Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[lilmarysunshine]

Sally lost consciousness and Elena told Adam he need to choose RIGHT NOW - “Hope” or Sally. (Sally and Adam had been discussing a “summer baby” so that means she had to be at least 6 mos pregnant. When he left the room earlier, she told him she really liked the name Hope.)  Cut to Sally in her bed (no monitoring - not in recovery or anything) and she realized the baby had died.

Cameron put a knife to Sharon’s throat and strapped Faith up with explosives and he told Nick he would either blow Faith up or slit Sharon’s throat - his choice. Sharon then grabbed the thigh knife and stabbed him in the chest and he died with his hand about 6 inches away from the detonator. But Faith is still strapped up with the explosives. 

 

[MsMalin]

31 minutes ago, A-Lo said:

On the ONE day I was actually interested in watching show, some meteorologists from Philly cut in to talk about thunderstorms in the area and hijacked the ENTIRE second half! Can anyone fill me in on what happened after Faith spit water in Cameron's face? And with the baby? Thank in advance!

I feel ya! I live in the burbs of Philly and had breathed a sigh of relief because we had a terrible storm but it ended at 1215 or so. I'm gonna watch in On Demand tomorrow.

[Julyolo]

Watched the last few minutes....long enough to catch the drift that today's theme was "Save the mom or my kid?" for both Nick & Adam. I think Sharon might be getting a new outfit as soon as Faith is no longer "The Bomb." The guy that played Cameron is a great actor, IMO. I laughed out loud during the previews when Nick started challenging Chance's competency at explosives disarming! Like, just what would have been Big Nick's back-up plan? Call the Newman Enterprises fabulous security guards?

 

Edited June 16, 2023 by Julyolo

[NinjaPenguins]

I forgot to rip a Newman earlier - Victor. Yes, Grampire, you are some hot shit, firing your security guy in a demeaning, obnoxious way, because… he didn’t contact your leathery ass immediately. What the fuck were you going to do about anything? Since security doesn’t answer to Nick or the cops, was the quite top tier team supposed to twaddle their thumbs until you gave them the go ahead?

Wasn’t the rank incompetence that aided Cameron in getting as far as he did a good reason to fire some dopes? It’s “disobedience” that acts as the straw that broke the camel’s back. And now Victor is going to storm the sewers? Come on, man.
 

[Joimiaroxeu]

Chance letting Sharon and Nick go through Cameron's duffel bag meant it and none of its contents could be used as evidence in a court of law, assuming things ever got that far. Geez, Chance, do better.

Adam joking about Baby Girl Newman dressing up for Halloween was kind of iffy to me. Hope Billy never hears him say that.

Hey, JG? You need to abolish the word "cat" and all its synonyms from your vocabulary as far as Y&R is concerned. I'm not joking.

Guess Cameron forgot about Noah and Mariah when he was waxing lunatic about creating a family life with Sharon and Faith.

DESTINY? Oh FFS, Cameron must've a watched a lot of B&B when he was in prison. Half the characters over there use "destiny" as a handy excuse for their bad deeds too. 💩💩💩💩

Victor acting all tough yet being of zero help in Sharon and Faith's dire situation. Meh. What happened to the special ops guy he said found on the internet?

AYFKMWTS???!!! How did Faith not know there was a bomb strapped under her hoodie? She should've felt it. The stupidity; it burns.

Wow, Sharon's wee little knife slid right out of its duct tape holder, easy peasy. It didn't seem big enough to kill someone instantly though. She must've been pumped with adrenaline when she used it to ventilate Cam's chest.

I am surprised this show went with surgical intervention as a plot point for Sally's pregnancy problems. That's basically illegal now in several parts of the US where Y&R likely airs. The doctor and hospital could be brought up on charges. Yet the writers wouldn't let Sally even mention the possibility of not proceeding with the pregnancy. Hmm.

Re the previews: will Chance have to decide whether to snip the red wire or the green wire as the bomb's timer clicks down to 00:00? Tune in next week on The Trite and the Clichéd.

Edited June 16, 2023 by Joimiaroxeu

[Rye]

38 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Chance letting Sharon and Nick go through Cameron's duffel bag meant it and none of its contents could be used as evidence in a court of law, assuming things ever got that far. Geez, Chance, do better.

I know y’all enjoy the eye candy but Chance needs a wheelbarrow for all these Ls he’s holding. He failed to locate Cameron even though it was obviously possible to do so since Nick did it, he didn’t sweep the house after the cat even though he was informed that the cat was inside, so he missed both the bug and the tunnel, he went through Cameron’s bag with his bare hands at the club, then he let Sharon and Nick riffle through it, and Sharon was the one who found the false bottom in it.

My guy.

Meanwhile this poor security flunky’s getting axed for not calling Victor.

Ijs Paul was always a little slow for plot purposes, but they never wrote him as this incompetent.

That said, I’m glad they wrapped this up expeditiously, I didn’t enjoy this SL.

ETA: Though I will say, Cameron’s line about Sharon’s life being meaningless because all she does is serve coffee to dummies all day was hilarious. He’s… he’s making strong points. 

