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Gizelle has a new love interest, Ashley has a new house and Mia has a new lifestyle; rumors of Juan’s alleged infidelity return, but he stands firm on his innocence; with Robyn remaining by his side, Gizelle has no choice but to confront her BFF.

Airdate: 11.05.2023

Reminder: real time events are spoilers until they happen in episode time.  Please continue to discuss those events in the relevant housewife's or media thread.

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This is the most awkward shit I've ever seen. They're really going to spend the first 15 minutes of this damn show with the Dixons "explaining" and pushing their own narrative.

Dear Robyn,

I don't care what you believe, baby. You ain't gonna get me to co-sign your desperation, blindness, and foolishness. Juan ain't stretching me out or taking me to get my nails done.

Signed,

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I agree with Auntie Kern and them. Are Juan and Robyn LEGALLY married? Anyone can have a ceremony performed. The marriage isn't considered legal unless the paperwork if filed.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I know we got a few attorneys, paralegals, and law clerks in these Primetimer streets.

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Starting the season with 5 minutes of bullshit from Robyn and Juan was... a choice. I hope this doesn't mean that we're going to spend the whole season on this subject because this is the most boring "scandal" ever. Like, extra extra, man known for cheating cheats again, doormat partner looks the other way like she always does. Yawn.

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7 minutes ago, Steph J said:

Starting the season with 5 minutes of bullshit from Robyn and Juan was... a choice. I hope this doesn't mean that we're going to spend the whole season on this subject because this is the most boring "scandal" ever. Like, extra extra, man known for cheating cheats again, doormat partner looks the other way like she always does. Yawn.

It is the most boring scandal, mainly because it is old news. 

I did love the opening with ”Potomac Proper”. These producers crack me up.

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6 minutes ago, Stats Queen said:

It is the most boring scandal, mainly because it is old news. 

I did love the opening with ”Potomac Proper”. These producers crack me up.

This is the second season where we can see the Potomac producers earning their coins. They're not even pretending anymore, and I love it!

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Well, that was disappointing.  I was just straight up bored.  If Juan’s roommate wants to waste her life with someone who does nothing but use her, have at it.  Yawn.

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"I don't have anything to say right now." Thanks for coming out Charrisse. A+ contribution as ever.

Also, lol at Giselle pretending that it's just Ashley and Charisse who can understand Robyn's situation from experience.

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2 minutes ago, Steph J said:

"I don't have anything to say right now." Thanks for coming out Charrisse. A+ contribution as ever.

Also, lol at Giselle pretending that it's just Ashley and Charisse who can understand Robyn's situation from experience.

Giselle has no room to talk since she also went back to a cheater.

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Did everyone get a new glam team this year? Or is my HD just tripping? Everyone at that last meeting -- Gizelle, Charrisse, Robyn, and Ashley -- all were casket fresh. Their makeup looked chalky. I was actually distracted and thought I was seeing things. Then they showed old clips from years previous, and I realized I was not seeing things. Phaedra Parks is doing their makeup.

Speaking of ... and a bit off-topic since I keep seeing these commercials. Who here watches Married to Medicine? Is this show worth watching? I almost feel like Phaedra started dating a doctor JUST to get back on TV. Y'all know Kandi is blocking her ass from the ATL.

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10 minutes ago, eXiled said:

Speaking of ... and a bit off-topic since I keep seeing these commercials. Who here watches Married to Medicine? Is this show worth watching? I almost feel like Phaedra started dating a doctor JUST to get back on TV. Y'all know Kandi is blocking her ass from the ATL.

I watch Married to Medicine. It is a good show, especially for the first few seasons. There is a lot of focus and scenes with the husbands -and a focus on what they actually do in medicine. The last couple of seasons have focused on stupid petty drama (n true Bravo fashion).

so not thrilled with Phaedra joining the cast. I, too, think she is dating a doctor to get back on TV. 

