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1 hour ago, carolinagirl81 said:

And in Britney spears's case I guess they were saying she was neglecting her health her mental health and in Amanda bynes's case She was squandering her money and her parents stepped in and she still has her conservative ship in place and she seems to be doing well living a private life. Every now and then TMZ/the gossip sites will do a report on her.

1 hour ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Oh, I thought Bynes was restored too.  Idk, at times I see things online about both women and it’s concerning.  

Yes, she's been freed from the conservatorship. Her case was different from Britney's because her mother (who was her conservator) agreed that the conservatorship should be ended.

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3 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

It varies by state, however, most guardian or conservatorship laws are designed to step in when a person is deemed incompetent to make their own decisions (this is different from involuntary commitment)….either about living arrangements, finances or medical care.  If the Petitioner, who files the petition, can prove the person is not competent to do these things, the Court  can appoint a Guardian to do it on their behalf. They appoint a family member, professional guardian or the County)  Evidence that someone is not competent might be squandering money, neglecting health, hygiene, etc.  If someone chooses to make these poor decisions they may, however, if the reason is due to incompetence, they may be placed under guardianship or conservatorship to protect them and their assets.  

So the “protection “ is only about money. Those who don’t have any don’t matter and can live on the streets. 

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32 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

So the “protection “ is only about money. Those who don’t have any don’t matter and can live on the streets. 

Sorry, I wasn’t  clear. Anyone could be found incompetent, regardless of whether they have money. If they had no funds, a public guardian would be appointed, who is normally the county. They’d figure out what the person qualifies for and arrange it, like disability, Medicaid, etc.     In my state there are 3 types of Guardians. One is General Guardian,  which handles all matters, including financial and healthcare;  2 is Guardian of the person who handles where they live, medical care, doctors, etc, and 3 is Guardian of the Estate, who handles financial only.  Some people may already have a POA who handles their money matters, so they don’t need help with that, but they have no one to handle their healthcare….if they have dementia or stroke, they may need that.   It can be complicated.  
 

Oh, more unrest.  Seems Ye is now getting verbal with other parents.  No t sure who was at fault.  
 

https://www.tmz.com/2022/10/31/kanye-west-ye-soccer-game-argument-storms-off/

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1 hour ago, Pearson80 said:

I wish that Ye would go away already and just leave us the hell alone.. 

Sorry to not make your night, but

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His last & final meeting, yeah, I bet it was his final meeting. 

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It's "LOSE"! "Loose" is the opposite of "tight." Gah. It's gotten to the point that I'll do a double-take sometimes when "lose" is used correctly because for a few seconds I'm thinking, that doesn't look right.

It does seem that there is a direct correlation to his stopping medication. I saw the TMZ episode where he spouted off the BS about slavery being a choice (Van Lathan, who was still working there at the time, was the only Black man who immediately called him out and never backed down during their heated exchanges over the course of that hour). A day or two before Kanye came into the studio Harvey Levin had taped an uneventful, off-site, one-on-one interview and that was when Kanye admitted that he'd just recently stopped taking his meds due to it basically interring with him being a visionary genius.

Speaking from lifelong experience, it can take years to find the ones that work, which takes a few months, then adjusting the dosages, and which combination of meds will be most effective. Something tells me he wasn't at all proactive or patient to fully explore ways, and not just medically, to improve his mental health that don't hinder his "creative process." Nor, for that matter, even comprehends the devastation he's causing due to his uncontrolled mental health.

The Kanye that came to the TMZ studios was totally different from the interview he'd just done with Levin. To me, his erratic behavior during the live episode, was the beginning of his downward spiral and IMO, it was because he'd just stopped taking his medication (and probably didn't even taper down first).

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16 hours ago, GaT said:

Sorry to not make your night, but

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His last & final meeting, yeah, I bet it was his final meeting. 

Yes your custody lawyer was trying to save your case by telling you to SHUT THE HELL UP.   Because if you go on one of  your rants in court, its game over.    Kim can afford VERY GOOD lawyers, if Kanye keeps blowing off his lawyer's advice its going to be a (figurative) bloodbath in the courtroom.   And Kanye will rant about how unfair the system is to fathers.   

