SFoster21 October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 (edited) The Feds work a little differently than State courts. J. Jackson Jr. and his wife got the same deal, 1 went in while the other stayed home, then they will switch places. I admit that I have never heard of it with regular criminals, those with out money that is, before, only wealthy criminals. I think Apollo got more time because this was his second Felony and there were many victims. IMO, Teresa and Joe got off easy. The Feds should have taken everything, houses, cars, furs, jewelry, construction equipment, ATVs, anything that did not belong to the girls and that could be sold. JMO Apollo was paroled out of his earlier sentence, so he has to serve the remainder of that sentence as well as a new sentence. Edited October 21, 2014 by SFoster21 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-487724
AnnA October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 The Feds should have taken everything, houses, cars, furs, jewelry, construction equipment, ATVs, anything that did not belong to the girls and that could be sold. JMO I wonder just how many of those things the Guidice's actually own. The houses are mortgaged to the max and the cars are probably leased. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-487730
msblossom October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 Even if those belongings, houses, etc. only fetch pennies on the dollar, they should be stripped from the Giudice's. How they can still live in that home and prance around in those clothes, jewelry and cars is beyond me. I do not get it. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-487771
AnnA October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 Even if those belongings, houses, etc. only fetch pennies on the dollar, they should be stripped from the Giudice's. How they can still live in that home and prance around in those clothes, jewelry and cars is beyond me. I do not get it. I agree with you. I wonder what the mortgage payment is on that house. The real estate agent said the taxes alone were over $60,000. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-487828
WireWrap October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 I wonder just how many of those things the Guidice's actually own. The houses are mortgaged to the max and the cars are probably leased. Sell her jewelry, their furs, designer clothes, what ever they can and send that money to the people they tried to swindle through their Fraudulent BK. Even if those belongings, houses, etc. only fetch pennies on the dollar, they should be stripped from the Giudice's. How they can still live in that home and prance around in those clothes, jewelry and cars is beyond me. I do not get it. ITA! When Andy asked them about finally listing their houses, they said there were some "nibbles" but no "serious" offers! That is because the beach and the Lincoln Park house are upside down and the banks have not agreed to any short sale on either house. Also, the asking price on the mansion is almost double the real market value it should be listed at. I believe they are asking this much in hopes of no one making a serious offer, that way they can say they "tried" to sell it but no one was interested in buying it and then they can keep living in the mansion, collecting rent from the LP house and enjoying the beach house. Well, that is if they can keep up with the mortgage payments and the taxes on all 3 places. They will fight to keep the mansion though and I will bet my last dollar, Teresa will understand everything her lawyers tell her to do so she can stay in it as long as possible! I agree with you. I wonder what the mortgage payment is on that house. The real estate agent said the taxes alone were over $60,000. I read the payments on the mansion were $12 K a month, I am not sure that includes taxes though. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-487831
LotusFlower October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 I think almost all of whatever money they had (liquid) went to pay their lawyers, and they might even be living hand to mouth now. Why else wait to pay the Court the $200k with the post-sentencing Interview check from Bravo if they have this much money laying around? I think it's possible that with the Bravo money drying up, no money coming in from their other companies/investments, and, of course, their new reality of prison and a constant IRS watchdog, they'll no longer be able to make the house payments. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-487877
AnnA October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 If it's true that Bravo wants to film S7 before Teresa goes to "college" they'll have that money to use. It was $750,000 plus bonuses for S6. It won't take long for them to go through that though. Their lawyer fees alone have to be astronomical. While Teresa is in prison, I don't see Joe being able to support that house or his daughters. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-487929
LotusFlower October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 If it's true that Bravo wants to film S7 before Teresa goes to "college" they'll have that money to use. Not happening. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-488027