Phaedra accused someone of trying to drug  someone with plans to sexual assault the person. I don’t care how witty she is, that is just horrible and she never apologized but then is big on God and saying prayers.

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1 minute ago, Stats Queen said:

I watch Married to Medicine. It is a good show, especially for the first few seasons. There is a lot of focus and scenes with the husbands -and a focus on what they actually do in medicine. The last couple of seasons have focused on stupid petty drama (n true Bravo fashion).

so not thrilled with Phaedra joining the cast. I, too, think she is dating a doctor to get back on TV. 

Phaedra accused someone of trying to drug  someone with plans to sexual assault the person. I don’t care how witty she is, that is just horrible and she never apologized but then is big on God and saying prayers.

Thanks for the info. I never liked Phaedra on RHOA (from the moment she claimed to not know her own due date, I knew she was full of shit) but I will admit to enjoying her short stint on RHUGT. Despite that, I've always seen her as a sneaky, vile hustler.

I think I'll catch highlights on Youtube. I never watched MTM because the idea of watching professionals wrassling on my TV is not appealing. I understand why the chicks on the come-up do it (they're trying to catch a man or finance their wig shop, home goods biz, or clothing store). But people who attended medical school? No ma'am.

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Maybe what her friends are trying to tell Robin is that it’s time to get off this show. Since the moment she came in it’s been one cringeworthy issue or another with her. The cheating, the unpaid taxes, the failed businesses. I don’t know what that girl is trying to prove but she just embarrasses herself season after season. Her poor sons. A piece of shit man for a father teaching them how to disrespect women, and a shitty mother teaching them that being a doormat to someone who disrespects you is always the better way to go. At this point I’m convinced that they are so far in the hole financially that they have to stay together because if not their kids will be homeless. 
 

And I cannot listen to anymore of Candiace’s angry grinch of a husband. Man’s got issues and needs to realize if he wants a recurring role as a HW he’s gotta take the shit that comes with it. If not, slither back into the shadows and mind your business. Get over it already. Nobody cares anymore. 

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1 hour ago, eXiled said:

Who here watches Married to Medicine?

This is off topic:

I do not watch but I am familiar with some of the cast just by seeing the commercials, my son and DIL were traveling thru Italy in May and were at a restaurant where the cast were at a big table, he took photos and I recognized some of the husbands.

Pheadra sucks.

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If Robyn isn’t in an open relationship then she’s the dumbest bitch ever. Juan is such a damn liar with that story. Then he uses the textbook she was ugly I wouldn’t cheat with her. Cheater fucking playbook lol. The pathetic scene with them explaining/lying at the beginning lol.

Idk about Wendy.

Ashley and Michael are still married and he’s prob still bankrolling her because he has shady money.

Ashley complaining but has a full time nanny and doesn’t even really work? Pls.

Gizelle and Jason are so fake. She’s subjecting her kids to this fake ass storyline. Jason coming across famewhore desperate.

Mia and Gordon are such damn liars too. Do these ppl this we are stupid.

I feel like Charisse knows things about Juan and Robyn but won’t say them.

Not a fan of Robyn’s extensions.

Juan has convinced Robyn again it’s them against the world and it’s some pile on. Robyn is just ridiculous. No one is buying their shit lol.

Hopefully Charisse brings it more this season. So far not bad.

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The beginning with Robin and Juan doing a recap with excuses of his latest (known) cheating scandals was painful to watch.  Not just because they both look like idiots (Juan for his moronic excuses and Robin for accepting them - at least outwardly) but their “acting” was terrible.

R:  “Hey Juan how about scandal 1, that’s some bullshit right?”

J:  ”Oh yeah I’m just too nice.”

R:  ”Yeah, it’s too stupid and unbelievable to not be true!”

Etc etc lather rinse repeat 🙄

 

11 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

This is off topic:

I do not watch but I am familiar with some of the cast just by seeing the commercials, my son and DIL were traveling thru Italy in May and were at a restaurant where the cast were at a big table, he took photos and I recognized some of the husbands.

