2020 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp

[Jezlyn]

55 minutes ago, javajunkiee said:

This is spiralling out of their control.

They shall not contain us 😂😂

[go4luca]

Brennan's response to mad props Hannah's post:

 

[rungirl46]

Just now, veronicamers said:

Burn it all down Hannah and Brennan!!!!

And we haven't heard from Lilly or Meredith yet.  I do not have any insider info....just curious if their cuts are COVID related too.

[ByTor]

3 minutes ago, javajunkiee said:

This is what happens when ANY leader in an organization gets stagnant; seniority with a lack of exposure to outside processes gives them the Big Fish In a Little Pond management style. Kelli is behind the times in so many ways and whether she was too busy, or too comfortable, to keep up, it's a sad ending to MTT.  She had said in the past after 15yrs she was done. 

Well, this is a helluva sad way to go out. She had a chance to set a  example for all other teams as a progressive leader during a difficult time. Instead, her legacy will be overshadowed by her ratings chasing, favoritism and blatant hypocrisy. I used to respect her and defend her; no more. #timetoretire

[SmpIsimon]

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Edited August 20, 2020 by SmpIsimon

[JarlenaFan2024]

Well I think you guys have just helped me make the decision on whether I'm going to keep or dump CMT.  And I didn't even read all the Hannah stuff.  Looks like I'll be dumping it and "maybe" buying the season on iTunes (if there is one).

 

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Does anyone know if you absolutely have to subscribe to CMT on your cable system in order to watch the DCC channel on Pluto?

Edited August 20, 2020 by BluegrassDCCFan
Added something.

[Jennv]

39 minutes ago, 5678Pixie said:

Don't be fooled, Charlotte is no saint, she is worse than Kelli.

Oh i know she is, but when they get caught they find a scape goat to blame it on. And she is Jones, she isn't going anywhere

[Holly85]

Amber commented as well 

[erikaelvis]

This will be super unpopular and down voted BUT I cant help but think if Hannah was truly that concerned about training camp and the faux bubble, why didnt she decline to go.  I know she wanted to be apart of the "sisterhood"  but knowing what it was going to be like and the risks, she still CHOSE to go and didnt speak out until after she was cut.

[MeeMee2]

1 hour ago, javajunkiee said:

I laughed way too hard at this. The word is spreading faster than they can delete the comments on the DCC insta. 

[Isolabella]

What does Hannah mean when she said the safety of the group was compromised and production was halted?! Insiders...anyone?!

[dccfan204]

Have I missed any announcements today regarding show group or group leaders?

[Girl in a Cardigan]

6 minutes ago, BluegrassDCCFan said:

Does anyone know if you absolutely have to subscribe to CMT on your cable system in order to watch the DCC channel on Pluto?

You do not have to have any particular cable company or package to watch Pluto. It is owned by CBS/Viacom, but I've been able to watch it anywhere.

[Bigorangecatmom]

Hannah / Brennan 2020. 

Seriously though - these ladies have their voice back. I am proud of them. 

[veronicamers]

2 minutes ago, erikaelvis said:

This will be super unpopular and down voted BUT I cant help but think if Hannah was truly that concerned about training camp and the faux bubble, why didnt she decline to go.  I know she wanted to be apart of the "sisterhood"  but knowing what it was going to be like and the risks, she still CHOSE to go and didnt speak out until after she was cut.

She clearly says in her Instagram post that she expressed her concerns, sounding the alarm about how the protocols put in place were not sufficient to ensure participants' safety. 

[Holly85]

1 minute ago, Isolabella said:

What does Hannah mean when she said the safety of the group was compromised and production was halted?! Insiders...anyone?!

Maybe someone came and went as they pleased !! Or bc the other night we had some bad storms with tornado activity and everyone was rushed to the basement I wonder if they were mixed with other hotel guests 

[erikaelvis]

Just now, veronicamers said:

She clearly says in her Instagram post that she expressed her concerns, sounding the alarm about how the protocols put in place were not sufficient to ensure participants' safety. 

But she still went, stayed until the end, and only spoke out after her cut.

[SmpIsimon]

Just now, erikaelvis said:

But she still went, stayed until the end, and only spoke out after her cut.

Yes because those who raised concerns were punished at the end by being cut, something she couldn't complain about until it happened, which again was at the end.

[Isolabella]

2 minutes ago, DCCFanatic82 said:

It seems straight forward to me. They cared more about filming the TV show than they did the safety of the women who were trying out. Haven't we already heard that when cameras go off, so do the masks?

Right, but it almost sounds like they weren't able to finish filming the show the way they planned. Hence the virtual announcement.