WireWrap October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 If it's true that Bravo wants to film S7 before Teresa goes to "college" they'll have that money to use. It was $750,000 plus bonuses for S6. It won't take long for them to go through that though. Their lawyer fees alone have to be astronomical. While Teresa is in prison, I don't see Joe being able to support that house or his daughters. I am not sure that Bravo would offer as much as they paid them for this season. 1. They, Bravo, have Teresa/Joe over the barrel so to speak, they are desperate for money. 2. It would be another very short season because she leaves for prison in less than 3 months. 3. There is only so much poor Teresa the viewers will put up with, especially after this season. 4. Watching Teresa/Joe and the girls keep living the same over the top lifestyle and supporting it would not be good for Bravo as a whole. More and more viewers would get angry and stop watching Bravo. 5. I do not think Teresa will act any different nor allow the viewers to see what is really going on. 6. This is the most important 1 for me, it would be extremely cruel to film those 4 girls as the time gets closer to Teresa going to prison and it is NOT something I will watch and I think there are more like me than not. JMO 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-488055
msblossom October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 (edited) Sell her jewelry, their furs, designer clothes, what ever they can and send that money to the people they tried to swindle through their Fraudulent BK. When Andy asked them about finally listing their houses, they said there were some "nibbles" but no "serious" offers! That is because the beach and the Lincoln Park house are upside down and the banks have not agreed to any short sale on either house. Also, the asking price on the mansion is almost double the real market value it should be listed at. I believe they are asking this much in hopes of no one making a serious offer, that way they can say they "tried" to sell it but no one was interested in buying it and then they can keep living in the mansion, collecting rent from the LP house and enjoying the beach house. Well, that is if they can keep up with the mortgage payments and the taxes on all 3 places. They will fight to keep the mansion though and I will bet my last dollar Teresa will understand everything her lawyers tell her to do so she can stay in it as long as possible! I read the payments on the mansion were $12 K a month, I am not sure that includes taxes though. Exactly. Thank you. And if for no other reason, this is why Bravo needs to stop bank rolling these felons. No more contracts. No more interviews (they skirt the questions anyway, what's the point?). No more reality show. If they won't sell their mansion at a fair market value, then kick 'em out. Let them find real work like real people instead of paying them a salary of 3/4 of a million bucks. Edited October 21, 2014 by msblossom 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-488369
breezy424 October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 They can't put their house on the market for a fair market value because of the mortgages. Sirens Media is a business. They have proved over and over again that they have no social conscience. If Tre can bring in viewers, they make money. That's the bottom line. Bravo is a business as well. Just when you think that people are over Tre, WWHL has a poll and Tre is the favorite housewife. I don't believe that's actually true but it gives them something to think about. That's reality. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-488432
WireWrap October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 They can't put their house on the market for a fair market value because of the mortgages. Sirens Media is a business. They have proved over and over again that they have no social conscience. If Tre can bring in viewers, they make money. That's the bottom line. Bravo is a business as well. Just when you think that people are over Tre, WWHL has a poll and Tre is the favorite housewife. I don't believe that's actually true but it gives them something to think about. That's reality. But they have put both the shore house AND the Lincoln Park houses on the markets for less than what they owe on them, they are upside down and these sales are not listed as "Short" sales. They can list a house for any asking price but that does not mean they will sell them nor does it mean that the bank/mortgage companies will just go along with it. That is why I suspect this is just another scam they are running to stay in the mansion and use the beach house for as long as possible while gathering rent money from the LP house as added income. I have never bought into any of Andy's WWHL polls, I have known too many people that tried to vote in them and were unable to get through! I think they are rigged to sway the viewers to where Andy thinks it will do the most good for him/Bravo. They also tend to get viewers talking on social media where they can gauge/use the responses to their advantage. I remember on the old Bravo boards, we would suggest different scenarios or things for HWs to do/say and low and behold it would happen the next season word for word, and yes, I realize the HWs read those posts as well. Teresa even said that her fans told her she was a "victim" so she felt she really was 1! LOL Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-488481