Pheadra sucks.

Can u share some of the pics😃😁

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What does Gizelle's young'un do besides reality TV? If it's good for her, it's great for me. I just don't want to see her crying on my television again if things don't work out. That shit with Sherman was tragic. I believe her reunion with Jamal was just a storyline. I ain't averse to her finding real love. I'm just not sure it should be on TV. As usual, I loved seeing her lovely daughters.

Ashley and Michael are not divorcing. They've simply agreed to live separate lives so that when we see/read about him stalking a Washington Wizards point guard, or having his pockets run by a pro, or drunkenly grabbing some balls, Ashley can save face.

Hell, the man is probably still licking his wounds regarding the Robyn/Juan nuptials. Mr. Darby and I BOTH swore that wedding would never happen. The Dixons made liars out of us, and I'm just beside myself. I'm still recovering. I know in my heart Michael's soul got snatched.

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1 hour ago, eXiled said:

Thanks for the info. I never liked Phaedra on RHOA (from the moment she claimed to not know her own due date, I knew she was full of shit) but I will admit to enjoying her short stint on RHUGT. Despite that, I've always seen her as a sneaky, vile hustler.

I think I'll catch highlights on Youtube. I never watched MTM because the idea of watching professionals wrassling on my TV is not appealing. I understand why the chicks on the come-up do it (they're trying to catch a man or finance their wig shop, home goods biz, or clothing store). But people who attended medical school? No ma'am.

I thought the first 3 seasons were great and would recommend a full watch.

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Marylander here. It seems to me that when we were discussing Juan going to the hotel to pay his hooker last season , we realized that since it was during the pandemic, he wouldn’t have been allowed to just walk into the hotel and pay the bill because of all the restrictions.  Does anyone remember that? I need to do some digging because I’m sure there was a pandemic related reason that his explanation was impossible.

Now I remember part of it - the casinos were not open during the pandemic. Also Juan?  There was a lot more involved in your firing than just losing games.

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18 hours ago, eXiled said:

I agree with Auntie Kern and them. Are Juan and Robyn LEGALLY married? Anyone can have a ceremony performed. The marriage isn't considered legal unless the paperwork if filed.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I know we got a few attorneys, paralegals, and law clerks in these Primetimer streets.

You need a marriage license which normally expires soon enough (it depends on the state- it's 60 days in Florida) if not used, and paperwork (marriage certificate) has to be filed at a courthouse after a ceremony in order for a marriage to be valid. 

17 hours ago, eXiled said:

Did everyone get a new glam team this year? Or is my HD just tripping? Everyone at that last meeting -- Gizelle, Charrisse, Robyn, and Ashley -- all were casket fresh. Their makeup looked chalky. I was actually distracted and thought I was seeing things. Then they showed old clips from years previous, and I realized I was not seeing things. Phaedra Parks is doing their makeup.

Speaking of ... and a bit off-topic since I keep seeing these commercials. Who here watches Married to Medicine? Is this show worth watching? I almost feel like Phaedra started dating a doctor JUST to get back on TV. Y'all know Kandi is blocking her ass from the ATL.

I watch Married to Medicine. It used to be interesting. The last season, not so much. 

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Robyn said it: I don't care (if he cheats). I'm numb.

And she will take the humiliation of having conversations with Juan on tv about his cheating (which is not cheating according to him) because he was fired, and they need the Bravo paycheck. How awkward, and unconvincing these exchanges were. 

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5 hours ago, eXiled said:

I agree with Auntie Kern and them. Are Juan and Robyn LEGALLY married? Anyone can have a ceremony performed. The marriage isn't considered legal unless the paperwork if filed.

Maryland marriage license law states you have to get married where you took out the license. PEOPLE magazine reported they took out a license at the Howard County courthouse in August 2022; they live in Howard County.

