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S03.E08: The Demon of Parenthood


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...oh, my god, that ending with Logan and Valerie. Daaaaaaaaaamn. That was....horrifying.

Also, between the severed finger, that patient of Leland's spitting up blood or whatever during his possession, and Sheryl's demon boss slobbering onto his cookies, I am really regretting picking now to have a late night snack. And speaking of Sheryl's boss, I'm glad that Lexis doesn't apparently see him the way Sheryl does, but considering Sheryl's constant presence regarding all this weird stuff going on with Lexis thus far throughout the series, and Shery talking to Leland about her besides... *Adds this to her ever-growing list of reasons to be afraid for Lexis, and Kristen/the Bouchard family by extension* When it was revealed that Kristen's missing egg had been fertilized, I was afraid we'd learn Sheryl and/or Leland had gotten their hands on it somehow. 

The explanation behind the creepy toys was a good one. As heartbreaking as it is to imagine people in those labor camps being forced to send a message like that, I can totally see them doing such a thing. I still feel like that doesn't explain the creepy jack-in-the-box, though, which did genuinely make me jump when it popped up. 

I also liked the conflict over the mixed messages David was trying to send to the Entity, and the brief confusion that caused. An interesting wrinkle in his mission to explore. I'm glad he was able to work it all out, though I'm still wary of Victor and whatever this group has planned. Hell, as great as it is to see Grace again, I can't help wondering if it's really Grace as we know her, or if she's changed somehow. I'm hoping it's the former, both because I like Grace herself and want to see her back and interacting with David again, and because it'd be nice to see that his efforts for this group, even if they do have darker motives, weren't totally in vain. 

But oh, man, David's conversations with Kristen this episode. So heartbreaking. I do feel it's a little unfair to single David out for keeping secrets, because they've all been keeping things to themselves that they probably should've been sharing with each other a lot sooner, but given these particular circumstances, with Lexis and all, I can see why Kristen's especially bothered about this, too. I am glad that they were able to work through that issue, but their talk later on, in which David made it clear where his main priority lies, and them having to deal with their feelings towards each other as they do...just...aw :(. 

On a significantly lighter note, I did love Kristen's talk with Ben regarding her egg and struggling with what to tell Valerie and all. Ben's advice to her was sweet and true to form. Just a shame that she never got to actually say that to Valerie and Logan. I also loved Ben being playful towards Kristen with the wand when she came into the meeting at the beginning of the episode :D. Hee. 

As for Dr. Boggs, all I have to say to him is: Dude. What are you doing?!?! I am glad that we weren't robbed of an opportunity to see him try and get some of Sister Andrea's hair directly from her head, though :p. I had a feeling he wouldn't be brave enough to try that route, LOL. 

Two episodes to go! I can't believe we're almost at the end of the season already! I can't even begin to imagine what they have planned next.

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Dr. Boggs has really gone off the deep end, hasn't he? Now he's getting himself possessed on purpose, all because he's so obsessed with becoming famous. At least he didn't actually try to cut off Sister Andrea's hair, since that would not have gone well for him. The demon popping up to say "boop!" can't be a good sign.

Kristen's egg being given to another couple and fertilized without her consent is terrible. That nightmare she had of the demon baby was so creepy and well done. Even though Kristen tried to downplay everything, the husband knew that baby was demonic, but I didn't expect him to cut it out of his wife. Poor Valerie is obviously dead, but did the demon spawn survive or did it get killed too? I'm guessing it's dead based on how much blood was in that room, but you never know. I wonder if it really resembled the six-armed demon baby in Kristen's nightmare. The monitor playing "Ode to Joy" quietly in the background when Kristen entered the house was haunting.

It's good that Lexis didn't see Sheryl's boss as an actual demon, but Kristen really needs to keep Sheryl away from Lexis.

I'm surprised that Grace was actually freed since getting her back seemed like the Entity covering for the real goal of eliminating the demon houses.

I loved both of Kristen and David's conversations this episode. It's understandable that Kristen felt betrayed by David lying to her about his work with the Entity, but it's also clear how much they care about each other. David is still hiding something though, since he never told her about Demon Kristen. I hope he does before the end of the season.

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The Demon Baby was not very convincing as being a living creature.

It would have been so easy to program the Roomba to spell out words on the carpet.

I am not sure where Kristen and David had their meeting when he came over her house, I thought it might have been the Garage, but I thought Sheryl was living there.

The girls were mysteriously absent, especially since a lot of the story happens at night in Kristen's house with people making lots of noise.

