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That's not actually what happened, though. Shannon told Tamra about the e-mail off-camera (in private) and it was Tamra who told Heather about it (on camera), who then blabbed to her friends, and then Shannon got the text from her husband about it on camera. If Tamra hadn't blabbed about it, the e-mail (as far as we know) would never have been brought up.

It would have been brought up because Shannon was constantly telling anyone willing to listen how bad her marriage was. Do you honestly think that the only person Shannon told about the divorce e-mail was Tamra? A woman she barely knew and was on a realty show with? It defies logic. 

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I don't even get the need for them -- the woven in ones.  They always look terrible.  You could see the weave straight out with Yolanda.  And I'm assuming these people get the best of the best.  

All that addition of hair probably works best if you are in a situation with a stylist at your beck and call. Like an actress on set, model at photo shoot, media interviews, red carpet or maybe a bride.

 

I was at a Tonight Show taping with Johnny Carson and his guest was Angie Dickinson (dating myself here but I was really young) her hairdresser was hiding behind the couch and touched up her hair at every break. That's what extensions need!

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It would have been brought up because Shannon was constantly telling anyone willing to listen how bad her marriage was. Do you honestly think that the only person Shannon told about the divorce e-mail was Tamra? A woman she barely knew and was on a realty show with? It defies logic. 

Well, since she only told people off camera, it's hard to tell if she was telling "anyone willing to listen".  The fact is that she told Tamara off camera. Had she wanted it broadcast, she could have easily mentioned it on camera.  I'm not clear on how Shannon telling someone off camera absolves Heather from spreading gossip. Or, for that matter, how that puts Shannon in the wrong for wanting to find out how Heather knew about it.

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My theory is that the Housewives shows are modern day morality plays....this particular one titled:  How to Know Who to Trust and Why.

 

Well, since she only told people off camera, it's hard to tell if she was telling "anyone willing to listen".  The fact is that she told Tamara off camera. Had she wanted it broadcast, she could have easily mentioned it on camera.  I'm not clear on how Shannon telling someone off camera absolves Heather from spreading gossip. Or, for that matter, how that puts Shannon in the wrong for wanting to find out how Heather knew about it.

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Favorite moment so far...as Heather explains a Shannon moment...Shannon waves her arms around: "Is that this?"

 

Yes!  I thought that was hilarious!  Shannon, despite her kooky holistic stuff, comes off as very normal and down to earth.  Some of her responses are very funny.

Favorite moment so far...as Heather explains a Shannon moment...Shannon waves her arms around: "Is that this?"

 

Yes!  I thought that was hilarious!  Shannon, despite her kooky holistic stuff, comes off as very normal and down to earth.  Some of her responses are very funny.

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It would have been brought up because Shannon was constantly telling anyone willing to listen how bad her marriage was. Do you honestly think that the only person Shannon told about the divorce e-mail was Tamra? A woman she barely knew and was on a realty show with? It defies logic. 

 

Yes, I personally do believe that. I don't think of Shannon as a liar, so I trust her version of the events. She and Tamra were becoming very close very quickly, so it all makes sense to me. That is why Shannon felt particularly betrayed by it.

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It would have been brought up because Shannon was constantly telling anyone willing to listen how bad her marriage was. Do you honestly think that the only person Shannon told about the divorce e-mail was Tamra? A woman she barely knew and was on a realty show with? It defies logic. 

Well it doesn't defy logic, Tamra admitted to telling Heather and Heather admitted to telling a group of people.  David knew the women who was at the lunch with Heather and she told David. it wasn't a divorce e-mail-it was a David wanting move out for awhile, e-mail.  Since it was resolved shortly after being sent 12-24 hours, according to David, I think the one doing the exaggerating was Tamra.

 

I think this Shannon telling anyone who would listen how bad her marriage was is a bit of an exaggeration.  I recall Shannon telling Vicki, Tamra and Heather that she wished her husband would initiate a trip for just the two of them. Heather was the one in a confessional how incredibly personal the information was around people she had just met.  There was a bit of bickering, in the kitchen, at the dinner party at David and Shannon's but no out and out complaints about how bad her marriage was until she confided in Tamra.  Tamra was the one pushing how bad the marriage was .   Tamra was the one pushing drunk Shannon, sad soul Shannon and how Shannon was just like her before she demanded a divorce from Simon.

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Favorite moment so far...as Heather explains a Shannon moment...Shannon waves her arms around: "Is that this?"