happykitteh October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 (edited) Heather said, " At what point are WE harboring a criminal?" Is that the royal "WE" Heather? She is a HW, not a Bravo exec, lol. Learn your place Heather. And to answer her question, "If Bravo found out an exec had 41 felony counts would they keep him on the payroll?" YES, Ms. Pretentious Bitch, they would if he/she was still making bank! Bravo does not care about morality, they only care about making money. I have never bought into any of Andy's WWHL polls, I have known too many people that tried to vote in them and were unable to get through! I think they are rigged to sway the viewers to where Andy thinks it will do the most good for him/Bravo. Yes to this! A lot of those polls results don't make sense and I've long though they were rigged too. Tre may have won because the others in the poll are so suckworthy. It was like picking the best of the worst. Edited October 21, 2014 by happykitteh 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-488503
Kerrey92 October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 (edited) http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/teresa-giudice-dropped-by-crisis-manager-wendy-feldman-details-20142010 I don't understand this story. So, Wendy Feldman dropped Teresa because Teresa made a request to be placed at the women's prison in Connecticut. And this is a problem for Wendy, why? Is it because there is someone else's name attached to it? Or is this "just not done" in the inmate/felon/prisoner community, a request for a specific venue? Wendy is making it seem like this request is as bad at the Guidice's "forgetting" to put all their assets on the all requisite forms requested by the court. I don't get it. Edited October 21, 2014 by Kerrey92 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-488864
Baltimore Betty October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 I'm not a Teresa fan but I've never even heard the phrase "harboring a criminal." There are laws prohibiting "harboring a fugitive" but it's not illegal to hire someone with a criminal record. Did anyone else notice or think that Rosie seemed to be reading the prayer from her phone? Yes, she must have Googled the prayer for families of felons. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-488871
Scottish Girl October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 When I was in high school, a friends mom embezzled money from the bank where she worked. She did it to help pay her husband's gambling debts. They were both charged and served their sentences separately,so one parent would be home with the kids. The mom went first, just like Tre and Joe. Looking back, it was a terrible thing. Without mom around, the kids ran wild. Dad was depressed and nervous. He drank too much and was just a horrible parent. We had parties, coed sleep overs, and smoked lots of weed at their house. Dad was always totally absent. I'm so worried about The Guidice girls. My friends parents were basically normal people who screwed up royally one time. Juicy and Tee just aren't. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-488944
eurekagirl mOo October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 Can you imagine this? Teresa and the four girls all dressed alike with matching hot pink leopard suitcases trying to slyly sneak out of the country. I'm sure if they thought they could, they'd do it in a heartbeat though. Oh Oh Oh I'm getting a Sound of Music vibe--They all come up over the mountain singing as they escape!! My boss came by, looked at my PC screen and said "Are you going on a juice fast?" Because she saw Juicy Joe at the top LOL 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-489045
swankie October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 (edited) The Feds work a little differently than State courts. J. Jackson Jr. and his wife got the same deal, 1 went in while the other stayed home, then they will switch places. I admit that I have never heard of it with regular criminals, those with out money that is, before, only wealthy criminals. The Giudices shouldn't qualify since their wealth came from money they stole from others. I just don't think there should be a class system among convicted criminals. I feel for the children, but what makes their children more important than the average person's children? I think it stinks! Edited October 21, 2014 by swankie 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-489564
SoCal4Us October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 I'm just feeling some kind of way about how it seems that the Giudices are getting preferential treatment. I have never heard of letting a husband and wife crime duo serve their time one after the other that way. He doesn't start serving his time until she's done serving hers?! Get outa here!!! It's not like they don't have family to take care of their children while they are locked up. This really pisses me off! I'm already pissed that Apollo Nida gets 7 years and the Giudices only get months for their thievery. This is some bullshit!!! http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/jesse-jackson-jr-and-wife-sentenced Here's an excerpt: Experts say it’s not common that both parents get indicted simultaneously, however the notion that the Jacksons could be receiving preferential treatment because they have young children, or because of their political prowess, is false, simply because when children are involved, the court and prosecutors make special considerations. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-489668
