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The ladies arrive in the Hamptons where Sai and Brynn attempt to clear the air, but a miscommunication causes more conflict; Racquel and Rebecca open up about their pasts; Ubah and Brynn find themselves at odds.

First aired on 10/15/2024.

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Sai 2.0 is even more annoying than the first Sai lol. Calling Jenna an old lady was kind of rude. Her defence is weak like yes I talk shit about you to everyone but Brynn telling her is too far: Sai is just trying to deflect because she knows she’s a bitchy shit talker. She’s so annoying. Just be civil then & shut up. Whoever is her therapist is failing lol. 

Who cares who drives by there self. If ppl want to then let them. Erin trying to stir shit like always.

Jenna being so horrified at teens having sex was kind of weird.

Ubah is so annoying. Is she Sai’s minion. She brings nothing to this show. Why is she always just yelling for no reason.

What else does Sai need to talk about with Brynn like move on. It’s not even entertaining.

The Scientologist just rambling on about bs. I can’t remember her name.

Oh god Ubah & Sai have a code word that’s dumb.This is what starts making these shows even worse too this behind the scenes shit & code word bs.

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Well they got through  a meal without  arguing,  but after that, they just had to start.

I don't  know why Ubah is  involved  in all this and f*** off with the pigeon  BS, good lord. I don't  think  Sai is as bothered as Ubah is.

I'm tired  of Brynn saying  she wants to be a lesbian,  grow up Brynn. She's looking  pretty  rough lately,  like she needs sleep. 

Sai looks like a mouseketeer in her TH.

I like Racquel , she seems okay. Jenna giving  Jessel  a Christmas  tree outfit,  was perfect. 

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Sai really ticked me off, calling Jenna an old lady. Because Jenna forgot or claimed to have forgotten? Sai has no redeeming qualities.

Ubah is nonsensical and actually NOT easy on the eyes.

Jessel looks good in that severe, blunt cut (wig).

Jessel and Sai were giggling like lunatics on WWHL. 
 

I wonder if a previous coworker has ever accused Brynn of sexual harassment or assault. I didn’t dig her “It’s Cass… just go with it” while climbing on top of half-asleep Jenna in bed.

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I will give Erin kudos for having that big spread of food for when the ladies arrived. I like how she joked that she did have caviar in the fridge but wasn’t bringing it out for the ladies after they didn’t appreciate her potato chip/caviar appetizer last time. 
 

PS I’m so glad they had bedroom doors (that Jenna closed when the ladies started upping their voices after dinner).  Most were tired and wanted to sleep after their trips “out East”. 

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I don't like either Brynn or Ubah so they can fight to the death for all I care. I do wish that it would be a bit more interesting that just another "but she said this" situation. Agree that Brynn often looks rough and people without Hamptons houses have no business slagging others for their location.

Jessel's new teeth and constant glam are annoying me. I also found Jenna's pearl clutching over teen sex odd. 

Unforch, this cast a characters is always going to be clique-ish. There's too much difference in their ages, lifestyles an income brackets. 

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If we have to watch Sai grimace while assembling a garment rack and dragging the garment rack into the house, I am going to need to see much more attractive outfits/looks from her. Especially her confessional looks, which would have been equally hideous if stuffed under the spare tire in the trunk. 

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7 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

If we have to watch Sai grimace while assembling a garment rack and dragging the garment rack into the house, I am going to need to see much more attractive outfits/looks from her. Especially her confessional looks, which would have been equally hideous if stuffed under the spare tire in the trunk. 

Why did she assemble the rack outside, in the rain, then drag it into the house and up the stairs, banging it against the ceiling? At first I thought she was going to load it up in the driveway before wheeling into the house -which also made no sense to me as her bedroom is on the 2nd floor. Does Bravo give their applicants an intelligence test, then hire the women with the lowest scores? No wonder she has issues with Jenna (F'ing) Lyons, and her best attempt at an insult is calling her old

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I am going to have to agree with Jenna on the reaction to sex among sixteen-year-olds. My son and his classmates are fifteen and sixteen years old. They forget and lose EVERYthing constantly. Phones, ear pod chargers, prescription glasses, guitars - - they’re going to remember to take birth control pills and use condoms? They’re impulsive and irresponsible. They also LIE. To us and to one another. “We’re exclusive. I’m only having sex with you,” said the sixteen-year-old boy to the sixteen-year-old girl. 
 

