Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[DanaMB]

NuMichael is great.  Hot, can act, and like others have said, brings a maturity to the character.  He's no longer a derp.

[Cheyanne11]

So Willow can't believe that "Michael wants to take my kids away from me" when that's exactly what she was planning on doing to him.  THIS IS WHY THEY BOTH SUCK.

[Noneofyourbusiness]

13 hours ago, Daisy said:

Okay. 

Drew. Did you forget that Scout is your daughter too. Maybe she would like to have Lila's ring

I thought about that, too, but saying it's for Amelia would sound better to Willow even in her current brainwashed state than "I'm grabbing this for my own kid".

13 hours ago, Daisy said:

do you think for ONE MOMENT Tracy is going to let you live when she realises you have it? She will end you, fool. 

I look forward to seeing it.

BTW, it's going to be the cherry on top of everything when Gio learns even the date of his birth was a lie.

51 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I do, too, but I think CD was so checked out as Michael for so long that the pairing would have been another dud. I don't think the writing would have been that great, either. I'n hopeful the recast revives Michael and inspires better stories.

Chad Duell's Michael being too mild and less interesting started around the same time he started wanting to be nice ELQ businessman Michael (something that explicitly bored him the first time Edward gave him and Abby jobs) instead of grew up in the mob life and has PTSD Michael, so the writing is a factor. What we've seen so far gives enough reason to hope that they've changed tacks.

Edited May 30 by Noneofyourbusiness

[Sake614]

39 minutes ago, Noneofyourbusiness said:

I thought about that, too, but saying it's for Amelia would sound better to Willow even in her current brainwashed state than "I'm grabbing this for my own kid".

I look forward to seeing it.

BTW, it's going to be the cherry on top of everything when Gio learns even the date of his birth was a lie.

Chad Duell's Michael being too mild and less interesting started around the same time he started wanting to be nice ELQ businessman Michael (something that explicitly bored him the first time Edward gave him and Abby jobs) instead of grew up in the mob life and has PTSD Michael, so the writing is a factor. What we've seen so far gives enough reason to hope that they've changed tacks.

I have less than zero interest in Michael being mobbed up. And I do believe Rory’s Michael is capable of being a successful businessman if that’s what he wants. At least he’d be believable.  Chad just LOOKS very young and that was a huge hindrance in business stories. He also lacks charisma. 

[boes]

The scenes with Dante and Lulu seemed truncated to me, as if some of it got cut.  It felt like Lulu went right to righteous anger without even getting to use her waverying crywhine voice.  Dante seemed to me, as if he was actually exhausted from all the angry scenes he's been doing.

I agree with Dante, though, that Lulu told/confided in far too many people without clueing Dante in.  She should have kept her mouth shut until she had the absolute proof she said she wanted before telling him.  I loved Dante's look and response when she told him she'd confided in Carly.  That was definitely a WTF moment for him.

I really love Gio and I'm starting to love Emma with him, too.  I thought Tracy, Ned, Olivia were all pretty awesome yesterday.

Who's up for a new drinking game?  One shot for every time Sasha rubs her belly.  Yesterday we would have been three sheets to the wind considering how many times she did it.  I'd be up for a minor storyline of Sasha losing her voice for an extended period, as well.

[ciarra]

Willow is a moron with, "I'm removing my rings, my marriage is over." when she's sitting in the car of the guy she's living with.  She can tell herself she kept the rings on for the kids' sake, but did she really think she and Michael would reconcile, and maybe have a spare room for her to keep Drew?  

[Cheyanne11]

3 minutes ago, ciarra said:

She can tell herself she kept the rings on for the kids' sake

She literally moved said kids in with her lover, but the rings were going to keep up the illusion.  Sure, Willow, sure.

[Suicidy 2.0]

11 hours ago, ulkis said:

I applaud this with my ten fingers and toes. However, I will say that both Brook Lynn and Chase cared that they lied to Dante. Chase wanted to tell but Brook Lynn stopped him, and I don't blame him for that, although if he doesn't explode soon I'll call bullshit, and Brook Lynn she cared but she didn't want to tell him because it would open up a lot of painful stuff for her,and that's fine but don't act like it was for their son.