LotusFlower October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 Here's a new item from TMZ: "Teresa Giudice wants to go only half way when it comes to serving her prison sentence ... but prosecutors are now saying over their dead bodies. Giudice is asking the judge for mercy -- to allow her to serve most of her sentence in a half way house. But we just obtained a letter prosecutors sent to the judge ... vehemently objecting ... claiming the judge made it clear she needed prison punishment, and nothing less. Teresa had sent a letter to the judge -- which we also obtained -- in which she seems to say she has a right under a law called The Second Chance Act to spend 12 out of the 15 months in the half way house. But prosecutors say the law doesn't give convicts the right to have their punishment watered down, so all her bellyaching should be ignored." 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-489700
racked October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/teresa-giudice-dropped-by-crisis-manager-wendy-feldman-details-20142010 I don't understand this story. So, Wendy Feldman dropped Teresa because Teresa made a request to be placed at the women's prison in Connecticut. And this is a problem for Wendy, why? Is it because there is someone else's name attached to it? Or is this "just not done" in the inmate/felon/prisoner community, a request for a specific venue? Wendy is making it seem like this request is as bad at the Guidice's "forgetting" to put all their assets on the all requisite forms requested by the court. I don't get it. I don't quite get it either. It doesn't seem to be that requesting a specific location is unheard of, Martha Steward requested it too. It sounds like Wendy is pissed that Teresa did this without telling her, but wow for a PR specialist to make the story about themselves is kind of crazy. My guess is the Guidices didn't pay their bill. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-489701
LotusFlower October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 I don't quite get it either. It doesn't seem to be that requesting a specific location is unheard of, Martha Steward requested it too. It sounds like Wendy is pissed that Teresa did this without telling her, but wow for a PR specialist to make the story about themselves is kind of crazy. My guess is the Guidices didn't pay their bill. I said the same thing on the episode thread. I think your guess about not paying the bill is a good one, or maybe she only took the case in the first place for her own publicity. Since the day she was "hired," all stories about the case had her name in it! WTF? Publicists or behind-the-scenes people never do that. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-489759
WireWrap October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 The Giudices shouldn't qualify since their wealth came from money they stole from others. I just don't think there should be a class system among convicted criminals. I feel for the children, but what makes their children more important than the average person's children? I think it stinks! I agree. A criminal is a criminal, white collar criminals for this conversation, no matter the size of their checking account or if they walk a dirty red carpet. No ones children should come before another's, except to that family. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-489761
msblossom October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 Here's a new item from TMZ: "Teresa Giudice wants to go only half way when it comes to serving her prison sentence ... but prosecutors are now saying over their dead bodies. Giudice is asking the judge for mercy -- to allow her to serve most of her sentence in a half way house. But we just obtained a letter prosecutors sent to the judge ... vehemently objecting ... claiming the judge made it clear she needed prison punishment, and nothing less. Teresa had sent a letter to the judge -- which we also obtained -- in which she seems to say she has a right under a law called The Second Chance Act to spend 12 out of the 15 months in the half way house. But prosecutors say the law doesn't give convicts the right to have their punishment watered down, so all her bellyaching should be ignored." It's starting to become all too real for Tre and she's squirming. Love it. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-489789
msblossom October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 Normally I would say something to the effect that now that prison is in Tre's certain immediate future that all the forging, lying, signing, failure to pay taxes, etc.she's done for that big tacky house, furnishings, and clothes isn't worth it now that she's going to the Big House and will be separated from her kids for 15 months. But you know what? I know darn well if she thought there was a chance to get away with it, she'd do it all over again. And no way she's committed to a squeaky clean life after she gets out. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-489815
merylinkid October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 She really doesn't want to go to jail. Of course there was a way to avoid that all along -- don't break the law. I really hope the judge doesn't cave and send her to a halfway house because she is a non-violent felon. She needs to do her entire time behind a fence with no outside trips during the day. She has no remorse, is still blaming everyone but herself and thinking she is special. I also think she didn't pay Wendy and Wendy needed a good excuse to get out without looking like she got conned too. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-489918
