S13.E16: Diamond In The Rough

[QQQQ]

Sutton gets back in the saddle; Garcelle agrees to give her boys more freedom; Annemarie throws a blinged-out brunch; Crystal finally put their issues to bed; Kyle and Dorit question their friendship.

[Stats Queen]

I related to Sutton - if I had to show up at Annemarie’s house (or anywhere Annemarie might be), it would also be buzzed and carrying a roadie. 

[WaltersHair]

Once again, Kyle's pink Chanel is front and center during her conversation with Sutton. If you don't think there are editing shenanigans, watch the purse. It's up, it's down, it's up, it's down.

[Straycat80]

I liked Sutton’s date. He seemed nice. I like how he snorted when he laughed and admitted it. 
I’m no prude but why does Erika have to be so crass? And I hope the security guys are watching her around all that jewelry. 

[QQQQ]

Dorit missed an opportunity at the party to bring up her jewelry robberies/PTSD. 

[Straycat80]

I’m disappointed some of the ladies bowed down to Erika and apologized. Good for Garcelle for not, she is the only smart one. 
Next week looks rough, I can’t believe Kyle and Mo are letting something so personal be on TV. Their poor daughters. 

[Stats Queen]

Why is anyone apologizing to the viper Erika. This is seriously so messed up. Erika doesn’t deserve to be coddled, she does deserve to be ignored.

[Keywestclubkid]

trying to frame Erika in such a way on this platform to play the role of victim while the REAL victims in this are being swept aside like they don’t exist with this “therapist” is just pissing me off 

[Stats Queen]

Just now, Keywestclubkid said:

trying to frame Erika in such a way on this platform to play the role of victim while the REAL victims in this are being swept aside like they don’t exist with this “therapist” is just pissing me off 

Same it. It is so disgusting. She is a crap human being.

[Pi237]

What’s with this edit of Erika being wronged by everyone? And they actually Apologize to her. It’s making me sick.  Nice she can afford an ass-kissing therapist.  Sell your earrings grifter & maybe one of Tom’s victims could afford therapy for having to watch you flaunt your continued wealth while they struggle.

[Stats Queen]

This season was so much lighter. There were lots of fun moments between the housewives that had been sorely missing from the last two seasons.

[Pi237]

I also love how Kyle talks like she and Mau started from Nothing when her family was rich, they had insane contacts already well-established. Not many women are able to be so available to their kids because they’re working actual jobs…every day, all day, not just jaunting off to a movie set for a week here and there. Or meeting with staff about vanity projects where their “work” consists of criticizing the output of other people that they’ll just stamp their name on. 
 

So, now the kids are grown and Kyle’s bored and mad that Maurice has a job? Wow. Get over yourself. 
 

it’s got to be cheating & they agreed not to say it, right? The thing with “I won’t accept things I wouldn’t want my daughters to accept”. That doesn’t sound like ‘he works too nuch’

Edited February 15 by Pi237

[Straycat80]

14 minutes ago, Stats Queen said:

This season was so much lighter. There were lots of fun moments between the housewives that had been sorely missing from the last two seasons.

I agree and I think it’s because Rinna and Diana the willian are gone. 

[Stats Queen]

2 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

I agree and I think it’s because Rinna and Diana the willian are gone. 

Exactly!

[dbell1]

Editing monkeys hard at work with Kyle and Mo. Her beer was full, almost gone, half empty, full again. 

I’m with Sutton, if you’re going to be around those women, drink early and often.

Episode was boring. Negative 8.5 really needs to get off my tv.

[Pi237]

I’m with Sutton-where’s all the handrails?  Rich people just float up their stairs.🤣
 

Didn’t they rip Denise for having a diamond ice sculpture at her party? 

[QQQQ]

What exactly is Kyle complaining about? Sorry, but if she's still bitching about going to soccer games 15-20 later, she can STFU. Trying to gain sympathy (and a storyline) by donning the role of an overworked, underappreciated mom is pathetic. But we see the real you, Kyle. And the purses, vacations, jewelry, cars, mansions. Go work double shifts at KFC for a year and then tell us how overworked and underappreciated you are.

[Axie]

So are Crystal and Anthax friends now?  

[FlyingEgret]

11 minutes ago, Axie said:

So are Crystal and Anthax friends now?  