I could have sworn in the 90s RS didn't make expressions straight from silent film acting 101:

RS:  “Are you sure this isn’t over the top?”

Frank: “Nah, go bigger.  The fans are gonna love it!”

Edited May 30 by Suicidy 2.0

[sashabear21]

Maybe Willow thought Michael would agree to be in a throuple with her and Drew? I’m only into the idea because it would make Carly’s head explode! 

[Bringonthedrama]

Wowwww Lois really has Carly levels of no boundaries and selfishness. She hasn't even changed clothes and she's right there in the Q kitchen, telling Brook Lynn to get Anna to have Gio's phone tracked and digging in that she did the right thing for Gio, Camila and Brook Lynn.  Umm, Lois, gifting your teenage daughter's baby to a relative is not a consolation prize to lift that woman's depression from becoming a widow!! And damn it seems like Grandma Gloria may be worse than Lois, with that attitude and tone toward Brook Lynn like she's a teenager who's about to get lectured and grounded.

It's WTF comical that pregnant Sasha told NuMichael to feel the baby kick, then bashed Willow to him and moments later looked so content playing family with him and his/Willow's kids as his mother walked in. 

As a JJ/Lucky fan, I really hated the Alexis-Kristina-Lucky scenes.

Regarding the preview for Monday, I'm interested in the Dante/Rocco/Lulu scenes and whatever Gio is going to say in his visit to Sonny. Despite the preview, I doubt Lucky is going to come clean with Elizabeth.

Edited May 30 by Bringonthedrama

[statsgirl]

Curtis: "That would be using Aurora to further my personal agenda and I don't want to do that."   Carly: "And i respect that [but I really am going to ask you to do that anyway."

Sasha:" Willow threw away her marriage to you after you treated her so well. She deserves a sleaze like Drew."  Sasha, you suck so much. I hope this blows up in your face publicly in court.

"Thank you for believing that I never intended to kill anyone." Kristina, you cut the brakes of Ava's car. What did you think was going to happen with cut brakes?

Laura to Liz: I want Lucky here with you raising your child together. {Me: Laura, that horse left the barn years ago.)

Gio, you need a passport these days to go to Canada. Yes, it's recent.

I wonder where Lois spent the night as she's still in the same clothes she wore for the NB.

14 hours ago, MissPriss said:

Let me preface my comment with my age… 75 years young. To me NuMichael resembles a young Richard Chamberlain, especially in profile. 

That brings back memories! AS a child I used to watch him on TV singing "Dream".

14 hours ago, sashabear21 said:

My mom's first husband found out when he was 18 in 1962 that his sister who was 16 years older than him was his biological mother and the parents that raised him were his grandparents.

This was very common in 1944. Even into the 60s, I remember being told about local families where a child found out that his/her older sister was actually their mother.

4 hours ago, Noneofyourbusiness said:

To be fair, she said before that she'd thought about trying to find him. Her reason for not trying to find him was that it should be his choice to reach out, with her not knowing that could never happen because he was lied to.

For this, I blame Camilla. When she got sick and there was a chance of her dying, she should have told Gio about his birth parents so that he could be tethered if he wanted.

[JMO]

Lucky:  "I really want to help in any way that I can." Really?  I could just barely understand his agreeing to help Kristina in the moment of the accident because he was touched by her level of distress.  But he's had plenty of time to snap out of it, and has apparently not taken advantage of any of that time.  

This is the second conversation Liz has had where she's questioned whether Lucky can be in it for the long term, which makes me wonder if JJ is going somewhere.  Laura's hoping there's a chance of Lucky settling into living in PC when all he's got is a bartending job (bartending is a fine job, just not for someone with wanderlust and a hero complex) makes me realize how much of a blind eye she has where her children are involved.  