Edited June 16, 2023 by Rye

[Waldo13]

Elena Elena Elana, as it was posted yesterday, wouldn’t you be alerted to a possibility of appendicitis?  Instead of asking questions, wouldn’t you think that Elena would draw blood to determine if that’s a possibility.  Also why wouldn’t Elena be taking her blood pressure and monitoring her oxygen level.  Sally might need to be put on oxygen. Elana doesn’t need Sally’s doctor’s permission to do so. Wouldn’t Sally’s doctor want to know Sally’s vitals when Elena calls?  WTF!  Sally is going to get medication to lower her blood pressure but did anyone even see somebody taking her blood pressure. Did we see someone drawing blood from Sally for them to come up with the possibilities of what condition Sally might have. Somewhere somehow appendicitis has been ruled out. The monkeys with a keyboard are now going to SORAS Sally’s pregnancy to have the OB think about inducing labor. The one thing for sure is that time is very fluid in GC.  Elena, Adam cannot make that choice.  He doesn’t have her healthcare proxy. If you are such an amazing surgeon you can save them both or at least find a specialist that can.  My daughter is an ObGyn and I asked her a question after watching this episode about how it was portrayed by the monkeys with a keyboard. She told me that I was a fool for even watching a fictional portrayal of a medical emergency or even medical shows.  They are mostly written for drama. Gray’s Anatomy is the closest to reality because they have a medical doctor consulted on every episode and goes more for a realistic approach than a dramatic one.  The OB’s in her practice and the Specialists at the hospital main goal is to save both the mother.  Adam shouldn’t even been ask to choose. Amber Lancaster is a model on the Price is Right. Go to her instagram and you can see what she went through surviving a traumatic birth. It’s eye opening and today her son is a healthy 3 1/2 years old.  

I’m I missing something here?  Isn’t Sharon’s house within the confines of Victor’s compound?  As I said yesterday, Cameron would have to tunnel from outside Victor’s compound to get under Sharon’s house then tunnel through the walls to the second floor.  So today the monkeys with a keyboard simplified how Cameron got in the house by some tunnel he made in the house but he caved it in so Banana Breath couldn’t follow him. No mention of a tunnel that he had to make to get to the house.  In Banana Breath’s genius, he doesn’t alert the security guards to look for the entrance of said tunnel where Cameron could be exiting. Are we to believe, that Cameron just ran past the guards without being noticed.  OK, I stand corrected because there is a sewer system that runs under the ranch but only for tunneling from the outside the compound.  Now there are still burning question. How did Cameron get access to the sewer system?  Also, they know about the sewer system, under the compound, so why aren’t Banana Breath, Chance, the GCPD, and Victor’s security team not searching for Cameron and Faith?  Finally, they are but now we have more soap opera drama where Sharon insists on going and she’s the first one on the scene followed by Banana Breath and Chance but no one else.  How appropriate it was to have “beauty” kill the beast. 

The way I see it as much as I dislike Cameron for kidnapping Faith, he’s as delusional as Taz🌪️ and Ashley. Cameron is delusional because, in his own way loves Sharon. On the other side of the spectrum, Taz🌪️ and Ashley are delusional out of their unadulterated hatred for Diane.  

[lilmarysunshine]

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

 

I am surprised this show went with surgical intervention as a plot point for Sally's pregnancy problems. That's basically illegal now in several parts of the US where Y&R likely airs. The doctor and hospital could be brought up on charges. Yet the writers wouldn't let Sally even mention the possibility of not proceeding with the pregnancy. Hmm.

 

They would just deliver the baby. A “summer” baby would have made her, at the earliest, about 12-13 weeks out and babies that are at 27-28 weeks are delivered, not aborted. 

Edited June 17, 2023 by lilmarysunshine

[One Tough Cookie]

On 6/15/2023 at 5:46 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

Time hasn't touched you.

Well, maybe mother nature has't touched her, but boy oh boy, father of Botox sure has.

[Joimiaroxeu]

57 minutes ago, lilmarysunshine said:

They would just deliver the baby. A “summer” baby would have made her, at the earliest, about 12-13 weeks out and babies that are at 27-28 weeks are delivered, not aborted. 

When Sally first knew she was pregnant the writing did not allow her to mention the option of not continuing with the pregnancy. Chloe sort of alluded to it but the discussion was extremely vague and brief.

Today Elena specifically said it was possible Sally and/or the baby would not survive the emergency surgery. In several states now if the baby dies it's assumed such medical intervention was the deliberate cause. The doctors and hospitals involved could be charged with doing something now deemed in those places to be illegal.

I was surprised TPTB allowed the latter scenario but the not the former since the show is broadcast in places where what happened today would be frowned upon--to put it mildly. Many doctors and hospitals will no longer treat women in Sally's situation for fear of putting themselves in legal jeopardy.

I figured the show would take the safe route and just have Sally miscarry. CH really didn't seem into wearing the fake baby bump, IMO of course.