Loved this!  Stopped Heather's speech for a second. 

 

I also remember when Heather was talking privately with Tamara about Shannon (a few weeks back) and when Heather was telling her what Shannon said she made a quirky face in imitation of Shannon and broke Tamara up.  I have to admit I laughed at that, it was a good caricature of Shannon (who I like).  Heather stopped what she was saying and watched Tamara laugh.  I think she thought she'd do that again on the reunion show and be Cute and Funny, but in my opinion it failed because she was speaking too quickly and was upset trying to tell Shannon off in a polite for the camera's sake way.  Her face just looked silly and no one even snickered.  Except me, at her, and it was more of a smirk.

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I just watched the clip of part 2, Vicki calls Tamra "bitter, bitter, bitter!"

I can't wait.

Vicki even took a poll of the other ladies and they agreed, Ha!

Where?  On the Bravo site?  I want to see "bitter, bitter, bitter!" 

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Where?  On the Bravo site?  I want to see "bitter, bitter, bitter!" 

Have you seen the clip where Vicki does the shaking motion with her hands while staring at Tamra and says, "There. Gloves are off."?  So good.

Should be quite a spectacle.

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Oh, I'll go check it out. 

 

Simon's FB page is full of pictures of him with his kids in Florida.  No wonder Tamballs shut down her FB page.  He's posting up a storm.

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I was at a Tonight Show taping with Johnny Carson and his guest was Angie Dickinson (dating myself here but I was really young) her hairdresser was hiding behind the couch and touched up her hair at every break. That's what extensions need!

 

Oh no, really?  I thought it was all natural for Angie baby.  Drats, how disappointing.  Yet another icon's secrets uncovered, eh?  Anyhoo, didn't Alexis have one of her "pocket gays", or whatever she called her hanger-on/assistant, follow her around, touching her hair up?  Surprised Heather doesn't have one of those.  Er, btw, saw commercial for David Tutera's show on WE & Alexis is gonna pop up on there, making loony demands.  OK then.

 

You know, Heather's shitty ass bangy 'do makes me realize -- that's the first time I ever saw Heather with an actual hairstyle.  She never really has one, does she?  It's always flat as a fuckin' pancake, dead straight, stuck to either side of her face, with a kinda murky, dull brown color.  I always thought her hair sucked.  I suspect she's so overly concerned with straightening, de-frizzing & de-poofing, she's left with crap hair & zippo style.  With all her supposed dough, she should get a better stylist.  Does anyone know if she still has this awful bob?  A friend of mine told me this style is very popular for the women in escort ads.  Maybe a new career for Heather if she keeps this 'do?

 

Hey, happy 40,000 views!  Does that set a record?  Weeeee!  Who needs TWOP -- we do have a new home!

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I don't like them, either, but I don't think it's ok to compare them to terrorists. And their religion has nothing to do with their behavior. Alexis and Jim Bellino used to talk about their faith and religious beliefs as being central to who they are and how they live their lives. The Dubrows don't, so I don't think it's fair to draw a link.

AMEN!!!

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I don't even get the need for them -- the woven in ones.  They always look terrible.  You could see the weave straight out with Yolanda.  And I'm assuming these people get the best of the best.  

Au contraire.    I recall Lauri's spawn getting her extensions done at J.C. Penney hair salon, unless I was drunk or something.    Other than Heather,   I don't think any of these women are dressed or coiffed in the manner befitting a well off woman.   I swear Gretchen used kankelon.   Don't get me started on Vicki and Tamra's apparent Bebe shopping addiction.    They could at least upgrade to Black house, White market at their price point.

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Au contraire.    I recall Lauri's spawn getting her extensions done at J.C. Penney hair salon, unless I was drunk or something.    Other than Heather,   I don't think any of these women are dressed or coiffed in the manner befitting a well off woman.   I swear Gretchen used kankelon.   Don't get me started on Vicki and Tamra's apparent Bebe shopping addiction.    They could at least upgrade to Black house, White market at their price point.

 

Good point!  

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Hey, happy 40,000 views!  Does that set a record?  Weeeee!  Who needs TWOP -- we do have a new home!

 

This!  It's actually a pleasure to use a forum that actually incorporates cool features.  Much better run!

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Heather's shitty ass bangy 'do makes me realize -- that's the first time I ever saw Heather with an actual hairstyle.  She never really has one, does she?  It's always flat as a fuckin' pancake, dead straight, stuck to either side of her face, with a kinda murky, dull brown color.  I always thought her hair sucked.  I suspect she's so overly concerned with straightening, de-frizzing & de-poofing, she's left with crap hair & zippo style.