I am guessing nope; all Crystal's friends are 9.0 or higher

[KenyaJ]

I laughed so hard when Sutton clocked 8.5 for serving Korbel at the party. There's a $3.5 million dollar necklace in the room and you're serving Korbel? Gurl. Heather Dubrow would stroke out.

Good for Garcelle for standing by everything she said last season. She was 100% right and I'm so glad she didn't let Erika guilt or bully her into saying otherwise. 

[Keywestclubkid]

I love Garcelle and her I said what I said I had an opinion and I stand by it

 

 

[snarts]

Korbel? AnneMarue served Korbel? No wonder Sutton brought a roadie...

Anyone else think the other party guests came from.central casting? 

Erika demanding apologies because the ladies dared to question her complete lack of empathy & blatant disregard for for the actual victims was  completely on brand. Loved that Garcelle told her to fuck right off. 

[Keywestclubkid]

2 minutes ago, snarts said:

Korbel? AnneMarue served Korbel? No wonder Sutton brought a roadie...

Anyone else think the other party guests came from.central casting? 

Erika demanding apologies because the ladies dared to question her complete lack of empathy & blatant disregard for for the actual victims was  completely on brand. Loved that Garcelle told her to fuck right off. 

My tv therapist told me I was the real victim in all of this and YOU all owe me an apology 

 

then after Sutton gives her one … she literally acts like the apology’s weren’t good enough… lol like you can not win with this woman 

[WaltersHair]

Erika complained for three frickin episodes that her news was worth an apology from every woman. Hard no. She should be booed as hard as Sandoval was at his engagements.

[goofygirl]

1 hour ago, WaltersHair said:

Once again, Kyle's pink Chanel is front and center during her conversation with Sutton. If you don't think there are editing shenanigans, watch the purse. It's up, it's down, it's up, it's down.

But, but, but.... She had the GREEN BIRKIN on display at Annemarie's party! You didn't SEE it???

[BusyOctober]

That therapist is out of her ever loving fame-whoring mind.  Erika is not due any apologies from any of these women for behaving like a selfish, money grubbing, unsympathetic, soulless, vapid, vacant, shrew.  The therapist should have her license yanked as swiftly and as hard as I want to yank her platinum hair extensions out of her botoxed head.

I do not understand why any of the women aside from Garcelle feel the need to kowtow to that untalented twat.  Is Erika really that good of a friend to any of them?  Could they count on Erika to be present for any non-filmed events?  If they never met her outside of Erika being a coworker, would any of the other women seek her out for a real girlfriend? The answers are: Nope, Hell no, and NO F***ing way. 

Erika deserves the same amount of compassion, respect and support as she has shown the victims of her and her Crypt Keeper ex-husband’s decades long scamming and corruption.  How many fucks do I give about Erika and her residency and her goddamn earrings? ZERO!

 

 
 

 

 

[tranquilidade]

Watching Kyle and Mau,  Kyle is insufferably demanding. She has too control everything.  She is frustrated not being heard but wheat she means is she us frustrated not defining every narrative.  Mauricio should run.

[goofygirl]

Yep. Erika's "residency" was SOOO successful, they were asking $7.00/ticket before they shut it down early.

Great job.

[Salacious Kitty]

3 minutes ago, goofygirl said:

Yep. Erika's "residency" was SOOO successful, they were asking $7.00/ticket before they shut it down early.

Great job.

It wasn't shut down. It actually made it to its end date. With 7.00 tickets. 😂

[Pattycake2]

First off, Kyle remarking on Sutton‘s horse riding? When did Kyle become Queen of the West .  OK Kyle, Mauricio cheated on you. Get over it or get going. And I don’t think he ever held you back or limited you. After all, he didn’t mind a camera following for you three months of every year and earning a substantial salary or bringing your mother’s story to the screen.
This whole trying to clean up Erica‘s image is disgusting. Poor thing making her way back to fame and fortune. I remember sometime back when Erika was whining on WWHL about her reduced circumstances and Andy Cohen looked at her and said… I know how much we pay you. Ruth Madoff handed over just about everything and had to live with relatives. Not Erika, she still wants to pet her Puss annd screw the victims.

 Ann Marie is still boring, but Crystal looked very pretty with her hair up . So they are moving the white party to a football stadium with Kyle‘s name in giant letters. I’m appalled. 

[goofygirl]

The Umansky "white party" has just jumped the shark and turned into the Umansky "white shitshow".

There won't be any more white parties for them.

