Chit-Chat: The Feels

[Bookworm 1979]

12 hours ago, isalicat said:

as I said, he is a geek and often spontaneously geeks out.

My husband is a geek, and I know many geeks (some days I am a geek) and we would never, ever make that gesture. Stop making excuses for him.

Edited 15 hours ago by Bookworm 1979
Fix a typo

[Spartan Girl]

1 hour ago, Yeah No said:

That is truly scary. It's like we have Sheldon Cooper behind Trump's "throne". And even Sheldon had more of a conscience.

Let’s not insult Sheldon that way. Whatever his faults, he was a man of science. He would never spread misinformation to undermine science and medical facts. Plus, he never self-diagnosed himself as autistic.

[CheshireCat]

I've meant to add about Musk that I find it appaling that some people in his orbit try to explain it with his autism. 

I understand if they want to argue that it wasn't a Nazi salute. (Not understand understand it, just that it's their right to do that). I don't know why he would turn around, look at the audience and only then make the exact same gesture again because of what he was saying when he didn't address the people who were behind him at any other point in the speech. But that's a matter of a difference in opinion. 

Blaming it on a disability, though, is feeding, breeding and encouraging biases as a result and I find it wrong on so many levels. 

Given that Trump mocked a disabled reporter back in 2015 or 2016 and is said to have mused if the disabled child of a family member may be better off dead, I shouldn't be surprised that people in his orbit would go that far. Still, it's just so unscrupulous and all for their own, personal gain. 

I have a friend who has Asperger's and I feel like apologizing to her.  

[chitowngirl]

Gas prices are going up earlier than usual; the war in Ukraine, which he was supposed to end in one day, is still going on…winning!

[Annber03]

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

For those who didn't hear the audio, Musk was saying from my heart (touching his heart) to your heart (gesturing towards the audience on both sides, hence the double gesture). 

I heard it, and saw the clip in full on TV last night. 

It was a freaking Nazi salute. Your party is inflitrated by white suprmeacists and neo-Nazis. This is a fact. They support Trump in droves.

He knew exactly what he was doing and who he was talking to. Stop BS-ing this. 

[Dimity]

23 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

I heard it, and saw the clip in full on TV last night. 

It was a freaking Nazi salute. Your party is inflitrated by white suprmeacists and neo-Nazis. This is a fact. They support Trump in droves.

He knew exactly what he was doing and who he was talking to. Stop BS-ing this. 

Not even three days in and they are already defending Nazi salutes. Some denying it others glorying in it. He hasn't whipped inflation or ended the war in Ukraine - day one promises - but he has reminded us of what it was like four years ago. Something awful every single day.

Edited 13 hours ago by Dimity

[bluegirl147]

It's funny to me that the right is telling us to get over the "gesture" Musk made when the right lost their minds over the Obama's giving each other "terrorist" fist bumps. 

1 hour ago, CheshireCat said:

I have a friend who has Asperger's and I feel like apologizing to her

I have a nephew who is autistic.  Last time I checked he isn't a fascist or Nazi. 

 

[Dimity]

4 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

It's funny to me that the right is telling us to get over the "gesture" Musk made when the right lost their minds over the Obama's giving each other "terrorist" fist bumps. 

I have a nephew who is autistic.  Last time I checked he isn't a fascist or Nazi. 

 

Reminds me of how Roseanne claimed ambien made her racist.

[Yeah No]

2 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

Let’s not insult Sheldon that way. Whatever his faults, he was a man of science. He would never spread misinformation to undermine science and medical facts. Plus, he never self-diagnosed himself as autistic.