You either have poufy pageant hair, frizzy rat extensions or, if your hair is natural and thin, this. These ladies can't win.

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Where?  On the Bravo site?  I want to see "bitter, bitter, bitter!" 

I prefer bitter to evil.  It is much more apt description of Tamra.  Tamra has this way about her of being envious of everyone around her.  She chides Lizzie for wanting to be the center of attention-at her own birthday party.  Tamra may talk of s sick child but in reality she just didn't want Lizzie to take center stage.  At Lizzie's dinner party Tamra caused the kerfuffle to put the attention squarely on her.  Even when Shannon and Heather were starting to make in roads, out on the deck, Tamra reached over and grabbed Shannon's face to get everything stirred up and literally chased Shannon down trying to get the great victim shot.  Tamra is deeply bitter when she sees women like Heather, Lizzie, Danielle and Shannon that enjoyed their twenties without children, and have good provider husbands and with the exception of Miss Terry, hot husbands. 

 

Has Lizzie been honest?  Probably not.  I think there is such a blurred line with the fourth wall that it is difficult for the newbies to navigate.  Shannon screaming about the tape (which was cut from the final scene) probably means there was footage of the "take the Beadors down" statement. Lizzie being mad about her birthday-how dastardly that production set her up to fail for a real birthday celebration.

 

Tamra will always be bitter and crude and a liar.  Even when she was having the shout down at Vicki-Tamra misrepresented what Brooks said the last time she saw Brooks.  The last time she saw Brooks was at last year's Reunion.  At no time during the Reunion or any other scene did Brooks call Vicki a whore. That is bitter Tamra trying to make Vicki feel bad.   Foul mouth Tamra just lets this crap come out of her mouth for the shock value and then wonders why Vicki is mad at her. 

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You either have poufy pageant hair, frizzy rat extensions or, if your hair is natural and thin, this. These ladies can't win.

 

They can't.  It's a snarky board and when you are on TV people will rip you apart down to the toes.  However, I do appreciate my skin after seeing Tamra in HD.  Sometimes, when I watch the show, I grab the lotion and slather it on.  I never knew what ashey was until I watched RHOA.  I started looking at my feet!  LOL  No ashey for me.  No botox either.  I don't take posts so seriously.  Everyone is just having fun.  That's my OPINION!!!  ;) 

 

I'm out of town this week end.  Everyone, have a wonderful Labor Day Week End.  I'm going with Vicki to PV.  Just kidding.  Hee. 

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Brooks called Vicki a whore on the tape Ryan secretly recorded. That was not one of Tamra's lie.

What Tamra said is the last time she saw Brooks he called Vicki a whore.  That leaves one with the impression that we saw and heard Brooks call Vicki a whore.  So she is lying.  The last time she saw Brooks he was at the Reunion and he did not call Vicki a whore.  It is just the fact she brings it up to Vicki-with those words.  Had Tamra said, at the last Reunion, your daughter Brianna complained about how Brooks was drunk and made some inappropriate comments, that would have been a true statement but tamer.  Why would anyone bring up something so hurtful a year or two later? 

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How could Vicki even be a whore?   Who would hire her?   To be fair, in the last episode when Brooks was commenting on how beautiful pre party Vicki looked,  I believed he was being sincere, and she did look really good. 

 

Tamra would look amazing with short hair,    or at least a just above shoulder length bob with a side bang.   Yes,  bangs.   The hair thing has been beaten to death, but on what planet does Heather not have good hair?   She has a full head of it, it's glossy and falls well.   I'd smack an adorable Panda bear to have hair as nice as Heather's. 

 

Oh, and it's White house, Black market.   I reversed them.

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They can't.  It's a snarky board and when you are on TV people will rip you apart down to the toes.  However, I do appreciate my skin after seeing Tamra in HD.  Sometimes, when I watch the show, I grab the lotion and slather it on.  I never knew what ashey was until I watched RHOA.  I started looking at my feet!  LOL  No ashey for me.  No botox either.  I don't take posts so seriously.  Everyone is just having fun.  That's my OPINION!!!  ;) 

 

I'm out of town this week end.  Everyone, have a wonderful Labor Day Week End.  I'm going with Vicki to PV.  Just kidding.  Hee. 