 

ETA: My son forgets/loses his water container every month.

I am on the pit crew of his band’s team for marching band competitions. His classmates left an ear pod charger, prescription glasses, and guitar on the bus after the competition.

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12 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

Bravo give their applicants an intelligence test, then hire the women with the lowest scores?

I think you answered your own question!

If you sign off on your 16 year old to have sex (in your home) I would think there could be a statutory rape charge in the offing, kids don't think of that sort of thing when they are just one big raging hormone.

Sai has no fashion sense, so it made sense she has no sense putting together a clothing rack.

Did everyone notice the embarrassment of platters piled high with food (like they were going to eat even half of it), in Erin's kitchen plus she ordered food from Provisions like this time she was going to overdo the food since the last time she fed them only caviar and teased them with her almost cooking shakshuka. 

I will never not like Jenna F*cking Lyons.

I will never really like Jessel.

Brynn is a nothing sandwich but I think if Jenna said "OK" she would be dipping her toe, whole foot, diving in head first just to get on the Jenna Lyons money train and a chance to drive that Bently.

 

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11 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

Why did she assemble the rack outside, in the rain, then drag it into the house and up the stairs, banging it against the ceiling? At first I thought she was going to load it up in the driveway before wheeling it into the house - - which also made no sense to me, as her bedroom is on the 2nd floor. Does Bravo give their applicants an intelligence test, then hire the women with the lowest scores? No wonder she has issues with Jenna (F'ing) Lyons, and her best attempt at an insult is calling her old.

 

Good point. (I also thought that she was going to hang up all her clothing while on the driveway.)

I thought she was trying to make this garment rack her “flex,” since last season she made it a huge, dramatic moment that she brought 47 garment bags to Sag Harbor.

Jenna comes across as much more intelligent, educated and articulate (and mature/dignified) than these other cast members ALL THE TIME. She told Andy Cohen on WWHL this month that she originally didn’t want to return for a second season, because she was so much older than everyone else season one. I think that that was a euphemism for “more intelligent.”

 

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33 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

If you sign off on your 16-year-old to have sex (in your home), I would think there could be a statutory rape charge in the offing; kids don't think of that sort of thing when they are just one big raging hormone.

Sai has no fashion sense, so it made sense she has no sense putting together a clothing rack.

I will never not like Jenna F*cking Lyons.

I will never really like Jessel.

Brynn is a nothing sandwich, but I think if Jenna said "OK" she would be dipping her toe, whole foot, diving in head first just to get on the Jenna Lyons money train and a chance to drive that Bentley. 

Yes!!! Their hormones are driving their every thought and act!

bolded: HAHAHAHA!!

Jessel is trying to fake it until she makes it. Which means that she will continue trying to fake it for decades. 
 

Why, when they film the back of Brynn’s head, do we see two distinct layers? Does that mean the much longer layer is extensions? 
 

Imagine learning that one of the cars you considered buying had a waiting list so long that you had to buy a Bentley.

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3 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

ETA: My son forgets/loses his water container every month.

I am on the pit crew of his band’s team for marching band competitions. His classmates left an ear pod charger, prescription glasses, and guitar on the bus after the competition.

I used to be amused by the emails from panicked band parents before a competition because their son lost 1 band shoe (always amusing to hear someone plead for Dinkles). A mother told me her son lost lunch boxes all the time because apparently, once he emptied them of his lunch, they  ceased to exist in his mind.

Did Jenna keep the Benz? that was a beautiful car

And, seriously, what's wrong with having your merchandise sold at Nordstrom Rack? It may not be Neiman Marcus or wherever these idiots shop, but is probably more accessible to and priced more appropriately for a larger number of consumers. Even the Manzos with all their connections, couldn't get their Black Water swill into Target, so Nordstrom Rack should not be sneezed at especially by someone who can't articulate what it is exactly she does for the money that pays her bills,...just sayin'

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I’m hard of hearing, but even with my hearing aids in and the TV volume turned up, I miss a lot of what is going on in this show.  Of course, when they start arguing about who knows what, I tend to tune the show out as well! 😂

Jenna is my favorite, too.

Quite the expansive Hamptons home, Erin!  👍

(When I switched to another station after this show, I had to turn the volume way down on my TV.) 

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I like Jenna, just because she seems so reasonable.  She doesn't seem to buy into the Housewives trope of arguing for the sake of arguing.  I really like seeing her relationship with her son - they seem to be very close.