Don't get me wrong, I love Sheldon, and don't mean to insult him, but his social cluelessness and other issues went beyond that to the devious and diabolical. He didn't understand racial or women's issues either and repeatedly insulted them in a racist and sexist manner. His purely logical way of approaching things could be cold and completely dismissive of social convention and people's feelings. BUT, the thing that made him somewhat loveable and tolerable is that if he was corrected by others on these things he usually deferred to their wisdom. Usually is the operative word there. There were times he did not. And he did make some progress in 12 seasons on the show. But Sheldon in Elon's current position would be almost as scary. He had friends, though, that would correct him and rein him in. But his ego wasn't as big as Elon's. Elon's ego is so big that's not the case.

Oh, and Sheldon didn't think he needed to be diagnosed with anything. He always said "his mother had him tested" and there was nothing wrong with him, lol.

[PRgal]

@Yeah No Not being "officially diagnosed" wouldn't have been abnormal for Sheldon's generation either.  Funny how Sheldon would "defer to wisdom" as you said rather than be deeply offended that you're correct.  Or be triggered to get angry.  Because I've been the latter.  Except I don't get violent.  I think some of it, for me, comes from immigrant (grand)parents always telling me that I'm "wrong" in some way, shape or form.  And yes, it's mostly my grandmother.  And my dad thinks I'm offensive when I said (much later in life, after she had passed) that she kind of freaked me out.  It went beyond being afraid of her lecturing me for buying tampons instead of pads.  My mom never knew about the tampon situation.   Fake news/facts and offensive things my Poh Poh said included "Canadian (read: White) girls are bad because they have boyfriends and don't study!  Be a good Chinese girl and don't date until university!" and "Bermuda has the highest HIV+/AIDS rate in the world" and "don't go swimming or you'll get AIDS!"  (this was back in the 80s when HIV was a death sentence).  

[Yeah No]

1 hour ago, Annber03 said:

I heard it, and saw the clip in full on TV last night. 

It was a freaking Nazi salute. Your party is inflitrated by white suprmeacists and neo-Nazis. This is a fact. They support Trump in droves.

He knew exactly what he was doing and who he was talking to. Stop BS-ing this. 

Trump's followers conveniently tune out stuff like this and act like it's not Trump's fault if racists like Neo Nazi's follow him. He is a master of putting out vague statements that leave people free to interpret in any way they like. They will conveniently latch on to what they want to hear, interpret it to suit their own particular grievances and tune out the rest. He has contradicted himself many times, claiming to want to bring unity to our divisions and honor MLK's legacy, but then 5 minutes later he's saying and doing things that directly contradict those promises. So his followers can hear what they want to hear and claim he's all about what they want and everyone else is just wrong about him. And he does this on purpose, too. He has his followers wrapped around his finger and they can't even see it. And he will never come out to disassociate himself from the white supremacists and Neo Nazis that love him, but his followers don't even think about that. A lot of them still want to believe he doesn't condone them despite all evidence to the contrary. And he won't do anything to make them think otherwise.

[Mollywolly555]

13 hours ago, Dimity said:

I have limited my reading to light women's fiction.  Mainly relatively lesser known British women authors from the mid 20th century.  Perhaps not Great Literature but extremely well written and the good people are always rewarded and the bad guys get their comeuppance.  Definite  comfort food reading right now!

Lively? Pym? Stevie Smith? 

I like them too. Who do you read?

[Yeah No]

My state's attorney general, William Tong, is my hero of the day for speaking out on Trump's attack on children of immigrants and moving to sue him for blocking birthright citizenship. Both he and my husband's boss are born in the U.S. to immigrant parents so this issue is personal for them:

https://portal.ct.gov/ag/press-releases/2025-press-releases/attorney-general-tong-sues-to-block-unconstitutional-attack-on-birthright-citizenship

[Dimity]

36 minutes ago, Mollywolly555 said:

I like them too. Who do you read?

I will send you a PM 🙂.

[Lugal]

5 hours ago, Yeah No said:

That is truly scary. It's like we have Sheldon Cooper behind Trump's "throne". And even Sheldon had more of a conscience.

And that's not even getting into the ketamine.

3 hours ago, CheshireCat said:

I've meant to add about Musk that I find it appaling that some people in his orbit try to explain it with his autism.

