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Kanye West: The Most Intelligent Celebrity


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2 hours ago, iwasish said:

Wonder what he’s doing for Mother’s Day?

Look at Kim's IG or Snapchat, I'm sure it will be ridiculously big & she's not going to miss the chance to tell everyone.

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2 hours ago, GaT said:

Look at Kim's IG or Snapchat, I'm sure it will be ridiculously big & she's not going to miss the chance to tell everyone.

Wall of white flowers? Orchestra?

Betting if they show Kris’s celebration they have the white porcupine cake that they have every damn party!

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Haven’t seen anything except pics of Kim and the kids, no Kanye. 

But he’s a free thinker, maybe he’ll think of Mothers Day on his own timetable. 

And Kims  not materialistic anymore so  I’m sure a phone call, text or card is enough. She’s not into showy extravagant excessive expensive demonstrations of his devotion. Low key is just fine for her.

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3 hours ago, GaT said:

Who isn't?

Remember him busting her in Cuba about her plans to be away on Mothers Day? She had to reschedule (oh the horror!!) her fittings and get to NYC later in the day.  I think that was the orchestra Mothers Day.

How quickly things change. 

I don’t see them together long term.

Maybe Tyler Henry can do a reading for her. 

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12 minutes ago, iwasish said:

I don’t see them together long term.

 

I don't see her being willing to be known as a 3 time loser if the marriage fails, she's going to stay married to him no matter what.

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Kanye isn't just working on his album but hes producing albums for other people. he's working on 5 albums altogether, apparently there are deadlines to have them finished.

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7 hours ago, GaT said:

I don't see her being willing to be known as a 3 time loser if the marriage fails, she's going to stay married to him no matter what.

I don’t think neither Kim nor Kanye wants a public divorce. So even if their relationship is pretty much over and they’re both living separate lives away from each other, they’ll always keep up the facade of a happily married, loving couple publicly. I think Kim is fine with that. She doesn’t want to divorce, but can’t stand Kanye so she’s happy on her own with her kids and nannies while Kanye is out there doing his own thing and spending time with his bestie. I think at this point in time they both found peace with this arrangement.

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2 hours ago, Aw my lahgs said:

I don’t think neither Kim nor Kanye wants a public divorce. So even if their relationship is pretty much over and they’re both living separate lives away from each other, they’ll always keep up the facade of a happily married, loving couple publicly. I think Kim is fine with that. She doesn’t want to divorce, but can’t stand Kanye so she’s happy on her own with her kids and nannies while Kanye is out there doing his own thing and spending time with his bestie. I think at this point in time they both found peace with this arrangement.

As long as he stays on his meds and doesn’t go rogue with his tweets. No way will they risk the backlash on their brand. I see him with an entourage and wonder how many of them are just paid handlers.

if she has to use the “well being  of the children” as an excuse she will. Besides  her idol Liz Taylor was married 8 times. 3 is just a start. 

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I think Kim and Kanye have been living separately for a while. The only time you see them as a complete family is when they drag the kids out for holiday photo ops. Otherwise Kim does her thing, Kanye does his. I think it's also important to note that what we may value in marriage (compatibility, friendship, commitment etc) doesn't really matter to these two. Kanye wants to be with the hot porn star and Kim wants access into A-list events. So in that sense, they're probably fine with the status quo.

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On 5/13/2018 at 9:49 AM, Misslindsey said:

Maybe he can hang out with the Southern Charm cast. 

I immediately started singing in my head "he's got money, he's in magazines, he's got more honey..."  mmmhmmm

 

20 hours ago, iwasish said:

Wall of white flowers? Orchestra?

Betting if they show Kris’s celebration they have the white porcupine cake that they have every damn party!

 

What is this porcupine cake?

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1 hour ago, heatherchandler said:

I immediately started singing in my head "he's got money, he's in magazines, he's got more honey..."  mmmhmmm

 

 

What is this porcupine cake?

