S09.E05: Caught Between a Dock and a Heart Place

[snarts]

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Tensions flare when two stews pursue the same deckhand; with a charter on the horizon, Aesha is rushed to the hospital, leaving her interior team in disarray; the deck team is still recovering from a difficult charter and struggles to maintain order.

Airs 7.1.2024

[PaperTree]

Oh my!!!!

[snarts]

Jono - the sushi looked good but that steak had zero sear and looked grey. The lobster appeared to be overcooked, it was falling apart  Plus the plating was absolutely horrific. 

Ellie-100% belittling and nasty. She has a right be hurt but that doesn't mean she can use her position to punish Bri. 

Aesha-calling out Ellie's onlyfans career was epic shade. Loved it. 

[iMonrey]

31 minutes ago, snarts said:

Ellie-100% belittling and nasty. She has a right be hurt but that doesn't mean she can use her position to punish Bri. 

Team Bri all the way. Aesha was on Watch What Crappens and clarified that Ellie is not, in fact, Bri's supervisor. That's not a thing. 

This mean girl shit is tedious and juvenile, and I hate how the show seems to be leaning into this kind of thing lately instead of focusing on the food, service and guests the way they used to. 

Didn't Ellie and Bri have a conversation about Joe just last week where Ellie said she wasn't going to pursue Joe or anyone? She has no right to get all shirty about Bri going after him. And now she's bitching that Bri isn't sleeping in her cabin? You can't have it both ways. 

I wondered what was up with Marsha's weird hair until one of the guests said she had breast cancer three times then I felt bad. Except then at the renewal ceremony Sandy said she survived breast cancer twice. Twice or three times? 

The primary said her steak was dry but it looked raw to me. 

[SHERMDOG]

Elle=BITCH

[aghst]

Trishelle from The Real World and The Challenge was one of the guests.  Does she really know the other guests or did they just cobble together people who wanted to be on TV?

Let's see if the replacement chef is someone random and new or some BD alum.  Then there could be shenanigans on replacing the chef after 3 charters.

Iain doing dips and pull ups, like another previous deckhand.  He's next though it looks like the problem with the anchor was many Joe's screw up?

Bravo got more mileage of Joe asking whose dick Bri would take, played it at the end o previous episode and at the start of this one.

Crew is encouraged to hook up, so why would Ellie or Bri be territorial or call dibs or whatever?  Should be understood that they're all free to hook up with whomever.  The casting probably is biased towards single people.

Ellie came on the show probably to promote her OnlyFans career so she isn't going to pass up a chance to give a sample of her OF portfolio on a TV show with a global audience.

Because she didn't just happen to have that outfit on board in case some "guests" asked for a runway show.  Producers probably agreed to have some event like that and happily set it up for Ellie to do her strut.

But what is their motivation?  Do they imagine some OF figure will bring more ratings?  She's attractive but doesn't really stand out on TV nor even among all the young female cast members who've been on the BD-verse.

Apparently Gael is some big deal on social media as well but she hasn't put on some special outfit, at least not yet.  No doubt there will be some spa day where the women will all lounge in bikinis this season.

[Chatty Cake]

While Elle comparing herself to a Lamborghini is off putting, I did think good for her for not running out to the hot tub to get with Joe. She got mad but did she not tell Bri she didn’t care who ended up with Joe?  I do think she enjoys bossing Bri around and more than just helping her do a good job. I didn’t think the second stew got to boss the third around. 
Are there menus on super yachts or do the chefs just pick out stuff based on a preference sheet? It seems like there would be more procedures (and staff)  in place while running a galley kitchen.

[Baltimore Betty]

7 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I wondered what was up with Marsha's weird hair until one of the guests said she had breast cancer three times then I felt bad. Except then at the renewal ceremony Sandy said she survived breast cancer twice. Twice or three times? 