             I agree.  I always thought Tamra  was pretty, but I watched the reunion in HD. too, and was surprised to see how  many wrinkles she has.

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What Tamra said is the last time she saw Brooks he called Vicki a whore.  That leaves one with the impression that we saw and heard Brooks call Vicki a whore.  So she is lying.  The last time she saw Brooks he was at the Reunion and he did not call Vicki a whore.  It is just the fact she brings it up to Vicki-with those words.  Had Tamra said, at the last Reunion, your daughter Brianna complained about how Brooks was drunk and made some inappropriate comments, that would have been a true statement but tamer.  Why would anyone bring up something so hurtful a year or two later? 

I think you have probably found a perfect example of how Tamra lies. She twists something benign or out of context or known false gossip and uses it to further her "storyline" but always tainted with her rampant bitterness. Bitterness really fits her current look even with the new hair improvement.

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What Tamra said is the last time she saw Brooks he called Vicki a whore.  That leaves one with the impression that we saw and heard Brooks call Vicki a whore.  So she is lying.  The last time she saw Brooks he was at the Reunion and he did not call Vicki a whore.  It is just the fact she brings it up to Vicki-with those words.  Had Tamra said, at the last Reunion, your daughter Brianna complained about how Brooks was drunk and made some inappropriate comments, that would have been a true statement but tamer.  Why would anyone bring up something so hurtful a year or two later?

Ah gotcha. As for the why? Cuz Tamra is a huge C.U. next Tuesday. (Mods, is that ok to use?)

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"There's the truth, then there's the goddamn truth." I'm not even sure what that meant exactly, but I loved it. And yes, Shannon, you are on top of the OC scoreboard right now. Nice game.

YES!!!! I LOVED this and must find a way to use this as often as possible!! Cracked me up!!

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I was at a Tonight Show taping with Johnny Carson and his guest was Angie Dickinson (dating myself here but I was really young) her hairdresser was hiding behind the couch and touched up her hair at every break. That's what extensions need!

 

Oh no, really?  I thought it was all natural for Angie baby.  Drats, how disappointing. 

 

It's disappointing to know that the naturally freaking gorgeous Dickinson, who got hotter in her 40s and 50s than she was in her 20s by almost universal consensus, and was famed for her discretion and charm, got the standard-practice hair touchups during breaks for a TV show?  It makes her lesser, not an icon?  Hm.  Not for Carson, Sinatra, Bacharach, DePalma. 

 

It's impossible for many reasons but I would love to see a Dickinson type on the OC: Tamra would be so bitter to have to be around a woman getting more confident and beautiful over time, especially if she were a true peer or older than Tamra.  Like, an earthy-hot woman, or a different kind of holistic type - like Colleen Saidman Yee, a yogi with (wavy curly!) unfried blonde hair down her back and a hypnotically great body.  I wonder if that sack of trash even knows that it's possible, that some women embrace feeling more settled, going after dreams, enjoying their sexuality - no, it's not possible for a vicious, embittered slag who thinks grasping a forever-gone 20something kind of beauty and screaming about her tits is the only way to get a man to look at or like her.  Worse, Tamra is right in her case and her case only - she has nothing to offer anyone and probably never did.  I think she was a nasty, manipulative bitch in her teens and don't buy even one fragment of her 'I was so depressed, I tried to hurt myself,' shit about her pain in her teens and 20s.  Not buying it at all.   

 

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This is my experience as well. It's why I'm grateful to be an old lady, out of that game, wearing my hair short as a boy's, happy as a clam.

Well now I'm really wondering why I can't get a date?!?! I got at least '3 heads of hair' on my head and it's long. Now I'm really going to have a complex!!!

Even Tamra got a man! Granted she may not be keeping him but still.

I knew this show was no good for my mental state! LOL!!!

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It's disappointing to know that the naturally freaking gorgeous Dickinson, who got hotter in her 40s and 50s than she was in her 20s by almost universal consensus, and was famed for her discretion and charm, got the standard-practice hair touchups during breaks for a TV show?  It makes her lesser, not an icon?  Hm.  Not for Carson, Sinatra, Bacharach, DePalma. 

