S03.E01: Keep on Truckin' Six Feet Apart

[peacheslatour]

10 hours ago, Annber03 said:

And if all you have is a high school degree, that limits your options even more. 

I know, from working in land surveying, many people with a trade school certification who make very good money in the trades. Electricians, plumbers and land surveyors have Union jobs and many benefits.

[Winston Wolfe]

18 hours ago, Irate Panda said:

Yes, my disdain is mostly for Darlene.  Becky has some redeeming qualities, but Darlene seemed to think she was just too good for everything.  Roseanne could do the work when she wanted to like at the factory, but would be totally lazy at other jobs like Rodbells.  Her attitude stunk pretty much everywhere except maybe the hair salon.  I don’t remember that part very well.

I had many of the same thoughts, but hadn't posted them. To a great degree Roseanne and Darlene are/were their own worst enemies. Nothing about either is/was so endearing that other people should feel compelled to put up with their bad attitudes. Even Ben half-joked about Darlene's sour face. At least the adult version of Becky has cultivated some degree of people skills (as evidenced by wearing her mother's old jacket at the job interview), so she has a small measure of hope.

Re: the Hair Salon - Roseanne seemed relatively happy there, but the Owner was elitist and always commented on Dan and Roseanne's weight issues, which was borderline inappropriate, IMO.

11 hours ago, qtpye said:

If this series had not come out, I would assume Dan was leading a nice retirement, with his house paid off, and his beloved wife by his side so they could snark with each other during their golden years.

Instead, he is actually much worse off then he was 25 years ago. However, the show is probably very realistic to what it would be like today for a family like this. A generation ago, you could have a nice life with a high school degree and almost guaranteed factory work with Union wages and benefits.

Kind of depressing, isn't it? As a group, other than DJ, this family is worse off than when the original series ended. And now there's a next generation of grandchildren for the poverty and misery to trickle down to.

Edited October 26, 2020 by Winston Wolfe

[readster]

4 hours ago, Winston Wolfe said:

I had many of the same thoughts, but hadn't posted them. To a great degree Roseanne and Darlene are/were their own worst enemies. Nothing about either is/was so endearing that other people should feel compelled to put up with their bad attitudes. Even Ben half-joked about Darlene's sour face. At least the adult version of Becky has cultivated some degree of people skills (as evidenced by wearing her mother's old jacket at the job interview), so she has a small measure of hope.

Re: the Hair Salon - Roseanne seemed relatively happy there, but the Owner was elitist and always commented on Dan and Roseanne's weight issues, which was borderline inappropriate, IMO.

Kind of depressing, isn't it? As a group, other than DJ, this family is worse off than when the original series ended. And now there's a next generation of grandchildren for the poverty and misery to trickle down to.

I know, how true. I mean Harris is honestly burying her hole since Day 1 and still hasn't gotten a reality check. Mark keeps getting dumped on, hell Jackie could have had a retirement as a desk job in the police of if Bev would have just said in 2008. Here is the money from the Lunch Box, good luck in life and been done with it. Of course as we have pointed out they are all in worst shape and while DJ seems to have no real "direction" as the show makes it up as it goes based on the actor's schedule. Seriously, Becky has at least a chance of trying to get somewhere in life. Darelene and pretty much screwed herself over and still plays the victim because she is this "know it all, and it's her way, that's best." That got her mother where? Oh yes, poor and dead. 

[peacheslatour]

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I mean Harris is honestly burying her hole since Day 1 

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[Chaos Theory]

I hate to say it but half of the Conners problem is the Conners.   Even during the OG series there was that episode where Roseanne got that preemo office job but then found out she needed to know computers.   Heck when Darlene turned down that job at one point there was that big fight about how selfish she was wanting to educate herself instead of working whatever low level jobs that got offered to her.  
 

This show has never been about bettering themselves.    It actually does  remind me a lot of Shameless which is ironic considering the actress who plays Harris is a main character on that.   For both shows to work everything has to remain static.  Every success has to have an equal and opposite failure.  