I am sure she was a colorful character prior to her breast cancer battles but here is what I caught, Sandy knows she will be officiating the renewal of vows so she prepared her speech, in it she mentions that Marsha had fought cancer but the editing was weird because the ex model told Sandy just prior to the ceremony...Sandy had that speech written prior to being told about Marsha's breast cancer.

I know production probably wrote it but the continuity just did not play out.

Ellie was completely out of line, she said she wasn't going to fight over a guy then promptly starts a fight over a guy, she is being cruel to Bri and then mad because she is sleeping elsewhere, I would have thought Ellie would have been thrilled to not have Bri in the cabin, maybe because the guys are being nice and paying attention to Bri?  

That outfit Ellie put on for the catwalk was sedate compared to what she wore on their night out.  Half the time these young women dress like hookers, unstylish, sloppy, trampy and body parts often make an appearance, these women have terrific figures and have no idea how to dress. 

Sandy tells Bri that she and Ellie need to figure it out or they are both gone, first of all I don't believe that, the drama is needed, Aesha would have to train two new stews, Sandy wouldn't get rid of them.  Sandy flip flops between embracing people and helping them and treating people as if they are disposable, she could really help this situation but her knee jerk reaction was to to tell Bri figure it out or you are out...nice work Sandy, idiot.

What was the red dust under the steak?

How could that one person's steak be so dry it was not eaten but look like Mommy Dearest level of raw?  

Sandy had the deck crew put out all of the toys and the slide on the last morning of the trip, nobody was up until it was breakfast time then they went to pack and then left the boat, that in it's self could have been reason for a mutiny, lol.

 

 

[Baltimore Betty]

18 minutes ago, Chatty Cake said:

While Elle comparing herself to a Lamborghini is off putting, I did think good for her for not running out to the hot tub to get with Joe. She got mad but did she not tell Bri she didn’t care who ended up with Joe?  I do think she enjoys bossing Bri around and more than just helping her do a good job. I didn’t think the second stew got to boss the third around. 
Are there menus on super yachts or do the chefs just pick out stuff based on a preference sheet? It seems like there would be more procedures (and staff)  in place while running a galley kitchen.

I believe it was Chef Leon who implemented the rotating menu of Beef Cheeks.

Ellie being this level of petty should be off putting to any man wanting to date her, any employer wanting to hire her and probably her (ex) friends already know this about her. 

Maybe Ellie is gearing up for a big apology so she can look saintly. How would a Lamborghini apologize anyway?

 

[Chatty Cake]

I think these shows they put on almost always look stupid and tacky. Even if I was a tipsy guest, I don’t think I would find any of that crap entertaining. Elle thinks that everyone wants  to see her in various skimpy . She is not as hot as she thinks she is.

22 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

 

Maybe Ellie is gearing up for a big apology so she can look saintly. How would a Lamborghini apologize anyway?

 

Beep beep? 

[65mickey]

10 hours ago, snarts said:

Jono - the sushi looked good but that steak had zero sear and looked grey. The lobster appeared to be overcooked, it was falling apart  Plus the plating was absolutely horrific. 

I have never seen a cooked steak look grey. It looked like it might have been run through a microwave. The "chef" doesn't know how to cook. Why was he hired in the first place if he is not a trained chef? I guess just to cause drama and give Sandy a reason to flex her muscles and fire the chef. But that guest who complained that her steak was dry I don't buy that. 

[sugarbaker design]

44 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

Why was he hired in the first place if he is not a trained chef?

That is the question of the day!

[Baltimore Betty]

42 minutes ago, sugarbaker design said:

That is the question of the day!

I think it was for just this reason, to have him set up for failure and for Sandy to fire him (anyone really), because that is her signature move every season, firing a crew member is the way she gets to show how she is a great leader so says she.

[iMonrey]

28 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I think it was for just this reason, to have him set up for failure and for Sandy to fire him (anyone really), because that is her signature move every season, firing a crew member is the way she gets to show how she is a great leader so says she.