They have it at almost all family events. A big white iced cake and the frosting is done  in little points ( think  white Hersey kisses) all over the top and sides. Looks like a  porcupine.

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24 minutes ago, iwasish said:

They have it at almost all family events. A big white iced cake and the frosting is done  in little points ( think  white Hersey kisses) all over the top and sides. Looks like a  porcupine.

I'm surprised I haven't noticed this, I usually notice what they are eating, and cakes they have displayed.  I am obsessed with that mango iced tea they are always drinking with their big salads.

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I think Kim and Kanye still live together. Not to say they don't have a weird materialistic marriage and he views her as a trophy wife but I do think they live together while they both travel extensively. They did take all the kids away together a few weeks ago and Kim went to Wyomming twice the last two weeks. However I think Kanye is too immersed in his work to fully enjoy fatherhood and is pretty disconnected from the kids. Kim could handle him being away a lot and probably considers it a break, the kids are too young to grasp. Kanye tweeted a few weeks ago that North acts up on purpose when she wants him to stop and play with her or just because he doesn't say "I love you" enough. I thought that was downright sad. 

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1 hour ago, heatherchandler said:

I am obsessed with that mango iced tea they are always drinking with their big salads.

I love mango iced tea, you can get it lots of places.

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33 minutes ago, GaT said:

I love mango iced tea, you can get it lots of places.

To quote Kourtney “try it in the large size... its life changing” (one of my all time fav Kourtney quotes) 

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Kanye is holding a huge album listening party in Wyoming tonight. Im 10 minutes into the live stream and its bizarre. There was a large crowd of people in what looked like a large barn, now everyone is outside by a bonfire. What in Gods name are they wearing though? Just when you think his clothing designs can't be more hideous

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36 minutes ago, howmanywords said:

Kanye is holding a huge album listening party in Wyoming tonight. Im 10 minutes into the live stream and its bizarre. There was a large crowd of people in what looked like a large barn, now everyone is outside by a bonfire. What in Gods name are they wearing though? Just when you think his clothing designs can't be more hideous

I guess Kim flew in from Washington.

does her shirt say “MOM K”?

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On 5/14/2018 at 4:58 PM, iwasish said:

To quote Kourtney “try it in the large size... its life changing” (one of my all time fav Kourtney quotes) 

My favorite Kourtney moment of all time is when Kim lost her diamond earring and she just went “there are people dying all over the world”.

So I’ve heard Kanye’s new album goes off on Tristan cheating and Kim and Kayne having problems and him telling Kim she can leave? Also apparently everyone likes it, from what I’ve seen on Twitter.. rave reviews. 

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Its way better than Pablo IMO but yeah its very raw. Talks about suicide, how being father has changed his views on women and his mental problems. The most revealing thing was in one song he mentions his "slavery" comment and says "Wife called saying we’re about to lose it all I had to calm her down, she couldn’t breathe. I told her she could leave me now but she wouldn’t leave. This is what they mean for better or for worse".

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When did he write all these songs? From what I read about them he’s singing about his comments on slavery. He just said that stuff a few weeks ago. How long did it take to pull his album together? 

The only Kardashian at this party was Kim. None of her sisters or her mom attended. 

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With today's technology and how most music is now distributed digitally it's pretty fast to get new songs out. Look at the Drake/Pusha T war that erupted this week..the two of them basically dropped songs within days addressing the others diss.

The only person connected to the K's I saw was Scott and it was sad. He was clearly drunk off his ass and looked a mess.

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3 minutes ago, howmanywords said:

With today's technology and how most music is now distributed digitally it's pretty fast to get new songs out. Look at the Drake/Pusha T war that erupted this week..the two of them basically dropped songs within days addressing the others diss.

The only person connected to the K's I saw was Scott and it was sad. He was clearly drunk off his ass and looked a mess.