Edited October 26, 2020 by Chaos Theory

[qtpye]

49 minutes ago, Chaos Theory said:

I hate to say it but half of the Conners problem is the Conners.   Even during the OG series there was that episode where Roseanne gut that preemo office job big then found out she needed to know computers.   Heck when Darlene turned down that job at one point there was that big fight about how selfish she was wanting to educate herself instead of working whatever low level jobs that get offered to her.   This show has never been about bettering themselves.    It actually does  remind me a lot of Shameless which is ironic considering the actress who plays Harris is a main character on that.   For both shows to work everything has to remain static.  Every success has to have an equal and opposite failure.  

I've talked about Dan being stupid with money (though I love him) but the truth is the family never had any understanding of money or education.

There are great gems in the past, which I highly recommend to any newbies who did not watch the original (the whole series is free on Amazon Prime) which include not understanding financial aid (the internet was not as useful back then), loaning friends money for pride, being angry your daughter got into writing school (because that means she is going to leave you), assuming your other daughter will automatically get into medical school because she is "thinking" about starting college, and leaving a secure government job for contract work that will have a definite ending point. There are many others that make you want to smack your head in disbelief.

It was further showcases how stupid Darlene is when Harris got into that "fake college". I liked the way Harris immediately knew it was a scam but Darlene was clueless.

Instead, she should have seen if her daughter would qualify for low income grants. Also, at that time Harris was acting like a brat and I did not think she would take college seriously. She actually improved a great deal after she left Darlene and moved in with her pot smoking friend. Darlene should also be suing David for back child support (not that he has anything, either).

6 hours ago, Winston Wolfe said:

I had many of the same thoughts, but hadn't posted them. To a great degree Roseanne and Darlene are/were their own worst enemies. Nothing about either is/was so endearing that other people should feel compelled to put up with their bad attitudes. Even Ben half-joked about Darlene's sour face. At least the adult version of Becky has cultivated some degree of people skills (as evidenced by wearing her mother's old jacket at the job interview), so she has a small measure of hope.

Re: the Hair Salon - Roseanne seemed relatively happy there, but the Owner was elitist and always commented on Dan and Roseanne's weight issues, which was borderline inappropriate, IMO.

Kind of depressing, isn't it? As a group, other than DJ, this family is worse off than when the original series ended. And now there's a next generation of grandchildren for the poverty and misery to trickle down to.

Isn't it kind of funny how back in the eighties/nineties...dieting was always an extreme only eating celery and drinking water type of thing? The owner was kind of patronizing but was probably the nicest boss Roseanne had after Booker.

[UYI]

I'm about a billion years late here due to being VERY busy at work, so there really isn't much more that I can add here that hasn't already been said, but I will say this:

After so many weak spots during season 2, season 3 already feels SO much better, and MUCH more authentic to the spirit of the show and its characters. I'm sorry it took a global pandemic for that to happen, but here we are.

One side effect of the show returning in a COVID world, though, is the obvious fact that all of these actors have to be six feet apart at all times, while at the same time playing a family that lives together...even though they can't actually get close enough to actually SHOW that those characters make up a family who live together.

It's for that reason alone that I got VERY nervous when Dan & Louise hugged...I know the entire cast and crew are probably getting tested like crazy, but any kind of physical interaction between people who don't live together makes me cringe out of habit these days...and I especially worry about John Goodman's health in particular in this climate.

Finally, I think the joke about forgetting Mark's birthday was about how the days have started to blend together during quarantine...but if there was to be a joke about his birthday specifically, it probably would have been in better taste for it to be about having a "scaled-down" celebration, as people with birthdays since mid-March have been forced to do, just saying.

The lack of DJ and Mary made sense--they don't live there, but I DO hope we at least see some Zoom calls between them and the rest of the family.

The whole idea of TV shows being back in production at all right now still makes me a bit skittish, no matter how safe they try to make things on set, but if this first episode is any indication, at least we can expect some good stuff from season 3, which definitely makes me very happy. :) 

Edited October 27, 2020 by UYI

[Winston Wolfe]

7 hours ago, Chaos Theory said:

Even during the OG series there was that episode where Roseanne got that preemo office job but then found out she needed to know computers.

