S07.E04: Death Is Not The End

[Mystical chick]

Like many of you, I'd watch an entire show every week with Lafayette being his own damn self.  Just walking around, living his life.  He's the ONLY character I even care about on this show (okay, possibly Arlene) - otherwise, meh on the rest.  

 

Agreed that this ep was much better in general but just cannot with the Suckeh-eyes.  She's almost in Claire Danes territory with the buggy shit.   If I can stay with Dexter til the bitter (hideous, poorly written, abominable) end, I shall do so here as well, regardless.  (You know you will, too.  Don't lie. heh) 

[pootlus]

How do I love Pam? Let me count the ways.

 

"She's just a black fuckin' fungus." I love that an appealing character actually hates Sookie's guts - it makes her marginally less a Mary Sue.

 

That said, I did "Awww" over the Sookie/Eric hug, and she did actually manage to bully everyone into action, so yay for Sookie.

 

Glad the vigilantes are dead. Now we can get back to much more awsome Sarah Newlin goodness.

 

I loved Ginger as wide-eyed hippy chick student, although I could take or leave the flashbacks.  Eric's hair was hilarious.

 

Loved Willa's "FUCK!", loved Jess/Lala, loved Arlene's "Please don't change back into a rat...he changed into a rat".

 

I actually cried at the start with the Sookie/Jackson and Hoyt/Jason scenes. Damn, Robert Patrick spoke so much with his eyes it hurt to watch.

[BrendasChoppers]

I still hate Shrewkie and I hate that Eric is still schmoopy over her. She ain't all that. I take it she'll be stringing him along like usual and then pick shrimpy Bill in the finale. I want Eric happy in the end.

Meh. I wanted Eric and Willa for endgame, but now it seems all that time will be wasted on the overrated fairy.

But I love Eric emerging like he just finished a mega burger at the Peach Pit. He and Pam save this show for me every week.

[AudienceofOne]

I can't believe this is the same season, let alone the same show. So much better. Even the flashbacks didn't annoy me, although the Bill/Sookie anvils did. The Eric/Sookie scene made me wonder why the writers insist on splitting them up.

 

The thing about Sookie is, she was always kind of awesome and I could never understand why they kept her in dumb romantic subplots (*cough* Warlow *cough*) when she had the great potential to be the ultimate unifying character who could bring vampires, werewolves, witches and shifters etc together. I think that after S3 the didn't know what story they were telling anymore and it showed.

 

I'm getting a bad feeling that Eric Northman is going to be one of the deaths this season

 

 

*sigh* me too. So the writers can put Sookie with Bill because he's literally the last man left standing.

[NurseGiGi]

Of course I loved this episode what with all the Eric/Pam interaction.  It just proves to me that an Eric/Pam prequel would be awesome.  I really hope there's a cure in sight and the dynamic duo can continue in perpetuity.

 

I liked almost everything about this episode and it's the only one I've saved to rewatch.  I didn't like the 2 seconds of Violet that I saw and think it's a shame one of the Hep V vamps didn't stake her.

 

And I loved the Ginger flashbacks.  Looks like poor Ginger used to have some brains before they glamour fried them.

[Morrigan2575]

I really enjoyed this episode it had a real nostalgic tone to it.  I am most definitely NOT an Eric/Sookie shipper (not Bill/Sookie either) so to me those scenes seemed more like and ending then another beginning but I guess next week will tell.  I felt like most of this episode was done (as all final seasons do) to wrap up storylines and let the audience see old faces.  We got to see Hyot again and remember the Hyot/Jason friendship, that was a great scene and one of the reasons why (no matter how stupid he gets) I'll always love Jason Stackhouse.

 

The Pam/Eric scenes were great but I love those two together so watching the flashback and stuff was funny...especially the looks of horror on their faces when they saw the store and Eric's "sorry Pam".  I didn't even recognize Ginger when she first showed up but it was fun to see her and all her wackiness again.  I also felt bad that Pam totally stole Ginger's idea but it was amusing to see Pam confess to Eric and Eric's "you little bitch" comment.  

 

I freely admit that my favorite ships are Eric/Pam, Bill/Jessica, I don't care if they're romantic or not the relationship between these two pairings as well as the Bitchy little antagonistic relationship between Eric/Bill are my favorites.  They're just entertaining for all characters involved and I think bring out the best in all characters.

 

Lafayette pretty much owns this season, I've enjoyed every scene he's had and I think he makes other characters that can be boring (James) or hated (Lettie Mae) interesting to watch.