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3 hours ago, Scout Finch said:

It's "LOSE"! "Loose" is the opposite of "tight." Gah. It's gotten to the point that I'll do a double-take sometimes when "lose" is used correctly because for a few seconds I'm thinking, that doesn't look right.

It does seem that there is a direct correlation to his stopping medication. I saw the TMZ episode where he spouted off the BS about slavery being a choice (Van Lathan, who was still working there at the time, was the only Black man who immediately called him out and never backed down during their heated exchanges over the course of that hour). A day or two before Kanye came into the studio Harvey Levin had taped an uneventful, off-site, one-on-one interview and that was when Kanye admitted that he'd just recently stopped taking his meds due to it basically interring with him being a visionary genius.

Speaking from lifelong experience, it can take years to find the ones that work, which takes a few months, then adjusting the dosages, and which combination of meds will be most effective. Something tells me he wasn't at all proactive or patient to fully explore ways, and not just medically, to improve his mental health that don't hinder his "creative process." Nor, for that matter, even comprehends the devastation he's causing due to his uncontrolled mental health.

The Kanye that came to the TMZ studios was totally different from the interview he'd just done with Levin. To me, his erratic behavior during the live episode, was the beginning of his downward spiral and IMO, it was because he'd just stopped taking his medication (and probably didn't even taper down first).

Exactly. If he's not even giving the medicine time to get in his system before he stops taking it like... Sir 🤦🏾‍♀️

51 minutes ago, merylinkid said:

Yes your custody lawyer was trying to save your case by telling you to SHUT THE HELL UP.   Because if you go on one of  your rants in court, its game over.    Kim can afford VERY GOOD lawyers, if Kanye keeps blowing off his lawyer's advice its going to be a (figurative) bloodbath in the courtroom.   And Kanye will rant about how unfair the system is to fathers.   

Exactly. 

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There’s a big difference between complaining about a business person who happens to be Jewish and complaining about a business person BECAUSE he’s Jewish. I haven’t read anything Kanye has said except for the headlines posted here, but I’m pretty sure he’s been doing the latter and the fact that he doesn’t get this blows my mind. Of course his custody lawyer is going to tell him to shut it, you don’t have to have a law degree to know this will hurt him in any custody case. 

As far as anyone trying to talk sense into him, sadly I don’t think it will work. If anyone tries to help him in good faith, he will turn on them and shut them out.  It’s just a really sad situation. 

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9 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

There’s a big difference between complaining about a business person who happens to be Jewish and complaining about a business person BECAUSE he’s Jewish. I haven’t read anything Kanye has said except for the headlines posted here, but I’m pretty sure he’s been doing the latter and the fact that he doesn’t get this blows my mind.

He absolutely gets it, he's a bigot, he doesn't care. 

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Ref. the discussion of Ye and medication…..I thought he said he doesn’t take medication.  He had claimed in writing that a Jewish psychiatrist improperly diagnosed him and tried to get him on meds, but he resisted and does not take meds.  And, Kim agreed with his decision to not take meds when they got married.  So, I’m just trying to figure out where there is any indication that he’s off meds.  
 

It seems more and more people are getting annoyed with his criticisms.  I guess Shaq set him straight.  He must be steaming.  

https://www.tmz.com/2022/11/04/shaquille-oneal-shaq-responds-kanye-west-twitter-feud-kyrie-irving/

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Ramses Ja and Quinton Ward, hosts of the weekly racial justice radio show Civic Cipher, are the legal owners of the "White Lives Matter" trademark for its use on clothing. They join CNN's Laura Coates and Alisyn Camerota to talk about the controversy of Kanye West wearing a t-shirt with that phrase.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2022/11/04/white-lives-matter-trademark-owners-kanye-west-intv-ctn-contd-hnk-vpx.cnn

Can't seem to just post the video, but I thought this was very interesting.

