S02.E14: A Tough Old Bird

[jewel21]

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Bob and Abishola try to help a sad and volatile Kemi who, after being dumped by Chukwuemeka, struggles with the possibility that her happiest days might be behind her

Airdate: 04/19/2021

[greekmom]

This episode made no sense.

The actress playing Kemi is only 47 years old. She is still young enough to not go all grey like that.  And yes, I know some people go grey young but not to that extent.

The guy playing Chewie is 42. So his options for a wife who would be interested in having kids are severely limited unless he finds some woman in her middle 20s.  Even when in S1 when he was contemplating Abishola, she is in her late 30s.  She wouldn't be interested in having another kid. 

Best line tonight was Dottie about going to the casino in Sarnia, Ontario.

[Yeah No]

4 hours ago, greekmom said:

This episode made no sense.

The actress playing Kemi is only 47 years old. She is still young enough to not go all grey like that.  And yes, I know some people go grey young but not to that extent.

The guy playing Chewie is 42. So his options for a wife who would be interested in having kids are severely limited unless he finds some woman in her middle 20s.  Even when in S1 when he was contemplating Abishola, she is in her late 30s.  She wouldn't be interested in having another kid. 

Best line tonight was Dottie about going to the casino in Sarnia, Ontario.

I think the character of Kemi is supposed to be older than the actress playing her or I would agree with you.  I suggested that last season and got told I was wrong, but judging from the way she was made to appear in this episode I still think I'm right.  They are making her look post-menopausal, like she's at least in her early 50s if not older.  But even 47 is still considered old in some cultures.  A man of 42 is considered much younger for a man than 47 is for a woman.  I don't think it would be unheard of for a man that age to pick someone 10 or more years younger than him.  It actually might be pretty rare in that culture for a man to be in a relationship with a woman 5 or more years older than himself, especially if he wants children (or his family wants him to have children).

[Harvey]

5 hours ago, greekmom said:

This episode made no sense.

The actress playing Kemi is only 47 years old. She is still young enough to not go all grey like that.  And yes, I know some people go grey young but not to that extent.

 

I have a friend who is 33 years old. He is all gray already. It's really all up to genetics.

I loved that Bob and Abishola slept in the same bed. I rememeber a few episodes ago, his issue with their relationship was that they did not do that. It's nice that Bob finally got what he wants. And in general they were a harmonious couple this episode, like the way they joked and smiled at each other in the car while driving Kemi home, it's good to have these moments as a functioning couple since many people used to point out that they did not see what they liked in each other.

Edited April 20, 2021 by Harvey

[DoYouLikeMutton]

Clearly, the episode was focused on Kemi, but she STOLE THE SHOW!  I loved the interaction at the end with Kemi and Chukwuemeka's mother, and their interaction with Chuk.  Hilarious!  😁

[Winston Wolfe]

4 hours ago, Harvey said:

I have a friend who is 33 years old. He is all gray already. It's really all up to genetics.

I loved that Bob and Abishola slept in the same bed. I rememeber a few episodes ago, his issue with their relationship was that they did not do that. It's nice that Bob finally got what he wants. And in general they were a harmonious couple this episode, like the way they joked and smiled at each other in the car while driving Kemi home, it's good to have these moments as a functioning couple since many people used to point out that they did not see what they liked in each other.

Yep, genetics has a lot to do with it. Michael McDonald had a head full of grey hair by his late-30s, IIRC. I myself started greying about the same age, and by my mid-40s had a mane of silver hair which only seems to be getting brighter, lol.

Bob and Abishola seem to be getting closer as a couple and were so in-sync last night - I loved it!  And it was nice that she actually seemed to be looking forward to some after-dinner "fun time" with Bob, as couples sometimes do.

This show is really hitting its stride now and I'm glad I decided to stick with it.

[shapeshifter]

I thought Kemi looked beautiful in the mirror with her grey hair and no makeup, and thought maybe the plot would go in that direction. 

How are we, the viewers, supposed to understand the arrangement for a younger woman to have Cheuy's kids? Is this a surrogate thing, or is it more of a second wife?