I've heard some autistic people doubt that Musk even is autistic. Like I said, I recognized the validity of self-diagnosis, but the richest man in the world could afford to go to a professional (after all he doesn't seem to have a problem getting a prescription for ketamine).  Hell, he could afford to pay off a professional.

I think he's more likely to be diagnosed as a psychopath.  Just perusing wikipedia tells me symptoms of psychopathy include impaired empathy and remorse, superficial charm, immunity to stress and narcissism.

I think he plays up autism because that brings to mind eccentric geniuses like Isaac Newton or Nikola Tesla, whereas psychopath conjures images of Ted Bundy and Patrick Bateman.

[Dimity]

It was brought to my attention that Prince Harry has prevailed in his lawsuit against the Murdoch group in the UK.  I bring this up here because one of the people named and shamed (and possibly now facing criminal charges) is Will Harris the new CEO of the Washington Post - brought on board by a Trump supporter, Bezos.  Anyone who thinks the US isn't facing the same issues with the mainstream news that has been happening for years in the UK this is your wake up call.

[peacheslatour]

1 hour ago, Yeah No said:

Trump's followers conveniently tune out stuff like this and act like it's not Trump's fault if racists like Neo Nazi's follow him. He is a master of putting out vague statements that leave people free to interpret in any way they like. They will conveniently latch on to what they want to hear, interpret it to suit their own particular grievances and tune out the rest. He has contradicted himself many times, claiming to want to bring unity to our divisions and honor MLK's legacy, but then 5 minutes later he's saying and doing things that directly contradict those promises. So his followers can hear what they want to hear and claim he's all about what they want and everyone else is just wrong about him. And he does this on purpose, too. He has his followers wrapped around his finger and they can't even see it. And he will never come out to disassociate himself from the white supremacists and Neo Nazis that love him, but his followers don't even think about that. A lot of them still want to believe he doesn't condone them despite all evidence to the contrary. And he won't do anything to make them think otherwise.

What strikes me about this is that he considers it nothing more than entertainment, a routine like a standup comedian, not serious religious instruction or a plea for mercy (regardless of one's views about religion, this was an admirable stance to take). Everything exists to please and entertain him.

[Dimity]

Just now, peacheslatour said:

Everything exists to please and entertain him.

He was  brought up to believe the world revolves around him and nothing that has happened in the last 8 years has helped with that.

[bluegirl147]

19 minutes ago, Lugal said:

I think he's more likely to be diagnosed as a psychopath.

And some people think Trump is a sociopath.  That is one scary duo.

Money makes people excuse a lot of bad things.  If Trump or Musk had grown up poor and stayed poor with the same personalities they have now what are the odds they wouldn't have made it to 40 or ended up in jail?

2 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Everything exists to please and entertain him.

Like how Royal courts had a court jester to entertain them.  Except in this case Trump acts like the court jester.

2 minutes ago, Dimity said:

He was  brought up to believe the world revolves around him and nothing that has happened in the last 8 years has helped with that.

As awful a human being Trump is we also have to blame everyone that enabled him from the time he was a kid. He is spoiled brat who grew up to be a spoiled bratty adult.

[Lantern7]

25 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Everything exists to please and entertain him.

And I’d bet money that he thinks the world ceases to exist when he goes to sleep.

[Dimity]

1 hour ago, Yeah No said:

He is a master of putting out vague statements that leave people free to interpret in any way they like. They will conveniently latch on to what they want to hear, interpret it to suit their own particular grievances and tune out the rest.

 

[ProudMary]

6 hours ago, Yeah No said:

You know those executive orders Trump just signed? Those were to undo a lot of stuff Biden did.

For all who are interested, here is the Executive Order issued on Monday evening by the Trump White House that chronologically itemizes all of the EOs issued by President Biden during his term in office that DJT wants reversed. I actually thank them for doing it this way as it gives us an easy way to reference all that was accomplished by the Biden Administration in one organized list.