But on TV they got married on Frank Sobotka's dock somewhere in Baltimore County (allegedly in September 2022) so unless they had the actual marriage ceremony somewhere in Howard County, the Baltimore County ceremony isn't legal (unless they got married in Howard). Karen openly wondering this makes me wonder if she and other cast members think Robyn has a Brandy style spiritual marriage (and not an actual legal one).

If there was ever a time for Monique and her binder, this would be the time.

Mia going to a 1500 sq ft rental with 3 kids is tragic.  I have more space than that.

Gizelle needs to fix her driveway. It's a hazard.

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Well I'm in Canada,  and would never go near Juan. lol I'm in the clear, and those two are boring. 

I have always  liked Giselle ,she'd be fun to hang with.

I did like Ashley's house, and how she painted it.

Karen's curly wig looked bad, so did Mia's in her TH. I really expected  more.

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Sounds like the marriage is open for Juan and not Robyn. By the way Robyn, it’s Juan that stole your joy. Not the woman from Canada, not Coach Brie and not the person who took the photos. Juan is getting caught going out on dates but it’s everyone else’s fault.

Gizelle doesn’t need to make their story about her but I’d rather see that than her dancing around that kid in her kitchen. I know there’s nothing wrong with an older lady and younger man but I found the two of them cringeworthy. Also not seeing each other for weeks but able to find time to connect when the cameras are there was a bit convenient.

 

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9 hours ago, JohnnyU said:

The beginning with Robin and Juan doing a recap with excuses of his latest (known) cheating scandals was painful to watch.  Not just because they both look like idiots (Juan for his moronic excuses and Robin for accepting them - at least outwardly) but their “acting” was terrible.

R:  “Hey Juan how about scandal 1, that’s some bullshit right?”

J:  ”Oh yeah I’m just too nice.”

R:  ”Yeah, it’s too stupid and unbelievable to not be true!”

Etc etc lather rinse repeat 🙄

 

Can u share some of the pics😃😁

I wish I could but that phone was stolen (at a DSW, it is a crazy story and way off topic), I will see if I can get him to resend them to me and I will post.

8 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

Marylander here. It seems to me that when we were discussing Juan going to the hotel to pay his hooker last season , we realized that since it was during the pandemic, he wouldn’t have been allowed to just walk into the hotel and pay the bill because of all the restrictions.  Does anyone remember that? I need to do some digging because I’m sure there was a pandemic related reason that his explanation was impossible.

Now I remember part of it - the casinos were not open during the pandemic. Also Juan?  There was a lot more involved in your firing than just losing games.

I was trying to remember those same things, was the hooker at the Arundel Mills or the downtown casino? Even if he did just pay because he is a nice guy, he did not have to go up to the room. 

Robyn, if it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, and walks like a duck...it is a duck.

If those two have truly worked out the cheating issues and decided to move past it all then why the hell does she keep bringing it up, she is not over it but it does make for a good story line and keeps Juan relevant.  I doubt their therapist considers them "healed."

 

 

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1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I wish I could but that phone was stolen (at a DSW, it is a crazy story and way off topic), I will see if I can get him to resend them to me and I will post. [SNIP]

Well damn if this doesn't sound more interesting than the show itself, Betty.

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12 hours ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

Seriously, the level of humiliation and degradation she is willing to go through to try to keep this family together when this man is a chronic infidel who does not give one fuck about her feelings, is wild.  

I've been wondering in general, why none of the HWs have chosen the tactic of saying "My husband and I have an understanding. It's not up for discussion - next topic." Robyn would at least sound less crazy. But then again, maybe that would just paint a target on ole' Juan. Frankly, I don't understand why, if you are targeting a married dude to be a side piece for, you'd choose a guy who is mediocre at everything in life. Because he's just going to be mediocre at juggling you as well.

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13 minutes ago, Rlb8031 said:

if you are targeting a married dude to be a side piece for, you'd choose a guy who is mediocre at everything in life. Because he's just going to be mediocre at juggling you as well.

Well the Raven's player wouldn't even pay the hotel bill so Juan is an easy mark...he pays for manicures and foots the bill at the Fluff and Fold too!

