Figure Skating

[scarynikki12]

So what made Hanyu decide to go for three?

[Thumper]

11 minutes ago, scarynikki12 said:

A ton of skiers are crapping out early on the Super G course so it should wrap up here in a moment.

Caught that.  It is pretty cool that Ryan Cochran-Something won Silver.  His mom, Barbara Cochran won Gold in skiing 50 years ago!  I’m old enough that her name is familiar.

Back to skating on NBC.  Thanks for the info about the app and/ or Peacock (which I don’t have), but I appreciate you letting me know.

Edited February 8, 2022 by Thumper

[Enero]

So why is Brian not at the boards. They have Japanese representative there, but no Brian.

[Lady Whistleup]

Oh dear, Yuzu popped his 4S.

[Chaser]

Wow

[scarynikki12]

Hanyu popped a jump. Is the scoring such that there's no way he wins gold again or can he pull if off if he lands that quad axel in the free?

[Enero]

Oh no Yuzu! Yikes. Well no gold for him. But he can stay in medal contention if he stays on his game for the remainder of the skate. 

Looking at the score I think he's off the podium. Wow. This sucks. If he'd hit the first jump he'd be in first. SMH.

Edited February 8, 2022 by Enero

[GeminiDancer]

Whoa! Hanyu! I wonder how far down he’ll be. 

2 minutes ago, Enero said:

So why is Brian not at the boards. They have Japanese representative there, but no Brian.

Yuzu didn’t want him there, apparently. 

[KittenPokerCheater]

Telenovela gasp!

[Chaser]

That axel landing looked off too. 

[KittenPokerCheater]

I don't know if he's upset or not at peak performance shape, but I've never seen him that winded before.

[OnePlusOne]

So stunned about Hanyu.

[Lady Whistleup]

Father Time is undefeated. Yuzu is giving me Simone Biles vibes :( It's like he forgot how to jump. Even his trademark triple axel looked weak.

[Chaser]

2 minutes ago, scarynikki12 said:

Hanyu popped a jump. Is the scoring such that there's no way he wins gold again or can he pull if off if he lands that quad axel in the free?

Quad Axel doesn’t have enough base value 

[BitterApple]

Wow. This has certainly opened things up.

[Enero]

Just now, KittenPokerCheater said:

I don't know if he's upset or not at peak performance shape, but I've never seen him that winded before.

I've seen him winded like that many times. I'm thinking he had a brain fart on that first jump. Scott Hamilton has talked about it many times, where the brain just says nope and there's nothing you can do to stop it. Could've been nerves too.

 

[absnow54]

1 minute ago, Chaser said:

Quad Axel doesn’t have enough base value 

Johnny or Tara said you can’t do a quad axel in the short. 

[Jeddah]

Anyone else gasp out loud? Still a beautiful skate from Hanyu.

[scarynikki12]

Just now, Enero said:

I'm thinking he had a brain fart on that first jump.

It looked like his right foot got away from him so there wasn't anything he could do to salvage.

[kittykat]

Oh man HANYU!  Did not see that coming.  Granted hes past his prime but poor guy 

[scarynikki12]

2 minutes ago, Chaser said:

Quad Axel doesn’t have enough base value 

A quad axel doesn't have enough base value? Is it because it's never been done in Olympic competition?

[Lady Whistleup]

Yuzu looked crushed in the K&C. Poor guy.

[Good Queen Jane]

As they say, you can’t win a competition in the short program, but you certainly can lose it there. 

[OnePlusOne]

2 minutes ago, Enero said:

I've seen him winded like that many times. I'm thinking he had a brain fart on that first jump. Scott Hamilton has talked about it many times, where the brain just says nope and there's nothing you can do to stop it. Could've been nerves too.

 

Johnny said the same thing. That your body just does it (to protect itself), and there's nothing you can do.

[twoods]

Shoma is so lovely to watch.

[Enero]

Love Shoma's outfit. Such presence. Love him. Excellent skate. 

[emma675]

I didn't realize Hanyu is as old as he is (well, "old"). For some reason I thought he was still in his early to mid 20s. Time is totally messed up in my brain over the last two years. Poor guy, it looks like he just had a brain fart and couldn't salvage the jump. This certainly makes things more interesting. 

[absnow54]

I wonder if Hanyu is just going to scrap his free skate and spend the allotted time doing 4A until he lands one, since a three peat is probably off the table. 

[GeminiDancer]

2 minutes ago, scarynikki12 said:

A quad axel doesn't have enough base value? Is it because it's never been done in Olympic competition?

Nathan’s free is stacked in comparison to Yuzu. I believe Nathan has a 4Lz+3T in the second half as well. Yuzu would have to be 100% clean and get help in order to win. 
 

A 4A has a base value is 12.50. It’s not worth it to do it, especially since we haven’t seen him rotate it fully. 

[Chaser]

3 minutes ago, scarynikki12 said:

A quad axel doesn't have enough base value? Is it because it's never been done in Olympic competition?