Sasha is a strange bird, and I wish they'd never made her a Scorpio.  

I enjoyed Nina's convoluted thinking aloud about the whole Willow/Michael/Drew mess, and what she should do about it. 

Lois has some valid points.  BL has some valid points.  Gio has some valid points.  Pretty much everybody in this story has some valid points, and none of them are completely right or completely wrong. It's what makes the story so interesting (and this board so active!).  Looking forward to Dante telling Rocco, and Gio's conversation with Sonny.  I think he trusts Sonny to the point that he'll believe what Sonny tells him about who knew what, and when.  And Sonny has enough empathy for Lois that he might be able to get Gio not to hate her, even if there's still alienation.

I do hope that the fallout from this won't rob Gio of his music.  Although he'll need a new violin.

[Suicidy 2.0]

1 hour ago, sashabear21 said:

Maybe Willow thought Michael would agree to be in a throuple with her and Drew? I’m only into the idea because it would make Carly’s head explode! 

Since Sasha is having Michael’s kid they could pull her in too and make it a quadruple.

[YaddaYadda]

2 hours ago, boes said:

Who's up for a new drinking game?  One shot for every time Sasha rubs her belly.  Yesterday we would have been three sheets to the wind considering how many times she did it.

Yes. We should. The number of times they zoom in on her hands on her belly is obnoxious AF.

I don't know if the Emma actress looked at Finola's old tapes, but on top of looking like her supposed grandmother, but her acting reminds me of Finola too.

Elizabeth and Lucky live together, but that whole relationship is starting to remind me of Sam and Dante where everything was off screen. We knew they were together. We knew they were raising their kids together, but we saw like 1% of it, if that.

Alexis should wash her hands off Kristina. She's a goddamn adult, let her suffer the consequences of her actions. 

Is Curtis going to divorce Portia at some point, or is Jordan's secret still so much worse than lying about a child and lying about being blackmailed? 

[dubbel zout]

I'm glad Alexis isn't beating around the bush: "Tell me everything that happened the night Kristina tried to kill Ava."

9 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

 Umm, Lois, gifting your teenage daughter's baby to a relative is not a consolation prize to lift that woman's depression from becoming a widow!!

You're missing the point, @Bringonthedrama. It's a baby! Every woman wants one. If Gio helped Camilla with her grief, so much the better. /s

STFU, Sasha. Your opinion of Michael and Willow's marriage is worthless.

3 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

"Thank you for believing that I never intended to kill anyone." Kristina, you cut the brakes of Ava's car. What did you think was going to happen with cut brakes?

Who's the bigger dunce right now: Kristina or Willow? It's quite a cage match.  Oooh, a late entry: Portia. And sneaking in at the very end, Alexis. Did she think Laura wouldn't notice $10 million missing from the Cassadine trust? That's not exactly peanuts.

1 minute ago, JMO said:

Lois has some valid points.

I ask this with all sincerity: What are they? She completely betrayed her daughter—and by extension Gio and everyone else. Her reasoning is all based on a terrible lie.

Ugh, Gloria. BL can rag on Lois as much as she wants, and you might as well get in line.

[statsgirl]

20 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

STFU, Sasha. Your opinion of Michael and Willow's marriage is worthless.

Is Sasha ever going to remember that she created Michael and Willow's marriage? Without her, Willow would be with Chase.

22 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Ugh, Gloria. BL can rag on Lois as much as she wants, and you might as well get in line.

That was so weird. Lois is an adult, she doesn't need her mommy to protect her from the consequences of her actions and lies to her now adult daughter. What a messed up family dynamic. And these are the people who hate the Quartermines!

[sacrebleu]

So, my hope is that Nina shares the Michael/ Sasha secret with Ric, who either gets Michael to commit perjury ( uses threat of perjury charges as leverage for a good custody arrangement)

Or gets Sasha to commit perjury and uses the threat of Sasha's imprisonment on perjury charges as leverage)

Either way, the Carlys lose one round ( at least) Sasha is taken down a peg and Ric maintains his title as town Evil doer.