WireWrap October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 I don't quite get it either. It doesn't seem to be that requesting a specific location is unheard of, Martha Steward requested it too. It sounds like Wendy is pissed that Teresa did this without telling her, but wow for a PR specialist to make the story about themselves is kind of crazy. My guess is the Guidices didn't pay their bill. Part of Feldman's anger, if I read her statement correctly, is that Teresa and her new Lawyer wrote to the Judge NOT to the BOP. It is the BOP that assigns the facility according to the Judges wishes. Judge Salas recommended a "Camp'/minimum security facility for Teresa and 1 that is close to their home. The 2 that are closest to the Giudice home of Fraud, are in NYC and there is 1 in Philly as well. The NYC ones house all levels of inmates, from minimum to maximum security and I think the Philly one does as well, non are considered "Camps" though. Teresa and her new Lawyer should be writing to the BOP, that is what Apollo did and he got placed where he wanted to be placed. Normally I would say something to the effect that now that prison is in Tre's certain immediate future that all the forging, lying, signing, failure to pay taxes, etc.she's done for that big tacky house, furnishings, and clothes isn't worth it now that she's going to the Big House and will be separated from her kids for 15 months. But you know what? I know darn well if she thought there was a chance to get away with it, she'd do it all over again. And no way she's committed to a squeaky clean life after she gets out. That is the bottom line, Teresa would do it all again in a heartbeat if she could. She has learned nothing so far, nothing. She really doesn't want to go to jail. Of course there was a way to avoid that all along -- don't break the law. I really hope the judge doesn't cave and send her to a halfway house because she is a non-violent felon. She needs to do her entire time behind a fence with no outside trips during the day. She has no remorse, is still blaming everyone but herself and thinking she is special. I also think she didn't pay Wendy and Wendy needed a good excuse to get out without looking like she got conned too. I think Teresa blew any chance she had for leniency by lying on her paperwork in court at sentencing. All the prosecutors need to do is use the WWHL footage to show she has not stopped lying and blaming everyone else for what she did. Judge Salas saw through her before and will again IMO. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-489942
Bronzedog October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 As far as I know, I've never known a felon, but, I doubt any of them wanted to go to prison. Why should Teresa be the one that doesn't have to go? 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-489961
Lisin October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/teresa-giudice-dropped-by-crisis-manager-wendy-feldman-details-20142010 I don't understand this story. So, Wendy Feldman dropped Teresa because Teresa made a request to be placed at the women's prison in Connecticut. And this is a problem for Wendy, why? Is it because there is someone else's name attached to it? Or is this "just not done" in the inmate/felon/prisoner community, a request for a specific venue? Wendy is making it seem like this request is as bad at the Guidice's "forgetting" to put all their assets on the all requisite forms requested by the court. I don't get it. I don't quite get it either. It doesn't seem to be that requesting a specific location is unheard of, Martha Steward requested it too. It sounds like Wendy is pissed that Teresa did this without telling her, but wow for a PR specialist to make the story about themselves is kind of crazy. My guess is the Guidices didn't pay their bill. I think the bill issue could be part of it. But like WireWrap said above, I think the bigger issue is that Teresa, by having her new attorney write the request letter, ignored Wendy's advice. The article quotes Wendy saying it isn't the first time Teresa has ignored her either. I imagine Wendy knows that her reputation is being tarnished by Teresa not following Wendy's instructions so she fired her. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-489985
racked October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 I re-read the statement and Feldman doesn't say that they made the request to the judge. She says "My client relationships are very important to me, however today's filing regarding Teresa's Bureau of Prisons designation request was not done with my knowledge or input." Which makes sense that she's pissed, I completely understand why she'd want to stop having Teresa as a client. But to me doesn't explain why she'd make such a spectacle of it. She's the PR person, her job isn't to become the story. I don't think I'd want to work with someone who would trash-talk me to the press if I decided not to take their advice. It's just odd. But then again, anyone who would take Tre on as a client, when she's known for not paying her bills, must be a little crazy themselves. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490013