And if I were Robyn I'd be effing pissed if I knew my philandering husband was paying for stuff for other women, I mean it's not like it's his money. 

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21 minutes ago, Rlb8031 said:

I've been wondering in general, why none of the HWs have chosen the tactic of saying "My husband and I have an understanding. It's not up for discussion - next topic." Robyn would at least sound less crazy. But then again, maybe that would just paint a target on ole' Juan. Frankly, I don't understand why, if you are targeting a married dude to be a side piece for, you'd choose a guy who is mediocre at everything in life. Because he's just going to be mediocre at juggling you as well.

Sounds like a good way to proceed in order to maintain some dignity and good mental health. That's what I'd do in a similar situation. Unfortunately, with the Housewives franchise, these women are fighting to maintain position. If the producers (and fans) decide you're not delivering, you'll be tossed out. If they all became eloquent and began shutting down this type of questioning, 75 percent of the show's subject matter would be flushed away....

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I think my favorite part of this episode was Robyn trying to convince herself that the Juan hotel story was so nuts that it just had to be true and then they show us the Ashley story that was even more ridiculous with Michael going to the hotel room and just lying down not sleeping with the lady and she took a picture of him in his underwear. But he didn't do anything with her, honest!!! They had a cut of Robyn's face of disbelief after Ashley spouted that web of lies.

Oh, Robyn, this is the same story!!  What a dumb, dumb.

It also made me sad that all 4 of those women had stories so alike. Where are they finding these men?

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I think it’s too late for Robin to maintain any sense of dignity.  I would also advise any girls or young ladies to never get involved with her sons in the future because I’m sure they’ve been taught their father’s absolute disrespect for women.  My feeling is that Juan just uses women but doesn’t actually like them at all.  He definitely thinks they’re inferior to men.

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Robyn's response to Charisse saying she's being defensive: "I'm not being defensive. I think I'm not saying stuff that you all want to hear."

It's actually quite the opposite Robyn. YOU aren't wanting to HEAR what they have to say. 

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5 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I was trying to remember those same things, was the hooker at the Arundel Mills or the downtown casino?

It was Maryland Live! ---Juan and Robyn live 15 minutes away from there.

2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Well the Raven's player wouldn't even pay the hotel bill so Juan is an easy mark...he pays for manicures and foots the bill at the Fluff and Fold too!

The laundromat story is stupid because Robyn has stated on the 2 Broke Girls Podcast (h/t Candiace) that she had to have her laundry room specially wired in the new house to accommodate the multiple washers and dryers because Juan would bring the team's uniforms home to wash. So if you've spent all this money buying multiple washers and dryers for your house, why was Juan taking the team uniforms to the laundromat with Bree?

1 hour ago, gwen747 said:

Robyn's response to Charisse saying she's being defensive: "I'm not being defensive. I think I'm not saying stuff that you all want to hear."

Of the three, I think Robyn would be the most receptive to Charrisse because they are real friends off screen and they've known each other the longest.

Robyn doesn't want to take responsibility and admit she's made a mistake because that would call into question all of the decisions she's made since 1996. It's in her mental health's best interests to blame the blogs, Wendy, Candiace, etc.

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4 hours ago, Rlb8031 said:

Frankly, I don't understand why, if you are targeting a married dude to be a side piece for, you'd choose a guy who is mediocre at everything in life. Because he's just going to be mediocre at juggling you as well.

Not everybody can go after a top target? 

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11 hours ago, drivethroo said:

Maryland marriage license law states you have to get married where you took out the license. PEOPLE magazine reported they took out a license at the Howard County courthouse in August 2022; they live in Howard County.

But on TV they got married on Frank Sobotka's dock somewhere in Baltimore County (allegedly in September 2022) so unless they had the actual marriage ceremony somewhere in Howard County, the Baltimore County ceremony isn't legal (unless they got married in Howard). Karen openly wondering this makes me wonder if she and other cast members think Robyn has a Brandy style spiritual marriage (and not an actual legal one).