Maybe Kyle will have a "brown party" with Morgan from now on.

[WaltersHair]

58 minutes ago, goofygirl said:

But, but, but.... She had the GREEN BIRKIN on display at Annemarie's party! You didn't SEE it???

Oh, I saw it. The party planners saw it, the chefs, the wait staff, the camera people, sound people, paid guests, etc.  Gecko green is so subtle.

[bravofan27]

Oh, twist on theme this episode. "Letting go. New Chapter." Garcelle just now realizes her kids are growing up and she needs a life. Sutton realizes her ex husband (I was surprised that he lives down the street and they were close/there for each other) is actually her ex ex and is moving. She needs a life now.  And Kyle is letting go of Mo.

From my understanding, it's really a bad sign when someone who is sober because of a drinking problem starts drinking the fake stuff-- because they still have the psychological dependency on it. But I'm seeing Kyle as a huge mess this season-- she seems very unhappy and all over the place. She also looks tired and worn out a lot. Last-- because I feel like I'm picking on her, is I don't really believe the issues are with Mo. I do think they are having problems, but I feel the way they are playing it out on Bravo is an act. The "bar" scene was just that-- a heavily edited and produced scene-- Kyle's fake beer was full, then almost empty, then full, then half full again-- and the same shot of her taking a drink at least 3-times. I think the marital discourse storyline between her and Mo--  it's a compromise between the two-- Mo agreed to let Kyle control the narrative. It's not like this year Mo's business just picked up. He's been super busy the entire time this show was on and the girls were all little. 

Kyle's friend died and Kyle had a celebration. Next episode, Sutton is celebrating her friend who died. Last episode Erika showed up hammered to an event and had a great time. This episode, SUTTON shows up at an event super hammered. I think the producers are lazy and just recycling the same storylines. It's like a sitcom where the writers run out of new things for the characters to go through. Not complaining though-- it's way better than when the trouble-makers were running the storylines.

Erika's therapist is a TV therapist, so I'm pretty sure she is on contract with Bravo or something similar to that. She had a reality TV show for years on VH1 and runs all the media circuits. I think her scenes with Erika are 100% produced by the writers on the show, BASED on real therapy that Erika is in/been in with her real therapist.

 

Edited February 15 by bravofan27

[swankie]

Erika is a classless slimeball! 

<rant over>

[SemiCharmedLife]

3 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

This season was so much lighter. There were lots of fun moments between the housewives that had been sorely missing from the last two seasons.

The Faux Farce 5 and its remnants were not busy bullying people off the show this season. They live for making the more popular housewives miserable.  I'm so glad the cast is more evened out now and Rinna is gone.

[Mar]

Oh, thanks for educating me Anne Marie… so if someone screams at me and says nasty things to me, it’s not anger – it’s just passion. So good to know!

Oh, and thank you Erika for always bringing the vulgarity to every episode. What would we do without you! Honestly, I would just love to get through one episode without it.

[hoodooznoodooz]

“And continue to do the growth work that you’ve been doing”?!?!?

[hoodooznoodooz]

Should Kyle be letting her dog chew on that yellow thing?

[hoodooznoodooz]

Mau said, “We’re about to be empty nesters.” Not we are empty nesters.

[SemiCharmedLife]

I just love this forum!  I came here to post about how upsetting it was to see everyone but Garcelle apologize to Erika, even though they have nothing to apologize for and her behavior warranted many more apologies.  And, it was great to see many others with the same thoughts!  Erika has a lot of nerve complaining that the other housewives aren't taking responsibility for their actions--- really???

[dancingdreamer]

I love Sutton's  horse, what a beauty.  Kyle, she rides just fine, you just walk like you've ridden  one.I liked Sutton's  date, and the fact they just hung out and played darts.

The next scene  with Mo and Kyle  was just awkward, the crickets  were so loud, I had to mute them.

Erika expected  an apology  from everyone,  why? Wasn't  it proven  Tom didn't  have dementia,  and she must have played her part. I'm glad Garcelle  didn't  back down. Crystal didn't  say anything  did she? I also liked Crystals  hair.

I didn't  care for what Dorit wore, she's  certainly dresses  differently  now. My love, Bubba, gawd those names drive me crazy.

[hoodooznoodooz]

Sutton is too nice. She shouldn’t have apologized. 
 