The rest of the women - ehh - I don't like Bryn.  I'm sure we'll see her as a cast  member on House of Villians soon, because she's good at playing a part - if she's really this way in real life, she's not a nice person.  Not liking Ubah, either.  Sai is shriek-y and annoying.  I don't mind Erin too much, probably my second fave after Jenna on this show.  Jessel is trying too hard to prove herself as a fashionable uptown society lady of NY, and it's not working.  I'm surprised that stupid coat she wore on the helicopter ride didn't get caught up in the propellers - she's trying to become another fashion influencer like Sai, and she looks ridiculous most of the time (as do MOST influencers, imo!)

The two new ladies, I don't even know if I care enough.  I like Rebecca Minkoff, but the Scientology thing puts me off a bit.  

This new cast and format, for me, is not working.  It's the same thing, week in and week out, just constant arguing about their "feelings", every-fucking-where.  Go to a restaurant for lunch, argue about feelings - go to dinner, argue about feelings - go to a friends' gorgeous Hamptons house - argue about feelings they had when they last argued about their feelings....blah, blah, blah...don't they ever DO anything else??  I mean - come on - go shopping, go horseback riding, go play cornhole or pickleball - for God's sake - stop stop arguing over your feelings in front of piles of food that you ooh and ahh over but never eat!!  

I miss the original RHONY ladies - even Dorinda!!!  At least they did some activities and had some FUN! 

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Ubah is annoying, but she's not wrong. They all twist words and lie about who said what.  Even Jenna lied about pointing out Brynn told her Sai hated her.

If they'd all just learn to say, 'yeah, I said that. I exaggerated and shouldn't have. Sorry , won't happen again

And the hurt person said, 'Ok. I accept your apology' and then, shut the hell up about it instead of running to another friend, whining on and on about how hurt they still are, this show would be about 10 minutes long.  

Too funny when they showed Erin's remodel and it basically looked the same. Oh to be rich!

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34 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

Ubah is annoying, but she's not wrong. They all twist words and lie about who said what.  Even Jenna lied about pointing out Brynn told her Sai hated her.

If they'd all just learn to say, 'yeah, I said that. I exaggerated and shouldn't have. Sorry , won't happen again

And the hurt person said, 'Ok. I accept your apology' and then, shut the hell up about it instead of running to another friend, whining on and on about how hurt they still are, this show would be about 10 minutes long.  

Too funny when they showed Erin's remodel and it basically looked the same. Oh to be rich!

But Ubah was being super hypocritical talking for Sai when Sai wasnt there... then also talking shit to Sia about them the night before like girl  .. that made her argument moot .. like girl you are doing what oyu are bitching at us for doing and acting above it ... the girl needed to take several seats calling anyone a Pigeon cause  she looked like a big mouth seagull at that moment

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10 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Sai really ticked me off, calling Jenna an old lady. Because Jenna forgot or claimed to have forgotten? Sai has no redeeming qualities.

Ubah is nonsensical and actually NOT easy on the eyes.

Jessel looks good in that severe, blunt cut (wig).

Jessel and Sai were giggling like lunatics on WWHL. 
 

I wonder if a previous coworker has ever accused Brynn of sexual harassment or assault. I didn’t dig her “It’s Cass… just go with it” while climbing on top of half-asleep Jenna in bed.

I find it extremely annoying when Brynn continues in with her "I want to be a lesbian" talk.  If you want to explore a gay relationship - do it - don't keep talking about it with the gay women in the group, hoping someone will take the bait. I think she sees these successful, wealthy gay women, and thinks she wants that lifestyle - not the gay part, the wealthy part.  If she had any inclinations to being gay, she would have done something about it already.

In my opinion, Brynn is a major self-serving opportunist who would literally jump on any person, male or female, opportunity  to have someone support her in a wealthy lifestyle.  She would prostitute herself to the biggest bank account.  She loves to play the kittenish coquette, but usually with people who are unattainable or uninterested - gay women who know she is not gay and men married to her friends. Brynn's in her late 30's - that cutesie coquette persona will become desperate and juvenile very soon (she should pay attention to how sad and desperate Sonja Morgan came across the last few years of the OG RHONY).

I'm surprised that Jenna hasn't already had this conversation with her (maybe it doesn't bother Jenna?) - maybe the new girl (is her name Raquel?) will.  