 

It's impossible for many reasons but I would love to see a Dickinson type on the OC: Tamra would be so bitter to have to be around a woman getting more confident and beautiful over time, especially if she were a true peer or older than Tamra.  Like, an earthy-hot woman, or a different kind of holistic type - like Colleen Saidman Yee, a yogi with (wavy curly!) unfried blonde hair down her back and a hypnotically great body.  I wonder if that sack of trash even knows that it's possible, that some women embrace feeling more settled, going after dreams, enjoying their sexuality - no, it's not possible for a vicious, embittered slag who thinks grasping a forever-gone 20something kind of beauty and screaming about her tits is the only way to get a man to look at or like her.  Worse, Tamra is right in her case and her case only - she has nothing to offer anyone and probably never did.  I think she was a nasty, manipulative bitch in her teens and don't buy even one fragment of her 'I was so depressed, I tried to hurt myself,' shit about her pain in her teens and 20s.  Not buying it at all.   

 

Awwh, thanks for that moment. I was a NBC page and had never seen hair or make-up act like a jack-in-box behind the couch before. It was pretty funny but in all fairness I think he got caught there after a commercial break and just decided to stay because it was easier then running back and forth. Sorry to high jack the thread. ;)

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I think the members of her congregation will be more annoyed by the fact she celebrates Christmas! She mentioned it several times this season, and it immediately pinged to me. It's a big no-no, even in a Reform Congregation, for a Jewish family (and both Heather & Terry are Jewish, correct?) to celebrate Christmas. If one of them were Christian, it's not frowned upon, but I am under the assumption that they are both Jewish. I will fully admit to judging other Jews who put up Christmas decorations, it's a personal pet peeve of mine.

 

Perhaps the Dubrow's rabbi could include this in the next prayer service they attend for the cameras: 

I know that for many, organized religion is a source of wisdom, comfort and community. While I was raised in a Catholic family, our best friends/neighbors were reformed Jews, so I believe I have enough basic knowledge of the Abrahamic as well as other religions to know that love is a core belief. I am thus very curious as to how the members of their synagogue view the Lo-brows pettiness and hypocrisy. Shannon's graciousness is making big points for NewAgers, while the Low-brows are doing as much for Judaism as McVeigh did for Christianity or Bin Laden for Islam. 

 

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I think the members of her congregation will be more annoyed by the fact she celebrates Christmas! She mentioned it several times this season, and it immediately pinged to me. It's a big no-no, even in a Reform Congregation, for a Jewish family (and both Heather & Terry are Jewish, correct?) to celebrate Christmas. If one of them were Christian, it's not frowned upon, but I am under the assumption that they are both Jewish. I will fully admit to judging other Jews who put up Christmas decorations, it's a personal pet peeve of mine.

I celebrate Christmas and I'm not a believer at all. It's fun.

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Is Brooks working? IIRC, he was working in Louisiana and sold insurance. Did he have his own agency like Vicki or was he an employee in one owned by someone else? He's now living in CA but what is he doing for a living - still in insurance?

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So it appears that Lizzie's "exotic" and "Sophia Loren" type features were those of the surgically enhanced variety based on her pageant pics.  Her cheekbones now are much much more pronounced than her more youthful pics.

 

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Or maybe it's just the harsh make-up?

 

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So it appears that Lizzie's "exotic" and "Sophia Loren" type features were those of the surgically enhanced variety based on her pageant pics.  Her cheekbones now are much much more pronounced than her more youthful pics.

 

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Or maybe it's just the harsh make-up?

 

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She looks the same to me.  It just looks like she got her brows done in a less severe shape.  Looks more like make up contouring than anything.  To looks less worked on she needs to cut waaaaay back on the make-up.  Too much smoky eye and contouring and lose some of the va va voom curls in her hair.

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She looks the same to me.  It just looks like she got her brows done in a less severe shape.  Looks more like make up contouring than anything.  To looks less worked on she needs to cut waaaaay back on the make-up.  Too much smoky eye and contouring and lose some of the va va voom curls in her hair.

 

Yeah, maybe so.  

 

I just personally don't think she's all that attractive to begin with even in her pageant days.  Then you add the garish make-up and horrible taste in clothing and to me she looks like a drag queen. 

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This is the pic that makes me think she's had more work done than just a tweaking - like *something* injected in her cheeks.  And her eyebrows are so arched.  She can't be out of her 30s right and yet she looks significantly older to me.

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I don't think she had anything dramatic done. I think it's the combination of heavy makeup/contouring and the loss of baby fat from her youth. The older we get, the sharper our angles get, because the youthful fullness goes away. She always had those cheekbones, they are just more pronounced now.

