yes, they are indeed misinformed. People don't, and shouldn't, get to make up their own nonsense and pass it off as fact and expect to not get pushback on it. 

And there's a HUGE difference between seeing things in a different way and supporting policies that actively put people's lives in danger and strip them of basic civil and human rights. The former I can work with, the latter, not so much. Anyone supporting the current treatment of immigrants, or transgender people, or the efforts to take away women's ability to control their bodies, or stomping over every single one of our Constitutional norms and policies and ways of doing things, or any of the other batshit insane stuff Trump and his party have been doing over the past two weeks...that's not "seeing things in a different way", that's just being flat out cruel, or supporting those who want to be cruel.

So no, I am not going to respect that, or shrug that off as a simple difference of opinion. 

I agree with you. I think stating how you don't respect an opinion can be done WITH respect for the person stating it just the way you're doing right now. The difference is focusing on the opinion itself and not the person. That's a hard distinction to make in practice but one that can and should be mastered on a board where conflicting opinions are shared if there is any hope of it not devolving into a flame war. Of course the person on the receiving end might take it personally anyway but you can't be held responsible for that.

I personally think most Trump supporters and Republicans don't think they're supporting stripping anyone of their rights. They may actually disagree with and don't support Trump and his MAGA crew about that stuff but they don't see it as the horrible offense that most of us do here or just don't care that much about it. Or they're just tuning it out and focusing on what they do like. That's what I think. Of course I don't agree with that either.

[bluegirl147]

I have a FB friend who has been posting things about what Trump and Musk have been doing.  She isn't very political but she is outraged about what is going on. She has a FB friend who has been responding with comments that sound exactly like Fox News talking points. She is only seeing headlines like Trump and Musk are saving you money.  It's hard for people to know the truth when the events are being presented in such a skewed way.

[annzeepark914]

Fox "News" and Rush Limbaugh have done a great deal of harm to the US. Sneering, sarcasm, promoting conspiracies, etc., instead of sharing real, straightforward news with their audience, have created a warped attitude among these folks. 

[Milk-Eyed Mender]

Can confirm, Governor, can confirm.

[Cementhead]

54 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

“The government you elect is the government you deserve.”

― Thomas Jefferson

[DrSpaceman73]

In regard to the election and discussion about disagreements, and I'm not just referring to this thread, the era with trump of open discussion and 'Respectfully disagreeing ' is over.  

Trump insults,  demeans, disrespects and bullies his opponents continuously, repeatedly and as a way of daily discourse and functioning. 

Expecting to defend him and asking others to ignore that just is not going to happen anymore. 

We are beyond the  polite disagreement and 'oh I just have a different view' stage. 

We are on the pick and side and be ready to fight tooth and nail stage before he completely ruins and takes over the country. 

We are no longer picking between two views of which side is better to run the country. 

We are at the point of one side is seizing control illegally and the other side better respond and stop it before we are a dictatorship. 

 

[Spartan Girl]

Honestly, I just want the leopards to eat Elon Musk now.

50 minutes ago, Milk-Eyed Mender said:

Can confirm, Governor, can confirm.

Every day I’m reminded that we could have had him and Kamala. Every. Day.

[partofme]

3 minutes ago, kittykat said:

I'm all fairness I shouldn't be laughing over women losing their jobs for unfair reasons but we tried to warn them.

On a personal note it pisses me off because I am looking for work and it was already hard enough before Trump laid all these people off, some of whom are Democrats and don’t deserve this, it’s just more competition for me in an already crowded job market.  

[Notabug]

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  8 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Speaking for myself, I don't "follow him blindly". He's doing exactly what he promised to do such as closing the border for the undocumented...which is one of the big reasons he won

So, even if his border policies include things like massive tariffs, dumping undocumented people in other countries after arresting them and putting them on a plane without proper ventilation while bound hand and foot; are inherently cruel, the end justifies the means for you and for other Trump supporters?  Putting Elon Musk in charge of 'government efficiency' and then telling anyone who attended a DEI seminar as recommended during the last administration that they may no longer do their job and taking away their access to their work computers, etc is ok with you?  Outright stating that essentially everyone working for the federal government currently specifically holds a grudge against the president and must be fired and replaced by Trump supporters regardless of work history, qualifications or past performance is not a problem?