WireWrap October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 I think the bill issue could be part of it. But like WireWrap said above, I think the bigger issue is that Teresa, by having her new attorney write the request letter, ignored Wendy's advice. The article quotes Wendy saying it isn't the first time Teresa has ignored her either. I imagine Wendy knows that her reputation is being tarnished by Teresa not following Wendy's instructions so she fired her. I have to laugh about Wendy's comment about this not being the first time Teresa did not listen to her. Did this woman even bother to watch any of the NJ HW shows before she agreed to be on team Teresa? Did she never talk directly to Teresa for more than 10 minutes? Why after the first time Teresa ignored her did she stay on? I can understand Feldman wanting the paycheck but does she like pain that much? LOL The money ran out AND Teresa was making her look like a fool to the professionals she needs to do her job correctly/effectively! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490043
msblossom October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 As far as I know, I've never known a felon, but, I doubt any of them wanted to go to prison. Why should Teresa be the one that doesn't have to go? Because she's special...she didn't understand what she did was wrong. Because she's promised that she's going to read every word before she signs anything in the future. Because it was all Juicy's fault. She just didn't realize that she needed to disclose all her assets before going to court last time. Because she pays her taxes. Because her daughters need her. Because she works hard in all her businesses. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490060
Bronzedog October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 Oh, OK. Then she shouldn't have to go if she doesn't want to. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490076
WireWrap October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 I re-read the statement and Feldman doesn't say that they made the request to the judge. She says "My client relationships are very important to me, however today's filing regarding Teresa's Bureau of Prisons designation request was not done with my knowledge or input." Which makes sense that she's pissed, I completely understand why she'd want to stop having Teresa as a client. But to me doesn't explain why she'd make such a spectacle of it. She's the PR person, her job isn't to become the story. I don't think I'd want to work with someone who would trash-talk me to the press if I decided not to take their advice. It's just odd. But then again, anyone who would take Tre on as a client, when she's known for not paying her bills, must be a little crazy themselves. The earlier article quoted her saying that but she did not say it in her "press release". I think the original report/interview as 1 or 2 pages back. Also, there is a link to the report with copy of the letter the new Lawyer sent to the Judge on that same page. I tend to think that after seeing Teresa blame her legal "team", which would include Feldman to a degree, on WWHL would be upsetting to her. Teresa has now blamed everyone that was in court for her as well as the Judge and Prosecutors office of not doing their jobs by not explaining everything well enough to her. It will never be Teresa's fault in her warped mind, she will blame everyone for the rest of her life, this was done TO her but never BY her! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490083
LotusFlower October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 Because she's special...she didn't understand what she did was wrong. Because she's promised that she's going to read every word before she signs anything in the future. Because it was all Juicy's fault. She just didn't realize that she needed to disclose all her assets before going to court last time. Because she pays her taxes. Because her daughters need her. Because she works hard in all her businesses. Because she's going to work hard to make things right, whatever right means. (You forgot that one). 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490167
AnnA October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 Because she's going to work hard to make things right, whatever right means. (You forgot that one). I'm so glad someone finally brought that up. What a stupid thing to say! About Wendy Feldman............Since I knew nothing about her I googled her today and found out that she's a lot more than a PR person. http://custodialcoaching.com/ CBS "The Insider" calls Wendy Feldman "a real life Olivia Pope" Recently ABC News called Wendy Feldman "the best fixer around" Star of the E! series- Secret Societies of Hollywood as THE Alternative Sentencing Expert INCARCERVENTION™ Coming soon to televison 2015 If indeed she is anything like Olivia Pope, I can understand her "firing" Teresa. On Scandal I've heard Olivia Pope tell clients that she won't represent them if they don't follow her instructions to the letter. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490206