She's younger than I am (I'm 36) and I was SHOCKED to hear that she celebrated her 34th bday. I sincerely thought she was at least 10 years older. She needs to tone down that makeup.

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Loved this!  Stopped Heather's speech for a second. 

 

I also remember when Heather was talking privately with Tamara about Shannon (a few weeks back) and when Heather was telling her what Shannon said she made a quirky face in imitation of Shannon and broke Tamara up.  I have to admit I laughed at that, it was a good caricature of Shannon (who I like).  Heather stopped what she was saying and watched Tamara laugh.  I think she thought she'd do that again on the reunion show and be Cute and Funny, but in my opinion it failed because she was speaking too quickly and was upset trying to tell Shannon off in a polite for the camera's sake way.  Her face just looked silly and no one even snickered.  Except me, at her, and it was more of a smirk.

Huge fail, indeed. I think, as some have already posted, that Madame puppet hadn't realized yet that she and Miss Terry were now the losers/most hated of the show. She came off like a mean old Backdoor Tamballs-type shrew. A "Shannon moment"? And what would be a Madame and Miss Terry moment? Trying to argue and deliver a practiced PENIS monologue even though it was already made irrelevant by a beautifully executed apology? Madame and Miss Terry look more like desperate Tamballs every second. The best thing that could have happened to Madame would have been if Tamballs and Icky had been successful in their initial ice-out of her. But noooooooo--she had to securely insert her bug-eyed head into both of their anuses. How'd that work out for ya, Madame puppet?

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And what would be a Madame and Miss Terry moment?

 

Telling us about their feelings behind every fucking little c*nty thing they do.  What the fuckety fuck is up with dat?  And just why the hell would we care about your feelings when you & Madame are looking down on everyone, Miss Terry?  Belittling construction workers sucked.  Can't explain that away by droning on bout what you were feeling, hun, cuz nobody cares.  Vicks shoulda snored when he was babbling bout that shit.

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It's disappointing to know that the naturally freaking gorgeous Dickinson, who got hotter in her 40s and 50s than she was in her 20s by almost universal consensus, and was famed for her discretion and charm, got the standard-practice hair touchups during breaks for a TV show?  It makes her lesser, not an icon?  Hm.  Not for Carson, Sinatra, Bacharach, DePalma.

 

Sorry to inspire this rant cuz I was just kiddin' bout Angie.  She's one of my all-time favs.  Luv her!  Well, altho the tone of this is wasted on me, it is a nice reminder of how awesome Angie was & is.  Anyhoo, there will be a ton of tributes coming up about Sophia Loren cuz she will turn 80 next month.  And she looks incredible.  Even at 80, Sophia Loren makes Lizzie look like some crummy dive bar drag queen imitation.  I get the slight (tiny to me) resemblance.  Does anyone else see it?

 

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Sorry to inspire this rant cuz I was just kiddin' bout Angie.  She's one of my all-time favs.  Luv her!  Well, altho the tone of this is wasted on me, it is a nice reminder of how awesome Angie was & is.  Anyhoo, there will be a ton of tributes coming up about Sophia Loren cuz she will turn 80 next month.  And she looks incredible.  Even at 80, Sophia Loren makes Lizzie look like some crummy dive bar drag queen imitation.  I get the slight (tiny to me) resemblance.  Does anyone else see it?

 

 

Yeah, I definitely see it and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Lizzie didn't try to capitalize on that resemblance (I certainly would, Sophia Loren is such a beautiful woman).  

 

I can totally see where if Lizzie reshaped her heavy brows more like those of Sophia Loren in the above clip and her hair were styled differently, the resemblance would be even more striking.  

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You either have poufy pageant hair, frizzy rat extensions or, if your hair is natural and thin, this. These ladies can't win.

 

Sniff.  This almost makes me miss Gretchie poo & her various lunatic 'dos.  Well, maybe not miss, but eh, feel a teeny bit nostalgic.  At least Gretchie had sort of a sense of humor bout her hair.  Gosh, Heather never would, but she never has a sense of humor bout anything.  Heather's hair isn't bad usually -- just boring.  Cue Vicks' snoring, please.  I'd luv to see Heather's natural hair.  Dat's why she tied it up in an I-give-up bun in Bali.  She was terrified to let anyone see her natural hair.  Why?  I wanna see Heather with a super huge afro, which is probably her natural hair.  Oh c'mon, Madame the puppet with a giganto 'fro would be awesome!  Maybe even hot!  Heather looking hot?  Think I just skeered myself.

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