I, too, think that the previous administrations' policies on undocumented immigrants were not working and that the government could be run more efficiently.  But I cannot support the cruel treatment, insistence on loyalty to one person above all else including the actual nation or allowing a non-qualified billionaire access to financial records that must be kept secure from outside interference.  The end will NEVER justify the means for me if the means are immoral, illegal and corrupt.

Edited February 4 by Notabug

[annzeepark914]

Just now, Spartan Girl said:

Every day I’m reminded that we could have had him and Kamala. Every. Day.

She wasn't my choice, but damn...I sure voted for her because I wanted a sane, smart, diplomatic, wise & steady president. We didn't have the luxury of sitting at home, holding our noses, saying we just couldn't bring ourselves to vote for someone we didn't approve of. Now, to all who couldn't bring themselves to vote for KH? Thanks a heap for the dangerous hot mess that's upon us, only two weeks after inauguration day. This is on you 🤬

[Eri]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

It's so cute they thought their white skin would save them.

They're just telling on themselves. If they bothered to think beyond their prejudices instead of vilifying another acronym in this ridiculous culture war, they'd have realised that DEI initiatives overwhelmingly help women more than POC ever have.

Statistics show that white women have been the biggest beneficiaries of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives, with significant gains in leadership roles. According to recent data, while DEI programs aim to support marginalized groups, the benefits have been unevenly distributed, with white women experiencing the most upward mobility. 

Latest McKinsey study as of Sept 2024:  https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/diversity-and-inclusion/women-in-the-workplace

"For every 100 men promoted to manager, 89 White women were promoted in 2024."

Even Forbes has reported that white women hold nearly 19% of all C-suite positions, while racial and ethnic minority women only hold 4%. Overall, white women have benefited disproportionally from corporate DEI efforts.

Pew Research implies Republican (women) seem to think so too:

Oops! 🤷‍♀️

Edited February 4 by Eri

[Cementhead]

1 minute ago, peacheslatour said:

I didn't vote for this and I sure as fuck didn't vote for the South African Menace. Nobody did.

Oh, I know.  I was directing the quote to the "dozens of female Republican officials" that were being referred to in the comment.

[peacheslatour]

3 minutes ago, Cementhead said:

Oh, I know.  I was directing the quote to the "dozens of female Republican officials" that were being referred to in the comment.

I know, I'm just feeling grumpy today, lol.

[PRgal]

Was it here that someone posted that the current situation is like the part in The Lion King when Simba is banished from the Pridelands?  Or was it on another board/social media outlet?  You guys need Simba back, but it seems that he's too busy singing Hakuna Matata with Timon and Pumbaa :( 

[Cementhead]

1 minute ago, peacheslatour said:

I know, I'm just feeling grumpy today, lol.

As a Canadian who really resents having to start my day thinking & talking about Trump and ending my day thinking & talking about Trump, I get it.  I'm exhausted. 

[bluegirl147]

12 minutes ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

 

We are no longer picking between two views of which side is better to run the country. 

We are at the point of one side is seizing control illegally and the other side better respond and stop it before we are a dictatorship. 

 

Yes.  The two parties aren't just disagreeing on policy anymore. One party wants democracy and the other party does not.

13 minutes ago, kittykat said:

 

I'm all fairness I shouldn't be laughing over women losing their jobs for unfair reasons but we tried to warn them.

I don't feel sorry for them.  They would have been fine with people of color losing their jobs.

30 minutes ago, partofme said:

On a personal note it pisses me off because I am looking for work and it was already hard enough before Trump laid all these people off, some of whom are Democrats and don’t deserve this, it’s just more competition for me in an already crowded job market.  

And this is an unfortunate result of all the ridding of federal employees.  They are now part of the pool of people looking for work. 

 

10 minutes ago, Cementhead said:

As a Canadian who really resents having to start my day thinking & talking about Trump and ending my day thinking & talking about Trump, I get it.  I'm exhausted. 

As an American I hate it too.  It's only when Trump is president that every news alert is about him. Every morning I wake up and think what the fuck did he do now. I cannot not imagine what it's like for people of the groups he has targeted.

[Bookworm 1979]

5 hours ago, ginger90 said:

This thread was created in September.

Sorry, I didn't start reading it until after Trump won the election. I didn't realize it was here before then!