Yeah Scott didn’t look good and according to e news daily pop, he was hanging off some random blonde girl and he’s still with Sophia Richie.

I like like two Kayne west songs and that’s from like decades ago, but I don’t think I’ll be a fan of this new album but I’ve already read things like people calling him a genius again. Which... okay. 

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Supposedly Kanye spoke about bipolar disorder, which is his super power.

 

 

3 hours ago, WhosThatGirl said:

Yeah Scott didn’t look good and according to e news daily pop, he was hanging off some random blonde girl and he’s still with Sophia Richie.

I like like two Kayne west songs and that’s from like decades ago, but I don’t think I’ll be a fan of this new album but I’ve already read things like people calling him a genius again. Which... okay. 

Sofia has been removed from Scott’s instagram - now the pics look like it was just Scott and the kids on vaca recently.

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1 hour ago, nexxie said:

Supposedly Kanye spoke about bipolar disorder, which is his super power.

 

 

Sofia has been removed from Scott’s instagram - now the pics look like it was just Scott and the kids on vaca recently.

Really? Weren’t Sophia and he just together on vacay last week?

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32 minutes ago, WhosThatGirl said:

Really? Weren’t Sophia and he just together on vacay last week?

Yes - just checked and Sofia’s instagram has a pic of the two of them in the water, but Scott only has pics with the kids. Also, supposedly Scott told people he’s single at Kanye’s music preview. Wonder whose idea it was to split.

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8 minutes ago, WhosThatGirl said:

Really? Weren’t Sophia and he just together on vacay last week?

Didn’t she just sign a contract to appear on KUWTK? 

How do we know this isn’t all so much fodder for next season.

Funny that Kanye sings  about Kim’s reaction to his slavery comment and it seems like it was all about her concerns over how it would affect the fortune. Not a word about it being an ignorant statement.

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1 hour ago, nexxie said:

Yes - just checked and Sofia’s instagram has a pic of the two of them in the water, but Scott only has pics with the kids. Also, supposedly Scott told people he’s single at Kanye’s music preview. Wonder whose idea it was to split.

 

1 hour ago, iwasish said:

Didn’t she just sign a contract to appear on KUWTK? 

How do we know this isn’t all so much fodder for next season.

Funny that Kanye sings  about Kim’s reaction to his slavery comment and it seems like it was all about her concerns over how it would affect the fortune. Not a word about it being an ignorant statement.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a story for the show. They do need story ideas, and yes they do have actual storylines with what Kayne does and goes through but since he appears on the show briefly and they very rarely talk about Kayne and what he does on the show.

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On 6/1/2018 at 12:29 PM, howmanywords said:

Its way better than Pablo IMO but yeah its very raw. Talks about suicide, how being father has changed his views on women and his mental problems. The most revealing thing was in one song he mentions his "slavery" comment and says "Wife called saying we’re about to lose it all I had to calm her down, she couldn’t breathe. I told her she could leave me now but she wouldn’t leave. This is what they mean for better or for worse".

He does realize this is her 3rd “for better or worse” right?

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5 hours ago, iwasish said:

He does seem to grasp that Kim’s main concern is the money. 

 

5 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Gee, how shocking that Kim's first concern was for herself and not the many people who were hurt by Kanye's remarks. 

I was watching TMZ the other day, & they were talking about Kanye's listening party & who was there. When Kanye went to TMZ & did the whole slavery is a choice thing, Van Lathan called him out about it. Van said that after that happened, he had lots of people sending him messages about how great it was that he didn't let Kanye get away with it.  And he also said that a lot of those people who sent him messages were at the listening party.  Kim isn't the only one more concerned about the money.

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1 hour ago, GaT said:

 

I was watching TMZ the other day, & they were talking about Kanye's listening party & who was there. When Kanye went to TMZ & did the whole slavery is a choice thing, Van Lathan called him out about it. Van said that after that happened, he had lots of people sending him messages about how great it was that he didn't let Kanye get away with it. And he also said that a lot of those people who sent him messages were at the listening party.  Kim isn't the only one more concerned about the money.