 

The Arlene/Terry stuff was wonderful, as well, a nice nod to characters we loved who have left us (for those of us that loved Terry) but it was also nice to see Sookie actually have a reaction to someone dying for once (this season).  

 

The one thing I didn't like (and while I'm not a Sokkie/Bill shipper I was never opposed to it) I hated the anvils they were dropping to get Bill/Sookie back together.  I just felt like they were dancing on Alcide's grave...man only died that morning.

[Athena]

The Eric/Pam show made this episode so much better. It was fun and full of love. Also, Eric makes Sookie better too. I don't want them back together mostly because Sookie doesn't really deserve it. Eric doesn't deserve to die either, but he still has some of the best chemistry with people on this show.

 

Sookie is better when she is taking action, but there was some boring moments of talking. The show is better when everyone gets together and fights though.

 

I liked the Jessica/James/Lafayette moment too. That's an OT3 I can stand behind.

 

This episode gave me hope that this whole last season may not be terrible. Expectations still low of course.

[NurseGiGi]

I really enjoyed this episode it had a real nostalgic tone to it.  I am most definitely NOT an Eric/Sookie shipper (not Bill/Sookie either) so to me those scenes seemed more like and ending then another beginning but I guess next week will tell.  I felt like most of this episode was done (as all final seasons do) to wrap up storylines and let the audience see old faces.  We got to see Hyot again and remember the Hyot/Jason friendship, that was a great scene and one of the reasons why (no matter how stupid he gets) I'll always love Jason Stackhouse.

 

The Pam/Eric scenes were great but I love those two together so watching the flashback and stuff was funny...especially the looks of horror on their faces when they saw the store and Eric's "sorry Pam".  I didn't even recognize Ginger when she first showed up but it was fun to see her and all her wackiness again.  I also felt bad that Pam totally stole Ginger's idea but it was amusing to see Pam confess to Eric and Eric's "you little bitch" comment.  

 

I freely admit that my favorite ships are Eric/Pam, Bill/Jessica, I don't care if they're romantic or not the relationship between these two pairings as well as the Bitchy little antagonistic relationship between Eric/Bill are my favorites.  They're just entertaining for all characters involved and I think bring out the best in all characters.

 

Lafayette pretty much owns this season, I've enjoyed every scene he's had and I think he makes other characters that can be boring (James) or hated (Lettie Mae) interesting to watch.

 

The Arlene/Terry stuff was wonderful, as well, a nice nod to characters we loved who have left us (for those of us that loved Terry) but it was also nice to see Sookie actually have a reaction to someone dying for once (this season).  

 

The one thing I didn't like (and while I'm not a Sokkie/Bill shipper I was never opposed to it) I hated the anvils they were dropping to get Bill/Sookie back together.  I just felt like they were dancing on Alcide's grave...man only died that morning.

 

I agree wholeheartedly with this entire post.  I've never been a shipper of any of Sookie's romantic entanglements and have always wished the show didn't center around it.  

 

Anyway, you said everything I wanted to say only better.

[Primetimer]

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[marcee]

I still don't understand why a daylight rescue wouldn't have worked!? So confused.

[Quickbeam]

Loved this episode with Ginger and the flashbacks. Since Pam and Eric make this show for me, I was very happy. I love how Pam was telling Eric (for the first time) that she stole the Fangtasia idea from Ginger. They are a great duo. 

[roctavia]

I still don't understand why a daylight rescue wouldn't have worked!? So confused.

 

I think a daylight rescue that was just Sam and maybe Jason by themselves would have gone horribly... The vampires may have been sick and it may have been daytime... but we know they wake up every like 15 minutes to eat or something... and they couldn't exactly just sneak in (since nobody knew about the tunnel) and get out a heavily pregnant lady and others who may or may not be injured.

 

And really- what other humans were there? It was Jason, Sam and Sookie- that would have been it for a daytime rescue... against more than a dozen infected vampires, which though they are weak are potentially still faster and stronger than a human.

I think waiting for more backup in the form of vampires was wise... and even then, they were still pretty badly outnumbered.

Edited July 14, 2014 by Jjrmt

[clack]

That vigilante story line was a blown opportunity. Instead of making them all cartoons, their perspective might have been given its due.