[tres bien]

Every time a reporter would interview a Trump supporter during the campaign it was the same thing. “I don’t like him but I like his policies”. Never did I see a reporter ask what policies 

So I’m guessing those people are fine with his policies and were expecting what’s he done for the past two weeks because nothing he’s done or has Musk doing affects them or their family, friends, neighbors or coworkers. They’re all somehow immune.

And taking over the treasury department’s payments or contemplating how to shut down the department of education for example will never impact your lives because you and yours don’t receive Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid have no children or know anyone who’s children attend public school or receive any benefits from the federal government 

 

 

Edited February 4 by tres bien

[peacheslatour]

5 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Every time a reporter would interview a Trump supporter during the campaign it was the same thing. “I don’t like him but I like his policies”. Never did I see a reporter ask what policies 

So I’m guessing those people are fine with his policies and were expecting what’s he done for the past two weeks because nothing he’s done or has Musk doing affects them or their family, friends, neighbors or coworkers. They’re all somehow immune.

And taking over the treasury department’s payments or contemplating how to shut down the department of education for example will never impact your lives because you and yours don’t receive Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid have no children or know anyone who’s children attend public school or receive any benefits from the federal government 

 

 

I don't know. I've been hearing an awful lot about people whose jobs in government have had their offers rescinded, about what is Uncle Jed gonna do without his Medicaid for his 'beetus and Latino people being suddenly terrified to send their children to school. True, they don't care about education though.

[bluegirl147]

5 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Every time a reporter would interview a Trump supporter during the campaign it was the same thing. “I don’t like him but I like his policies”. Never did I see a reporter ask what policies 

 

 

 

The only actual policy he had/'has is zero immigration.  And he wants to send the immigrants here away as well.

Everything else he talked about during the campaign was slogans and concepts of plans. So yeah it would have been nice if the media had asked Trump supporters to explain what policies they supported.

Vance was in East Palestine OH yesterday telling residents there needs to be more regulations so something like that never happens again.  Guess he wasn't on the call when Musk said all  regulations need to be dismantled.

[tessaray]

The first post is from Nov 5th. 

I'm not sure if it's still the case but back in the day mods sometimes created topics from older, existing posts (some created and banked for just that purpose). They did this because the forum software wouldn't let you move an existing post into a newer topic created after that post. 

It doesn't mean this topic wasn't just sitting around unused until it was needed. Just that there might be an alternative explanation for the dates. 🙂

Edited February 4 by tessaray

[Ohiopirate02]

Some good news, Proud Boys Lose Control of Their Name to a Black Church They Vandalized--

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/03/us/politics/proud-boys.html?unlocked_article_code=1.uU4.5Dsi.PhqXrt0MpKVt&smid=url-share

 

I hope the gift link works.

[Dimity]

12 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

What irritates me the most is that PT was all about inclusivity until this thread appeared..

There were whole threads that were terminated because people couldn't behave.  Aside from that there are other threads where  it would take a very strong minded poster to go against the stream - one example would be  The Pioneer Woman thread.  If you're a fan you learn fast that this is not the thread for you.

Edited February 4 by Dimity

[tearknee]

2 hours ago, kittykat said:

It's a straight up Bacchanal!  Gorge my fellow kitties, GORGE!

I'm all fairness I shouldn't be laughing over women losing their jobs for unfair reasons but we tried to warn them.

Sisterhood solidarity was always a lie anyway.

 

[peacheslatour]

8 minutes ago, Dimity said:

There were whole threads that were terminated because people couldn't behave.  Aside from that there are other threads where  it would take a very strong minded poster to go against the stream - one example would be  The Pioneer Woman thread.  If you're a fan you learn fast that this is not the thread for you.

I was in those Pioneer Woman threads when a bunch of us almost got the ban hammer. I avoid that topic these days.

[PRgal]

Can someone tell me what happened on the Pioneer Woman thread?  I assume it was more than “Ree’s food sucks!” 

[bluegirl147]

11 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I am not a fan of soap operas or reality TV so I don't read those threads.  And I would never presume to go into one of them and start talking about how I don't like soap operas or reality TV!  

The internet has places for everyone to go and say what they like and don't like. There really isn't any reason to post in places devoted to things you don't like.  I know trolls are a thing but life is too short to do that.