 

INITIAL RESCISSIONS OF HARMFUL EXECUTIVE ORDERS AND ACTIONS

EXECUTIVE ORDER

January 20, 2025

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/initial-rescissions-of-harmful-executive-orders-and-actions/

4 hours ago, Dimity said:

So Trump supporters feeling the pride?  For me all I can think is 4 years of this man baby whimpering and whining whenever anyone dares to disagree with him. 

We can only hope that it remains man baby whimpering and whining. I fear that the retribution directed at those who have the courage to speak truth to power as Bishop Budde did on Tuesday will become much more serious. 

[bluegirl147]

2 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

And I’d bet money that he thinks the world ceases to exist when he goes to sleep.

I wonder if  his staff lackeys tell him two more sleeps and you get to do whatever. Or how he thought if after Biden was sworn in Trump thought if he could prove election interference that magically he would be president again.  I honestly don't think his intelligence level has ever went beyond 6-7 years old.  He has the temperament of a child so why not the intelligence level of one.

[Cementhead]

17 hours ago, atomic said:

Just a couple geeks showing their love

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

― George Orwell, 1984

[Fool to cry]

That "Silk Road" drug trafficking dude is getting pardoned. I actually saw him get arrested in 2015! I was at the Glen Park branch of the library in San Francisco reading and suddenly the police had this guy in those plastic wrist ties behind his back and quietly walking him out. I didn't know what it was all about until I was home later.

Edited 10 hours ago by Fool to cry

[Avaleigh]

4 hours ago, CheshireCat said:

Blaming it on a disability, though, is feeding, breeding and encouraging biases as a result and I find it wrong on so many levels. 

As a parent of a neurodivergent child, I agree with you. It's frustrating that autism is being used as an excuse for Elon making the gesture. 

As for Elon's intent, I read his response to the criticism: "Frankly, they need better dirty tricks. The 'everyone is Hitler' attack is sooo tired."

If he genuinely feels that people are misunderstanding the gesture, he could have simply said that people are wrong and that wasn't his intention at all. Instead he's leaving wiggle room for people to interpret it however they like. Mainly, he's making sure to not alienate the people who had a positive reaction to that dogwhistle. 

On the one hand Elon is supposedly a "genius", and on the other hand he doesn't have enough common sense to understand how that gesture might be interpreted by the masses. It's not like this just upset a handful of American liberals. People all around the world saw that salute and were appalled. 

When white nationalists all over the country, and abroad, are cheering this sort of gesture, it's pretty apparent tobme that people aren't just overreacting or misreading the situation. 

IMO he knows perfectly well what he was doing. 

I'm just smh that after one day we're already debating whether or not somebody on Team Trump made a nazi salute. For my fellow TCM fans, fasten your seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy term!

[bluegirl147]

22 minutes ago, Fool to cry said:

That "Silk Road" drug trafficking dude is getting pardoned. I actually saw him get arrested in 2015! I was at the Glen Park branch of the library in San Francisco reading and suddenly the police had this guy in those plastic wrist ties behind his back and quietly walking him out. I didn't know what it was all about until I was home later.

I had never heard of this guy till I read about his pardon this morning. Trump only pardoning the very best criminals.

Speaking of pardons, the QAnon Shaman who we all remember from the insurrection upon learning he received a pardon said and I quote 

“THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP!!! NOW I AM GONNA BUY SOME MOTHA FU*KIN GUNS!!! I LOVE THIS COUNTRY!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!”

As I said Trump pardoning only the best.

[EtheltoTillie]

2 hours ago, Dimity said:

I will send you a PM 🙂.

Hey can you post your book choices over on the books thread called "What are you reading"?  I like to follow that for ideas, but many people post things I'm not interested in, such as fantasy.  I like the British women authors too.