[go4luca]

1 minute ago, erikaelvis said:

This will be super unpopular and down voted BUT I cant help but think if Hannah was truly that concerned about training camp and the faux bubble, why didnt she decline to go.  I know she wanted to be apart of the "sisterhood"  but knowing what it was going to be like and the risks, she still CHOSE to go and didnt speak out until after she was cut.

Can't speak for anyone else, but if you've ever had a dream you loved so deeply, sometimes you forego the risks.  I know I have.

Now, with no spot on the team to lose, she can speak out.  I applaud her for being brave enough to do so.

[rl27rl]

5 minutes ago, MeeMee2 said:

I laughed way too hard at this. The word is spreading faster than they can delete the comments on the DCC insta. 

Oh how the mighty will fall! 

[bunny]

Omg YESSSS Hannah!!! 🙌🙌🙌 

 

[Laurawithcats]

Regarding Hannahs Insta Post...Wonder if she got wind of them trying to use her supposed weight gain (if that's true) as a reason for her dismissal and wanted to set the record straight before the show aired?  If it's true and TPTB were going to use her weight, she just blew that up in their faces. Kelli must be chewing and spitting nails right now. Kelli, time for you to come into this century or retire.  And shame on you Kelli for putting lives at risk for a Damn TV show. There was so much opportunity to use and showcase the veterans in these extraordinary times. The dangers of Covid-19 are real and the fallout is causing many Americans unimaginable suffering. Maybe, instead of harping on candidates not utd on current events, Kelli should get to work there herself. 

 

Edited August 20, 2020 by Laurawithcats

[Jennv]

5 minutes ago, Isolabella said:

What does Hannah mean when she said the safety of the group was compromised and production was halted?! Insiders...anyone?!

I took it to mean that someone involved had a possible exposure, so they had to stop everything. She mentions the end was done via virtual announcements

[veronicamers]

Just now, go4luca said:

Can't speak for anyone else, but if you've ever had a dream you loved so deeply, sometimes you forego the risks.  I know I have.

Now, with no spot on the team to lose, she can speak out.  I applaud her for being brave enough to do so.

But I think we have to look at the context of the situation. An employee shouldn't be punished for expressing concerns about safety. Saying "well, either you love this organization and you accept the risks or there is the door" is not right. 

[TeacherWoman]

Brennan has shown poise and dignity in her response to being cut.  Those character traits are what moms hope to instill in their daughters.

But... I am so pissed at all this that I would like to see JKC face something like this.

https://images.app.goo.gl/2dUAKYZ8R1He6uTb6

Edited August 20, 2020 by TeacherWoman
trying to figure out what the hell I'm doing

[go4luca]

9 minutes ago, Isolabella said:

What does Hannah mean when she said the safety of the group was compromised and production was halted?! Insiders...anyone?!

I wasn't there so I can only speculate.  In my sector of film productions working in the era of COVID, that usually means someone tested positive.

[javajunkiee]

12 minutes ago, erikaelvis said:

This will be super unpopular and down voted BUT I cant help but think if Hannah was truly that concerned about training camp and the faux bubble, why didnt she decline to go.  I know she wanted to be apart of the "sisterhood"  but knowing what it was going to be like and the risks, she still CHOSE to go and didnt speak out until after she was cut.

She apparently voiced her concerns to the Cowboys when the bubble was announced, and they did what they wanted anyways.

[go4luca]

2 minutes ago, veronicamers said:

But I think we have to look at the context of the situation. An employee shouldn't be punished for expressing concerns about safety. Saying "well, either you love this organization and you accept the risks or there is the door" is not right. 

I completely agree.  But this is a rat's nest of a situation and I do believe most of the woman will not speak up.  Sad as that sounds.

[erikaelvis]

4 minutes ago, javajunkiee said:

She apparently voiced her concerns to the Cowboys when the bubble was announced, and they did what they wanted anyways.

And yet she still went

[bunny]

Just in case Kelli F is reading this, I would like to formally submit that cutting an amazing veteran cheerleader for voicing her VALID concerns about the logistics of holding an unnecessary training camp during a global pandemic is the exact opposite of...

...wait for it...

WORLD CLASS

😌

[ByTor]

11 minutes ago, Laurawithcats said:

Maybe, instead of harping on candidates not utd on current events, Kelli should get to work there herself. 

 

LOL especially considering COVID is kind of a current talking point!

[Tinydancerxo28]

24 minutes ago, Isolabella said:

Ok, absolutely love this because that quote is at the top of the DCC framed thing from Daphne's vet video. The DCC Credence or whatever the hell it is. Kelli & Co. put one in every girl's hotel room for training camp. So Hannah is giving the most subtle FU 😄

Haha I didn’t realize that! I’m proud of her for standing up for herself! 