[Anela]

13 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Why did you put "won" in quotes? He won fair & square...the same way Biden won in 2020.

Not looking to start WW3, but I have a bone to pick about the thread in general (and CM is well aware). I don't think anyone begrudges "the feels", but by the same token, the other side has feelings too. No, they're not the same feelings, but they are still feelings nonetheless. 

What irritates me the most is that PT was all about inclusivity until this thread appeared...essentially ignoring the right. IOW, how can PT and the majority on this thread be all inclusive for everything and everyone except those that have a different POV. We're not all monsters or terrible people who are misinformed. We simple see things in a different way. 

And while it's definitely not the left way, we still live in a world of differing opinions where we should be able to express our feelings. And no, I'm not going to be the lone ranger to create a separate thread as previously suggested because it's not the same as being sanctioned by PT. Because if PT truly cared about total inclusivity, it would have already existed. Obvious oversight.

Just remember, not all of us agree with ALL of Trump's policies. A simple analogy would be a restaurant I've always frequented. I don't have to enjoy everything on the menu in order to like the atmosphere. 

But those of you paying attention, knew what was on the menu this time.  I’m not yelling at you, but you saw what he campaigned on.  As @Yeah No said, it would be good to hear what trump supporters don’t like about him, or what he’s doing.  All I ever see, outside of those who are being affected by his actions themselves, are them worshipping a king, and laughing at liberals.  

About this place, and inclusivity: the entire Royals forum was deleted, because of things I only learned about a year ago.   I rarely read the threads, and I’ve missed out on a lot in other forums, because I’m not into reality TV. 

I couldn’t sleep last night, and I’m not up yet, because the depression has really set in again.  You have your feelings about everything, too, but leaving laughing responses to serious comments, isn’t kind, either.  Not that I care about them being on my own posts.  But this thread has done really well, in comparison to others mentioned.  

Edited February 4 by Anela

[kittykat]

26 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

I watch a lot of shows but I rarely post in their threads because as you said group think is real and you quickly realize if you are part of that particular think.

On the other hand with this thread I have found my people and it's been a pleasure to post with you guys.

For sure.  I still remember the days of TWoP when we'd all spar for 30 pages on one episode of The Amazing Race.  Good times.

I pick and choose my shows and mostly lurk over posting. Part of it is that I don't always watch episodes once aired so once I have my thoughts the conversation is mostly over.

I do agree that this thread should be welcoming to all views.  I'll hear your sentiments if you hear mine.  I've learned so much from reading about everyone's experiences and even expanded my feelings or thought of something a different way so thank you all for that. 

[Anela]

11 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

 

Speaking for myself, I don't "follow him blindly". He's doing exactly what he promised to do such as closing the border for the undocumented...which is one of the big reasons he won. As you know, at first I did discuss my opinions rationally, and you saw what the reaction was. We talked about this privately a couple of times. Meanwhile, I took a breather to attend to family issues, and maybe it was a good thing because things appear to be down to a low roar. 

And we were polite to you, at the beginning of the thread.  You went on to imply something about Kamala, which was unnecessary.  We’ve still been polite, it just might not feel that way when people are disagreeing with you.  
 

7 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

That is the great thing about the internet.  You can always find a place that aligns with what you believe.

Give him time.  Between Musk and Zuckerberg he is super friendly with the two people who control a massive amount of social media. Not to mention Bezos owning the Washington Post.

Elon apparently had a Reddit sub shut down. White people twitter, after finding “the right” posts to report.  Whatever they were.  

7 hours ago, Edina said:

God I hope yesterday was a turning point for the practically brain dead democrats 

Senator Schatz has put a blanket hold on all state department nominees and Schumer and Jeffries are working on legislation to stop the unlawful meddling in the treasury department’s payment system (lotta good that’ll do since they no have no majority in either house)

I think it’s more effective for the dems to be the party of no. The house republicans will be unable to pass any legislation (if they even want to) including a budget next month without the dems.  Let they squirm and make their voters happy

I returned on Sunday after two weeks out of the country. I went back and read some of the posts here. There was one about people feeling despondent. If anything please don’t. That’s what MAGA’s counting on. 
I’m angry to say the least. The democrats better get their shit together and come up with a plan because it’s going to pain me not to vote in 2026 but I have to have something to vote for. I’m sick of Pelosi and Schumer running the party because they haven’t been helpful or forward thinking (Schumer may have been the worst democratic majority leader ever)

And dear democrats: stop asking me for money. I’ve blocked every text message and I’m not sending any candidate one penny ever again. Learn how to play by the MAGA rules or risk being out in the cold for a very long time 

I’m with you.  I’m also still having to ask them to stop asking for money that I don’t have.  I can think of only four or five democrats who are speaking up, right now. 