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Well, maybe mother nature has't touched her, but boy oh boy, father of Botox sure has.

Yep and apparently among his other problems, Cameron had poor eyesight.

Edited June 17, 2023 by Joimiaroxeu

[lilmarysunshine]

44 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

When Sally first knew she was pregnant the writing did not allow her to mention the option of not continuing with the pregnancy. Chloe sort of alluded to it but the discussion was extremely vague and brief.

Today Elena specifically said it was possible Sally and/or the baby would not survive the emergency surgery. In several states now if the baby dies it's assumed such medical intervention was the deliberate cause. The doctors and hospitals involved could be charged with doing something now deemed in those places to be illegal.

I was surprised TPTB allowed the latter scenario but the not the former since the show is broadcast in places where what happened today would be frowned upon--to put it mildly. Many doctors and hospitals will no longer treat women in Sally's situation for fear of putting themselves in legal jeopardy.

One Sally scenario (early in pregnancy) is an abortion and the other is just early delivery because the mother’s life is imminently in danger. Wisconsin law (as they all do, I believe) allows for therapeutic abortions in order to save the life of the mother but you don’t have to do that at 27/28 weeks. MANY (most) babies survive that. As mentioned earlier by the ob-gyn daughter, the goal is to save BOTH of them so why did they not just deliver her baby? I would understand if she was 18 weeks along but she wasn’t. Just a sad plot contrivance. 

I am pretty sure Noah was born at an earlier gestational age than Sally’s baby. 

 

Edited June 17, 2023 by lilmarysunshine

[Waldo13]

56 minutes ago, lilmarysunshine said:

One Sally scenario (early in pregnancy) is an abortion and the other is just early delivery because the mother’s life is imminently in danger. Wisconsin law (as they all do, I believe) allows for therapeutic abortions in order to save the life of the mother but you don’t have to do that at 27/28 weeks. MANY (most) babies survive that. As mentioned earlier by the ob-gyn daughter, the goal is to save BOTH of them so why did they not just deliver her baby? I would understand if she was 18 weeks along but she wasn’t. Just a sad plot contrivance. 

I am pretty sure Noah was born at an earlier gestational age than Sally’s baby. 

 

Why did the monkeys with a keyboard have to fuck Adam up the ass one more time. And by fucking Adam, Sally got fucked also. The monkeys with a keyboard could have just written the usual Y&R senecio where the baby is taken to the NICU and Sally fights for her life, in the intensive care unit, like Adam, Nostrils, Lola, Faith, Rey etc have been there before Sally.  

Noah was premature and survived, but I really don’t know that whole story.  Christian was premature and born, with Adam delivering the baby, in Chancellor Park.  Christian and Sage were rushed to the hospital and Christen was placed in a NICU and survived.  
 

Let’s face it no matter what you think of Adam or how many times he’s been bastardized, he’s alway on the front line when someone needs help.  I don’t remember the circumstances of why Banana Breath was not there for Sage and he also was not there for Sally. I don’t remember how Sage felt about Banana Breath not being with her in her time of need;  but it’s to be determined how Sally would feel about Banana Breath not being with her, even with the mitigating circumstances, in her time of need.  Sally will probably blame Adam for choosing her over the baby, but if Banana Breath was there, I would be hard press to believe that he would choose the baby over her.  

Edited June 17, 2023 by Waldo13

[lilmarysunshine]

11 minutes ago, Waldo13 said:

Why did the monkeys with a keyboard have to fuck Adam up the ass one more time. And by fucking Adam, Sally got fucked also. The monkeys with a keyboard could have just written the usual Y&R senecio where the baby is taken to the NICU and Sally fights for her life, in the intensive care unit, like Adam, Nostrils, Lola, Faith, Rey etc have been there before Sally.  

Noah was premature and survived, but I really don’t know that whole story.  Christian was premature and born, with Adam delivering the baby, in Chancellor Park.  Christian and Sage were rushed to the hospital and Christen was placed in a NICU and survived.  
 

Yep. This writing is so horrible. (Elena has the absolute worst bedside manner, too. Hope she gets sued for malpractice.) They could have had a normal tragic pregnancy outcome with Sally having to deliver too early and the baby does not make it. But that is not good enough. Make the baby’s father, who is no relation to Sally, decide the course of action with her pregnancy so he alone can be blamed for the death of another child? Because they have not gone to the Delia well for a decade + for people to look down and castigate Adam? 

[MsMalin]

19 hours ago, A-Lo said:

 

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I just don't understand at all how Adam can legally make that decision.

Also thought it absurd that there were no other doctors or nurses hovering around or ob gyns.

[A-Lo]

20 hours ago, lilmarysunshine said:

Sally lost consciousness and Elena told Adam he need to choose RIGHT NOW - “Hope” or Sally. (Sally and Adam had been discussing a “summer baby” so that means she had to be at least 6 mos pregnant. When he left the room earlier, she told him she really liked the name Hope.)  Cut to Sally in her bed (no monitoring - not in recovery or anything) and she realized the baby had died.