Edited 9 hours ago by EtheltoTillie

[peacheslatour]

[atomic]

Elon:

- Agreed with a post claiming Jewish communities promote "dialectical hatred" against white people 
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/15/media/elon-musk-antisemitism-white-people/index.html

- Has promoted Great Replacement Theory
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/elon-musk-great-replacement-conspiracy-theory-1234941337/

- Reinstated the Twitter accounts of prominent neo-Nazis who perpetuate white supremacist ideology
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/x-twitter-elon-musk-nazi-extremist-white-nationalist-accounts-rcna145020

- Shown support for Germany's far-right AfD party whose leaders whose leaders engage in antisemitic rhetoric
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/alternative-germany-afd-party-what-you-need-know

But yes, please tell us more how that poor geek deserves the benefit of the doubt and would never, ever do such a thing. 

[Dimity]

[Anela]

11 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Like I give a shit about sympathy. This isn't a funeral.

Biden was just a puppet for the party. And ironically, the way he came in is the way he went out.

He wasn’t a puppet.  If he was, trump wouldn’t have had to undo things like the law that helped people pay for medications.  Are you proud of that one? 

11 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

You are correct. Only CNN and other fake news is calling it a Nazi salute. It was not. Fake news broadcast the gesture without the audio. If they had balls, they would include the audio. For those who didn't hear the audio, Musk was saying from my heart (touching his heart) to your heart (gesturing towards the audience on both sides, hence the double gesture). 

You have to remember that Musk is VERY animated (jumping up & down on stage, etc. etc.), making any excited gesture awkward.

You beat me to it...that's exactly what I just posted. Only the conspiracy theorists at CNN are making a federal case out of a simple gesture. And MANY of them are playing the video ad nauseum WITHOUT the audio. This is how fake news and lies gets spread across the country.

But have you heard the AUDIO?!?

It’s only fake news, when it isn’t complimentary.  Of course.  It’s funny how the media shut up about the age of both candidates, once Biden stepped aside, and nominated our VP.  

10 hours ago, Ceindreadh said:

Trump demands apology from 'nasty' Washington Bishop after plea for him to have 'mercy'

https://www.thejournal.ie/washington-bishop-urges-trump-to-have-mercy-6600600-Jan2025/
 

 

what an absolute snowflake. 

I saw that, and expected it.

22 minutes ago, atomic said:

Elon:

- Agreed with a post claiming Jewish communities promote "dialectical hatred" against white people 
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/15/media/elon-musk-antisemitism-white-people/index.html

- Has promoted Great Replacement Theory
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/elon-musk-great-replacement-conspiracy-theory-1234941337/

- Reinstated the Twitter accounts of prominent neo-Nazis who perpetuate white supremacist ideology
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/x-twitter-elon-musk-nazi-extremist-white-nationalist-accounts-rcna145020

- Shown support for Germany's far-right AfD party whose leaders whose leaders engage in antisemitic rhetoric
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/alternative-germany-afd-party-what-you-need-know

But yes, please tell us more how that poor geek deserves the benefit of the doubt and would never, ever do such a thing. 

I was talking about all of this, on another site, when he bought twitter, and let Nazis and pedophiles (apparently?) back on the site.  I just got hate, and was told that he was a free speech absolutist.  It’s good under the first amendment, even though they wanted protesters to be arrested, and injured, when they didn’t like their reasons for protesting.  

Edited 9 hours ago by Anela

[peacheslatour]

3 minutes ago, Anela said:

He wasn’t a puppet.  If he was, trump wouldn’t have had to undo things like the law that helped people pay for medications.  Are you proud of that one? 

It’s only fake news, when it isn’t complimentary.  Of course.  It’s funny how the media shut up about the age of both candidates, once Biden stepped aside, and nominated our VP.  

I saw that, and expected it.

I was talking about all of this, on another site, when he bought twitter, and let Nazis and pedophiles (apparently?) back on the site.  I just got hate, and was told that he was a free speech absolutist.  It’s good under the first amendment, even though they wanted protester# to be arrested, and injured, when they didn’t like their reasons for protesting.  