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How many others have edited out the racist/anti-Semitic/misogynistic things he's said over the years? Harvey Levin did it, now we find out about David Letterman? How many people have covered up for this asshole over the years?

David Letterman Netflix Show Cut Out Kanye ‘Ye’ West Comments on ‘Nazis’ and Rihanna Payback

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Netflix and David Letterman’s production company edited out comments by Kanye “Ye” West that referenced Nazis and blamed Rihanna for her own domestic abuse during a 2019 interview with the comedian for his talk show, multiple audience members at the taping told TheWrap.

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21 hours ago, GaT said:

How many others have edited out the racist/anti-Semitic/misogynistic things he's said over the years? Harvey Levin did it, now we find out about David Letterman? How many people have covered up for this asshole over the years?

David Letterman Netflix Show Cut Out Kanye ‘Ye’ West Comments on ‘Nazis’ and Rihanna Payback

Shame on all those who covered up for that creep.  Go away ye.. He is truly a terrible human being and I never thought that I would say this but Kim and the kids are better off without him..   

Why does he hate Rihanna?  He is defending that asshole who beat her.  Why am I not surprised that he hates a Black woman and celebrates her pain.  Kanye is so typical..  

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39 minutes ago, Pearson80 said:

Why does he hate Rihanna?  

He probably doesn't, he's a misogynist, he doesn't think any woman has worth, except to serve the men.

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Kanye flakes out on deposition in divorce hearing

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Kanye West continues to be anything but cooperative in his divorce proceedings with Kim Kardashian, blowing off a recently scheduled deposition ... and now he's got one more shot to get it right.

According to legal docs, obtained by TMZ, Kanye was supposed to get grilled by Kim's attorneys November 16 -- but for whatever reason, he never showed up. The docs state the parties agree the deposition will now happen November 29 at 9:30 AM.

If Kanye misses that date, it could be a serious issue for him, mainly because it won't sit well with the judge during trial ... which is set for December 14.

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3 hours ago, carolinagirl81 said:

We shall see what the judge will do if he misses the next deposition on the 29th and they go to trial.

And if the judge rules against him, we'll all be subjected to more rants about how the courts don't support Black fathers, & how the judge took his Black children away from him & gave them to their White mother. Not his fault at all, it's the color of his skin that's causing everything, not his actions.

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9 hours ago, GaT said:

And if the judge rules against him, we'll all be subjected to more rants about how the courts don't support Black fathers, & how the judge took his Black children away from him & gave them to their White mother. Not his fault at all, it's the color of his skin that's causing everything, not his actions.

Yep. Although somebody either put him back on his meds or took his phone away because he's been a little quiet these last few days and weeks. 

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Unfortunately, this is behind a paywall, but there are quotes from the article in the Reddit thread so you get the idea. If anyone already has Rolling Stone access & can copy the article in, I would appreciate it. 

New article from Rolling Stone states Kanye would show explicit photos of Kim and his own homemade porn to Adidas employees…

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Former Yeezy team members claim West showed them explicit images of Kim Kardashian and used fear and manipulation to assert dominance. A scathing open letter to Adidas claims execs "turned their moral compass off”

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No wonder this asshole thinks he can get away with everything, he can. People just cover up for him to make sure they can still line their pockets.

EDITED: I found a part of the Rolling Stone article:

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Narcissists can never be trusted because nobody else exists except as tools to be used - and, once that tool no longer does it job, it’s completely worthless.

Since Kim is a narcissist too, she likely made her deal with the devil knowingly. Poor kids.

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5 hours ago, nexxie said:

Narcissists can never be trusted because nobody else exists except as tools to be used - and, once that tool no longer does it job, it’s completely worthless.

Since Kim is a narcissist too, she likely made her deal with the devil knowingly. Poor kids.

Kim absolutely made her deal willingly. And brought 4 innocent kids into the nightmare. 

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18 hours ago, GaT said:

Unfortunately, this is behind a paywall, but there are quotes from the article in the Reddit thread so you get the idea. If anyone already has Rolling Stone access & can copy the article in, I would appreciate it. 