Cameron put a knife to Sharon’s throat and strapped Faith up with explosives and he told Nick he would either blow Faith up or slit Sharon’s throat - his choice. Sharon then grabbed the thigh knife and stabbed him in the chest and he died with his hand about 6 inches away from the detonator. But Faith is still strapped up with the explosives. 

 

Thanks!!!

[MollyB]

2 hours ago, MsMalin said:

I just don't understand at all how Adam can legally make that decision.

 Also thought it absurd that there were no other doctors or nurses hovering around or ob gyns.

I'm going to assume that, since so much of the story happens off camera and between commercials, that Sally signed a medical directive before they wheeled her in, off camera.  Since she had no family in the immediate vicinity, she could have named Adam to make medical decisions.  Then they conveniently put her in a coma so that could happen.  I don't think legally they could let the father of the baby decide just because he was the father.  Also, Elena told Adam that if he didn't make a decision, the doctors would.  Why not just leave it up to the professionals?

I've made many trips to the ER and yeah, there is more than one person tending to the patient.  Guess the people who take blood, set up IVs, get history and insurance info were all off on break.

[One Tough Cookie]

One od the first things the ER does, as I know from personal experiences is to attach an IV portal on your hand or arm in case the patient need saline, painkillers, etc.  So they missed something there.

I missed about 20 minutes because Rain is so important so I want to be sure--the baby died?

Oh Chandsome, you are extremely inept, but so damn good looking I don't care.

Edited June 17, 2023 by One Tough Cookie

[lilmarysunshine]

1 hour ago, One Tough Cookie said:

One od the first things the ER does, as I know from personal experiences is to attach an IV portal on your hand or arm in case the patient need saline, painkillers, etc.  So they missed something there.

I missed about 20 minutes because Rain is so important so I want to be sure--the baby died?

Oh Chandsome, you are extremely inept, but so damn good looking I don't care.

IRRC the scene ended with Sally waking up and crying about her baby being gone and Adam look tortured. Now maybe they will spring it on us that the baby lived but they definitely wanted to make us think she died. 

 

 

[Waldo13]

3 hours ago, lilmarysunshine said:

IRRC the scene ended with Sally waking up and crying about her baby being gone and Adam look tortured. Now maybe they will spring it on us that the baby lived but they definitely wanted to make us think she died. 

 

 

I’ve thought long and hard about what I’m going to post next. I’m really hoping that the coming attractions of Hope being dead is just a red herring.  I’m trying very hard to make a political statement by not saying I’m pro life or pro choice but I think the monkeys with a keyboard has really botched the way Sally’s ultimate medical condition was handled in the hospital.  Adam doesn’t have the legal right to make a choice between Sally and Hope.  Sally’s condition couldn’t even be determined without Sally and the baby being monitored. For all indication of how long Sally was pregnant, Hope would be a viable birth. There was no indication that Hope was in stress in the womb. Sally would have an emergency C-Section and the doctors, in the operating room, would use extraordinary measures to save both. It’s a much higher probability that Sally would die before Hope. 

For me, this is the stick point so I’m just going to say it. Did CBS via the monkeys with a keyboard interject their political view by suggesting that Sally, had a late term abortion against her wishes,  to save her (the mother’s) life?  The whole Sally hospital saga is 🐂💩, but if my concerns are true, than CBS and Y&R took it over the red line. 

Edited June 17, 2023 by Waldo13

[Emma Snyder]

Just a little reminder to please not veer off topic about what would happen in real life with hospitals or the law; please keep any of that talk to how it relates to the characters. Thanks for doing just that so far! You have earned a bunny.

 

[Aurora2]

Perhaps I’m swimming against the current of opinion here about this story of Sally’s preeclampsia, Adam’s impossible decision and the loss of baby Hope. 

We had our hearts torn out in classic soap style by Adam and Sally’s fear and desperation about their Hope. I am thinking less of the medical inaccuracies in this story and focusing on what was, to me, truly important - the intensity of Adam and Sally’s emotions moderated by the gentle, caring touch of Dr Dawson.

BTW, I know asking Adam to make that choice was abrupt, but my take was that the writers wanted BOTH Newman brothers faced– AT THE SAME MOMENT– with the impossible choice between the life of a daughter & the life of her mother. Considering the rushed circumstances, Elena had to carry the weight of the plot point to make this happen.

[NinjaPenguins]

Adam definitely broke my heart. Nick made me laugh as he fumed with impotent rage. Sharon, Faith and Cameron carried the scenes in the sewer, imo.

I just think the bombs were excessive. Do we really think Chance is going to blow Faith and himself up in a sewer? It’s like painting a party hat on the Mona Lisa; you’ve got a good thing that didn’t need the extra embellishment. I sure hope Chance needs to be in his skivvies in order to defuse explosives.

While I don’t need gritty realism in my soaps, at least hook Sally up to something. You’re telling us she could possibly bleed to death and then she’s comatose while she lays there completely unmonitored. The dialogue tells me her situation is life threatening, while the visuals say Sally’s taking a nap in a hospital bed.