A free speech absolutist? Let me laugh harder. He's a vile authoritarian and former Afrikaner whose parents were kicked out of Canada for being Nazis.

[Dimity]

11 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Like I give a shit about sympathy.

This really could be the motto of the Republican party right now. 

[bluegirl147]

5 minutes ago, Anela said:

I saw that, and expected it.

He referred to her as a "so called Bishop".  As if she really isn't one.  So I guess we can call him a "so called human being".

He also said "She brought her church into the World of politics in a very ungracious way."  Republicans have been bringing politics into churches for a very long time so I don't see the problem.

This is what she said:

“I ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country who are scared. There are gay, lesbian, transgender children, Democratic, Republican, independent families — some who fear for their lives,”

"The people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings, who labor in poultry farms and meatpacking plants, who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the night shifts in hospitals — they may not be citizens or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals,”

And he called her nasty.  I can't wait to see all his Christian followers speak out in support of her.  Oh wait, they don't worship the same God she does.  They worship Trump.

3 minutes ago, Dimity said:

This really could be the motto of the Republican party right now. 

You meant it isn't?

[Kemper]

17 hours ago, Dimity said:

I have limited my reading to light women's fiction.  Mainly relatively lesser known British women authors from the mid 20th century.  Perhaps not Great Literature but extremely well written and the good people are always rewarded and the bad guys get their comeuppance.  Definite  comfort food reading right now!

That’s perfect! My comfort food of choice is mysteries…both the cozy and dark. In large print, of course. 🥰

[Anela]

[Dimity]

2 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Hey can you post your book choices over on the books thread called "What are you reading"?  I like to follow that for ideas, but many people post things I'm not interested in, such as fantasy.  I like the British women authors too.

Comfort Food Books Thread

I think we're all  going to need this to get through the next four years.

[peacheslatour]

BTW, 3 student s were just shot and killed at Antioch high school in Tenn.

[Dimity]

28 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

BTW, 3 student s were just shot and killed at Antioch high school in Tenn.

I'm sure Trump in his role as comforter to the nation will let you all know that it's time to move on after the obligatory 10  second pause for thoughts and prayers.

[Turquoise]

28 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

BTW, 3 student s were just shot and killed at Antioch high school in Tenn.

When I lived in Nashville, I was only a few miles from that school. It's only a smidge over a mile from the Waffle House that was shot up in 2018. I also realize after 7 years in that state it will not make one bit of difference to the "Mah Rights!" crowd. Really do not miss living there.

[Spartan Girl]

3 hours ago, atomic said:

Elon:

- Agreed with a post claiming Jewish communities promote "dialectical hatred" against white people 
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/15/media/elon-musk-antisemitism-white-people/index.html

- Has promoted Great Replacement Theory
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/elon-musk-great-replacement-conspiracy-theory-1234941337/

- Reinstated the Twitter accounts of prominent neo-Nazis who perpetuate white supremacist ideology
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/x-twitter-elon-musk-nazi-extremist-white-nationalist-accounts-rcna145020

- Shown support for Germany's far-right AfD party whose leaders whose leaders engage in antisemitic rhetoric
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/alternative-germany-afd-party-what-you-need-know

But yes, please tell us more how that poor geek deserves the benefit of the doubt and would never, ever do such a thing. 

As the saying goes, if it looks like a duck, walk like a duck, and quacks like a duck…

And before anyone can say “listen to the audio” just because he didn’t say the word “Heil” doesn’t make it any less of a Nazi salute.

It also pisses me off that people are writing this off as “geek” behavior. Because Zuckerberg and Musk are of the same ilk, this clip of The Social Network is never more relevant:

 

[Dimity]

3 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

And before anyone can say “listen to the audio” just because he didn’t say the word “Heil” doesn’t make it any less of a Nazi salute.