That was one of the few times we ever saw Roseanne show any kind of humility. She really needed that job and was clearly intimidated by the prospect of working in an office. The employer (played by Madge Sinclair IIRC) was ready to hire Roseanne on the spot if not for the lack of PC skills. After that, most people would have run to the local public library to take some free PC classes or read a book about basic computer operation. But as far as we know Roseanne never did. Just another case of a Conner shooting themselves in the foot.

[qtpye]

On 10/27/2020 at 1:29 AM, Winston Wolfe said:

That was one of the few times we ever saw Roseanne show any kind of humility. She really needed that job and was clearly intimidated by the prospect of working in an office. The employer (played by Madge Sinclair IIRC) was ready to hire Roseanne on the spot if not for the lack of PC skills. After that, most people would have run to the local public library to take some free PC classes or read a book about basic computer operation. But as far as we know Roseanne never did. Just another case of a Conner shooting themselves in the foot.

That was another thing...Roseanne never seemed motivated to change her life in any way. She loved to complain and blame most of her failures on having a family but she really did not have much in the way of drive or focus.

I wonder if part of Darlene's ego is due to Becky being the sister that was supposed to make it and Darlene being the screw up. Becky was on student council and made good grades but Darlene is the one who actually went on to get a degree.

I think working for the factory burst Darlene's bubble that she is doing better than Becky. They are both in the same boat at this point.

Of course, Darlene could hustle and self publish but she kind of needs to get over herself, first.

Edited October 28, 2020 by qtpye

[AllyB]

I'm quoting the review on the main page here.

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"We're not supposed to be going backwards. We're going to end up as immigrants on a ship back to Ireland." This "joke" has barely left her lips before she has an even more horrifying thought: "Oh my God, what if they don't hire us?"

What the hell kind of ignorant comment is this both within the show and the review? Ireland is a first world extremely wealthy European nation with one of the world's highest living standards (3rd, according to the most recent UN data). It's highly, highly socialised and as a constitutional republic with proportional representation at all forms of government one of the world's best democracies. (One of only 22 Full Democracies on the planet which the USA is not.) One of the very, very first things that the Irish government did at the start of the pandemic was to set up a generous pandemic unemployment payment and a variety of assistances to small businesses to cover losses due to lockdown and venue capacity limits. As well as make evictions from either owned or rented homes illegal. A household with 4 adults and 3 kids would have been had a state income equivalent of over US$1750 a week during lockdown and then various supports as businesses reopened.

It's also a country where my experience of long Covid meant I needed numerous phone and in person doctor and hospital examinations, lung x-rays, EKGs, bloodtests and a variety of medications. And my only worries needed to be about my health, as all that care cost me less than the equivalent of US$10 of money that the government gave me in the first place. Darlene and Becky should be so lucky as to be immigrating to Ireland, (especially when university education for children of low income families costs nada) though they probably wouldn't actually get resident visas.

Edited October 27, 2020 by AllyB

[peacheslatour]

2 hours ago, AllyB said:

I'm quoting the review on the main page here.

What the hell kind of ignorant comment is this both within the show and the review? Ireland is a first world extremely wealthy European nation with one of the world's highest living standards (3rd, according to the most recent UN data). It's highly, highly socialised and as a constitutional republic with proportional representation at all forms of government one of the world's best democracies. (One of only 22 Full Democracies on the planet which the USA is not.) One of the very, very first things that the Irish government did at the start of the pandemic was to set up a generous pandemic unemployment payment and a variety of assistances to small businesses to cover losses due to lockdown and venue capacity limits. As well as make evictions from either owned or rented homes illegal. A household with 4 adults and 3 kids would have been had a state income equivalent of over US$1750 a week during lockdown and then various supports as businesses reopened.