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Only reason why Erin should always keep an apple.... her ability to host the annual Hamptons trip.   She's too OCD to be a chill hostess... and I concur that this should be an annual tradition 

Ubah is only holding an apple because of her cousin, and sadly, offers nothing of value.

Did Jenna do a little bit of stirring the pot?  Maybe there is hope yet for our awkward housewife :) 

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17 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

I'm tired  of Brynn saying  she wants to be a lesbian,  grow up Brynn. She's looking  pretty  rough lately,  like she needs sleep. 

 

Oh my god it’s just so not funny.  

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21 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I will Stan Brynn for this 

“offend me in a better way” 

that is MOTHeR I’m sorry 

I’m old (not as old as Jenna though)!  What does that mean?

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Sai is 43 and should know better than to call Jenna old. That said, I overall like Sai for the most part. I also like Jenna. Erin can be likable but also irritating depending on the circumstances. Jessel doesn’t bother me and I find her husband likable. I expected to like Rebecca Minkoff more than I do. Brynn is super annoying. Ubah as should be fun but she’s set on doing a stir the pot routine and it’s ruining anything likable about her. I kind of like the new lady. (I can’t remember her name but I am over 50 so you know what Sai would say)

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58 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

I’m old (not as old as Jenna though)!  What does that mean?

Lol it can have varying meanings depending on context you are using it in 

 

For me this was mother behavior because she is saying if you’re gonna verbally fight me at least make it interesting.. anyone can just throw out curse words or name call (I’m sorry pigeon is so 5th grade) but to read someone in a way without stooping to that is an actual skill .. you wanna be a bitch step your game up 

 

that’s mother :p

 

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Why bother to remodel your kitchen if it looks almost identical to the previous one regarding the design, the materials, the colors, down to the faucet? 

Yes, Jenna was stirring the pot (she has to be a HW after all).

Sai is 43. A 20 year old (or even older than that) would think she is "old". She better be careful because older women have more money, and she is an influencer that promotes products to women. 

It's true though that the women gossip behind each other's back, and they embellish. 

Brynn didn't want to talk to Sai, like she hazed Erin in her townhouse in the last episode.

Was Jenna pushed to buy a Bentley because some of the women claimed she was poor? 

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22 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I am going to have to agree with Jenna on the reaction to sex among sixteen-year-olds. My son and his classmates are fifteen and sixteen years old. They forget and lose EVERYthing constantly. Phones, ear pod chargers, prescription glasses, guitars - - they’re going to remember to take birth control pills and use condoms? They’re impulsive and irresponsible. They also LIE. To us and to one another. “We’re exclusive. I’m only having sex with you,” said the sixteen-year-old boy to the sixteen-year-old girl. 
 

 

ETA: My son forgets/loses his water container every month.

I am on the pit crew of his band’s team for marching band competitions. His classmates left an ear pod charger, prescription glasses, and guitar on the bus after the competition.

Gosh, I am Jenna F’ing Lyons old and grew up in southern Massachusetts in the 80s. Maybe there was something in the water but everybody was having sex with everybody by 17. By the time I had had finished high school five girls had gotten pregnant that I knew of. While I can appreciate that kids lose everything, as I do have two adult daughters that kept me on my toes,  I can also appreciate that they often times lose their virginity early ….sadly. Not saying it’s right or wrong but hormonal teens will often times be doing the deed, despite what their parents think or know about it. 

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1 hour ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

NY used to be my favourite housewives iteration. ::sigh::

Remember when the forum here was jam packed with comments? ::sigh::

 

I mean all the housewives shows are getting long in the tooth i think the ERA of them is coming to a end ... They did have a good run tho but there is a LOT more competition these days on other networks and streaming for this kind of entertainment 

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And they still give us moments like Brynn going on and on about how gauche and inappropriate Ubah is being in their argument and she won't even stoop to responding to such pedantic drivel in the same episode she was sexually inappropriate to pretty much everything with a pulse.

I mean entertainment like that is hard to come by......

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17 hours ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

NY used to be my favourite housewives iteration. ::sigh::

Remember when the forum here was jam packed with comments? ::sigh::

 

I think the week long black out in January drove many posters away. 

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This belongs in Kelly Killoren Bensimon’s (Bestselling) Book of Literal Interpretations.

 

We’re yelling safe words now?

No, no, no. The only safe word is when I’m having sex. Am I having sex right now?

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8 hours ago, ZettaK said:

I think the week long black out in January drove many posters away. 