[DanaK]

This was a good and entertaining episode

I actually thought Kemi might offer her grandkids to Cheuy's mom as stand-ins for blood-related grandkids, but maybe the culture doesn't think like that, otherwise that would have been brought up. I felt bad for Kemi when she called one of her sons and he didn't have time for her. Poor Cheuy is going to be so hen-pecked by his mom and Kemi, but at least Kemi can go toe-to-toe with the mom

[joanne3482]

1 hour ago, shapeshifter said:

How are we, the viewers, supposed to understand the arrangement for a younger woman to have Cheuy's kids? Is this a surrogate thing, or is it more of a second wife?

I was kind of thinking second wife based on the interview process. 

I'm not even positive Chukwuemeka wants kids. I don't know that they've ever talked about it and he seemed stunned with the whole kids thing. Perhaps there's a dearth of Nigerian women where they are, but he's dated 2 women both who already had families and were unlikely to want more kids. On the whole, without his mother, he seems like he could be a catch - good job, handsome, nice man, so if he's dating women who are unlikely to bear children, there's probably a reason. 

I did love Abishola going up against his mother after the Bible study in support of Kemi. That was a thing of beauty. 

[bad things are bad]

15 hours ago, greekmom said:

Best line tonight was Dottie about going to the casino in Sarnia, Ontario.

I missed that line...although of course that is totally off the table now, plus there are three casinos in actual Detroit and one in Windsor ON

[shapeshifter]

36 minutes ago, joanne3482 said:

I did love Abishola going up against his mother after the Bible study in support of Kemi. That was a thing of beauty. 

Oh yes! All the great bible verses that have been growing dust in recent years.

[tennisgurl]

The battle of the bible quotes between Abishola and Cheuy's mom was a wonder to behold, especially with Tunde and Olu's reactions. I especially loved when Abishola handed her coffee to Tunde so she could better get in Cheuy's moms face and quote even harder. 

Poor Kemi, the sad old vampire. If Cheuy's mom has so much control over his life and wants grandkids so badly, its kind of weird he isn't married to a younger women already. I guess no women except for Kemi could handle his many discussions about the Hangover. 

Bob and Abishola were a bit more in the background, it was really nice to see them as a very sweet functioning couple, they were totally in synch the whole episode. 

Edited April 20, 2021 by tennisgurl

[Kiddvideo]

10 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

How are we, the viewers, supposed to understand the arrangement for a younger woman to have Cheuy's kids? Is this a surrogate thing, or is it more of a second wife?

I felt second wife, but they weren't clear. Kemi just said a woman "to bear his children." Can you imagine willingly stepping into a situation where Kemi and Ogechi would be the dominant people in your life? Run! Run!

[possibilities]

I suspect Kemi is encouraging Mom's tendency to think no one is good enough for her son, and that might result in no one passing the interview and actually getting chosen.

[chediavolo]

On 4/20/2021 at 9:21 PM, possibilities said:

I suspect Kemi is encouraging Mom's tendency to think no one is good enough for her son, and that might result in no one passing the interview and actually getting chosen.

Yes. Otherwise it makes no sense that she would help his nasty mother find a wife for her son. 
min confused about Bobs mom still being in a wheelchair. Is her leg paralyzed? 

[Nialla]

On 4/19/2021 at 8:08 PM, greekmom said:

The actress playing Kemi is only 47 years old. She is still young enough to not go all grey like that.  And yes, I know some people go grey young but not to that extent.

My grandmother was totally silver by 20. Since genetics are fun, I started turning gray while I was still in high school. Still not totally gray, but it's a near thing. There's probably more early gray than you realize, thanks to hair dye.

On 4/20/2021 at 9:15 AM, shapeshifter said:

I thought Kemi looked beautiful in the mirror with her grey hair and no makeup, and thought maybe the plot would go in that direction. 

How are we, the viewers, supposed to understand the arrangement for a younger woman to have Cheuy's kids? Is this a surrogate thing, or is it more of a second wife?

I was actually hoping Kemi would embrace her age a bit, but I don't think that will happen.

It's not quite clear yet, but I think it's a second wife situation. I think Kemi's aiming for first wife status, with her and Chukwuemeka's mom selecting the second wife purely for the sake of having children. Since Nigerian marriages aren't exactly love matches, and the MIL gets grandkids out of the deal, as long as the second wife knows what she's getting into, it could work. Though I can't quite picture Kemi setting aside jealousy of a second wife and worrying that her husband will be more interested in her once she has kids, not to mention being jealous of the kids too.