 

Have former mayor Bill, current mayor Sam, and sheriffs Andy and Jason led the town well? Do they shoulder any responsibility for the dire state Bon Temps now finds itself in? And in the social breakdown (state-wide? nation-wide? world-wide? I wish the show would make this clearer) that follows a vampire apocalypse, do they even still constitute legal authority? Are they acting within the law, or have they also become, in essence, vigilantes?

 

We might have had 2 groups, Sookie & co. vs the vigilantes, each with a plausible case as to why they are in the right, in tragic conflict. Alcide's death might then have been given some dramatic weight.

[CletusMusashi]

So is Eric going to be like Dr. Hibbert on The Simpsons? They're just going to keep doing flashbacks in order to see how many extremely dated hair styles they can stick on him? That might actually be fun. A few that I would like to see are: his 1950s ducktail, his 1960s early Beatles phase, and, of course, his 1970s disco perm, complete with chains and white polyester.

[phoenix780]

I still don't understand why a daylight rescue wouldn't have worked!? So confused.

 

I liked this episode so much I'm willing to figure it out for them, or at least something that works for me. 

 

If you go in the daylight, the only way to rescue the captives and ensure that the H-Vamps are dead is to enter the nest, which is extremely dangerous.  It's smarter to go at night when you could conceivably lure the H-Vamps outside (they wouldn't be dumb enough to run out into the sunlight).  That clears the room so you can try to rescue people; and it allows you to use stakes/UV guns/whatever to try and ensure that you're killing the H-Vamps.

 

I suppose you could go in the daytime and try to destroy all the light-tight areas, but I would think the bar is secure enough to make that an impossibility.  Plus, in the daylight you have no supernatural backup to help clear any light-tight areas like a basement (except for the shapeshifter...who isn't always that powerful, just shift-y).  

 

I forgot my favorite part of the episode: The exchange between Sookie and Willa when Willa interrupted the Sookie/Eric conversation.  I thought it was hilarious, even funnier than Pam's smart-ass remarks.

[marcee]

So is Eric going to be like Dr. Hibbert on The Simpsons? They're just going to keep doing flashbacks in order to see how many extremely dated hair styles they can stick on him? That might actually be fun. A few that I would like to see are: his 1950s ducktail, his 1960s early Beatles phase, and, of course, his 1970s disco perm, complete with chains and white polyester.

I don't think Alexander Skarsgard can muster up enough chest hair to effectively take on the 70s.

[iMonrey]

So I guess vampires in the True Blood-verse can cut and re-grow their hair, because Eric had much longer hair when this series began seven seasons ago.

 

I did love that Ginger got all excited that they were hiring and then formally asked for an application.

 

Loved seeing Hoyt again, but I did not remember to what extent Jessica glamoured him. I thought she only made him forget what had happened between her and Jason, and possibly between her and him. I didn't remember her making him forget Jason's very existence, and I don't even know how that would work since they've been friends since childhood. Did he also forget Sookie by association? Otherwise he should have at least recognized the name Stackhouse. I kind of hope if he comes back for Maxine's funeral he'll get his memory back. 

[Morrigan2575]

That vigilante story line was a blown opportunity. Instead of making them all cartoons, their perspective might have been given its due.

 

This is a great point, I was cheering for the vigilante's to die because they were so freaking stupid and annoying.  It would have been better if they actually gave a reasonable portrayal of people that are scared, and fed up of all the crazy Supernatural going on in Bon Temps.  However, I think they only way that would have worked would be to have series regulars/beloved characters fall on both sides of the argument.  The problem is, most of the series regulars/main recurring characters are either Supernatural or related to Supernatural beings.

[Chicken Wing]

I still don't understand why a daylight rescue wouldn't have worked!? So confused.

 

Their healthy vampire comrades wouldn't be able to come with them during the day.

[Izeinwinter]

The thing is.. waiting for night ought to have resulted in all the prisoners being eaten before they got there. Hep-V vamps : Not noted for restraint. 

And with a known location and daylight Sam could easily kill every single vampire there. Fangtasia is a vamp nest set up by the authority, so it has a nifty bolthole, is light tight, and probably quite solidly built. You know what it isn't? Elephant Proof. Because that level of fortification would make the planning office sit up and take notice. When he stopped the car and got out, I was kind of expecting him to turn into a swallow and zip the heck out of there. Could have been an entire funny story told to Erik later, if they were worried about the special effects budget.

"Sorry about your bar, man."

"Hated that place anyway, awful couple of decades before we remodeled, what did you do to it anyway?"