If there was ever a time for Monique and her binder, this would be the time.

Mia going to a 1500 sq ft rental with 3 kids is tragic.  I have more space than that.

Gizelle needs to fix her driveway. It's a hazard.

I'm took.  ROTFLMAO!!!!!! 

6 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I wish I could but that phone was stolen (at a DSW, it is a crazy story and way off topic), I will see if I can get him to resend them to me and I will post.

I was trying to remember those same things, was the hooker at the Arundel Mills or the downtown casino? Even if he did just pay because he is a nice guy, he did not have to go up to the room. 

Robyn, if it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, and walks like a duck...it is a duck.

If those two have truly worked out the cheating issues and decided to move past it all then why the hell does she keep bringing it up, she is not over it but it does make for a good story line and keeps Juan relevant.  I doubt their therapist considers them "healed."

 

 

I mean it could be a goose, respectfully, their quacks sound similar.  Who's to say what their walks look like, have you ever really paid attention to a goose's walk? You don't even really know IF the goose can walk, you've never even seen his feet up close like that!   Robyn see how dumb words sound when you just spit em out all random and shit? 

my delivery's gonna sound shitty but I don't mean it:   cause he keeps cheating.   The story she told in her own defense about telling him to get the fuck out?  then, because they know her, her friends were like:  well did he leave? and she let out a giggle and said no.   I didn't know whether to giggle with her or spike-lee-hands-up the whole situation.  All I got is what gets said when you find out the prom queen's been strung out since high school:  pretty girl, damb shame.  

3 hours ago, HelloDolly79 said:

I don't normally like seeing HW Spawn on my TV, but can I just say Dean and Dylan were the highlight of the episode. So adorable.

Handbasket's pulling up so I'll make it quick.   Thankfully they've grown into their faces, cause, ::smoothsskirt:: well.  We didn't know which way this was finna go.  

2 hours ago, Arynm said:

I think my favorite part of this episode was Robyn trying to convince herself that the Juan hotel story was so nuts that it just had to be true and then they show us the Ashley story that was even more ridiculous with Michael going to the hotel room and just lying down not sleeping with the lady and she took a picture of him in his underwear. But he didn't do anything with her, honest!!! They had a cut of Robyn's face of disbelief after Ashley spouted that web of lies.

Oh, Robyn, this is the same story!!  What a dumb, dumb.

It also made me sad that all 4 of those women had stories so alike. Where are they finding these men?

On the sales floor baby, ain't no other ones in the back.  All God has, are the ones that are *out*.

 

OT: is anybody having trouble getting the gifs file to load?  I can't see naan one of em. 

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1 hour ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

 

Handbasket's pulling up so I'll make it quick.   Thankfully they've grown into their faces, cause, ::smoothsskirt:: well.  We didn't know which way this was finna go.  

 

Yeah, especially little Durante.

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2 hours ago, drivethroo said:

The laundromat story is stupid because Robyn has stated on the 2 Broke Girls Podcast (h/t Candiace) that she had to have her laundry room specially wired in the new house to accommodate the multiple washers and dryers because Juan would bring the team's uniforms home to wash. So if you've spent all this money buying multiple washers and dryers for your house, why was Juan taking the team uniforms to the laundromat with Bree?

I had no idea about the washers/dryers in their home...why is Juan bringing home the team uniforms, I would have thought the school would be equipped to wash team uniforms, towels, etc...Also, if Juan was a head coach why is he doing the laundry?

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4 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I had no idea about the washers/dryers in their home...why is Juan bringing home the team uniforms, I would have thought the school would be equipped to wash team uniforms, towels, etc...Also, if Juan was a head coach why is he doing the laundry?

Coppin State is plenty big enough to have student assistants doing laundry on campus. There is absolutely no scenario that explains Juan in a laundromat with an assistant coach doing laundry. None. 

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