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Ok, I need closure, full wrap-up like in S1.  I need to see them come together and discuss their next move with the fertility clinic as the dad is carried off in handcuffs and what happened to the guy last week going home after his possession ended.  And why does Kristen let Cheryl anywhere near the girls?  She has to know Cheryl is still communicating with Leland at the very least. And previews!  I need previews for the next episode.  BUT still love the show.

Glad to see George too.  When are we going to get to Alexis having a tail and biting off dentists’ fingers?

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1 hour ago, Scout Finch said:

Okay, so the Magic 8 ball was explained but how would the stuffed animals' expressions change after leaving the store? 

They said all of it was done (faked by the toy manufacturer, except for the severed finger which was an industrial accident) to get the attention of "The Entity" so they could pass the message that would get Grace Ling back.

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This season is building up to something incredibly sinister and I can't wait to see what it is.   I am really liking the nature vs nurture thing they are doing with Lexis and pushing the idea that yes she is a good kid who sees the human face of the manager.  There are only two eyes.    I can completely understand why Kristen is upset at David.  Yes they have all lied to each other but this lie leads to her kids and that is not something you let go.  Kristen has already murdered someone to protect her kids and David knows this.  So not telling her that The Entity is basically after her daughter for some perceived crime she might commit in the future pushes every button.   

And yeah circling back to RSM Fertility and the couple that got Kristen's missing egg.  I honestly wouldn't have minded if it had been more then a single episode storyline.   You know get to know the wife a little more before the husband kills her and the unborn baby that might be a demon.  

Bogg Boggs Boggs....what are you doing?  

I personally think The Entity freed Grace because she has a hold over David.   She is someone whose visions might be enough to override his confusing feelings for Kristen especially now that there is a rift between them.  

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I feel like the nights on this show last at least two full days each with how much traveling these people do all in the dark. 😜

The ending with the couple was so creepy and sad. :( Obviously it's very possible that the baby WAS killing Valerie, but it's also possible Logan just...thought it was? I dunno. I do wish it had lasted more than one episode, after all the build up about Kristen's egg the whole show!

Very glad Lexis apparently can't see the manager boss dude, but also: why is Sheryl talking to Leland about Lexis like this!! Why doesn't she care about her granddaughters anymore!! Ugh! I know Kristen isn't exactly around a lot but I so need her to notice her mother should not be involved with her kids anymore.

Happy to see Grace again!! Although again, how does time pass on this show?! She seemed to appear within hours!

Lastly, as always, I love Ben. I need more scenes of Ben and David, honestly, but I adore Ben and Kristen's friendship so much. I never tire of their scenes, either. Glad he seems to know about the Entity stuff too, not just Kristen.

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I really thought it was going to end with Lexis revealing in some way that she had seen the “manager.” 

I think they’re being clever with Dr. Boggs & showing how a skeptical/academic-minded person can get in over their heads. It’s like he has an intellectual arrogance about what he’s playing with, not like he realizes he’s essentially selling his soul. If that makes sense? Kind of like last week’s events at the compound. 

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No way would I let Demon Baby get anywhere near my tit, dream or no dream! Did you see the set of choppers on the thing? I know they say sometimes babies can look ugly but yikes! That was freaky. 

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3 minutes ago, sisterspoon said:

I think Lexis saw (and smelled) Sheryl's boss…

I think so too. I’m willing to bet she will later reveal she saw him as the demon goat and wasn’t the least bit disturbed by it. Like when she saw her tail. She wasn’t perturbed at all, if I remember correctly.

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8 minutes ago, ferjy said:

I think so too. I’m willing to bet she will later reveal she saw him as the demon goat and wasn’t the least bit disturbed by it. Like when she saw her tail. She wasn’t perturbed at all, if I remember correctly.

Exactly!  She seems quite unflappable.

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My favorite part of this episode - George flossing with Lexis. 🤣🤣🤣

Good job David for taking the 12th word’s assignment very seriously and helping to bring Grace back. So what’s next for Grace? Will she be alerting the trio on what’s going on with Andy and Sheryl?

Kristen was overreacting and being melodramatic again. Yes, she doesn’t like being lied to, especially by a close friend but she doesn’t tell David everything as well. She also lies to her husband and hides so many things from him. When she found out about her daughter being groomed by demonic forces, she didn’t even try to contact Andy and inform him about it. Hey Kristen, if you worry about your daughter etc, talk to your husband. Don’t lash out on David. 🙄

David has no obligation to disclose everything about his work with The Entity to Kristen. David refused to spy on Lexis. This speaks volume about David as a person and a friend. Just be thankful Kristen! Their second conservation at the end was nice and heartwarming though. The one person that David did betray is the Monsignor. 