They definitely cast incompetent people deliberately. Never forget the Russian chef who couldn't even make pancakes with a mix. But as I posted earlier - I can't imagine a lot of five star chefs are lining up to go on this shitshow. It's probably hard to find a good chef even on a real chartered yacht, let alone one used for a reality show where they make it as hard as possible to do the job.

[tvfanatic13]

First of all, Aesha was NOT rushed to the hospital. Good god. 

Sandy- don't fan girl over Trishelle and others (who were they???)  🙄

Ellie- ugh. But I am confused- the guys did not seem to mind Bri sleeping on the floor but then complained about it. This whole season is a boring mess. 

 

[Zaffy]

I think the one who is "scripting" the show was having way too much ouzo to think and write straight!
I haven't seen a drama like the Bri - Ellie one since I was in elementary school.
Next week I guess the chef is going home. And the anchor mechanism seems to brake or something. Btw, these kind of boats go on service/maintenance  at least twice a year and certainly before the start of the season. So I do not buy the equipment failures, the leaks, the engines that malfunction and all this fake situations just for the shake of artificial drama.
The only real thing probably was Aesha cutting her finger.
Maybe is time for the franchise to end. They have run out of ideas, of proper guests, of decent crews and I guess their only "life guard" is the pre-teens who enjoy to watch juvenile "love" stories.
It is quite some time but I do remember once upon a time when there wasn't so much drama, they were showing us the beautiful locations and the boats weren't malfunctioning as much.

p.s. Trichelle,  yeah, I saw her on "Traitors", a reality game I watched only for Kate Chastain (I love her humor) and the amazing Alan Cumming. Trichelle was the  winner of that season of Traitors with another guy, can't remember his name. 

[sugarbaker design]

7 minutes ago, Zaffy said:

p.s. Trichelle,  yeah, I saw her on "Traitors", a reality game I watched only for Kate Chastain (I love her humor) and the amazing Alan Cumming. Trichelle was the  winner of that season of Traitors with another guy, can't remember his name. 

CT!

 

[Shrek]

58 minutes ago, Zaffy said:

Next week I guess the chef is going home. And the anchor mechanism seems to brake or something. Btw, these kind of boats go on service/maintenance  at least twice a year and certainly before the start of the season. So I do not buy the equipment failures, the leaks, the engines that malfunction and all this fake situations just for the shake of artificial drama.
 

Things still break no matter how much maintenance they get, and most things don't get any except for specific times, such is life. Not everything is a conspiracy no matter how hard people try to make it so.

[Zaffy]

2 hours ago, Shrek said:

Things still break no matter how much maintenance they get, and most things don't get any except for specific times, such is life. Not everything is a conspiracy no matter how hard people try to make it so.

Not in luxury yachts, they are inspected, audited, certified. There are regulations and insurance policies.
Plus all the problems are not dangerous for the crew or the guests, just minor issues to cause the tv drama.

Edited July 2 by Zaffy

[iMonrey]

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Things still break no matter how much maintenance they get, and most things don't get any except for specific times, such is life. Not everything is a conspiracy no matter how hard people try to make it so.

Plus they threw this season together last minute because of Gary on Sailing Yacht so who knows where the boat was. 

1 hour ago, Zaffy said:

Plus all the problems are not dangerous for the crew or the guests, just minor issues to cause the tv drama.

Wait, so you think the show broke the anchor on purpose just for drama? Um, I don't think the boat owners would allow that. And that doesn't sound like a minor thing either.

What about the time the chain got all twisted up because the boat drifted too much overnight? Do you think they did that on purpose too? How about all the smoke billowing out of the broken engine last season on Sailing Yacht? Special effects?

I just don't think production has the power or wherewithal to pull off shit like that. You're giving a cheap Bravo show way too much credit.

[aghst]

I don't think they'd purposely break things.

But they will make a big deal out of what might be fairly minor issues which are common in maintenance of these ships.

Like the season where the motor on the sailing yacht was broken and Colin and Glen had to chase down a part and eventually fixed it like a handful of episodes into the season.