It's also a country where my experience of long Covid meant I needed numerous phone and in person doctor and hospital examinations, lung x-rays, EKGs, bloodtests and a variety of medications. And my only worries needed to be about my health, as all that care cost me less than the equivalent of US$10 of money that the government gave me in the first place. Darlene and Becky should be so lucky as to be immigrating to Ireland, (especially when university education for children of low income families costs nada) though they probably wouldn't actually get resident visas.

They're probably as ignorant of that as they are about everything else. I took it as more of a joke about how they are regressing instead of making progress.

[chitowngirl]

On 10/23/2020 at 9:42 AM, theredhead77 said:

Re: appearances. John Goodman lost a significant amount of weight late in life and his appearance is a reflection of his skin not bouncing back + age + pandemic lack of haircuts and whatever costume designs they made for Dan.

I just saw a commercial for Fisher Price with John Goodman. He looks so much better here than he does as Dan, so I suspect he is purposely looking beaten down for the show.

[theredhead77]

On 10/27/2020 at 10:17 PM, chitowngirl said:

I just saw a commercial for Fisher Price with John Goodman. He looks so much better here than he does as Dan, so I suspect he is purposely looking beaten down for the show.

So much better. It's from 2919 and I'll post it in the favorite commercials thread but I just want to encourage everyone to check it out.

Edited November 2, 2020 by theredhead77
Corrected the year. I don't have a time machine and 2919 hasn't happened yet.

[Yeah No]

On 10/26/2020 at 12:44 AM, qtpye said:

Yeah, Roseanne's problem was that many of her jobs were customer service oriented, which really brought out the worst in her. However, when it came to behind the scenes she could be pretty good.

I remember when she got fired from the fast food chicken place. Her manager wanted her to work weekends because she was their fastest worker and she wanted to spend that time with her family.

If this series had not come out, I would assume Dan was leading a nice retirement, with his house paid off, and his beloved wife by his side so they could snark with each other during their golden years.

Instead, he is actually much worse off then he was 25 years ago. However, the show is probably very realistic to what it would be like today for a family like this. A generation ago, you could have a nice life with a high school degree and almost guaranteed factory work with Union wages and benefits.

Now, a college degree does not even guarantee you that type of security. Dan and Roseanne made plenty of mistakes but there was a bit of a safety net. Darlene and Becky made plenty of mistakes and their only safety net is their father's heavily mortgaged home. In their 40's, neither of them have achieved what their parents were able to accomplish by the end of their 20's.

I think this show is realistic in that a lot of Baby Boomer's "safety nets" have disappeared.  Before recently even people as ignorant about finances as the Connors could end up OK in spite of themselves.  Now even if you know something you can end up on the losing end of the equation thanks to all kinds of volatility in real estate, the economy, etc.

On 10/26/2020 at 11:27 AM, peacheslatour said:

I know, from working in land surveying, many people with a trade school certification who make very good money in the trades. Electricians, plumbers and land surveyors have Union jobs and many benefits.

True, but one of the problems is that not a lot of young people want to go into "the trades" anymore - probably due to rising expectations and the fact that a 4 year college degree is seen as the minimum to get anywhere in life, plus "blue collar" work being looked down upon more these days - which actually works more to their disadvantage because of what you say above about these jobs making good money.

[Yeah No]

19 hours ago, AllyB said:

I'm quoting the review on the main page here.

What the hell kind of ignorant comment is this both within the show and the review? Ireland is a first world extremely wealthy European nation with one of the world's highest living standards (3rd, according to the most recent UN data). It's highly, highly socialised and as a constitutional republic with proportional representation at all forms of government one of the world's best democracies. (One of only 22 Full Democracies on the planet which the USA is not.) One of the very, very first things that the Irish government did at the start of the pandemic was to set up a generous pandemic unemployment payment and a variety of assistances to small businesses to cover losses due to lockdown and venue capacity limits. As well as make evictions from either owned or rented homes illegal. A household with 4 adults and 3 kids would have been had a state income equivalent of over US$1750 a week during lockdown and then various supports as businesses reopened.