When we learned what Tom did, and realized how Erika had been spending the money that belonged to a burn victim and widows and orphans, we all immediately felt compassion for the victims. Erika believes we all should have felt compassion for her. 
 

She is the nastiest creature I have ever seen on my TV.

[hoodooznoodooz]

Whoever does Erika’s eyebrows hates her as much as we do.

[hoodooznoodooz]

Babe, in England, we don’t really make a big deal over Mother’s Day. 
 

The next time Dorit brings up her PTSD, I want PK to say, Babe, in England, we don’t really indulge ourselves in PTSD.

[hoodooznoodooz]

Korbel?!?

[Baltimore Betty]

3 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Korbel?!?

Proving AM is just a basic bitch...her house is very nice though. 

Korbel, I don't even drink that swill, lol.  

7 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

“And continue to do the growth work that you’ve been doing”?!?!?

Psychobabble. It sounds like he is trying talk like the therapist, see he is listening to what is being said in therapy, lol.

10 hours ago, WaltersHair said:

Once again, Kyle's pink Chanel is front and center during her conversation with Sutton. If you don't think there are editing shenanigans, watch the purse. It's up, it's down, it's up, it's down.

I want the job as purse editor.

I refuse to believe for one minute that Mo is scheduling showings or anything other than the business of his business, meeting with lawyers, investors, etc...yes but showing a house, nah, he has offices full of those people that do the showings no matter how expensive the property is, unless there is a film crew at that house Mo is not showing a house.

Didn't Kyle just have Portia's Bat Mitzvah? How can they say they are about to be empty nesters? There are many more years to come with Portia under their roof in addition to any of their college going girls, there are lot's of spring breaks, winter breaks, and random weekends those girls will be home. Those two should be happy to kids at home to act as buffers because when they are all gone, Kyle and Mo will have nothing to talk about.

I was disappointed to see Sutton riding western, she struck me as an English rider, that horse looked like it was born for dressage and hunter jumper trials, gorgeous horse but hysterical Sutton could not pick him out of a crowd of one, she has a painted and she was looking at a bay thinking that was her horse. (End of horse talk from me, I promise).

Sutton's date sure was eager to book dates with her, I hope she felt good about that positive attention, they had fun playing darts and drinking beer, she didn't talk about any of her ills at all! 

Erika really is a piece of work, she wants apologies for her shitty behavior, I am in awe of her balls.

Garcelle never disappoints, her standing by what she thought and said and still feels about Erika is why she won that scene. 

Sutton apologized just to distance herself from being in Erika's cross hairs, I sort of don't blame her, to avoid getting caught up in Erika's "Mad not Mad Tour," is  worth it.

Crystal looked so pretty at AM's party. That is all I got for Crystal.

 

[BusyOctober]

They actually go through with the White Party? What a complete farce.  At first when I saw Kyle in the white gown, I thought “Oh, for fucks sake, are these two doing a ‘renewal ceremony’??? AKA  Bravo’s public airing of the official death of a RH marriage.

Having Erika as the “entertainment” is an awful thing to do to your guests. But maybe the audience is just the RHOBH crew and Erika’s “Residency” roadies (Mikey and “I’m not a real therapist but I play one on tv” Jen).

[Baltimore Betty]

1 hour ago, BusyOctober said:

Having Erika as the “entertainment” is an awful thing to do to your guests. But maybe the audience is just the RHOBH crew and Erika’s “Residency” roadies (Mikey and “I’m not a real therapist but I play one on tv” Jen).

All that because Boy George was busy? LOL.

Kyle rents a stadium for her white party? Sure Kyle, enjoy the fact you can rent a stadium because your husband works a lot but also get mad at your husband for working a lot. 

 

[Keywestclubkid]

21 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

All that because Boy George was busy? LOL.

Kyle rents a stadium for her white party? Sure Kyle, enjoy the fact you can rent a stadium because your husband works a lot but also get mad at your husband for working a lot. 

 

I knew him he had NOTHING .. Girl you both had nothing ...

[Pi237]

Wasn’t Maurice in his own real estate reality show for Agency-Buying Beverly Hills? Is that still filming? Maybe Kyle’s mad that he was doing his own show & she wasn’t the star.  I’m just not buying this narrative that she’s been feeling neglected for a while. Seems to have come out of nowhere. Had to be cheating. Not looking forward to seeing their kids in tears next week. I wouldn’t allow my kids to be filmed like that.