The COTW was creepy in the beginning. It was rushed towards the end just because of Grace and baby Sara.

Poor Valerie! Was Logan possessed when he’s “saving” her? Judging by the way Kristen was gasping and screaming, am guessing baby Sara is alive?!! 😳

Ben’s nature vs nurture. The show may implies that Lexis isn’t demonic (enough) because she is raised in a loving family. But I have a feeling that Lexis lied to Sheryl about The Manager. That girl can smell rotten flesh, death, blood etc and not freaking out. She’s way too smart for her Rad-G.

I keep hearing that Alouette song every time I see Kurt’s face now. Damn you Evil!

Disgusting scene - Kristen nursing the demon baby. Yuck!

Overall, this is one of the amazing episodes this season. Kudos to the director - Aisha Tyler. 🙌🏻 

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14 minutes ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

I keep hearing that Alouette song every time I see Kurt’s face now. Damn you Evil!

I was watching a DVD of an old cartoon series I liked as a kid a couple nights ago, and in one episode, one of the characters was singing that song. And all I could think of was this show :p. 

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I didn’t like this episode so much, but I’m still not feeling well, and I’ve just been feeling off in general.  I might watch it again.  
I thought Lexis lied to Sheryl.  I could be wrong, but who knows? So, Sheryl knows that she’s supposed to be a big deal in the demonic world, too. 
that ending. I wasn’t expecting the guy to cut the baby out of his wife.  

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1 hour ago, ferjy said:

No way would I let Demon Baby get anywhere near my tit, dream or no dream! Did you see the set of choppers on the thing? I know they say sometimes babies can look ugly but yikes! That was freaky. 

Well, as they sometimes say: "A face only a mother could love." I couldn't even look at that thing, it was too creepy!

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2 hours ago, Scout Finch said:

Well, as they sometimes say: "A face only a mother could love." I couldn't even look at that thing, it was too creepy!

Mother shmother, I’d drown the kid. (j/k. I think). I’m sure my maternal instincts would kick in and I’d love the little monster. But man that was horrific. 

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15 hours ago, snoopypez said:

why is Sheryl talking to Leland about Lexis like this!!

I wonder if she's playing a long game, trying to protect Lexis...but then she's the "ambassador." For WHOM? (Not to mention that she is keeping what's-his-face, Andy, alive). I feel like she's the wild card in all this, but she's not particularly BRIGHT. (And who/what is Eddie?)

Boggs is a f*cking idiot. I didn't think he was that shallow. What does his wife make of his behavior? I wonder if he's going to end up dead this season. Also, I bet his book is terrible.

It's good that the actor who plays Lexis is turning out to be pretty good. (I wonder if that's part of why she was selected to be the RSM baby). 

...and of course, even in a dream, Kristen would nurse a demon baby. Very Rosemary of her.

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On 7/31/2022 at 1:03 PM, Scout Finch said:

Okay, so the Magic 8 ball was explained but how would the stuffed animals' expressions change after leaving the store? 

The stuffed animals' expressions were mainly the eyes that went from a black to a steely blue FU stare. I imagine there are a number of ways you can do that since there a sunglasses that darken when the sun is out, there are those ink pens where the ladies clothes come off when you turn then upside down, there are mood rings that change color based on skin temperature and I am sure there are chemicals that change color when exposed to light or other chemicals, that might be triggered when somebody squeezes or shakes the toy. I might even be as simple as contact lenses that fall off when the toy is handled roughly.

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On 8/1/2022 at 7:33 AM, Annber03 said:

I was watching a DVD of an old cartoon series I liked as a kid a couple nights ago, and in one episode, one of the characters was singing that song. And all I could think of was this show :p. 

So, did anyone look up the lyrics? It was stuck in my head nonstop since the last episode, so I looked it up (at first using nothing but Google Translate and going by ear, LOL) and it goes something like "Skylark, gentle skylark, I will rip off your head [...] I will rip off your beak [...] I will rip off your neck," etc. And it's apparently a children's song. 😂 Very fitting for this show.

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35 minutes ago, Niuxita said:

So, did anyone look up the lyrics? It was stuck in my head nonstop since the last episode, so I looked it up (at first using nothing but Google Translate and going by ear, LOL) and it goes something like "Skylark, gentle skylark, I will rip off your head [...] I will rip off your beak [...] I will rip off your neck," etc. And it's apparently a children's song. 😂 Very fitting for this show.