"Uhm.. Snuck in as a bug, found that neat tunnel, turned into a silverback to break the chains, escorted the ladies out, turned into an african bull elephant, tipped the walls over. Lit the rubble on fire." 

 

What was done to ginger may in fact be the single worst thing Erik and Pam have ever done - True blood has an afterlife. Which means killing people.. is kind of like shanghaing them onto a transport headed for the colonies. Its a mean, nasty thing to do because they wont see their loved ones for quite a while and it may be quite a traumatic experience, but it isn't the end. But what they did to ginger? Enslavement and lobotomy of someone who appears to have genuinely liked them of her own accord? Assholes. 

 

I just saw the latest babyvamp jessica posting. Oh. My. Goddess. All hail Violet. 

[CletusMusashi]

Totally down with the elephant plan. I mean, if they can kill Tara offscreen, why not a bunch of no-names? And it would be such a "love it or hate it" thing for the writers to pull. Can you imagine how much it would piss off viewers who had no sense of humor?

[Charlie Baker]

 

I like this Sookie, she kicks ass when she needs to, her powers are useful and it's easy to see how the last few years filled with death have affected her.

 

What really put this episode over the top for me: Sookie is being stoic, maybe as devastated as if she tore a nail as someone noted. But then the prospect of losing Arlene after all the loss she has had so recently made her break down and let that grief out.

 

AP's performances have been uneven, to say the least, but she nailed that moment for me.  That was True Blood actually making me feel something again.

[jonesingjay]

 

 

Loved seeing Hoyt again, but I did not remember to what extent Jessica glamoured him. I thought she only made him forget what had happened between her and Jason, and possibly between her and him. I didn't remember her making him forget Jason's very existence, and I don't even know how that would work since they've been friends since childhood. Did he also forget Sookie by association? Otherwise he should have at least recognized the name Stackhouse. I kind of hope if he comes back for Maxine's funeral he'll get his memory back. 

 

Jessica glamoured Hoyt into not only forgetting what happened between her and Jason, but also forgetting her and Jason completely. The last time Jason saw Hoyt, he stopped him as he was driving out of town. Hoyt didn't recognized Jason, but the name Stackhouse was familiar to him and he associated it with Sookie only. 

 

I don't know how all of this works though. You'd think that his dearly departed mama, at one point in time, if Hoyt did keep in touch with her. She might've mentioned Jason or Jessica at one point in time. 

[CoderLady]

What was done to ginger may in fact be the single worst thing Erik and Pam have ever done - True blood has an afterlife. Which means killing people.. is kind of like shanghaing them onto a transport headed for the colonies. Its a mean, nasty thing to do because they wont see their loved ones for quite a while and it may be quite a traumatic experience, but it isn't the end. But what they did to ginger? Enslavement and lobotomy of someone who appears to have genuinely liked them of her own accord? Assholes. 

 

I've always thought Eric and Pam were colossal jerks and nowhere near as cool as they seem. Ginger started off enthusiastic and smart. She liked them enough to want them to succeed but instead of crediting her for that - and what would that have hurt them to do? - Pam ripped her off then over the years E & P fried her brains and just used her as livestock. Too bad it would be too implausible that Ginger has just been playing along and has masterminded everything over the past few seasons. Well, I can dream.

 

Eric infecting that flight attendant, then casually and cruelly telling her afterwards what he'd done - that's a staking offense in my book. Though of course it's Eric! He can do no wrong. Jerk.

[phoenix780]

About the idiot mob: 

However, I think they only way that would have worked would be to have series regulars/beloved characters fall on both sides of the argument.  The problem is, most of the series regulars/main recurring characters are either Supernatural or related to Supernatural beings.

 

Arlene could have been one to sit on the no-supes side of the fence, I think.  But they used her for something else.

 

Sam as an elephant would probably have worked.  But in addition to liking how it played out, I felt cheated out of a decent rescue during last season's vamp camp because it was mixed up with Terry's monthlong funeral, so I was happy to see a rescue mission here even if it doesn't necessarily fit together nicely.  Though I'm picky about other stuff.

[Amethyst]

But what they did to ginger? Enslavement and lobotomy of someone who appears to have genuinely liked them of her own accord? Assholes.

 

Yeah, humorous 90s fashion aside, I wasn't a fan of Pam and Eric this week because they both came across as really shitty.  From Eric casually screwing over the flight attendant to the flashbacks with Ginger.  They already treat Ginger like their flunky, but now that we know how bright she can be, Pam stealing her idea just feels unnecessarily cruel.  Pam and Eric have always been arrogant and self-serving, but there's usually a charm to it.  This time, it just felt like Pam did it just to hog all the glory, and naturally, Eric sees no problem with it.  And now, they've glamoured her so many times that any real intellect or sense Ginger had has been glamoured along with it.