It's also a country where my experience of long Covid meant I needed numerous phone and in person doctor and hospital examinations, lung x-rays, EKGs, bloodtests and a variety of medications. And my only worries needed to be about my health, as all that care cost me less than the equivalent of US$10 of money that the government gave me in the first place. Darlene and Becky should be so lucky as to be immigrating to Ireland, (especially when university education for children of low income families costs nada) though they probably wouldn't actually get resident visas.

It was not an ignorant comment, IMHO.  I took the comment in historical context - She was referring to going back to what Ireland was like when HER family came over here, not what it's like NOW.  Generations ago when thousands of Irish people came here Ireland was a depressed place that people fled from for a better life and understandably so if you know what it was like.  You can't compare Ireland now with Ireland of 100 years ago or more.  In fact, Irish people were discriminated against by the WASP population when they came to the US in the 1800's and weren't even considered human.  That is a fact.  That's history.  Watch the movie "Gangs of New York" with Leo DiCaprio.

[Annber03]

Yeah, that's how I interpreted that "Ireland" comment, too.

10 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

I think this show is realistic in that a lot of Baby Boomer's "safety nets" have disappeared.  Before recently even people as ignorant about finances as the Connors could end up OK in spite of themselves.  Now even if you know something you can end up on the losing end of the equation thanks to all kinds of volatility in real estate, the economy, etc.

True, but one of the problems is that not a lot of young people want to go into "the trades" anymore - probably due to rising expectations and the fact that a 4 year college degree is seen as the minimum to get anywhere in life, plus "blue collar" work being looked down upon more these days - which actually works more to their disadvantage because of what you say above about these jobs making good money.

This. Automation continues to be a factor as well, and then there's some jobs that, even if they don't require a degree, still want some level of experience. But if you don't have that experience, it's hard to get hired. Yet you can't get that experience if nobody hires you. So it becomes a vicious cycle. 

[AllyB]

2 hours ago, Yeah No said:

It was not an ignorant comment, IMHO.  I took the comment in historical context - She was referring to going back to what Ireland was like when HER family came over here, not what it's like NOW.  Generations ago when thousands of Irish people came here Ireland was a depressed place that people fled from for a better life and understandably so if you know what it was like.  You can't compare Ireland now with Ireland of 100 years ago or more.  In fact, Irish people were discriminated against by the WASP population when they came to the US in the 1800's and weren't even considered human.  That is a fact.  That's history.  Watch the movie "Gangs of New York" with Leo DiCaprio.

Ireland wasn't a 'depressed' place, it was an abused colony undergoing repeated near genocides of it's native peoples, most especially in the 1840s. A country that struggled hard in it's early decades of independence until it reaped the benefits of joining what has become the world's most powerful trading bloc. Ireland isn't a static, mythic place. Ireland is a growing, evolving country like everywhere else in the world. Now, in 2020, it is one where families like the Conners live wealthier, more comfortable and more easily upwardly mobile lives with more leisure time, near constant access to free/highly subsidised higher education and earlier retirement than they do in the US. The unwillingness to recognise that the "old country" wasn't preserved in amber the day your great, great grandparents left it, is undoubtedly a pretty big part of why life for people like the Conners is how it is. 

And it's deeply insulting to the real people who live in those real, not mythic, countries.

[Yeah No]

1 hour ago, AllyB said:

Ireland wasn't a 'depressed' place, it was an abused colony undergoing repeated near genocides of it's native peoples, most especially in the 1840s. A country that struggled hard in it's early decades of independence until it reaped the benefits of joining what has become the world's most powerful trading bloc. Ireland isn't a static, mythic place. Ireland is a growing, evolving country like everywhere else in the world. Now, in 2020, it is one where families like the Conners live wealthier, more comfortable and more easily upwardly mobile lives with more leisure time, near constant access to free/highly subsidised higher education and earlier retirement than they do in the US. The unwillingness to recognise that the "old country" wasn't preserved in amber the day your great, great grandparents left it, is undoubtedly a pretty big part of why life for people like the Conners is how it is. 

And it's deeply insulting to the real people who live in those real, not mythic, countries.