This is not at all surprising given that all of the thing supposedly for kids (like some nursery rhymes and many fairy tales) are fairly terrifying!

On 8/1/2022 at 12:33 AM, ferjy said:

No way would I let Demon Baby get anywhere near my tit, dream or no dream! Did you see the set of choppers on the thing?

Not with those damn teeth! Stay away from my nipples please!

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9 hours ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

Flossing with George... fun time!

Look at Lexis' poker face... 😂😂😂

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I could watch this for an hour. Kudos to the young actress for keeping a straight face. I wonder how many takes were needed for the scene?

I can’t believe Kristen ran into the house and up the stairs with the guy who patently just murdered his wife. I understand she was concerned about the woman, but run AWAY from the guy soaked in blood and call 911 instead of getting yourself trapped upstairs with him!

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On 8/2/2022 at 6:38 AM, Niuxita said:

So, did anyone look up the lyrics? It was stuck in my head nonstop since the last episode, so I looked it up (at first using nothing but Google Translate and going by ear, LOL) and it goes something like "Skylark, gentle skylark, I will rip off your head [...] I will rip off your beak [...] I will rip off your neck," etc. And it's apparently a children's song. 😂 Very fitting for this show.

lol It’s generally used to teach body parts (in French class, for instance) to children. You point to your body parts as you sing. “Lark, lovely lark. Lark, I will pluck your feathers...” and you proceed to sing about plucking another part of the poor bird’s body! I’m from Montreal (the song originated in Quebec) and we happily sang it as children. French wasn’t my first language so I had no idea at the time that I was singing about plucking the poor thing alive!

LOL at this video... the kid happily plucking the wee beastie! They should have shown that video in Evil. 😄

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The toy bird is the Alouette...

12 hours ago, ferjy said:

Doesn’t Primetimer automatically embed YouTube videos (I thought it did before when I’d done it.) If not, how can I do it?

Yes, it does.

I tried and pasted the above URL here, it worked, it's embedded automatically. Try again...

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1 hour ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

The toy bird is the Alouette...

Well at least they’re not plucking it in this video. Even if they are singing about it. Still, I would have hightailed it out of there if I were that Alouette. 

1 hour ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

Yes, it does.

I tried and pasted the above URL here, it worked, it's embedded automatically. Try again...

Thanks for the reply. It worked this time. Must have been a glitch yesterday. 

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You sometimes need to "paste as text" otherwise it doesn't work.

I had that song pop into my head when I was doing laundry, in the early hours of the morning, and it actually creeped me out, LOL. 

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On 7/31/2022 at 12:08 PM, AnimeMania said:

 I am not sure where Kristen and David had their meeting when he came over her house, I thought it might have been the Garage, but I thought Sheryl was living there.

In one of the previous episodes there's a scene with Sheryl and Lexis where it's mentioned that Sheryl is moving into her new house which is two blocks away and Sheryl takes the demon book so that Lexis will go and visit her (which is why I was surprised to see the book in the girls' room in the episode where David comes to dinner).

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On 8/2/2022 at 1:02 PM, SnazzyDaisy said:

Flossing with George... fun time!

Look at Lexis' poker face... 😂😂😂

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I have a laundry list of gripes with this show ... but this little bit was genius.

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On 7/31/2022 at 1:53 AM, phalange said:

Kristen's egg being given to another couple and fertilized without her consent is terrible. That nightmare she had of the demon baby was so creepy and well done. Even though Kristen tried to downplay everything, the husband knew that baby was demonic, but I didn't expect him to cut it out of his wife. Poor Valerie is obviously dead, but did the demon spawn survive or did it get killed too? I'm guessing it's dead based on how much blood was in that room, but you never know. I wonder if it really resembled the six-armed demon baby in Kristen's nightmare. The monitor playing "Ode to Joy" quietly in the background when Kristen entered the house was haunting.

I think that the husband killed Valerie and the baby. I don't think he meant to kill Valerie, but in whatever effort he made to remove the demon spawn, she probably died. Think about it - would any DIY C-Section not end up with the mother dead, especially if done with garden tools?

I think Kristen's horror is both because of the general carnage, and possibly because of the body remnants of the fetus. I wonder what the police thought when they can to investigate?

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On 7/31/2022 at 3:16 AM, Annber03 said:

The explanation behind the creepy toys was a good one. As heartbreaking as it is to imagine people in those labor camps being forced to send a message like that, I can totally see them doing such a thing.

I think this was inspired by something that actually happened (and I have seen similar reports elsewhere, though not sure if they are all true): https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-45976946

 

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