Edited July 14, 2014 by Amethyst

[Morrigan2575]

Question, what happens to a human who carries the Hep V virus? Do they get sick or just continue to live normal lives but are deadly to vamps that feed off of them?

Eric infected the flight attendant but she was worried about her job (vamp attendant?) not her health.

[Happytobehere]

 

I'm getting a bad feeling that Eric Northman is going to be one of the deaths this season.  We are getting his flashbacks more than Bill's.  They are bringing up Sookie/Eric again, which I'm all for but just gives me another reason to think he's going to die.  To my eyes, Sookie/Eric was 100 times better in that short scene than Bill/Sookie the entire last 3 seasons.

Yes, I fear the writing is on the wall for Eric. Unfortunately, I always assumed he would die, not just for the sickening, boring and pointless Suckie and Beeeel reunion, but I got the sense that Alexander S. only agreed to come back on a limited basis because the show is ending, so I assumed he would not be present through the end of the season. I hope I'm wrong, but I sadly and depressingly doubt it.

Loved seeing so many of the old characters via flashback, phone calls, and near death experiences.

Once again, Lafayette brings the awesome. Knowing that Eric will most lie meet the true death and Pam will be miserable, happiness for Lafayette is all I have to hope for.

[roctavia]

Question, what happens to a human who carries the Hep V virus? Do they get sick or just continue to live normal lives but are deadly to vamps that feed off of them?

Eric infected the flight attendant but she was worried about her job (vamp attendant?) not her health.

 

So far, Hep V isn't dangerous to humans... like Hep D, it has no effect on them.... but yes, it then makes them infectious to vampires.

[ReluctantAngel]

So is Eric going to be like Dr. Hibbert on The Simpsons? They're just going to keep doing flashbacks in order to see how many extremely dated hair styles they can stick on him? That might actually be fun. A few that I would like to see are: his 1950s ducktail, his 1960s early Beatles phase, and, of course, his 1970s disco perm, complete with chains and white polyester.

This is more hilarious when you remember from Season 2 that Pam is the one who cuts his hair (and can get testy about it).

[phoenix780]

So in theory...you could infect yourself with Hep V as a defense tactic?

 

I mean, the vamp might still get pissed off and kill you out of anger.  But...could you just get sick and then announce it to keep the vampires at bay?  Or get your entire town sick?  After all, they only want healthy humans.

[CoderLady]

Question, what happens to a human who carries the Hep V virus? Do they get sick or just continue to live normal lives but are deadly to vamps that feed off of them?

Eric infected the flight attendant but she was worried about her job (vamp attendant?) not her health.

 

At least part of her job was to serve in-flight meals to vampires, and without her knowledge or consent Eric took that away. Jerk. She probably lost her job entirely after that.

 

Heck - it's just fiction so I don't know why I'm getting so pissed, but I am.

[roctavia]

So in theory...you could infect yourself with Hep V as a defense tactic?

 

I mean, the vamp might still get pissed off and kill you out of anger.  But...could you just get sick and then announce it to keep the vampires at bay?  Or get your entire town sick?  After all, they only want healthy humans.

 

 

I suppose so, but it's always possible the virus could turn deadly for humans... mutations and all... or like you said, the vamps will just get pissed... and probably drink you anyway, since an already infected vampire might not care if their food is infected.

At least part of her job was to serve in-flight meals to vampires, and without her knowledge or consent Eric took that away. Jerk. She probably lost her job entirely after that.

 

Heck - it's just fiction so I don't know why I'm getting so pissed, but I am.

 

Pam (especially) and Eric have always been shown to have little regard for humans in general... of course a few select humans are important to them, and Sookie being not entirely human made her even more enticing. But when we first meet them at Fangtasia, they're not exactly respectful of the human clientele.

 

I never really had a problem with that, since nobody on true blood is just good or just bad, and part of Eric's appeal is the whole 'bad boy' thing... but in real life, all of the vampires we've met are kind of dicks... Pam and Eric in general don't care that much if they harm humans, especially ones that they don't know and if they are going to get something out of it. Like Bill pointed out when he was explaining to Sookie why they couldn't get any other vampires to help, that's the standard operating procedure for vampires...