If these issues were serious, presumably they could have delayed starting the shooting.  It would be costly for production to reschedule everything or pay to have people hang around while they fix the boats.

But instead they probably say why not make a story out of it and apparently they were not prevented from having guests board the ship and then taking them out.

Probably not too far from port, just a radio call if they needed to be towed back to port or something.

 

 

[Zaffy]

2 hours ago, iMonrey said:

Wait, so you think the show broke the anchor on purpose just for drama?

Yes I do. Cause this basically scripted tv that needs drama.
Of course it was more ridiculous in the Sailing BD when the whole engine was broken just before the first charter started.
Real yachts that do charters go through inspections, maintenance and need to be certified, same goes with the crew.  Not to mention insurance.
But you and me we had this conversation before. You believe everything is real in BD shows, I believe that in latest seasons most of it is scripted.

 

2 hours ago, aghst said:

Like the season where the motor on the sailing yacht was broken and Colin and Glen had to chase down a part and eventually fixed it like a handful of episodes into the season.

That was absolutely ridiculous, there is no way they hadn't thoroughly tested the engine before the beginning of the season. Well, not in real yachts. On TV yachts things work differently 😉

Edited July 3 by Zaffy

[howiveaddict]

Ellie is just mad that Bri is getting more camera time by sleeping in the boys room. Also Ellie not hooking up, keeps her from performing her own soft porn scene.  

Love how non-seriously Aisha takes herself.  She looked goofy with that blue wig while Ellie had to spend all that time to look like she did.  And I really don't think the guests cared that much. They were waiting to go to bed.

I assumed those tenderloin came as a roast and chef cut them into steaks. It would have been a lot better to roast the meat whole, medium rare and then cut into serving size.  Put salt, garlic, rosemary on the outside before roasting.  Start at high heat and then lower after about 30 minutes. Makes a nice crispy crust on the outside.. Makes an excellent cut of meat.   I don't even cook much anymore, but know who to make that. At least it wouldn't turn out grey.

 

[MadMiniaturist]

10 hours ago, Zaffy said:

Yes I do. Cause this basically scripted tv that needs drama.

Do you enjoy watching the show? Clearly there's something about it you like.  I think we can all agree that not everything on these reality shows is on the up and up....but why the need to point out so called "scripted" stuff as nauseum? It really is like a broken record.

[Baltimore Betty]

10 hours ago, howiveaddict said:

Ellie is just mad that Bri is getting more camera time by sleeping in the boys room. Also Ellie not hooking up, keeps her from performing her own soft porn scene.  

Love how non-seriously Aisha takes herself.  She looked goofy with that blue wig while Ellie had to spend all that time to look like she did.  And I really don't think the guests cared that much. They were waiting to go to bed.

I assumed those tenderloin came as a roast and chef cut them into steaks. It would have been a lot better to roast the meat whole, medium rare and then cut into serving size.  Put salt, garlic, rosemary on the outside before roasting.  Start at high heat and then lower after about 30 minutes. Makes a nice crispy crust on the outside.. Makes an excellent cut of meat.   I don't even cook much anymore, but know who to make that. At least it wouldn't turn out grey.

 

I think you hit the nail on the head, that said I am surprised Ellie hasn't put on her skimpiest bikini and head off to the hot tub every chance she gets, that might help her OF. She started off the season being a decent person it is a shame her ego got in the way and now she has turned in to a mean girl, it is never a good look.

Oh No Jono missed the point of a tenderloin, grill for a sear outside then finish in the oven then slice it, make a demi glace or a bordelaise, what was that red dust he sprinkled on the plate...why would her destroy the beauty of a tenderloin? Why do some of these chefs ignore Google to learn more about what they are cooking is beyond me, all the recipes and videos on how to make anything are out there on the interwebs, lol. 

 

[iMonrey]

15 hours ago, Zaffy said:

But you and me we had this conversation before. You believe everything is real in BD shows, I believe that in latest seasons most of it is scripted.

