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S04.E11: Pound of Flesh and Still Kickin'

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AZChristian

AZChristian

12 minutes ago, Artsda said:

Where's the baby? Back in foster? Ruth should be heir to Darlene's land. She should move in.

Marty finally snaps. I didn't mind the road rage guy attacking Wendy. She deserved it and more.

IIRC, Ruth took Zach back to social services and said, "Do NOT give him to the Byrdes.  They are terrible people."

I cheered when the road rage guy attacked Wendy.  It was vicarious pleasure for all of us to see her get what she had coming because she just could NOT let Marty handle things on his own.  And she seemed to "get it" that Marty was using a total stranger as a punching bag instead of using her as one.

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DoctorAtomic

DoctorAtomic

Even though he killed the wrong guy, it looks like Marty got some respect from the other soldiers in the cartel.  He's a little late on it but finally got around that it was Camilla. I'd think by now one of them would pick up on some Spanish. 

I'm still rooting for the Byrdes, but wow Wendy, maybe settle into a 5 for a few minutes. She's at 11 all the time. She's going to explode and make a rash move that's going to be costly. Although I agree that if they know it's Camilla and she doesn't know they know, they have a leg up. 

I don't know if the PI is going to be the downfall of everyone (I hope not), or is going to dig himself in real deep and get got. They keep saying he was a good cop, so it leans to him figuring out what's going on, but he just has no idea. 

I'm not seeing an ending with Marty in charge of the cartel. Or Wendy. It's too Eastern Promises and has been done hundreds of times.  

The actor is knocking it out of the part, but Nathan is totally shady. 

I do like how Clare always thinks she so tough and is just completely not in the same league as Wendy or the cartel. Though Wendy looked legitimately concerned about the decoy situation so she's not being overconfident. 

Did Darlene have a majority stake in the Belle? 

Five star scene with Marty and Charlotte outside while Wendy was with Nathan. I guess she's basically an adult now. 

How many times has Marty said, 'let me do my job?' He's basically come through all the time and no one leaves him alone. 

That was a great ending. 

 

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DoctorAtomic

DoctorAtomic

I got that at the end, but when Ruth and Rachel first knocked on the door of Charles With The Lake House, Rachel said 'Ruth is going to be the majority owner in the Belle' before he made the offer. She made it sound like Darlene's shares already were in the majority. I suppose Rachel was implying Charles With The Lake House was going to make Ruth the majority owner. I just didn't recall Darlene's deal. 

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Anela

Anela

Eh, I don’t like Wendy, but I’m not a fan of road rage guy, calling her a bitch, and attacking her. It’s so easy for a guy like that, to go after a woman, and I’m not a fan of incessant beepers either.  Marty yelling that he could make one phone call, and have him killed, wasn’t smart.  
 

I don’t know why I’m looking for a happy ending for Ruth.  It would be nice.  

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Raja

Raja

On 4/30/2022 at 3:42 PM, DoctorAtomic said:

I don't know if the PI is going to be the downfall of everyone (I hope not), or is going to dig himself in real deep and get got. They keep saying he was a good cop, so it leans to him figuring out what's going on, but he just has no idea. 

I don't think Mel gets out, he might be looking for redemption as a cop. Agent Miller already told him it is too late get out now since Nelson saw him. Nobody hesitates when they make a kill decision on this show. With daddy messing with Wendy I am guessing that one Byrde has reason to send him

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iMonrey

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 I cheered when the road rage guy attacked Wendy.

Yikes. I'm as sick of Wendy as anyone else but I'm not cheering for some rando to beat her up. I mostly just feel bad for Marty because he's been trying to get them out of this mess for a long time and she just keeps digging them in deeper. I don't blame Jonah for staying away and I don't know why Charlotte sticks around. I think Wendy's probably going to get what's coming to her eventually but that road rage guy was a giant asshole. It's not like Marty was in control of the traffic jam.

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I got that at the end, but when Ruth and Rachel first knocked on the door of Charles With The Lake House, Rachel said 'Ruth is going to be the majority owner in the Belle' before he made the offer. 

She said Ruth was about to become the largest land owner in the Ozarks. Which was premature considering the attorney only advised she might have a 50% claim on Darlene's properties. The case would still have to work its way through the courts and I'm sure the state has a vested interest in keeping that land for itself. (In many states if you die without leaving a will your property goes to the state. I'm surprised Darlene didn't have a will, though.)

There have been so many machinations on this show and it's been strung out for so many years I have no recollection of who the Lake House guy was or what his involvement was in the story.

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killermears

killermears

Did anyone pick up on why Wendy put Camila up to head the cartel? She doesn't want Marty to have that kind of power and overshadow her. She blindsided him with it because she knows he wouldn't have agreed. She also may want Omar killed because of the threats he made against her before he accepted the new situation figuring she can smooth that over with the Feds.

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Raja

Raja

13 minutes ago, SnarkAttack said:

The Byrde's have such lame cars.

And I hate that damn house of theirs.