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

The only actual policy he had/'has is zero immigration.  And he wants to send the immigrants here away as well.

Everything else he talked about during the campaign was slogans and concepts of plans. So yeah it would have been nice if the media had asked Trump supporters to explain what policies they supported.

Vance was in East Palestine OH yesterday telling residents there needs to be more regulations so something like that never happens again.  Guess he wasn't on the call when Musk said all  regulations need to be dismantled.

I saw a woman on TikTok live, from East Palestine, talking in glowing terms about trump and Vance, and how Biden didn’t help them.  DeWine’s refused his help! It drives me crazy that they ignore that fact. Our Republican governor refused his help. And something trump signed, apparently helped make that accident happen. It was his deregulating everything he could before, but I don’t have a link handy. That accident happened a couple of counties over from me.  

He was also vague on his plans, because Project 2025 was the plan, and he was distancing himself from it, because they knew how unpopular those plans would be.  

54 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

There are thousands of threads on here that I will never read because I know I am not the audience for those threads. I personally believe it is the height of arrogance to expect each and every thread one could possibly read be tailor-made for them. Groupthink is a thing online, and when I fall outside of the group I choose to move on instead of attempting to change the tone of the thread. There's also going to be more than one corner of the internet where the posters there are more inline with your personal thinking. Why not just go there instead of forcing people to change?

I’ve only done that on a forum that I’m considered to be an OG member of. When the Covid conspiracies were flying.  Anyone who was Covid-cautious, would be jumped on for talking about the reality of the situation, saying anything against the conspiracy talk, even though it wasn’t a forum for conspiracies.  So, I’d jump in to defend someone else, or post my own thoughts, because I didn’t think they should be able to just take over.  They did, because the site owner is MAGA. 

Edited February 4 by Anela

[Avaleigh]

I don't really see how it would help to have a right leaning thread here unless the idea would be for it to only be for comments that support right wing ideology and even then, I wouldn't be in favor of it because I think that any poster here has the right to post in any thread on any forum.

So at the end of the day people would still be permitted to respond if they, say, want to add proper context to a claim they know is inaccurate, want to post a link that goes against an argument being made, or just want to weigh in on misinformation. It wouldn't be inclusive to ban left wing posters from a particular thread, just as it wouldn't be inclusive to ban right wing posters here who want to add to the conversation. 

Ultimately, people are going to say what they have to say whether it's in this thread or another. The stakes are too high for people to not comment when their lives are being so disrupted, and that's putting it mildly. There are real worries and concerns that people have particularly regarding healthcare. 

26 minutes ago, Anela said:

About this place, and inclusivity: the entire Royals forum was deleted, because of things I only learned about a year ago.

There are several steps that could have been taken rather than deleting the entire Royals forum. Just one example of many would be to have permanently locked the thread that certain posters found problematic. 

As far as the Royals forum, that was definitely a case of punishing the majority because of the views of a minority of posters who felt that a certain thread should be tailor made for them. There were several posters who could have moved on and chose not to even though it was clear that they were in a thread that was making them unhappy. There were several posters who were out of line on both sides of the argument there, but they were absolutely the minority. Most people who posted there posted respectfully, as they do here. 

[Dimity]

56 minutes ago, Anela said:

 All I ever see, outside of those who are being affected by his actions themselves, are them worshipping a king, and laughing at liberals.  

  I've noticed that FB has exploded the last few days with posts that are misogynist and downright hateful.  Now, of course it was always there but the floodgates have opened and it's getting worse.

My sister makes the mistake (IMO) of trying to interact in some of these posts.  One was a meme saying "All these liberals whining about the price of eggs not changing in 11 days when they didn't say anything for 4 years".  The stupid was so strong with that that she couldn't leave it alone.  Her pointing out that "liberals" were never the ones expected the grocery prices to magically go back to 1985 when Trump got elected was not well received.  To say the least.