Uh, I've never claimed everything is real. It's a TV show. There are all kinds of casting shenanigans and recruited guests and ridiculous asks like theme parties and beach picnics to ensure the crew are driven to exhaustion. 

But I find it hard to believe a cheap dog and pony show on Bravo could be entirely "scripted" to the extent you seem to think without it having gotten out long ago. Especially when you consider the number of crew members and guests who have paraded through these shows over eleven years. The idea that Bravo could keep all those people from spilling the beans is real tinfoil hat conspiracy territory.

Hey, maybe they're not even in Greece! It's all painted backdrops shot on a soundstage in Burbank! It's not even a real boat! Just a set!

[SemiCharmedLife]

On 7/2/2024 at 9:47 AM, tvfanatic13 said:

First of all, Aesha was NOT rushed to the hospital. Good god. 

Sandy- don't fan girl over Trishelle and others (who were they???)  🙄

Ellie- ugh. But I am confused- the guys did not seem to mind Bri sleeping on the floor but then complained about it. This whole season is a boring mess. 

 

I think they are okay with her sleeping there in a pinch, but once she started saying how ideal the situation was (same bedtimes, etc), they became  worried that she will expect to stay there nightly.

[Zaffy]

17 hours ago, iMonrey said:

Especially when you consider the number of crew members and guests who have paraded through these shows over eleven years.

so you do not know what a NDA is. interesting!

23 hours ago, MadMiniaturist said:

but why the need to point out so called "scripted" stuff as nauseum? It really is like a broken record.

Well their scripts episodes are like a broken record.
They keep repeating the same formula again and again. They do not even try anymore. It is declining, season by season.
I had stopped watching the BDs the last couple of years or so (although I was giving them a try for a couple of episodes). I decided to watch this one because it is filmed in my home city and because of Aesha.

I won't stop criticizing so you can simply ignore my posts.

Edited July 4 by Zaffy

[iMonrey]

7 hours ago, Zaffy said:

so you do not know what a NDA is. interesting!

So you never heard of Stacey Stillman. Interesting!

Look, when you account for all the guests and all the crew members that have appeared on these shows for over a decade, the odds that not a single one would have talked about it are phenomenally low. That's an absurd proposition. Especially with how many people have come away with their personal and professional lives seriously damaged.

7 hours ago, Zaffy said:

I decided to watch this one because it is filmed in my home city and because of Aesha.

You like Aesha even though you think she's a lying liar who lies? Because according to you the show is scripted. So Aesha, along with everyone else who has worked on the show and has been interviewed about the show, says it isn't. 

Edited July 4 by iMonrey

[nokat]

1 hour ago, iMonrey said:

So you never heard of Stacey Stillman. Interesting!

Look, when you account for all the guests and all the crew members that have appeared on these shows for over a decade, the odds that not a single one would have talked about it are phenomenally low. That's an absurd proposition. Especially with how many people have come away with their personal and professional lives seriously damaged.

You like Aesha even though you think she's a lying liar who lies? Because according to you the show is scripted. So Aesha, along with everyone else who has worked on the show and has been interviewed about the show, says it isn't. 

I'm agreeing with you here.

We've seen the engineers occasionally. They are the ones keeping everyone safe.

They need the drama to keep eyes watching. Think of how many hours of footage they have. No need of scripting. They need editors and producers (who we heard recently).

[Zaffy]

19 hours ago, iMonrey said:

So you never heard of Stacey Stillman. Interesting!

I honestly have no clue who (s)he is.
 

19 hours ago, iMonrey said:

You like Aesha even though you think she's a lying liar who lies? Because according to you the show is scripted.

No I do not think she is a liar, since I have accepted that she is playing a role. I do enjoy her attitude and personality, I just do not believe her  drama when she is so desperate to serve rose wine to her guests but she doesn't walk 5-10mins to buy some.
My problem is not the "scripting" per se, but that the production thinks they can fool us to believe all what is happening is accidental  and not orchestrated. Like for example that all the guests are real and truly rich people who pay 20000$ in tips so they can enjoy lame parties with decoration that is not even worthy for kids etc etc. 
 