[realityjunkie771]

Some thoughts:

1) Not the least bit surprised the health of the group was compromised. Sounds to me like the vets came in immediately from their weeks of work and normal life, and I imagine that means the staff did as well. It was inevitable. The girls should not have been put at unnecessary risk. 

2) Hannah’s post was very carefully worded. Direct and incriminating language was left out, but the implications are clear. I definitely agree that there may be something like a lawsuit in the works. Good for her. 

3) The last thing she writes is something that is important for us to remember, I think — the girls do this because they love it. There are wonderful girls on that team who are full of passion. I think we need to be careful when we call these women stupid for going in to training camp during a pandemic or for caring about being a cheerleader. Let’s remember who the offenders are here. The girls faced what seemed like an impossible decision — risk getting sick or risk losing something you love almost more than anything else. They’re the victims here — Hannah and Brennan especially. TPTB are the offenders.  Let’s keep our anger where it belongs. 

Edited August 20, 2020 by realityjunkie771
Clarity

[TeacherWoman]

3 hours ago, SmpIsimon said:

Btw, someone mentioned Alora.  One thing I can report is that she is NOT very well-liked by a number of Vets.

Possibly because she actually is a professional dancer?

[Jess14]

Hannah mentions that in-person production was halted after the safety of the group was compromised. Any idea what she is referring to? Seems to be more than just general safety concerns (which were obvious; we talked about how it wasn’t a real bubble on the boards). Sounds like there may have been an outbreak. 

Good for her and Brennan for speaking out. Brennan is the epitome of class, and Hannah managed to get her point across eloquently and clearly, without flinging any insults or looking petty. Well done ladies! 

 

[ByTor]

3 minutes ago, TeacherWoman said:

Possibly because she actually is a professional dancer?

I saw her Instagram before she went private.  She seems a little "questionable" to me, in the "not an America's Sweetheart" vein.  Not saying I agree or disagree, but once again different rules for different people.

[javajunkiee]

3 minutes ago, TeacherWoman said:

Possibly because she actually is a professional dancer?

I doubt it. Maybe its because she's a rookie at being a DCC and you don't throw your creds around like you're all that and a bag of chips when you haven't set a boot in a packed stadium and don't know the ropes yet.

[DCCland]

Sorry did Meredith get cut?

[Dr. Donna]

New poster here. So much drama!

Observations from a newbie:

1. Lilly’s arc was clearly made for TV from the start. They saw she would do whatever it took to make the team with optimism, grace, and emotional openness and took advantage. Whenever you saw her score sheets she was at a similar level to Taylor P. and Kirsten. They made her sweat last year for drama and used her as fodder this year. Sounds like they kept her in her role of Last Minute Decision until the very end. She seemed loved by her team, well spoken for appearances, and a capable dancer. She didn’t deserve this.

2. Meredith seemed kind and yet was set up to fail. If she didn’t have a shot due to her dance performance over the season they should have strongly encouraged her to be one and done. 
 

3. Brennan and Hannah aren’t going without a fight. Purely from a PR perspective, their cuts seem...misguided. Cutting a fan favorite for ratings has backfired enough now for television shows for someone to give it pause, and it’s really hard to spin firing the COVID survivor and the team spokeswoman for mental illness awareness. Maybe in a normal season it would be easier to pull off, but it’s not a normal season.

4. I saw season 14’s Alexandra commented on Hannah’s post. I liked her!

5. I don’t blame Victoria for any her issues. She seems to act the way she’s been taught and the way that she’s always been rewarded for. I can’t get mad at a child for misbehaving, but I can get mad at the adults in the room for letting it happen. She should be able to take pride in the accomplishments she earns instead of constantly being told she deserves more.

[dreamcatcher]

 

1 hour ago, Stephieg84 said:

Yep. So far only current is Erin. She also commented. Guessing she’ll be the next one out the door. So sad and frustrating 

I think so far I’ve seen posts from Ashlee, Erin, Alanna and Jalyn that Kelli would definitely take as an insult. Ashlee especially won’t be getting any advancement opportunities, if she’s even allowed back... I know we’re hoping for a mass exodus, but damn we finally got a good rookie class (referring to the current 3rd years) and Kelli has to go and mess it up?

32 minutes ago, erikaelvis said:

But she still went, stayed until the end, and only spoke out after her cut.

She was literally cut for speaking up? No current employee should ever post their grievances online -ever. It’s unprofessional and grounds for legal action. A true professional raises their concerns within the organization, which she did and she was cut not just in the last day, but during the last few hours as she says. So yes at this point, when she was dismissed for speaking -and looks like someone even got infected, proving she was right- she went public. 