Of course, golden boy Nick will never have to bear the weight of his choice like Adam will, because Sharon took care of business and Cameron was likely going to kill them all anyway. 

[Desperado]

I had shallow comments in my mind as I watched the last episodes of the week like, what is up with Victoria’s eyeliner? I know the trend is to “move it up” to show a younger look, but dam. And why did Cameron change into his nicest shirt before entering a sewer, but I have to go deeper.

I cannot get around the misogyny of the entirety of the Sally pregnancy storyline. The writers treated her like a child, with no agency, not one thought about her pregnancy choices, being tossed like a pinball between Nick and Adam being paternalistic jerks, not telling her about the dangerous situation with Cameron and then, have be a victim to the ultimate unrealistic 1950s type choice a man has to make between her and the baby?

As much as I appreciated the work both MG and CH did (they were fabulous), I am livid.

I appreciate all your comments about the possibilities of the baby being safely delivered and how the laws in the US are around situations like these and it makes it even worse.

At least Sharon got to stab a bastard (also great work by SC and LA).

On 6/15/2023 at 1:22 PM, Julyolo said:

Seems like the show has an inordinate number of feminine victims: Faith, Sharon, Victoria, and Elena. Sally had been abandoned by Nick, while he rescues Sharon, Chelsea requires that Billy buttress her up with her parenting, and life in general. Phyllis, Diane, Summer? All primary or secondary victims of Stark. Ashley getting set up now to be abused by Tucker. I find these storylines to be regressive in every way, and the gratuitous abuse and violence involved in the Cameron, Faith, & Sharon storyline will have me "noping" out on this show for now.

 

This. 👏🏻

[MsMalin]

I guess Fridays show was their way of saying "Happy Fathers Day" in a way only the writers of Y and R can. 😡

5 hours ago, Desperado said:

I cannot get around the misogyny of the entirety of the Sally pregnancy storyline. The writers treated her like a child, with no agency, not one thought about her pregnancy choices, being tossed like a pinball between Nick and Adam being paternalistic jerks, not telling her about the dangerous situation with Cameron and then, have be a victim to the ultimate unrealistic 1950s type choice a

bravo! I have grappled with making comments all along that would be too political and I won't start now except to say I wish this soap was written as if it is 2023, not 1970.

Edited June 18, 2023 by MsMalin

[Runningwild]

The laws in any US state do not apply in Sally’s case. She did not go to the hospital for an abortion. Both parents wanted the baby. The doctors only did what they did to try and save the lives of the baby and the mother. There are no laws to prevent that. 

I’m afraid Y&R ‘s show runners/writers/TIIC are in the same ruts as the ones at B&B and GH. 
 

I’m out. 

[Waldo13]

Adam never gets a fair shake and Sally is guilty by association. For me, once the baby was given the name Hope, she also became a character. Hope also became guilty by association to Adam. Adam was too happy with being a father once again and the monkeys with a keyboard couldn’t let well enough alone. I’m almost certain that if Banana Breath, the golden boy, was the father, Sally would have had the baby and Christian could have company in the basement.  

Im quite sure that the monkeys with a keyboard will come up with some 🐂💩excuse for why Hope died.

As for Elena, she must of gotten her medical degree from the same Cracker Jack Box that Sharon got her degree.   

[boes]

I haven't been posting about Show for the last part of last week because I couldn't think of a thing to say that didn't include "Fuck them/him/her/etc." for the horrid characterizations and even worse storylines.

Good on Sharon putting down an animal while having to take a back seat to a chest thumping, brainless boards shorts bro with a need to prove his testicles descended.  Another storyline about Sally becoming a Nickmatized brain dead Stepford bun warmer for Pick-a-Newman, with Adam getting the shaft once again, this time, completely undeserving.

Then we've got the Boobsey twins, ButtBiscuit and Chelsea, embarrassing all adults and parents everywhere, along with Victoria and Sidepart, embarrassing all sentient lifeforms.

If this writing comes mainly from Josh Griffith, then he should be mocked and reviled into a comatose state, and if he used AI to do the job, well, that should put the nails in the coffin of that particular technology.

The only thing not made worse in these past few weeks were anything involving Phyllis, only because with that character and associated storylines, the bottom has already been repeatedly scraped.

The most intolerable thing, for me, was hearing Hope's name invoked and then seeing that tiny shaft of light be immediately peed upon.

Show is pissing me off, big time.

Edited June 18, 2023 by boes

[Js Nana]

With the way the writing's been going on this show, I'm waiting for the report that the "meat wagon" transporting CK's corpse to the morgue somehow erupted into a ball of fire and though the driver escaped unscathed, CK's corpse was reduced to ashes  - will Faith ever be freed from the "vest of death," will Sharon ever have another outfit to wear, will the look on Nick's face stay that way, tune in tomorrow for more in the lives of "The Rich and the Stupid."

45 minutes ago, boes said:

with a need to prove his testicles descended

In another ten years, they'll have descended to his knees.

[Js Nana]

1 hour ago, boes said:

hearing Hope's name invoked and then seeing that tiny shaft of light be immediately peed upon.