[aghst]

19 hours ago, nokat said:

I'm agreeing with you here.

We've seen the engineers occasionally. They are the ones keeping everyone safe.

They need the drama to keep eyes watching. Think of how many hours of footage they have. No need of scripting. They need editors and producers (who we heard recently).

With other reality shows, we know producers don't leave it to chance, just film and hope for drama.

They're shaping the events by telling the cast things behind the scenes so that when they shoot, the cast is thinking a particular way.

It's easier for reporters to try to find out what's going on behind the scenes on a show like The Bachelor or other reality shows filmed in the US.

Maybe BD being filmed far away on a boat, with foreign production crews, they can't get as much access to insiders.

In any event, these producers on location are under pressure to deliver drama.  Otherwise they get replaced.  Bravo shows tend to stay on the air a long time, multiple seasons.  Instead of replacing shows they replace casts and producers.

If all they deliver are rather uneventful episodes, where these fake charters go as planned, without any problems or conflicts between crew members, viewers probably would start to tune out.  Not necessarily stop watching but maybe look at their phones and have the show on in the background because nothing "memorable" is happening on the show.

That's why they don't leave anything to chance.  You have preference sheets asking for ridiculous things or just stuff which will cause stress to the crew.

You have them go out every time between charters, where they're plying them with booze and cast people with personalities which are likely to cause drama.

How anyone can unsee the manipulation is staggering.  Or is anyone contending that everything we see is real, the producers are really hands off?

[nokat]

7 minutes ago, aghst said:

With other reality shows, we know producers don't leave it to chance, just film and hope for drama.

They're shaping the events by telling the cast things behind the scenes so that when they shoot, the cast is thinking a particular way.

It's easier for reporters to try to find out what's going on behind the scenes on a show like The Bachelor or other reality shows filmed in the US.

Maybe BD being filmed far away on a boat, with foreign production crews, they can't get as much access to insiders.

In any event, these producers on location are under pressure to deliver drama.  Otherwise they get replaced.  Bravo shows tend to stay on the air a long time, multiple seasons.  Instead of replacing shows they replace casts and producers.

If all they deliver are rather uneventful episodes, where these fake charters go as planned, without any problems or conflicts between crew members, viewers probably would start to tune out.  Not necessarily stop watching but maybe look at their phones and have the show on in the background because nothing "memorable" is happening on the show.

That's why they don't leave anything to chance.  You have preference sheets asking for ridiculous things or just stuff which will cause stress to the crew.

You have them go out every time between charters, where they're plying them with booze and cast people with personalities which are likely to cause drama.

How anyone can unsee the manipulation is staggering.  Or is anyone contending that everything we see is real, the producers are really hands off?

I'm agreeing here. There is so much going on behind the scenes to keep up the drama. We see the D-listers showing up to act like asshats. 

[Shrek]

49 minutes ago, aghst said:

 

How anyone can unsee the manipulation is staggering.  Or is anyone contending that everything we see is real, the producers are really hands off?

There's a huge gap between reality & scripted. I don't think anybody has said it's not manipulated or the cast guided to go down a certain path & that the cast have particular personalities that probably wouldn't usually get them a job or at least keep them in one, with some exceptions like the captains but that is a long way from it being scripted as has been stated. Would it even be allowed to be called a reality show if it was scripted ? Aren't there rules that have to be followed in regards to people being actors rather than just joe schmo?

I don't think anyone believes that the crew of a "normal" yacht go & get smashed every time they have more than 8 hours off, we even know that doesn't happen from the very early seasons of this show but it has degenerated into a poor shadow of what it once was. 

[Chalby]

On 7/1/2024 at 10:44 PM, aghst said:

ellie came on the show probably to promote her OnlyFans career so she isn't going to pass up a chance to give a sample of her OF portfolio on a TV show with a global audience.