Sure they went to the party. They’re a not gonna tell Kanye he’s an asshole, they don’t have the balls, they would rather Van did it. And then they can go to the listening party and be cool and rub shoulders with Kanye and his buddies, get free swag and get to tell their homies that they’re besties with Kanye. 

How many real stars were there at the party ? Household names, not just within the rap community. No Kardashians,  no Kardashian hangers on. No Kris Jenner. Did these people pay their own way or did Kanye pick up the tab? From what little I saw it looked like everyone was more interested in having their picture taken with Kim and Kanye, than listening to the music. And the music was just a bunch of mishmash lyrics retelling his appearance and the fallout from it on TMZ. Nothing original. 

No wonder Kim is worried about money.   All his grandiose ideas are going to ending being funded by her pocketbook eventually as he alienates everyone who is anyone. 

Has JayZ commented on his remarks?

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There's a lot of ass kissing going on, but there are a lot of people who think Kanye is royal douchebag while they still like his music. This has been the case for years. When he was despised after the very first incident with Taylor Swift he still went on to win numerous Grammy's. Just look all over social media. The night of the party people were being mocked because a few weeks ago after the TMZ shit they were all "I'm done with Kanye", "Kanye is canceled" the same people were listening to the stream going on about how hes a musical genius.  

The event from what I understand was primarily music execs and journalists, people who worked on the album and Kanye handpicked some huge longtime fans.

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I saw the commercials for the Kardashians' Family Feud appearance and I'm embarrassed to admit I'm looking forward to watching it. Kanye looked like he was having a blast. It's sad he has so many issues because when he's in a good place he seems like a pretty cool guy to be around. 

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On 6/1/2018 at 11:29 AM, howmanywords said:

Its way better than Pablo IMO but yeah its very raw. Talks about suicide, how being father has changed his views on women and his mental problems. The most revealing thing was in one song he mentions his "slavery" comment and says "Wife called saying we’re about to lose it all I had to calm her down, she couldn’t breathe. I told her she could leave me now but she wouldn’t leave. This is what they mean for better or for worse".

He thinks THAT is as bad as it can get?  Losing "everything" - meaning losing money - they think that is the worst thing that can happen.  

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1 hour ago, heatherchandler said:

He thinks THAT is as bad as it can get?  Losing "everything" - meaning losing money - they think that is the worst thing that can happen.  

I wonder if she was that shook up over his idiotic comments possibly costing them “everything” what was her reaction to getting to robbed at gunpoint.

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I don't think Kim was just worried about the money, they would still have lots of money, Kim is worried about losing status. In other words, losing social media followers, losing KUWTK viewers, no more invitations to the Met Gala, no more being an A list celebrity, no more paparazzi calling for her photo. That's what she's afraid of losing.

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11 minutes ago, GaT said:

I don't think Kim was just worried about the money, they would still have lots of money, Kim is worried about losing status. In other words, losing social media followers, losing KUWTK viewers, no more invitations to the Met Gala, no more being an A list celebrity, no more paparazzi calling for her photo. That's what she's afraid of losing.

Oh I agree, but money is way up there too, especially since I suspect she maybe bankrolling a lot of his pipe dreams on the future.  Because if she tries to rein him in when he’s in a manic stage, he’ll accuse her of not supporting him. Probably write a song about it!

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On ‎6‎/‎4‎/‎2018 at 10:41 AM, BitterApple said:

I saw the commercials for the Kardashians' Family Feud appearance and I'm embarrassed to admit I'm looking forward to watching it. Kanye looked like he was having a blast. It's sad he has so many issues because when he's in a good place he seems like a pretty cool guy to be around. 

 

When does it air? I love a smiling, laughing Kanye.  I wish he'd show more of that side.

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