I can understand where your feelings are coming from, boes, but I do have to say that I find that imagery upsetting.

[Js Nana]

3 hours ago, Runningwild said:

The laws in any US state do not apply in Sally’s case.

vs.

10 hours ago, Emma Snyder said:

Just a little reminder to please not veer off topic about what would happen in real life with hospitals or the law

 

[SweePea59]

1 hour ago, boes said:

The most intolerable thing, for me, was hearing Hope's name invoked and then seeing that tiny shaft of light be immediately peed upon.

Why Hope, of all names? Sure it was Adam's mother, which make's a weird choice in this situation where Adam would only be co-parenting while the child would mainly live with Nick and that makes it a slap in the face to Nick since Sally is choosing to be with him instead of Adam which makes it a very illogical choice by Sally, but it was also the name Ashley gave to Faith back when Ashley thought Faith was her baby, and it's the name of a major character on show's sister soap where Sally came from. That's three good reasons to come up with any other name.

[SweePea59]

On 6/6/2023 at 9:25 PM, boes said:

I'm not watching the Cameron Kirsten crap.  I have my limits, I guess.  It just seems like a pointless, cruel story for no purpose other than Nick to lose his shit and be a hero in his own tiny mind. 

I don't see any point to it. I'm out.

On 6/7/2023 at 12:41 AM, Kitty Redstone said:

So that motherfucker Josh Griffith actually wrote in the murder of the family cat? Fuck you, Josh Griffith. Fuck you, Y&R. Fuck you, CBS for enabling this sick fucking creep. There is NO EXCUSE for this story. NONE.

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You all are the best, sweetest and funniest group of people on this entire site but I'm done with this show. I can not and will not abide animal cruelty in any form.

And once again, fuck you forever and ever Josh Griffith you worthless fucking hack.

ETA: I left feedback on CBS.com. I hope many others do as well. JG should be fired.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Animal cruelty is never funny. This won't be the first show that I have stopped watching for that reason. Now we need to make a list of all of the advertisers and let them know as well.

On 6/7/2023 at 10:31 AM, Skarzero said:

On behalf of my cats, cats in general, fellow cat lovers/caretakers, and people that just want to enjoy some good storytelling an hour a day, fuck you for eternity Josh Griffith. Eat shit.

Well put. And wouldn't it be nice to actually have some good story telling once again?

On 6/9/2023 at 11:48 PM, boes said:

Yes!  That was one place Devon should never go.  Besides what he and Abby just did to Chance and Amanda, him getting with Hilary behind the sainted Neil's back is not exactly forgotten.  

I do like Abby with Devon, though.  I'm enjoying Melissa Ordway acting with Bryton more than I have anyone else she's been with.  There's a lightness I don't remember seeing much of before.  

Abby, all around, had a good day onscreen, I think.  

Oh, boes, I loves ya, but I'll never understand your being a fan of Abby's. On the other hand, I am the biggest Sheila fan that I know of, so I guess we all have our crosses to bear. 

On 6/11/2023 at 3:55 PM, Chatty Cake said:

It’s not really the same thing because Diane was really most sincerely dead when she died. 

Yes, she was, and she should have been left to rest in peace. The ONLY reason they re-alived her was to give stupid lousy idiotic story to SyPhyllis.

On 6/13/2023 at 9:43 PM, surfgirl said:

I liked Adam's performance today, and that is saying a lot because I don't normally like him. The rest is just a bag of hot, flaming dog shit. And I'm not stomping it out, I'm walking away instead. Why? Because I don't need to watch a soap opera that thinks killing cats and showing them is entertainment, nor do I want to see imagery of a young college girl bound and gagged on a floor. No, I do not. So this show and it's show runner of one, can fuck themselves until the cows come home, but they'll do it without this viewer.

Why is CBS allowing the show to be ruined so horrifically?  Does CBS want the rating to plummet? Is this how they are killing the show?

On 6/14/2023 at 2:07 PM, peacheslatour said:

I'm sorry but I've been away. Who is Cameron?

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Up until now I would have said that Cameron was the bad guy in the worst storyline ever on this show. Now I sadly have to say that he's the bad guy in the two worst storylines ever on this show.

[boes]

2 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

but it was also the name Ashley gave to Faith back when Ashley thought Faith was her baby

I forgot all about that! 

It does add a certain creep factor when you consider Adam's part in that whole ugly mess of a storyline.

Edited June 18, 2023 by boes

[MsMalin]

YAY show! You gave us a dead cat and a dead baby. What a bunch of assholes these writers are. Why don't you give us something worth cheering for like Nick getting a vasectomy.

[Waldo13]

9 minutes ago, MsMalin said:

YAY show! You gave us a dead cat and a dead baby. What a bunch of assholes these writers are. Why don't you give us something worth cheering for like Nick getting a vasectomy.

I would cheer more if the bomb, meant for Faith, somehow blows Banana Breath’s balls off and he lives the rest of his life as a eunuch. 