Maharincess October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 The earlier article quoted her saying that but she did not say it in her "press release". I think the original report/interview as 1 or 2 pages back. Also, there is a link to the report with copy of the letter the new Lawyer sent to the Judge on that same page. I tend to think that after seeing Teresa blame her legal "team", which would include Feldman to a degree, on WWHL would be upsetting to her. Teresa has now blamed everyone that was in court for her as well as the Judge and Prosecutors office of not doing their jobs by not explaining everything well enough to her. It will never be Teresa's fault in her warped mind, she will blame everyone for the rest of her life, this was done TO her but never BY her! Teresa has ALWAYS been that way. Nothing is ever her fault. That's why I have never liked her. If she's caught doing something, she has the standard toddler response.."you did it too" or "you've done worse". She has never taken responsibility for anything she's ever done. Why start now? 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490543
ButterQueen October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 (edited) If it's true that Bravo wants to film S7 before Teresa goes to "college" they'll have that money to use. It was $750,000 plus bonuses for S6. It won't take long for them to go through that though. Their lawyer fees alone have to be astronomical. While Teresa is in prison, I don't see Joe being able to support that house or his daughters.Wouldn't the IRS get this money though?They need to leave the mansion, and all their wealthy material goods. I'd rather the house stay empty or the bank offer it at a low price to an honest family. Or maybe some rich person can buy it and burn it to the ground. Someone please tell me the rent money they receive is used for debts--- now that they are convicted and no bankruptcy. Edited October 21, 2014 by ButterQueen Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490553
WireWrap October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 Wouldn't the IRS get this money though? They need to leave the mansion, and all their wealthy material goods. I'd rather the house stay empty or the bank offer it at a low price to an honest family. Or maybe some rich person can buy it and burn it to the ground. Someone please tell me the rent money they receive is used for debts--- now that they are convicted and no bankruptcy. The government, including the IRS, will set up a payment plan that takes about 20%-25% of what they make toward what they owe the government. Unless they default on those payments, the government will not take the houses or personal possessions. As for the rent they have been collecting this entire time, if there is still a renter, that is most likely going to the Giudice household costs and maybe that mortgage(s). I doubt that any of it is going to anyone from the BK attempt for repayment. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490591
hottesthw October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 I re-read the statement and Feldman doesn't say that they made the request to the judge. She says "My client relationships are very important to me, however today's filing regarding Teresa's Bureau of Prisons designation request was not done with my knowledge or input." Which makes sense that she's pissed, I completely understand why she'd want to stop having Teresa as a client. But to me doesn't explain why she'd make such a spectacle of it. She's the PR person, her job isn't to become the story. I don't think I'd want to work with someone who would trash-talk me to the press if I decided not to take their advice. It's just odd. But then again, anyone who would take Tre on as a client, when she's known for not paying her bills, must be a little crazy themselves. And again, this Wendy woman is not a lawyer. She has no more pull with the judge or prisons than I do. I can see her being pissed about Theresa not taking her advice too, but it's Theresa life and if she doesn't want to take Wendy's advice, she doesn't have to. Just like if Wendy no longer wants Theresa as her client it's her right to fire her. But like you said, as a PR person, it's not about you. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490593
AnnA October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 As I posted above, Wendy Feldman is a lot more than a PR person. But onto other things............ Apparently the prosecutors have fired off their own letter to the court opposing Teresa's request to go to a half-way house. https://tv.yahoo.com/news/real-housewives-teresa-giudice-prison-drama-crisis-manager-193200926.html Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490648
WireWrap October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 And again, this Wendy woman is not a lawyer. She has no more pull with the judge or prisons than I do. I can see her being pissed about Theresa not taking her advice too, but it's Theresa life and if she doesn't want to take Wendy's advice, she doesn't have to. Just like if Wendy no longer wants Theresa as her client it's her right to fire her. But like you said, as a PR person, it's not about you. Her reputation, whatever it is, is about her though. If this latest move by Teresa works out, then Feldman has egg on her face but if it fails or Teresa gets a warning from the Judge about it and other clients or potential clients of Feldman's might question her ability if they think she is still advising Teresa. If she just kept quiet about why she no longer chooses to advise her, Teresa could turn around and say that SHE really fired Feldman. People would then question/doubt any reason/explanation she, Feldman, then gave as to why she would no longer work with Teresa. That IS something I see Teresa doing, she has blamed everyone else so it is not beyond reason to think she would/will do the same to Feldman. IMO, Feldman is just getting ahead of Teresa's blame game to protect herself. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490653