I've been to Ireland twice.  My husband's father was born there.  I have met many of his Irish cousins that still live there.  And yes, it was very depressed in the 19th century.  Many people were dirt poor, especially during and following the potato famine.  My father-in-law grew up in a one room house with 7 siblings.  This was not uncommon even in his time (he was born in 1916).  If Ireland was such a great place to live and survive back then it wouldn't have lost so much of its population to the US and other countries in the 19th and 20th centuries.  It's when Ireland's economy turned around that they stopped coming here.  I know because I lived in an Irish neighborhood in the Bronx where many immigrants came.  Toward the end of the 1980s they weren't coming anymore.  When I first visited Ireland in 2005 it had made a dramatic turnaround and it was wonderful to see.

I grew up for part of my childhood in an Irish neighborhood in NY - poor Irish.  I am also about 15% Irish myself, and neither my husband nor I found anything remotely insulting to Ireland about that comment if seen in its historical context.  It would be similar to a Jew saying the next thing they knew they'd be back on the boat bound for the shtetl (and yes I'm part Jewish too).  We know that's in the past!  One thing both cultures have in abundance (which I admire) is an ability to laugh at themselves, and yes, even their past misfortunes (see "The Producers") and that's what I think is needed to understand that comment.  At least many of us from the older generations have that kind of sense of humor. 

In other words, I just disagree.

Edited October 28, 2020 by Yeah No

[Robert Lynch]

Not just John Goodman looking terrible, but lately I am watching Judge Judy lately and noticed how gaunt looking she was during the pandemic. She still had that Ruth Bader Ginsberg do, but signs of grey and a little receding hairline going on. I noticed her skin tone was off as well as her makeup. It's show how different last year was. I think this shall be a trend going forward until everything goes to normalcy.

Edited October 28, 2020 by Robert Lynch

[Yeah No]

7 hours ago, Robert Lynch said:

Not just John Goodman looking terrible, but lately I am watching Judge Judy lately and noticed how gaunt looking she was during the pandemic. She still had that Ruth Bader Ginsberg do, but signs of grey and a little receding hairline going on. I noticed her skin tone was off as well as her makeup. It's show how different last year was. I think this shall be a trend going forward until everything goes to normalcy.

OMG I had this very thought not even an hour ago when my husband was watching Judge Judy.  WTH is going on with her appearance?  Also, only 2 hours ago I was talking with a friend who out of the blue brought up John Goodman's appearance and told me he worries that the actor is not well.  We can only hope it's because of the pandemic and not health related.

[qtpye]

Nm

Edited October 29, 2020 by qtpye

[peacheslatour]

1 hour ago, Yeah No said:

OMG I had this very thought not even an hour ago when my husband was watching Judge Judy.  WTH is going on with her appearance?  Also, only 2 hours ago I was talking with a friend who out of the blue brought up John Goodman's appearance and told me he worries that the actor is not well.  We can only hope it's because of the pandemic and not health related.

As much as I love John Goodman, he has never looked healthy to me. On the original show he was so obese, so sweaty, I was always afraid he was going to have a heart attack any minute. Now, well, we've all seen it. The slackness of his face, the greyness of his complexion. I worry.

[ButterQueen]

On 10/22/2020 at 2:24 PM, PradaKitty said:

Darlene is just where her mother was - working  in a factory and wanting to use her talent as a writer. Becky is turning into Jackie. It just took the them 40 years to get there. 

My daddy, my brother and my sister all worked in factory jobs, and have good lives.  It’s nothing to be ashamed about.

I love this show.  Roseanne who? at this point.

[ButterQueen]

On 10/24/2020 at 1:35 PM, Arcadiasw said:

That's a harsh reality the Gen X and older Millennials are going through. They haven't done better than their parents. Half of them can't afford to move out or own a home. 

I understand Dan not wanting to ask for help but Darlene and Becky could've done more if they really wanted to. They can get the mail before Dan and pay a bill. The writing has made them lazy and entitled adults. Becky was like that in the original show but Darlene, as others have said, changed a lot under this reboot.