[Blakeston]

It seemed a bit odd to me that Pam and Eric were able to abandon the video store concept and change the store to a nightclub just because they felt like it. Didn't the Magister make it clear that they couldn't change things too much?

 

And if they were allowed to change the business, did it really not occur to them to try it until Ginger came along and gave them an idea?

 

So in theory...you could infect yourself with Hep V as a defense tactic?
 
I mean, the vamp might still get pissed off and kill you out of anger.  But...could you just get sick and then announce it to keep the vampires at bay?  Or get your entire town sick?  After all, they only want healthy humans.

 
The healthy vampires are concerned with drinking only from humans who aren't Hep V carriers. But have we seen the vampires with Hep V care about about whether they're drinking from carriers? I don't have any recollection of seeing that.

Edited July 15, 2014 by Blakeston

[Turkish]

Is Ginger dead? Do we know? Will we ever find out? Is it weird that I care so much about this tertiary character that I absolutely need to know? I have always loved Ginger. She has always been so loyal to Pam and Eric even though they really don't deserve it. First they steal her Fangtasia idea then they glamour damn near all the intelligence out of her. Ugh. Poor Ginger. As loyal as she has been to them over the years, I find it hard to believe that she would just let the Hep-V vamps take over Fangtasia without getting herself killed or at least getting in contact with Bill or somebody to tlet them know what was going on so I fear she was killed off-screen. 

Edited July 15, 2014 by Turkish

[phoenix780]

The healthy vampires are concerned with drinking only from humans who aren't Hep V carriers. But have we seen the vampires with Hep V care about about whether they're drinking from carriers? I don't have any recollection of seeing that.

 

You're right.  For some reason I forgot about the Hep-V vampires for a minute.

[Morrigan2575]

It seemed a bit odd to me that Pam and Eric were able to abandon the video store concept and change the store to a nightclub just because they felt like it. Didn't the Magister make it clear that they couldn't change things too much?

 

They weren't able to change it until after Vampires Came out of the Closet so they kept it a Video Rental/Sales store from 1986-2009 or 2010 (20 years later). I'm guessing by that point the Authority either let them out of the dog house or were more interested in the 80% they could get from a thriving Night Club vs a dying video rental industry.

[shrewd.buddha]

I've always thought Eric and Pam were colossal jerks and nowhere near as cool as they seem. Ginger started off enthusiastic and smart. She liked them enough to want them to succeed ...

It seems as if everyone loves the bad boys (and girls), but would they think the bad-asses were so awesome if they were on the receiving end? Maybe Ginger is a cautionary tale of being a super-fan of a super-dick. For some reason, people just like dicks (innuendo acknowledged). 

 

Eric and Pam seem as if they are supposed to be the older, jaded, more ruthless, less human type of vampire. They don't seem to empathize with humans because they don't remember being human (unless those memories are needed to fuel their revenge motives -- then they are all emo and hurt). 

 

And I like Eric and Pam - as characters. They can be scary and also funny. But they are dicks. And I wouldn't want to meet them or be part of their orbit, if such a thing were possible. 

Edited July 15, 2014 by shrewd.buddha

[roctavia]

Is Ginger dead? Do we know? Will we ever find out? Is it weird that I care so much about this tertiary character that I absolutely need to know? I have always loved Ginger. She has always been so loyal to Pam and Eric even though they really don't deserve it. First they steal her Fangtasia idea then they glamour damn near all the intelligence out of her. Ugh. Poor Ginger. As loyal as she has been to them over the years, I find it hard to believe that she would just let the Hep-V vamps take over Fangtasia without getting herself killed or at least getting in contact with Bill or somebody to tlet them know what was going on so I fear she was killed off-screen. 

 

I do think we're going to see Ginger again, hopefully alive and well. With Eric and Pam gone, I don't see her hanging around Fangtasia... I do wonder if the hepV vampires have done much damage in Shreveport? I'd think they would have little control and be eating the people there, but it's a pretty big city compared to Bon Temps and St. Alice. So are they just laying low there and bringing food from other places?

 

Perhaps they will stop and pick up Ginger for their revenge adventure, it'd make sense to have a human with them if they are travelling.

Edited July 15, 2014 by Jjrmt

[Morrigan2575]

Ginger was alive last time we saw her. Eric rescued her from Vamp Camp and she was hanging out at Bill's house during the BBQ and Volleyball game. Where she went in the 6 months in between is anyone's guess.  Since this is the final season, I'm guessing we'll see her again, just like we saw Hyott and Terry.