[lilmarysunshine]

23 minutes ago, MsMalin said:

YAY show! You gave us a dead cat and a dead baby. What a bunch of assholes these writers are. Why don't you give us something worth cheering for like Nick getting a vasectomy.

Nick would NEVER get a vasectomy even though he should based on how little time he spends with Christian. 

This writing just underscores how little respect that awful family has for Adam. I like Adam and guess I chalk up the Ashley gaslighting to just awful writing. Like they wrote Adam terribly into a corner with that and the Rafe storyline. Neither one of those things seem to be consistent with how he has largely been portrayed. 

OTOH, since his birth, he has been shit on by ALL the Newmans. So if you are going to make me pick sides, I am gonna go with Adam, including this latest storyline where everyone was so wrapped up in Nick’s ex and spawn that nobody had time for Adam’s child, who was in peril. Hell, Nikki is probably happy and if she is not, then MTS and the writers need to rethink how they portray her. She is just a bitch. 

Edited June 19, 2023 by lilmarysunshine

[One Tough Cookie]

4 hours ago, Js Nana said:

With the way the writing's been going on this show, I'm waiting for the report that the "meat wagon" transporting CK's corpse to the morgue somehow erupted into a ball of fire and though the driver escaped unscathed, CK's corpse was reduced to ashes  - will Faith ever be freed from the "vest of death," will Sharon ever have another outfit to wear, will the look on Nick's face stay that way, tune in tomorrow for more in the lives of "The Rich and the Stupid

That's it. I'm done.

[NinjaPenguins]

4 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

while the child would mainly live with Nick and that makes it a slap in the face to Nick since Sally is choosing to be with him instead of Adam which makes it a very illogical choice by Sally

Nick’s manpain really doesn’t rate as a consideration in what Adam and Sally name their child, not that it matters now. The fact that Hope was once Faith’s name and Adam’s involvement in that mess, yeah, that is a strong argument against choosing Hope.

This show is just misery porn anymore.

[tanyak]

Oh good grief. I guess we’re supposed to handwave realism, but Elena essentially throwing Adam under the bus and then not giving him a heads up is ridiculous.

[Bunnyto4]

I truly believe Josh Griffith despises women-and apparently cats. Regarding Elena-it seems the good doctor attended the same medical school as Dr. Nick Riviera. The writing is despicable. I can't, in good conscience, continue watching this crap. 

[NinjaPenguins]

So, essentially, Nick is as useful in most situations as a fart in a mitten. Well, he can hold a flashlight while someone defuses explosives, so I shouldn’t be quite so harsh. “That’s what a father does.” You know what else a father does, Garbage Ape? Fucks off instead of blowing his own paternal horn.

Side Part is so disingenuous and smarmy. It’s hard to watch him work Victoria with his bullshit. Hopefully Audra is playing him.

What an upbeat week of Adam getting dumped on we have to look forward to! Damn, Elena drove the bus right over him. That was terrible, terrible writing. Elena is probably overworked, since she’s the sole hospital employee.

Please let Sharon change her clothes.

[One Tough Cookie]

Chancesome ya dumb bunnny--doesn't GCPD have a bomb unit?  And i'm only 10 minutes in. 

[MsMalin]

2 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

So, essentially, Nick is as useful in most situations as a fart in a mitten. Well, he can hold a flashlight while someone defuses explosives, so I shouldn’t be quite so harsh. “That’s what a father does.” You know what else a father does, Garbage Ape? Fucks off instead of blowing his own paternal horn

first, thanks for the "fart in a mitten" phrase. I'm definitely going to use that, probably on my husband. 😉

And yeah, Nick proving once again why he deserves to win Father of the  Year. Couple him tooting his horn with Sally crying for him and I had to run under the sprinkler to blow off steam.

[Kemper]

Just when you thought storylines could not possibly get worse…here we are. Demonizing Adam (apparently not on purpose by Elena?) and Sally going into a new role as Tragic Madonna is maybe what firmly breaks me from show. At least the Cameron plot was so terrible that it became farce. 
The writer’s strike is a blessing in disguise. When it is over, Sally can wake up. Adam can be getting out of the shower (Bobby Ewing-like) they are still together, no pregnancy; Tucker is on the scene with Sharon - but plotting something. Chance is a realistic cop, (maybe he can walk out of a pool) but…..Nate and Audra are still scheming together. Victoria deserves to go down, as does Nate. Audra double crosses him. Nick and Audra become a couple … he deserves it. She will laugh all the way to Newman CEO.

Edited June 19, 2023 by Kemper
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[One Tough Cookie]

I cannot believe this version of Sally.  She used to be a dynamo, but now she's like a robot {and I am NOT counting her tragedy}.  It goes farther back than that.  Ever since she hooked up with Nick. It's like she is a whole other person.

Maybe the coffee slinging shrink can help her out?

[NinjaPenguins]

1 hour ago, One Tough Cookie said:

Chancesome ya dumb bunnny--doesn't GCPD have a bomb unit?  And i'm only 10 minutes in. 