I don’t personally understand their commitment to dcc, but I don’t doubt it’s their dream and have sacrificed a lot. Saying she shouldn’t be complaining about this reminds me of the Erica situation and how a certain alumnae said they’re not working as dccs for the money etc... yes, she only spoke up after getting cut but I say, good on her for finally getting mad enough to do something about it.

I for one I’m so glad they chose to go public before Kelli had a chance to manipulate the situation to make them look bad. Erica was dropped soo fast, but Brennan and Hannah got a lot of support and to me that proves our insiders and their claim that the vets are hella mad. 

And last thing because I got so invested on this, that it can’t be healthy... Looks like Kelli decided to cut them at the last minute and that’s a different brand of cruel. You don’t need to wait until the last minute to decide Hannah is suddenly toxic or Brennan can’t dance through a hypothetical game day that ain’t happening anyway. Sounds more like the didn’t have enough material for the show and went with a shocking twist. 

[Christineelgene]

1 hour ago, SmpIsimon said:

Does anyone know the tip lines of the local Dallas news stations?  Actually I bet national news outlets like CNN would be interested as well.  Given the notoriety of the DCC, Girls getting cut for expressing safety concerns is a big deal.

I would try to connect with Dale Hansen.  He seems to be taking up causes in his later years.

[ByTor]

3 minutes ago, dreamcatcher said:

we finally got a good rookie class (referring to the current 3rd years) and Kelli has to go and mess it up?

 

3 minutes ago, dreamcatcher said:

I for one I’m so glad they chose to go public before Kelli had a chance to manipulate the situation to make them look bad.

These above 2 sentences are EVERYTHING!

[Stephieg84]

1 minute ago, dreamcatcher said:

 

I think so far I’ve seen posts from Ashlee, Erin, Alanna and Jalyn that Kelli would definitely take as an insult. Ashlee especially won’t be getting any advancement opportunities, if she’s even allowed back... I know we’re hoping for a mass exodus, but damn we finally got a good rookie class (referring to the current 3rd years) and Kelli has to go and mess it up?

I’m so glad more of the current team decided to speak up - especially her rookie sisters. Agreed that we finally have a strong group and it’s now all going to go to hell..

[EricaShadows]

Hopefully, this is a perfect storm of events that cleans house in the DCC and not only brings in fresh blood (especially among the leadership), but allows them to hit a reset button of sorts once everything settles down.

[Holly85]

1 minute ago, EricaShadows said:

Hopefully, this is a perfect storm of events that cleans house in the DCC and not only brings in fresh blood (especially among the leadership), but allows them to hit a reset button of sorts once everything settles down.

I remember when the Houston texans cheerleaders brought to light what their coach was doing they ended up letting her go and now a former Texans cheerleader is the coach for them 

[Stephieg84]

3 minutes ago, EricaShadows said:

Hopefully, this is a perfect storm of events that cleans house in the DCC and not only brings in fresh blood (especially among the leadership), but allows them to hit a reset button of sorts once everything settles down.

Unpopular opinion. For the love of God. Just don’t let it be Kashara they bring in. 

[scorpio1031]

28 minutes ago, javajunkiee said:

when you haven't set a boot in a packed stadium

Don't think any boots will be set in a packed stadium for awhile

[VintageJ]

1 hour ago, erikaelvis said:

This will be super unpopular and down voted BUT I cant help but think if Hannah was truly that concerned about training camp and the faux bubble, why didnt she decline to go.  I know she wanted to be apart of the "sisterhood"  but knowing what it was going to be like and the risks, she still CHOSE to go and didnt speak out until after she was cut.

I initially thought that myself.  I’m guessing they told them they had all these safety precautions, their health was their first priority, blah, blah blah.  Once they got there, I think Hannah saw it for what it was.  Somewhere upthread it was talked about that they wore masks and distanced for the cameras, but once the cameras went off, so did the masks, etc.  So she probably started saying something about it.  And we all know you can’t say shit or have real concerns. So they cut her. 

Now I’m even madder.  So proud of you Hanna for speaking up and out.  Love you!

[ClosetDCCFan]

1 hour ago, erikaelvis said:

This will be super unpopular and down voted BUT I cant help but think if Hannah was truly that concerned about training camp and the faux bubble, why didnt she decline to go.  I know she wanted to be apart of the "sisterhood"  but knowing what it was going to be like and the risks, she still CHOSE to go and didnt speak out until after she was cut.

Maybe she was assured certain safety measures/protocols would be followed, and after getting there, she realized it was just lip service.