 

I agree.  My sweet mom lived on a tight budget when my dad died young.  Every chance I got, I would grab her mail and pay a couple bills.  Sadly, she passed away 3 years ago, and I became a widow a few months ago after my DH died at the same age my dad died.  The circle of life can be cruel.

[Pallas]

Time to move on from the discussion of Ireland. Thanks, and happy Halloween. 

[chediavolo]

On 10/22/2020 at 1:48 AM, Racj82 said:

I didn't think about it until Tara said it on the podcast but the pandemic is the worst situation for the Connors work wise. All their occupations got hit hard this year. 

I often laugh at people who have talked about being stuck indoors and quarantine and all that because my job as courier meant I never even got a chance to that. My life didn't change at all. The world around me did. I'm extremely lucky but I wanted to quarantine properly and just couldn't.

I love this fictional family warts and all. And I still miss Roseanne being here. Not excusing anything she said. They should have never done the reboot if they were worried about such things because her showing her ass is nothing new.

I want the best for them. I've never struggled the way they have but I relate more to them than the typical sitcom families. And I have struggled. It was just different.

What is the name of this podcast please? I did a search and nothing for the Conners comes up. 

[tessaray]

1 hour ago, chediavolo said:

What is the name of this podcast please? I did a search and nothing for the Conners comes up. 

I'm guessing it's Tara Ariano and EHG?

https://www.primetimer.com/about/tara_ariano#:~:text=Tara Ariano is the co,Pity and Fametracker (RIP).  

https://www.extrahotgreat.com/325 

 

[Racj82]

1 hour ago, chediavolo said:

What is the name of this podcast please? I did a search and nothing for the Conners comes up. 

The extra hot great episode from the week prior. It should say it in the show notes under around the dial.

[lovett1979]

Laurie Metcalf was on the web show Stars in the House today. She confirmed that her gray hair and John Goodman's long hair are what the actors naturally had after the 7 month lockdown, and they decided to keep it for the show. Lindsey Mendez (who plays the court reporter on All Rise) was also on the show and mentioned that they are all doing their own hair and makeup, so it is likely that that is the case on The Conners and other currently-shooting shows.

[catlover79]

On 10/22/2020 at 1:01 PM, iMonrey said:

Also, when Ben said he was sleeping in Darlene's childhood bed, I was waiting for her to correct him because they are actually in DJ's old room. 

Maybe they are sleeping in Darlene's childhood bed which is now in DJ's old room?

[nuraman00]

In this episode, Jackie says "she fell asleep as a cop and got shot as a trucker".

When did she fall asleep?

If I go to the Roseanne Season 3 episode "Goodbye, Mr. Right", Jackie says she got hurt because she fell down some stairs while chasing a naked perpetrator.  That's what lead her to resign from the police.

Also, when did she get shot?

[peacheslatour]

On 10/13/2021 at 11:30 PM, nuraman00 said:

In this episode, Jackie says "she fell asleep as a cop and got shot as a trucker".

When did she fall asleep?

If I go to the Roseanne Season 3 episode "Goodbye, Mr. Right", Jackie says she got hurt because she fell down some stairs while chasing a naked perpetrator.  That's what lead her to resign from the police.

Also, when did she get shot?

Um...never?

[One Tough Cookie]

On 10/22/2020 at 3:03 PM, nokat said:

paid room and board when I lived home briefly before I moved for a better job. I can't believe these adult women expect Dan to support them and their kids. Dan shouldn't even see that mortgage bill, but that's just me and the way I was raised. I can't remember how many times he and Roseanne re-mortgaged the house, but to live always under that debt and never getting out from under it is probably way too common.
 

 i did not go to college when I graduated from high school. I got an office job and had to pay money every month and had to pay my own medical bills I don't think my parents actually need the money but it taught me abut budgeting.

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On 10/15/2021 at 11:14 AM, peacheslatour said:

Um...never?

Just don't know then why the show had to make up stuff, for a cheap laugh.