Let's face it even if he'd said "Heil" the apologists would be insisting he said "hello" or "hayley" (as you do) while the white supremacist would be dancing in the streets.

[peacheslatour]

10 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

Don’t you mean “goose”? They are known for their unique stepping after all.

You know, if any of those people learned a lesson about how far is too far in expressing disgust, I might be on board with the pardons. But they don’t, so I’m not.

That asshole. My nickname for him: “Lothar of the Hill People.” I’m sure a few of you get the reference.

"Women, you cannot live with them yet you cannot club them."

[partofme]

Some crazy shit:

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/21/health/hhs-cdc-fda-trump-pause-communication/index.html
 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-executive-order-discrimination-lbj_n_67914b7ce4b0835f2b834b9c

Its going to be a long four years   I hope we still have a democracy when it’s done.

 

[ProudMary]

Go ahead, tell me it isn't all about racism and misogyny.

According to the Axios article I'm linking, this particular sixty year old Executive Order has frequently been referenced to to move women's rights forward in addition to civil rights for POC.

Unless, I'm missing the part where this will bring down the price of eggs. 🥚 

Trump rolls back bedrock civil rights measure in sweeping anti-DEI push

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/22/trump-dei-lbj-rollback

Trump's order revokes one that President Johnson signed on September 24, 1965, more than two years after the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. gave his "I Have A Dream" speech at the Lincoln Memorial.

LBJ's order gave the Secretary of Labor the authority to ensure equal opportunity for people of color and women in federal contractors' recruitment, hiring, training and other employment practices.

It required federal contractors to refrain from employment discrimination and take affirmative action to ensure equal opportunity "based on race, color, religion, and national origin."

[Bastet]

Just now, ProudMary said:

Go ahead, tell me it isn't all about racism and misogyny.

I could make up a lie, but I'm not right wing media, so, yeah -- this is pure bigotry.  Revoking the 1965 order and instead requiring federal hiring, promotions, and performance reviews to "reward individual initiative" rather than "DEI-related factors" is their bullshit that any woman or man who's a POC only got their job/promotion to fill a quota, they're not actually qualified, and some poor white dude got passed over.  Because won't someone please think of the white men?

All US govt DEI staff are on immediate paid leave, and the agencies must by tomorrow compile a list of DEI offices and workers and by the end of the month submit a written plan for layoffs -- all DEI offices, positions and programs are to be terminated within 60 days "to the maximum extent allowed by law".

And the attorney general has 120 days to submit recommendations to "encourage the private sector" to end its diversity efforts, too.

[Browncoat]

And the people who make the maps for the US government have been instructed to change the name of the Gulf of Mexico to "Gulf of America" on all the maps.  My source is someone who works for that department.

[ProudMary]

6 minutes ago, Browncoat said:

And the people who make the maps for the US government have been instructed to change the name of the Gulf of Mexico to "Gulf of America" on all the maps.  My source is someone who works for that department.

Our taxpayer dollars at work. 😒

[Lantern7]

For the hell of it, I did a search on Google for fatalities at Woodstock. Some sites say two, some say three. That was billed as a weekend of peace and love. Now . . . January 6, aka "a day of love"? Well, we have the five officers we know about, and I see about four Trump supporters who also lost their lives that day . . . emphasis on "day."

Is it too much to ask for penitence from ANYBODY? Lie to us! Say you're sorry! Was your arm gesture not supposed to be fascist-minded? Say it wasn't, and shame the neo-Nazi message boards that are all a-quiver over that.

In other news, I passed by a house with full flags and banners. I should take a picture. If somebody bitches about it, I'll say it's a free country and I wouldn't reveal the exact address because I'm not that big a glutton for harm. Ah, I probably won't. Yelling at a Cybertruck driver for the hell of it was probably going too far as well.

ETA: "Gulf of TBD." Until rational minds prevail.

Edited 4 hours ago by Lantern7