That is all.

In many of these crime lord shows everybody is so concerned about showing that they have money that they never get to enjoy the benefits of all the risk that they are taking. On the other hand I wouldn't mind retiring to that house on a lake

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mstar1125

mstar1125

On 5/7/2022 at 11:05 AM, Zonk said:

So Marty really only figured out now that it was Kamilla all along? Man, he has gotten a lot dumber than he used to be.

Right? I called it as soon as it happened that Camila had ordered it. Arturo might have been skimming a little extra $$$ from the cartel, but we had no reason to think he wanted to take Navarro out. Whereas Camila had an obvious motive, made only more obvious by her telling Marty that Arturo and Javi didn't get along. In fact, that information should have made Marty realize Arturo wasn't the one who ordered the hit. If Arturo didn't like Javi, and Javi is now dead by Navarro's order (as far as he knows) and the cartel is back in Navarro's control, then we would expect greater loyalty from Arturo to Navarro, not less. 

Meanwhile, I wish I understood the motive for Wendy putting Camila in charge of the cartel instead of Marty. It's clearly not to "save Marty" as she suggested, but what advantage does Wendy gain? I don't think her and Camila are besties now that Wendy got her the stock options and the deal with Shaw. 

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mstar1125

mstar1125

On 5/11/2022 at 4:05 PM, Avabelle said:

I hate Wendy to new levels with every additional episode I watch. I despise her. I hate this season because every episode is just Wendy treating people like shit and getting away with it. In fact with the way she wins each scenario you’d honestly think the show sees her as the hero.

It's interesting to think that the writers might want us to root for her. I don't understand how anyone could see her as a hero, she's thrown her own son under the bus so many times. I'm rooting for Marty, Jonah, Charlotte and Ruth. Hell, I'm even rooting for Navarro. But I don't want to see Wendy get a happy ending. 

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Paloma

Paloma

On 4/30/2022 at 11:05 AM, AZChristian said:

IIRC, Ruth took Zach back to social services and said, "Do NOT give him to the Byrdes.  They are terrible people."

Thank you for reminding me of that brief scene--I had forgotten and kept saying "Who's taking care of the baby?" for the last couple of episodes. 

I know this is a minor issue relative to the overall story, but it really bothers me that apparently nobody has told Child Protective Services or Social Services (or whatever the appropriate agency) who the real parents of the baby were. I don't remember if Ruth knows, but Marty and Wendy certainly do, and even though they obviously don't want to tell what happened to the parents, they could send an anonymous message with the names of the (dead) parents. Or Charlotte or Jonah could do that. Presumably the pastor and his wife had relatives who might want to take the baby. But the way things are likely to go, the baby will be fostered or adopted by strangers and never know his real identity or family unless he takes a DNA test as an adult (and maybe not even then). 

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AZChristian

AZChristian

1 hour ago, Paloma said:

Thank you for reminding me of that brief scene--I had forgotten and kept saying "Who's taking care of the baby?" for the last couple of episodes. 

I know this is a minor issue relative to the overall story, but it really bothers me that apparently nobody has told Child Protective Services or Social Services (or whatever the appropriate agency) who the real parents of the baby were. 

Wikipedia has a large entry about Ozark, including episode-by-episode summaries.  The state agency did know who Zeke's mother and father were, but the show never seemed to indicate (as best I can remember) whether there was any extended family.  I think it's one of those things we have to assume was investigated further after Darlene's death and the return of Zeke to foster care.

It would have been hard for them to re-place the poor kid ANYWHERE that would have been worse than living with Darlene . . . even if his birth family was never located.

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SlovakPrincess

SlovakPrincess

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The whole FBI-lowkey-running-a-drug-cartel-just-to-rake-in-money plot is not working for me at all.  If the FBI isn't really interested putting the Byrdes in jail, what is the dramatic tension?  I mean, I realize the FBI still could, but the "deal" at this point is contrived and annoying and FBI's threats to Marty ring hollow.  Stupid.

How does Ruth have enough money to buy a casino?  I doubt she's sold enough heroin to buy enough shares to control an entire casino, and a bunch of her money she already sank into the Lazy-O motel.  And whatever she inherited from Darlene will take some time to work its way through probate. And I don't see Rachel getting a casino license when she (a) has her own arrest record (for the DUI that initially made her a target of Petty), and (b) just filed for bankruptcy on a failed diner in Florida.  Also, Rachel is really going to risk her sobriety, risk the ire of a drug cartel, and go into business with Ruth the cartel-leader-murdering heroin dealer ... because Tuck lost his job ... when she could just tell Marty to give Tuck his job again, and Marty would likely oblige??  

Wendy is really settling into her evilness at this point. 

I'm surprised it took Marty four seasons to finally lose his shit.  

Marty flipping out and Nathan and Mel closing in on Wendy's lies were the only parts of the episode I really liked, as the only dramatically satisfying and logical scenes.   Richard Thomas is acting the hell out of this small and complicated part.   

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