New article from Rolling Stone states Kanye would show explicit photos of Kim and his own homemade porn to Adidas employees…

Reddit link....

No wonder this asshole thinks he can get away with everything, he can. People just cover up for him to make sure they can still line their pockets.

EDITED: I found a part of the Rolling Stone article:

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I just learned about that on Twitter early this morning, Not by the rolling Stone of course but a gossip account I follow. 

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His behavior is getting scary.  I mean, it’s seriously scary how serious he seems to be with his hate.  Ugh…..I just deleted that tmz link to the story, because it has reference to a person not allowed on the boards.  But you can check it out about his trip with Nick Fuentes. 

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7 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

His behavior is getting scary.  I mean, it’s seriously scary how serious he seems to be with his hate.  Ugh…..I just deleted that tmz link to the story, because it has reference to a person not allowed on the boards.  But you can check it out about his trip with Nick Fuentes. 

So okay Kanye which one is it did our former president talked trash about your ex-wife or no because if that's the case I would not be having dinner with them.

I guess Kanye being kind of quiet after his previous weeks and days of ramblings was too much to ask for.

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There are more headlines saying that Ye is a lunatic in the media, but stuff I can’t post here per the rules.  Oh well, eventually there may not be anything we can post about him here.   I guess that’s not such a bad thing.  Lol

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Kanye West said IRS froze his accounts because he owes $50M in taxes

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“I’m talking about literally finding out that they were trying to put me in prison this morning,” Ye said. “But I found out — okay, so they froze, they put a $75 million hold on four of my accounts.”

“And then they said, ‘You owe a lot of taxes.’ Took me like six hours to find out how much ‘a lot’ was,” Ye said.

“Well, it was around $50 million.”

During the interview, Ye acknowledged that he was “obviously not the most financially literate person on the planet.” He said he asked “different CFOs” who were tied to his businesses whether he is evading taxes.

Oh yes please, put him somewhere nice & quiet.

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1 minute ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Was just about to post about this. For all his s*** and this anti-semite foolishness that he's been talking about This really hurts and I am sad for him and sad for his kids.

This is taking me back to Michael Jackson before he died because he was a f****** addict and his status and money had him going all kind of doctors for drugs.

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Unless he does something to someone or himself, nothing is going to be done about him, nothing can be done about him. He can't be 5150'd just for talking crazy, & honestly, I'm not sure he isn't saying all this crap just to keep himself in the news. The only news about him lately is the divorce being finalized, in other words, how his marriage failed, how much he has to pay in child support, how he has to give up his "spy" house. All things that make him sound like a loser. Ye's ego will never let that slide, so now he's back to praising nazis so everyone is talking about him.

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I’m am worried though.  People who are deluded into false narratives can spiral to places where they do scary things.  I wonder what his handlers would do if he did need intervention. I’d hate to have to work as his staff.  Man…..and they likely have signed NDAs.    

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1 hour ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I’m am worried though.  People who are deluded into false narratives can spiral to places where they do scary things.  I wonder what his handlers would do if he did need intervention. I’d hate to have to work as his staff.  Man…..and they likely have signed NDAs.    

It's a given that they've signed NDAs he's got so many properties who knows where he's stays on a consistent basis.

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7 hours ago, carolinagirl81 said:

Was just about to post about this. For all his s*** and this anti-semite foolishness that he's been talking about This really hurts and I am sad for him and sad for his kids.

This is taking me back to Michael Jackson before he died because he was a f****** addict and his status and money had him going all kind of doctors for drugs.

Kanye is an awful human being and he is showing us who he has always been. I was stunned by what he said on infowars.  I am so tired of Kanye and his vileness. 

What is his endgame?  what does he intend to accomplish with spewing so much hate?  Kanye hates himself and he wants the world to hate him as well..

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Kim may be concerned that if she files to keep him from the kids for their own protection, he could lose it.  That might really send him off.  But, it appears it’s going to become necessary.  That kind of talk would scare the older kids, because they know how wrong it is.  I would imagine she’s trusting that Ye’s security detail is really protecting the kids.  

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