Over zealous moderators didn’t help (now I’m going to get a warning. Aren’t I?)

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I hate to be that guy but I do miss the OG's because, sure, Ramona is despicable and Sonja's a drunk, but I miss the days when nothing was off limits, or at least most of it. We don't (and probably never will) know Jenna's girlfriend (and is she married? I think I saw on IG where she alluded to that), we don't know Ubah's boyfriend, Sai's "healing journey" is always a tired storyline, Jessel's pretty harmless but she adds almost nothing to anything and Brynn is a poor man's Sonja Morgan and that bar was already set too low. Oh, and I hate that the real disagreements happened off camera or through messages and I barely understand what they're talking about. 

Every single one of the OG's would've been all over Rebecca Minkoff being a Scientologist, I prefer Blue Stone Manor to Erin's house (and while LuAnn's house is smaller, that was my favorite real state porn out of all franchises, save Jenna's apartment...) This crop barely had the energy to play 10 minutes of tennis, while LuAnn would've been sexing up the tennis instructor and would've played an entire match with Ramona just to prove she was better at it. Didn't Erin say that she spent her childhood playing tennis? She was barely able to hit the ball. 

I appreciate that Jenna's trying to get more in the mix and Racquel oozes coolness, but that's not enough to keep me interested. 

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4 hours ago, charliesan said:

I hate to be that guy but I do miss the OG's because, sure, Ramona is despicable and Sonja's a drunk, but I miss the days when nothing was off limits, or at least most of it. We don't (and probably never will) know Jenna's girlfriend (and is she married? I think I saw on IG where she alluded to that), we don't know Ubah's boyfriend, Sai's "healing journey" is always a tired storyline, Jessel's pretty harmless but she adds almost nothing to anything and Brynn is a poor man's Sonja Morgan and that bar was already set too low. Oh, and I hate that the real disagreements happened off camera or through messages and I barely understand what they're talking about. 

Every single one of the OG's would've been all over Rebecca Minkoff being a Scientologist, I prefer Blue Stone Manor to Erin's house (and while LuAnn's house is smaller, that was my favorite real state porn out of all franchises, save Jenna's apartment...) This crop barely had the energy to play 10 minutes of tennis, while LuAnn would've been sexing up the tennis instructor and would've played an entire match with Ramona just to prove she was better at it. Didn't Erin say that she spent her childhood playing tennis? She was barely able to hit the ball. 

I appreciate that Jenna's trying to get more in the mix and Racquel oozes coolness, but that's not enough to keep me interested. 

Also the OGs weren’t not a bunch of Debbie Downers.

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5 hours ago, charliesan said:

I hate to be that guy but I do miss the OG's because, sure, Ramona is despicable and Sonja's a drunk, but I miss the days when nothing was off limits, or at least most of it. We don't (and probably never will) know Jenna's girlfriend (and is she married? I think I saw on IG where she alluded to that), we don't know Ubah's boyfriend, Sai's "healing journey" is always a tired storyline, Jessel's pretty harmless but she adds almost nothing to anything and Brynn is a poor man's Sonja Morgan and that bar was already set too low. Oh, and I hate that the real disagreements happened off camera or through messages and I barely understand what they're talking about. 

Every single one of the OG's would've been all over Rebecca Minkoff being a Scientologist, I prefer Blue Stone Manor to Erin's house (and while LuAnn's house is smaller, that was my favorite real state porn out of all franchises, save Jenna's apartment...) This crop barely had the energy to play 10 minutes of tennis, while LuAnn would've been sexing up the tennis instructor and would've played an entire match with Ramona just to prove she was better at it. Didn't Erin say that she spent her childhood playing tennis? She was barely able to hit the ball. 

I appreciate that Jenna's trying to get more in the mix and Racquel oozes coolness, but that's not enough to keep me interested. 

It was very interesting to hear about Racquel's career.

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My naughty Enquiring minds wanna know side secretly thinks Jenna is attracted to Raquel and I was loving that they roomed together. Cass is quite plain. Opps. 
Mel is sexy OTOH so I’m sure nothing will happen. But I’m intrigued. Also loved hearing the back story on Raquel as an art dealer and curator. That requires a lot of capital to start a collection like that! What a cool and unique pivot from modeling. 