[DollEyes]

  Did my eyes deceive me or did I actually see a final season episode of True Blood that not only didn't suck (no pun intended), it was kinda awesome? There were visits from old friends (alive, dead and undead), continuity, an origin story, plot lines wrapping up and an epic showdown. Sookie was less annoying than usual. In her own tactless way, Sookie did get Holly to open up about her ordeal and Jess to eat again, with a little help from Lafayette on the latter. Loved seeing Hoyt and Jackson again. Shame it was under such bad circumstances. The only tragic things about Maxine's death was Violet's killing her and & Hoyt's blaming himself for leaving her.  Jason's telling Hoyt about Maxine was extremely tough for him for several reasons, whether it was the memories of his & Jess' betraying him so badly that Jess had to glamour Hoyt to forget about them or the knowledge that it was Violet, Jason's girlfriend, who killed her. As for Jackson, his telling Sookie that "[Alcide] loved the fuck outta [her]" made her feel even worse, as it should have because she was the selfish idiot who got Alcide killed in the first place. Sookie's telling Jason that they had to pull themselves together to get the hostages back was good advice, but it also helped Sookie  temporarily avoid dealing with her own guilt where Alcide's death was concerned, proving that Sookie's such a pain in the ass that even her nobility is selfish. However, I'm glad that Sookie helped Holly remember what happened and that Andy's there for Holly. I hope that Andy and Holly survive to the finale. I'm rooting for them.

 

 

I don't get why people are upset that sookie was not crying for alcide all episode. These people are in a time of crisis they don't got time unfortunately to grieve.

 

  The way I see it, what's upsetting is that Alcide loved Sookie and while Sookie didn't have to cry the whole episode, by the time she did cry,  IMO it was much more relief about Arlene living than guilt about Alcide dying.

 

  Re Bill, he earned a few cool points from me when he volunteered for Sookie's rescue mission, when he saved Eric and when he killed Vince. I still think Bill's an asshole, though. Just because Bill says he's not an asshole anymore, that doesn't mean it's true.  Re Eric and Pam, while I thought that their bonding over Pam's admission that she stole the idea for Fangtasia from Ginger was sweet and 90s Eric looked hot, I hate what they've done to Ginger over the years, turning her from an intelligent young woman to a screaming nitwit- that is when they're not draining her and glamouring her to the point of, to paraphrase Nan Flanagan, "[forgetting] her own last name."  Eric and Pam's general badassery  shouldn't erase their shittiness to Ginger. However, I think Eric's killing Rosie, in its own, twisted way, was doing her a favor, because she missed Kevin so badly that she just couldn't see herself with anyone else, so I believe that Eric helped her be with Kevin again, in his way. On a lighter note, seeing the Magister again was hilarious. If it wasn't for him and Ginger, Eric and Pam wouldn't have Fangtasia; they'd just be stuck on the tail end of a dying industry, aka the video store.

 

  On the Jessica front, Sookie was right to give her tough love. Sookie needed all the help she could get, Jess is tough when she has to be and Sookie needed her at full strength, which meant that she had to end her two month fast and eat ASAP. While technically it was Sookie who convinced Jessica to start feeding again, it was Lafayette who was the actual source and he was the one who at least had the guts to admit that he was responsible for his lover's death, unlike Sookie. However, while Lala was the one who did the deed, it was because Marnie made him, therefore Jesus' death wasn't Lala's fault, while Alcide's death is all on Sookie. Lala didn't deliberately ask Marnie to possess him, but Sookie did run back to Bill without Alcide's knowledge or consent. Sookie gambled with Alcide's life and he lost. Props to James, who was the one who went to Bill, told him about Jess "eating" disorder and asked Lala for help. True, it was Bill's idea re the latter, but I believe that Lala helped Jess and James for their sakes, not Bill's. About Sam, while he was right to want to save Nicole and their baby, his going to Fangtasia's without back-up was stupid, even by Jason's standards, hence Jason's stopping Sam at gunpoint. The H-vamps would have been asleep during the day, but so would the vamps Sam would have needed for back-up. Had Sam stormed Fangtasia alone, he might have gotten himself, Nicole and their unborn child killed.

 

  Glad that the H-Vamps and the vigilantes were killed and that Arlene was saved. While it was nice seeing Terry again, Sookie was right about the real Terry wanting Arlene to live for the kids' sake. Speaking of the kids, it was also great to see Coby and Lisa again. They've grown a lot since they were "teacup humans," asking Eric to pop his fangs and fly, to Pam's disgust.