Definitely! ANY acting on a reality television show will increase her exposure, and definitely get her new OF clients. Given her open and free attitude, good on her for the hustle. I can't fault her for having ambition.

[Chalby]

On 7/4/2024 at 3:21 AM, Zaffy said:

so you do not know what a NDA is. interesting!

I'm fine with whatever criticisms or observations you post about, but I'd like to add a thought.

I don't imagine an NDA would ever be considered on this show, even if just for optics. A reality show NDA agreement sounds hypocritical and actors could get viewers riled up if they mentioned having to sign anything that doesn't allow someone to speak the truth.

I also believe certain narratives aren't scripted, but rather decided upon by the cast. Hey, maybe we could talk about this, or an issue I have. I believe much of what they share probably started as a boring fact, or incident, and they're jazzing it up.

[Chalby]

On 7/2/2024 at 6:05 PM, Zaffy said:

That was absolutely ridiculous, there is no way they hadn't thoroughly tested the engine before the beginning of the season. Well, not in real yachts. On TV yachts things work differently 😉

I think the 'emergency' of the motor was exaggerated, but I do believe they were simply waiting on a part before they took it out on a proper charter.

That would be boring, but if you pay people to act like this may ruin their season, people may tune in.

Every storyline usually starts off with a hint of boring truth. Where there's smoke there's fire. (Eg: I don't believe Daisy was acting when she learned Gary told a cameraman he and she knocked boots. I was also mortified for her. Did Colin already know this, probably, but again, we needed that hint of truth first. )

[Chalby]

On 7/2/2024 at 6:51 AM, sugarbaker design said:

That is the question of the day!

I believe Sandy goes by pictures on their Instagram page. I remember her complaining before about how a chef's dishes didn't look like the IG page. I am curious who really hires these people. Sandy loves to bring back her faves

[SG429]

23 hours ago, Shrek said:

There's a huge gap between reality & scripted. I don't think anybody has said it's not manipulated or the cast guided to go down a certain path

But the real creative "genius" of a reality series is all in the editing. That's where the story is crafted, after they have 48 hours of raw charter footage and 1-2 days of crew antics to create the much less than 60 minutes we see. That gives them quite a bit to work with to create a weekly plot line. I'm sure they could see the tv value of an engine failure, so the producers got on it with the talking heads, but, in the end, all the drama was created much later on.

[aghst]

The show often has these sit down convos.  I believe in these cases they have multiple cameras, one for each cast member.

We know that on other reality shows, they do multiple takes, to get the lines uttered and the way they're uttered just right.

Do the BD shows have something similar?

Then in all the talking heads, you know that the producers on the other side of the camera are asking questions or prompting the cast member to say certain things.

I don't think they just leave it to finding nuggets among dozens of hours of raw footage.

They are planning and making sure they record certain things said by the cast and also trying to make certain things happen, such as difficult picnic setups where they're lugging a lot of things long distances or uphill.

I also want to say that it seems beach picnics in the earlier seasons mostly went smoothly but in recent seasons, there are always issues.

[hatchetgirl]

On 7/2/2024 at 4:57 AM, Chatty Cake said:

Beep beep?

I'm thinking "vroooooom vrooooom" but beep beep works.  LOL  I know it would thank me by taking me for a fast ride up the coast... oh wait...  um - I SEE WHAT SHE DID THERE!!!  

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But that guest who complained that her steak was dry I don't buy that. 

That guest was drunk as shit and couldn't remember what the crew told her to say on camera.

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I watched only for Kate Chastain (I love her humor) 

OMG - i had NO clue!  I'm totally going to watch it now!

Poor Jono - I think he needs a little bit of imposter syndrome to humble him up...  lol

Edited July 8 by hatchetgirl

[mytmo]

I watch all these series with a substantial grain of salt and hand waiving.  Sure I believe Production works to create a situation and choose a cast that will act in the most entertaining manner possible if not over the top.  There is editing of course.  The boat and mechanics are real although I believe the shadow crew (or as we call them in our house the below below deck crew) really are the operators.  I go along with it and don't take what I view as gospel.  It's all just entertainment to me to not take seriously.