Cacking hags monotone Erin is such a complete bore. Mounds of take out food and a kitchen redo that looks exactly how it used to are not enough Erin. Look! This white marble is the more expensive whiter version of my old white marble! This black kitchen faucet only needs you to wave your hand in front of it, no more buttons! Erin seriously, everything about her puts me to sleep. Get a personality! 

Ubah is not funny or witty with her pigeon nonsense. She’s also not half as cute as she purports to be. She’s tall with chipmunk cheeks. Continuing to yell at your housemates makes YOU the pigeon Ubah. And an annoying one at that. I truly hope the producers are listening. Ubah is not “hot,”  funny, or anything I want to watch next season. I fast forward thru any scenes she’s in alone. Never a good sign. I also used to fast forward thru Teddi Melancamp scenes on RHOOC & Nneka on RHOP both of which were kicked off. Also anything to do with Danielle’s kids on  RHONJ. I don’t care how bougie she tried to make them!!  (And the word is still out on who is making the cut on that franchise). 

The ongoing Uber payment feud is odd. It’s obvious Jenna is withholding paying Erin back because she thinks it’s funny.  I’d be annoyed too! Doesn’t matter if she can afford it or not! Pay for the damn Uber Jenna!

Sais outfits except the sporty one are such a miss for me. The oversized gangster pin stripe suit look was so stupid. She looked like she had her father’s clothes on. Her voice annoys me as well. She’s just a mean little chihuahua. 

Jessel is also a fashion victim. Going to dinner in a dress with her entire crotch out and basically everything else out because some designer slapped their name on it is just so desperate. I’m imagining the upscale Hampton restaurant patrons having to avert their tender eyes as Jessel led with her crotch forward “fit” into the dining room. I will say I enjoy Jessel otherwise  

 Brynn as others have said is looking super rough. Her skin and hair need more moisture and hydration than I have time to dwell on. The overt weird lesbian talk is silly. At this point if she was truly curious she would have done it. This is just more of her version of weird pandering coquettish pick me crap and I’m so over it! 🙄

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On 10/16/2024 at 4:59 PM, heatherchandler said:

I’m old (not as old as Jenna though)!  What does that mean?

It means respect... As in I respect that argument...

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On 10/17/2024 at 11:56 PM, ZettaK said:

I think the week long black out in January drove many posters away. 

Lots of people lost to that!  
This place is empty lately.

 

1 hour ago, Aim123 said:

It means respect... As in I respect that argument...

MOTHeR means respect?

This is so Ohio.  I’m sorry I'm too old for this. 

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On 10/18/2024 at 4:08 PM, charliesan said:

I hate to be that guy but I do miss the OG's because, sure, Ramona is despicable and Sonja's a drunk, but I miss the days when nothing was off limits, or at least most of it. We don't (and probably never will) know Jenna's girlfriend (and is she married? I think I saw on IG where she alluded to that), we don't know Ubah's boyfriend, Sai's "healing journey" is always a tired storyline, Jessel's pretty harmless but she adds almost nothing to anything and Brynn is a poor man's Sonja Morgan and that bar was already set too low. Oh, and I hate that the real disagreements happened off camera or through messages and I barely understand what they're talking about. 

I agree that they're all too guarded. It's frustrating because I don't actually think the majority of these women are bad casting choices! Jessel lacks self- awareness in a classic Real Housewives way and could be exquisite with a different cast. Brynn is probably the most frustrating of all because she actually seems like she has a brain and could be interesting, but all we see is the stupid sex kitten schtick that is at best annoying and at worst deeply problematic. Some of them are quick-witted and naturally funny, but we seldom get to see it. When they do let their guards down and just interact like normal people, it's so refreshing! I laughed out loud a few times watching their dinner at the Greek restaurant!

But, in general, they don't share anything! And anything they do share is dissected endlessly! So, how can this be a show?!?

I almost feel like at this point they should drop the fourth wall entirely and just make this a show about what it's like to be on RHW. 

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On 10/18/2024 at 4:08 PM, charliesan said:

Every single one of the OG's would've been all over Rebecca Minkoff being a Scientologist,

I can just imagine Ramona grilling her on what really happened to Shelly Miscavige. 

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38 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I sincerely doubt anyone on either cast has heard of Shelly. 

Ah true. (Well, maybe Carole?) But I feel like if a little birdie dropped into Ramona's DMs with the info, she might run with it. 

I actually loathe Ramona, for various reasons, but I will say that at least she seemed to show an authentic-ish self to the world, warts and crazy eyes and all. 

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