Chance is the only member of the police department, just like Elena runs the hospital by herself. Everyone else is taking a paycheck from Victor Newman to dress up in security outfits and do nothing.

Sally sounded like a kid asking for her daddy when she was accusing Adam of shutting Nick out. I don’t think a pull-my-finger joke is going to cheer her up.

[Julyolo]

Go, ahead, call me a slacker, but I tuned out when Sharon prioritized rustling up soup and grilled cheese sammiches rather than Faith and her getting some showers and into clean clothes. Hadn't they just spent more than a few hours in a sewer? They wouldn't have been sitting anywhere in my house. Spent the rest of the show studying CEU's to renew my nursing license. I guess I got subliminally motivated by the woeful lack of supporting medical staff in the GC hospital. Not even the usual social worker to talk with a patient after an infant death.

 

[Waldo13]

Cruella trying to act sweet and sexy is giving me the shits. Actually Cruella is Lana Turner’s sister, Stomach Turner.  Cruella it seems that you and Smugly Smug Smug are not the only ones who are taking a lot of time off work.  

Is GC a major city or a one traffic light town?Would it be too hard to imagine that the GCPD has a bomb squad?  Too bad Adam is preoccupied right now or he can come, dismantle the bomb, and save Faith’s life for a 3rd time.  Thank goodness that Chance has “some” military training in disarming bombs.  There doesn’t seem to be a timer on the bomb and it looks like it can only be activated by remote control so they have time to call the bomb squad or take her to the bomb squad.  Wow, what a surprise that Chance was able to disarm the bomb.  File it under the heading, nothing ever happens to the favorites of the monkeys with a keyboard.  

So we find out that Hope died from a “complication” and not from being under developed. During an “emergency” C Section, the risk of complication, to Sally, would far outweigh the risk to Hope.  Elena’s bedside manner sucks the big one.  Elena could have ask Sally, after giving her the diagnosis that there was a life threatening condition to her and the baby of who to chose. Elena could have had a consent form signed, by Sally, as to her decision.   By telling Sally that Adam had to make the choice between saving her or saving Hope it seems that Elena was covering hers and the medical teams ass for their possible incompetence.  Unless Sally’s wonderful medical team were all quacks, Hope would have been safely removed and complications would set in if Hope was underdeveloped.  The other possibility would be that Hope was a still birth but, with a baby heartbeat monitor, that would have been know beforehand.  Elena again seemed to be blaming Adam, for Hope’s death but Elena didn’t tell Sally what the complication was and if there was any possibility, at all, for Hope to be saved nor did Elena tell Sally how close she was to death to warrant saving her over Hope.  There were a few very good reason that Adam didn’t have to make a choice.  By the way, Sally looked damn good for going through life threatening surgery 🤔. 🐂💩abounds and as usual, Hope’s end was purely for drama and not medical. 

 

[Joimiaroxeu]

Victoria trying to act like she half cared what Nick was going through with Cameron. Ugh. Wait until she finds out how bad things got with Cam while she was busy riding Nate's joystick in the NE Secksay Times Hotel Suite.

A year or two from now I bet Faith and Chance will be a couple. Going through intensely stressful and dangerous situations together often leads people to continue the connection romantically.

Sharon doesn't have to get taken to the police station for questioning? Even if it was self-defense I don't see Chance having the final word. Plus he should take statements from Faith and Nick. A relative of Cameron's could claim he was murdered and Chance helped the Newmans cover it up by shutting down the case prematurely.

Oh sure, Victor said he would've been at Faith's side in the sewage drain but the police wouldn't let him in. Since when has TGVN ever been held back by the GCPD? And geez, enough with the security team guarding the cottage! Fat lot of help they were when Cameron was tunneling into it right under their noses.

I think Audra needs to find something better to do than monitor Nate's boudoir activity with Victoria. She may be good at corporate gamesmanship but Nate is someone who likely isn't going to carry his weight when the going gets rough.

Now both Victoria and Victor have spied Audra and Nate publicly behaving in ways which could be interpreted as conspiratorial. Ruh roh.

Guess today was Emmy reel day for CH and MG. They both got to do a lot of Acting! and it looks like more is coming this week, especially for CH. Yay? 😕

[Chatty Cake]

26 minutes ago, Julyolo said:

Go, ahead, call me a slacker, but I tuned out when Sharon prioritized rustling up soup and grilled cheese sammiches rather than Faith and her getting some showers and into clean clothes. Hadn't they just spent more than a few hours in a sewer? They wouldn't have been sitting anywhere in my house. Spent the rest of the show studying CEU's to renew my nursing license. I guess I got subliminally motivated by the woeful lack of supporting medical staff in the GC hospital. Not even the usual social worker to talk with a patient after an infant death.

 

The not showering bothered me so much. I also was wondering if poor Faith had peed her pants and possibly pooped them too. If Side Part could let Audra know that Victoria was “freshening up” they could have gotten Faith to a shower.

Why would Elena tell Sally that Adam was forced to make a choice immediately after letting Sally know her hormones were in a downward spiral? Such an unnecessary thing to tell her.