[65mickey]

On 7/4/2024 at 1:22 PM, iMonrey said:

On 7/4/2024 at 6:21 AM, Zaffy said:

 

So you never heard of Stacey Stillman. Interesting!

Who is Stacey Stillman? 

[Shrek]

34 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

Who is Stacey Stillman? 

Who? Apparently we're not up on the knowledge that we should be up on, oh dear how will we survive without knowing who she/he is.

[ZettaK]

9 minutes ago, Shrek said:

Who? Apparently we're not up on the knowledge that we should be up on, oh dear how will we survive without knowing who she/he is.

46 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

Who is Stacey Stillman? 

I didn't know, but I checked, and she was a contestant on the first season of Survivor who sued the show production for interference in the process of elimination (and probably more). She won a settlement. 

https://medium.com/a-tribe-of-one/the-stacey-stillman-case-a-deep-dive-caa7816a27a1

[65mickey]

Thanks for posting that account of the lawsuit. Now I remember Stacey getting voted off and being very bitter. Survivor Season 1 was and will always be the best season ever. 

[Juneau Gal]

I have been in a Starbucks inside of a grocery store and have not been able to get my mocha because the Starbucks was out of milk. Inside grocery store. Sometimes stores/places/ships have contracts with vendors that they must get their provisions from them and not from other vendors. Now why Sandy didn't go to a bar and ask to buy some bottles of wine from them, like she eventually did with the other yacht, THAT I call as producer driven.

[Baltimore Betty]

On 7/9/2024 at 7:27 PM, 65mickey said:

Thanks for posting that account of the lawsuit. Now I remember Stacey getting voted off and being very bitter. Survivor Season 1 was and will always be the best season ever. 

It was the only season I ever watched, I remember that guy Richard who decided he needed to be naked and a woman who was totally offended by that, she had short hair, sort of rough looking (of course everyone was looking a bit rough), and I remember when she had to leave the island...was that Stacey?

[gaPeach]

On 7/1/2024 at 11:11 PM, iMonrey said:

Team Bri all the way. Aesha was on Watch What Crappens and clarified that Ellie is not, in fact, Bri's supervisor. That's not a thing. 

This mean girl shit is tedious and juvenile, and I hate how the show seems to be leaning into this kind of thing lately instead of focusing on the food, service and guests the way they used to. 

Didn't Ellie and Bri have a conversation about Joe just last week where Ellie said she wasn't going to pursue Joe or anyone? She has no right to get all shirty about Bri going after him. And now she's bitching that Bri isn't sleeping in her cabin? You can't have it both ways. 

I am in the minority on this one.  I am not necessarily on Ellie's side, as I do not like how she is being petty with Bri about work.

Ellie did say something to the effect that she was going after Joe to Bri at the bar and reiterated it again to everyone in the car coming back from bar.  I have to give Ellie kudos for NOT hitting the hot tub and draping herself all over Joe, unlike Bri. Bri knew Ellis was intersted in Joe and if you watch the scene in hot tub they were on opposite sides of hot tub, when Bri just moves over on to Joe and kissed him and he went for it. 

Then Bri doubles down by telling everyone else, edited versions of what happened in cabin with Elie.  She let people think that Ellie kicked her out, but Ellie didn't.  Then she wanted to stay in the boy's cabin because she liked the attention and again it made Ellie look bad.  I am surprised she did it on Charter and only got a slap on the hand.  Now Bri is complaining that Ellie has been "talking down" to her when training her.  

Bri is a snake and not a good person.  Ellie is stuck up somewhat but if I had a Bri coming at me like that, I would want the truth to come out, I would not nitpick her at work though, not my style, but hey she asked for it, kind of.

 

[RoseAllDay]

Just caught the wedding…Sandy reading the vows from her phone.

How touching.