[Mrs OldManBalls]

One thing the books and the show have in common for me is that I do not understand why every single man finds Sookie so irresistible. I mean, the fairy blood can explain the vamps away, but all the others? 

[Blakeston]

They weren't able to change it until after Vampires Came out of the Closet so they kept it a Video Rental/Sales store from 1986-2009 or 2010 (20 years later). I'm guessing by that point the Authority either let them out of the dog house or were more interested in the 80% they could get from a thriving Night Club vs a dying video rental industry.

 

Wasn't it 2008 in the show's universe when the series began? I think they'd turned the video store into Fangtasia before then.

 

As for them being allowed to change it - I guess we can fanwank that by 2006, the Authority wasn't mad at Eric anymore, and so they didn't care if he changed the business. Or that the Authority didn't care about the video store anymore because it stopped being profitable.

 

But I still think it was an odd decision for the writers to hammer home the "The Authority is forcing Pam and Eric to run a business they hate!" thing, only to show later on Pam and Eric they could change the business if they felt like it.

[roctavia]

Wasn't it 2008 in the show's universe when the series began? I think they'd turned the video store into Fangtasia before then.

 

As for them being allowed to change it - I guess we can fanwank that by 2006, the Authority wasn't mad at Eric anymore, and so they didn't care if he changed the business. Or that the Authority didn't care about the video store anymore because it stopped being profitable.

 

But I still think it was an odd decision for the writers to hammer home the "The Authority is forcing Pam and Eric to run a business they hate!" thing, only to show later on Pam and Eric they could change the business if they felt like it.

 

The show started set in 2008, the vampires had been out of the coffin for 2 years by then, so 2006 makes sense. They had just come out.

 

As for changing the store, I think vampires coming out of the coffin made a difference... before they were out, Eric and Pam needed to be contained- they were being punished and put in a place where the authority could keep really close tabs on them, since they were worried Eric and Pam would act out and jeopardize vampires coming out of the coffin...

 

But once they were out, living as a vampire was now acceptable, so running a vampire themed business makes sense. I imagine they had to get approval before they could change the store to a nightclub. Eric might have also gotten used to his role as sheriff by then, and not wanted to give that up...

Edited July 16, 2014 by Jjrmt

[Morrigan2575]

I didn't remember when the vamps came out, I just went back to that diary with the 2010 date. Ut maybe that was the current in show date? But Ginger did say that Vamps were out in the open when she presented her idea about Fangtasia. If it was 2006, that's 20 years of punishment plus no need to keep them in hiding.

[roctavia]

I didn't remember when the vamps came out, I just went back to that diary with the 2010 date. Ut maybe that was the current in show date? But Ginger did say that Vamps were out in the open when she presented her idea about Fangtasia. If it was 2006, that's 20 years of punishment plus no need to keep them in hiding.

 

Yeah, the diary was just sort of a random dates to catch us up to the fact that it's only 2011 in True Blood time... in the Pilot, which is set in 2008, Sookie says something about waiting to meet a vampire since they came out of the coffin 2 years ago... so 2006...

 

And Pam was stocking a cooler full of TruBlood when Ginger came in with her idea. The landscape changed when vampires came out, so that allowed for Fangtasia to come into being :)

[Latverian Diplomat]

Unfortunately for companies such as Blockbuster, the transition from video rental to fangbanging facilitation was not available outside of the TB universe. They could have really used a sensible business plan like that one.

[Bec]

Heh!

 

I wonder if vampire drummer Keith and Arlene will start dating. Terry did tell her to be happy. If nothing else maybe she'll have sexy dreams about him. Yes please!

 

I'm not sure how we can even pretend it's only been two years in the show's timeline when Arlene's "teacup humans" look about ready to start high school now.

[pootlus]

I have to admit I'd completely forgotten what Arlene's kids looked like, so when Sookie apparently went up to these two random children and started chatting I was racking my brains. Fortunately the dialogue made it clear eventually.

[Morrigan2575]

Heh!

I wonder if vampire drummer Keith and Arlene will start dating. Terry did tell her to be happy. If nothing else maybe she'll have sexy dreams about him. Yes please!

I'm not sure how we can even pretend it's only been two years in the show's timeline when Arlene's "teacup humans" look about ready to start high school now.

That confused me too. Who are these teens? I remember cute little kids with funny accents.

I really did enjoy that scene in S2.