The Bible Showdown was great. It's nice to see Abishola defending Kemi on their home turf, so to speak. A more subtle thing I liked seeing was Bob and Chukwuemeka talking about the breakup at the pharmacy. Bob's still sometimes baffled by Nigerian culture, but he always seems willing to listen.

[floridamom]

I found it sad when Kemi called her daughter on the phone and she seemed to always be too busy to have a relationship with her mother. Kemi was heartbroken. I took it as a step trying to connect with her family who barely gives her the time of day. Kemi is brokenhearted and lonley. Perhaps that is why she is so gung ho about Chewy. She has companionship and love (she'll take the sex as love and attention.) Sadly, she is a lonely woman who would welcome the affection of her daughter. The phone call was a tender moment. Well done.

[Keywestclubkid]

On 4/22/2021 at 6:48 AM, chediavolo said:

min confused about Bobs mom still being in a wheelchair. Is her leg paralyzed? 

I think that half of her body was paralyzed and she hasn't regained the ability to walk yet 

[bad things are bad]

On 4/24/2021 at 4:57 PM, floridamom said:

I found it sad when Kemi called her daughter on the phone and she seemed to always be too busy to have a relationship with her mother.

Reminds me of Cat's in the Cradle, where it was the father who didn't have time for his son, and then when Dad wanted more of a relationship, the son wasn't interested. Maybe Kemi distanced herself first and the daughter is reacting to that. 

[AnimeMania]

24 minutes ago, bad things are bad said:

On 4/24/2021 at 4:57 PM, floridamom said:

I found it sad when Kemi called her daughter on the phone and she seemed to always be too busy to have a relationship with her mother.

Reminds me of Cat's in the Cradle, where it was the father who didn't have time for his son, and then when Dad wanted more of a relationship, the son wasn't interested. Maybe Kemi distanced herself first and the daughter is reacting to that. 

I thought it might have been at what time she called him that could of had something to do with it, it was probably 5 am in the morning.

[sd dude]

On 4/20/2021 at 4:07 AM, DoYouLikeMutton said:

Clearly, the episode was focused on Kemi, but she STOLE THE SHOW!  I loved the interaction at the end with Kemi and Chukwuemeka's mother, and their interaction with Chuk.  Hilarious!  😁

This may be the first episode of the series that had me literally LOL.  I've seen every episode, enjoy the premise, generally find it entertaining, but don't always think it that humorous.  The irony is I have never enjoyed Kemi as a character or what she has to say - until this episode!

"Let me rephrase that. . ." - hilarious.

And I second that the last act with Kemi and Chewie's mom was very funny.  I think what we would find unbearable and intolerable, Chewie considers paradise.  He now has two moms, basically, one of whom gives him great sex.  (I know, you and I say GROSS!, but it's clearly exactly what he is looking for.)  Find him a nice young fertile womb to impregnate, and his life will be perfect.

P.S. I lied about not LOL at earlier episodes.  I almost choked on my water during the episode with the robot vacuum cleaner, when Auntie said, "Why don't you just sleep with it, too!" and Uncle answers, "Is that possible?"

[Deevah4ever]

On 4/19/2021 at 9:08 PM, greekmom said:

This episode made no sense.

The actress playing Kemi is only 47 years old. She is still young enough to not go all grey like that.  And yes, I know some people go grey young but not to that extent.

Actually Gina Yashere (Kemi) was wearing a wig on top of a wig.  I follow her on SM...she is not grey, at all.  Also her hair is cut into a low fade.

[femmefan1946]

On 4/20/2021 at 8:21 AM, DanaK said:

This was a good and entertaining episode

I actually thought Kemi might offer her grandkids to Cheuy's mom as stand-ins for blood-related grandkids, but maybe the culture doesn't think like that, otherwise that would have been brought up.

When Abishola's husband left her and returned to Nigeria, he took a second wife, without divorcing first. Should we assume that in Nigeria, even in Christian communities, polygamy is acceptable?

Kemi and the mother seemed to be setting up an informal polygamous relationship for Chuy. And the young woman they were interviewing was American, going by her accent.

[DanaK]

2 hours ago, femmefan1946 said:

When Abishola's husband left her and returned to Nigeria, he took a second wife, without divorcing first. Should we assume that in Nigeria, even in Christian communities, polygamy is acceptable?

 

I have read that polygamy is acceptable in some areas of the country for Muslims and that some Christians will partake of the practice because the local authorities won’t police it by religion