Edited February 4 by Dimity

[Anela]

21 minutes ago, Avaleigh said:

I don't really see how it would help to have a right leaning thread here unless the idea would be for it to only be for comments that support right wing ideology and even then, I wouldn't be in favor of it because I think that any poster here has the right to post in any thread on any forum.

So at the end of the day people would still be permitted to respond if they, say, want to add proper context to a claim they know is inaccurate, want to post a link that goes against an argument being made, or just want to weigh in on misinformation. It wouldn't be inclusive to ban left wing posters from a particular thread, just as it wouldn't be inclusive to ban right wing posters here who want to add to the conversation. 

Ultimately, people are going to say what they have to say whether it's in this thread or another. The stakes are too high for people to not comment when their lives are being so disrupted, and that's putting it mildly. There are real worries and concerns that people have particularly regarding healthcare. 

There are several steps that could have been taken rather than deleting the entire Royals forum. Just one example of many would be to have permanently locked the thread that certain posters found problematic. 

As far as the Royals forum, that was definitely a case of punishing the majority because of the views of a minority of posters who felt that a certain thread should be tailor made for them. There were several posters who could have moved on and chose not to even though it was clear that they were in a thread that was making them unhappy. There were several posters who were out of line on both sides of the argument there, but they were absolutely the minority. Most people who posted there posted respectfully, as they do here. 

I’m just saying, we’re lucky to have this thread at all. 
I’d like to know if the trump supporters are fine with what Elon is doing.  Or with trump saying he won’t feel responsible if someone harms fauci, now that he’s removed his security.  

14 minutes ago, Dimity said:

  I've noticed that FB has exploded the last few days with posts that are misogynist and downright hateful.  Now, of course it was always there but the floodgates have opened and it's getting worse.

My sister makes the mistake (IMO) of trying to interact in some of these posts.  One was a meme saying "All these liberals whining about the price of eggs not changing in 11 days when they didn't say anything for 4 years".  The stupid was so strong with that that she couldn't leave it alone.  Her pointing out that "liberals" were never the ones expected the grocery prices to magically go back to 1985 when Trump got elected was not well received.  To say the least.

Some of my anger has gone to countering MAGA again. I can at least respond with the truth, to the vile lies that are pushed.  

[fastiller]

😁😁😁

[Dimity]

41 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Here is but one of the many lies Trump told only this week. From Mediaite, 2/4/2025-

Notably, the White House made similar claims last week regarding foreign aid spending that were quickly debunked. The White House repeated a claim, sourced from Musk, that the U.S. was going to spend $50 million on condoms to send to Gaza, which Trump again repeated on Monday, but doubled to $100 million while employing the creative phrase, “condoms to Hamas.”

 

So, are the posters who tell us we're not being welcoming enough to Trump supporters, care to defend this one?

I'd appreciate hearing some Trump supporters who are Christian, and think he is too, to explain how any of this isn't true:

 

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[peacheslatour]

8 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I'd appreciate hearing some Trump supporters who are Christian, and think he is too, to explain how any of this isn't true:

 

Yeah right, I distinctly remember Jesus saying "And lo, we saw they were hungry and we said fuck those guys."

[bluegirl147]

8 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

What? You mean the party that was willing to treat people of different races like shit wound up also treating women like shit? I'm shocked, I tell you, just shocked!

Welcome to reality, people. 

Lord, please, can they? And preferably as soon as humanly possible at that? 

It's nice of them to admit they are racist.  And dumb.  They didn't realize DEI included white women. 

[Annber03]

40 minutes ago, fastiller said:

😁😁😁

The snort of laughter I let out at this...XD. 

[Ohiopirate02]

37 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

That poor leopard!

Here's hoping Denmark rethinks that tariff on Ozempic at least for the leopards.

[meep.meep]

1 hour ago, fastiller said:

😁😁😁

To quote Wilt Chamberlain - "Everybody pulls for David, nobody roots for Goliath"

[tearknee]

social media and web-based forums:

 

 

[Dimity]

39 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

It's nice of them to admit they are racist.  And dumb.  They didn't realize DEI included white women. 

They've also been deluding themselves if they think they value women for anything more than breeding stock.  They've been pretty upfront about that for years.