I’m not sure how base value is determined but it’s a 12.50. Base value with the 4A is still 10 below Nathan. 

[Enero]

Cha looks like he skates with a lot of speed. Could be the music though. Strong skate. 

[scarynikki12]

1 minute ago, GeminiDancer said:

Nathan’s free is stacked in comparison to Yuzu. I believe Nathan has a 4Lz+3T in the second half as well. Yuzu would have to be 100% clean and get help in order to win. 
 

A 4A has a base value is 12.50. It’s not worth it to do it, especially since we haven’t seen him rotate it fully. 

That makes sense.

[twoods]

Yeah, Cha’s skate was definitely fun to watch because of the music and how fast he skates. I am really enjoying the short program tonight and all the energy these guys are bringing.

[Minneapple]

I audibly gasped when Hanyu popped his jump. It looked like a total mental issue and it made sense when Johnny said that sometimes your brain just says nope.

[GeminiDancer]

Yuzu is saying that his blade might have caught a  divot… Yikes. 

[Chaser]

Yes, that was fun and good

[Lady Whistleup]

Omg to subject Yuzu to the horrid Andrea Joyce ...

And he looked like his voice was on the verge of tears. Awful.

[Enero]

2 minutes ago, absnow54 said:

I wonder if Hanyu is just going to scrap his free skate and spend the allotted time doing 4A until he lands one, since a three peat is probably off the table. 

He has nothing to lose and nothing to prove. I think he's going to go all out in the free skate. I wouldn't be surprised if he skates like he did at 2017 worlds when he was in 5th after the short and skated lights out to win gold. He has no chance of winning gold here unless there's an absolute disaster with the skaters ahead of him, but my point is,  I don't think he'll hold back. He's a competitor first and will do his best to skate to his full potential. 

 

[Constant Viewer]

2 minutes ago, Lady Whistleup said:

Omg to subject Yuzu to the horrid Andrea Joyce ...

And he looked like his voice was on the verge of tears. Awful.

I know! I wish they would let the athletes have at least some time before bombarding them with questions.

[scarynikki12]

1 minute ago, Constant Viewer said:

I know! I wish they would let the athletes have at least some time before bombarding them with questions.

But then who would make them cry/almost cry on camera and deny NBC the melodrama they abuse for ratings??

[Sarahsmile416]

Just now, scarynikki12 said:

But then who would make them cry/almost cry on camera and deny NBC the melodrama they abuse for ratings??

They owe us those tears, damnit! 
 

 

[justmehere]

1 minute ago, GeminiDancer said:

Yuzu is saying that his blade might have caught a  divot… Yikes. 

He kept checking the ice on his way off. That's sad, if so. 

Also -- as much as I love Shoma Uno, the judges apparently ignored him touching the ice after his combination jump. It was very plain to see, and he even looked surprised by his score, perhaps thinking it should be lower given the mistake. Did no one else see it? Would they go back later and change the score if someone brought it up? It definitely wasn't part of the program.

[GeminiDancer]

I wonder if Jason is clean that he might be ahead of Yuzu…

[emmawoodhouse]

2 minutes ago, justmehere said:

He kept checking the ice on his way off. That's sad, if so. 

Also -- as much as I love Shoma Uno, the judges apparently ignored him touching the ice after his combination jump. It was very plain to see, and he even looked surprised by his score, perhaps thinking it should be lower given the mistake. Did no one else see it? Would they go back later and change the score if someone brought it up? It definitely wasn't part of the program.

Judges seem especially lenient tonight. 

[absnow54]

2 minutes ago, justmehere said:

Also -- as much as I love Shoma Uno, the judges apparently ignored him touching the ice after his combination jump. It was very plain to see, and he even looked surprised by his score, perhaps thinking it should be lower given the mistake. Did no one else see it? Would they go back later and change the score if someone brought it up? It definitely wasn't part of the program.

Tara was talking about negative grade of execution after that happened, explaining that the element would have a low score… and then it didn’t. 

[Chaser]

Yuma is just a jelly bean

I’m so nervous for Nathan

[Enero]

5 minutes ago, GeminiDancer said:

I wonder if Jason is clean that he might be ahead of Yuzu…

The way these guys are skating I think Yuzu could easily end up in 10th going into the FS. So to answer your question, I think it is possible. Though if he doesn't have a quad, unlikely.

Edited February 8, 2022 by Enero

[justmehere]

5 minutes ago, absnow54 said:

Tara was talking about negative grade of execution after that happened, explaining that the element would have a low score… and then it didn’t. 

OK. I'm watching on Peacock, so I didn't hear that. Strange. 

[GeminiDancer]

3 minutes ago, Enero said:

The way these guys are skating I think Yuzu could easily end up in 10th going into the FS. So to answer your question, I think it is possible. Though if he doesn't have a quad, unlikely.

I’m trying to be hopeful. I want him to do so well even though I know he won’t medal. 

[scarynikki12]

Keegan should be skating to Elvis. He has the requisite attitude.