WireWrap October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 As I posted above, Wendy Feldman is a lot more than a PR person. But onto other things............ Apparently the prosecutors have fired off their own letter to the court opposing Teresa's request to go to a half-way house. https://tv.yahoo.com/news/real-housewives-teresa-giudice-prison-drama-crisis-manager-193200926.html Does she really believe that she deserves special treatment? Does she not see how disliked she really is? SMH 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490674
AnnA October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 Her reputation, whatever it is, is about her though.................... IMO, Feldman is just getting ahead of Teresa's blame game to protect herself. I absolutely agree with you. Teresa is famous (infamous) for playing the blame game. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490682
AnnA October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 Does she really believe that she deserves special treatment? Does she not see how disliked she really is? SMH Shocking, I know but obviously Teresa thinks she deserves special treatment. I checked out Wendy Feldman's business online and one thing stood out........ "She teaches clients to GET REAL, GET OVER IT AND GET HOME so they can start earning back the trust they broke with their families and society." No wonder Teresa didn't always follow her advice and ultimately they parted ways. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490703
msblossom October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 Because she's going to work hard to make things right, whatever right means. (You forgot that one). How could I forget? Just smack me with a faux leopard Gucci bag to jog my memory, puhlease. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490705
LotusFlower October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 As I posted above, Wendy Feldman is a lot more than a PR person. She's a former felon who solicits clients by telling them she can guide them through the sentencing and imprisonment phase of their legal cases. Something a defense attorney can do, and does. But she positions her expertise as unique, and only stupid people buy it. Enter Teresa and Joe. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490707
racked October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 She's a former felon who solicits clients by telling them she can guide them through the sentencing and imprisonment phase of their legal cases. Something a defense attorney can do, and does. But she positions her expertise as unique, and only stupid people buy it. Enter Teresa and Joe. Ahh finally it makes sense. Well looks like these people were all made for each other. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490821
hottesthw October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 She's a former felon who solicits clients by telling them she can guide them through the sentencing and imprisonment phase of their legal cases. Something a defense attorney can do, and does. But she positions her expertise as unique, and only stupid people buy it. Enter Teresa and Joe. Well they do have that whole reality tv thing in common too. Birds of a feather... Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490841
AnnA October 22, 2014 Share October 22, 2014 (edited) She's a former felon who solicits clients by telling them she can guide them through the sentencing and imprisonment phase of their legal cases. Something a defense attorney can do, and does. But she positions her expertise as unique, and only stupid people buy it. Enter Teresa and Joe. There's no such thing as a "former" felon. She is a convicted felon and will always be one....just like Teresa and Joe Giudice. That's something Teresa will have to come to accept about herself. It never goes away. I have no personal knowledge of Wendy Feldman and just looked into her today. A defense attorney will be by your side through sentencing. Period. Andy Cohen asked Teresa about her conversation with her attorneys after sentencing and she told them she didn't have one. They were done. Unless you retain them (again) to appeal your case, they have nothing to do with your imprisonment. Once a person is sentenced, they are the responsibility of the Board of Prisons (Federal) or the Department of Corrections (State) and not the Judge. I doubt there are any sitting judges who would change their rulings - that's what appeals are for. In Teresa's case, her plea agreement states that she cannot appeal. Alternative sentencing (like a half-way house or rehab) is usually something given to drug offenders after a period of time in prison to help them with re-entry into society so I have no idea why Teresa or her attorney thought she would qualify. Sometimes a first time drug offender will be sentenced to rehab instead of prison. ETA: The letters written to Judge Salas on Teresa's behalf were written by her new attorney. She fired the previous attorney. http://www.realitytea.com/2014/10/21/teresa-giudice-attempts-convince-judge-give-house-arrest-hires-new-attorney/ Edited October 22, 2014 by AnnA Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/62/#findComment-490863
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