And I hope the writers finally let the audience know  why Drew took his evil turn ( is he Shiloh? Is it PTSD from prison? Did somebody activate his Victor-induced mind control for some nefarious purpose?)

 

[ciarra]

I guess I thought of Titanic when I saw Michael "rescue" Wiley at the Nurses' Ball, like he needed to use him to get a spot on a lifeboat.  In this case, Michael had to take the kids right away, because the next day wasn't good enough.

While Drillow are morally repulsive, they are not beating Wiley or neglecting him.  They're not running off with him to another country.   No need to swoop in and save him, other than for the drah-mah.  

 

[KittenPokerCheater]

I will be furious is Brook Lyn forgives her Mom and grandmother Cerullo any time soon.

 

[ljr]

Who cares who gets custody of Michael’s kids? When will they end this story?

 

[TVbitch]

Just a week ago Sasha was having Jason feel up her baby belly. It's her go to move to snag a man. 

Lucky and Liz are dying on the vine. They need their own story pronto! And Lucky better come all the way clean with her about the accident. ..It's like NO ONE in this town is capable of just telling the truth, about anything! 

[dubbel zout]

I still need a better reason than "I feel sorry for her" for why Lucky is involved here. Fine, feel sorry for Kristina, but why lie for her?

Doesn't telling Elizabeth what happened make her an accessory after the fact, if things turn criminal? Gah.

Like so many things on this fakakta show, it makes no sense.

Edited May 30 by dubbel zout

[ciarra]

I forgot that Nina will be stabbing her ex-"daughter" Sasha in the back if she reveals Sasha's real babydaddy.  Sasha is one of the few people in Port Charles who are nice to Nina.  Awkward.

[JMO]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

I ask this with all sincerity: What are they? She completely betrayed her daughter—and by extension Gio and everyone else. Her reasoning is all based on a terrible lie.

I think the main point Lois has going for her is that, while everyone who is just finding out has the benefit of hindsight, Lois had to live the whole thing moving forward.  She had a pregnant teen who was desperate not to be a mother, and stumbled upon a way to feel comfortable that the baby would be safe and loved.  The wisdom can be argued, but the intent is, I think, defensible. For BL to call it a betrayal from the outset would require us to believe that this same desperate 16-year-old had thought out all of the ramifications, rather than just depending on her mother to make the crisis go away. 

In general, I think kids who are adopted should be told so, but the timing will vary from situation to situation. Maybe Camilla didn't tell Gio because the ensuing conversation might have landed on BL being his bio mom, and she was respecting BL's initial wishes.  Maybe no one thought it would be a good idea to tell Gio in the immediate aftermath of his mother's death. Maybe there were a host of other times when it could and should have happened, but everyone seemed happily ensconced in their lives.  Lots of maybes, lots of gray area, and I think most of life is lived there.

On a tangential note, I wondered if there would be any mention of BL having raised BaileyLou for Maxie for those many months, and how the knowledge of her prior pregnancy played into BL's emotions of the time.  

[Sake614]

Great column by Alan Sarapa about Sonny’s future on GH and how ridiculous it is that he’s the leading man.

https://thepopbreak.com/2025/05/30/alans-soap-box-does-general-hospital-still-need-sonny/

[Daisy]

2 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Sasha:" Willow threw away her marriage to you after you treated her so well. She deserves a sleaze like Drew."  Sasha, you suck so much. I hope this blows up in your face publicly in court.

 

I been seeing this so much. or "respectable Michael." and I'm like.  okay listen. again I get it. we hate Drew. (because they couldn't have Drew just be... NOT this). but sometimes people just fall in love with other people and it sucks when you are married, and she shouldn't have cheated (100 percent) 

BUT YOU SLEPT WITH HER HUSBAND. YOU. SLEPT. WITH. HER. HUSBAND. BEFORE. SHE. SLEPT. WITH. DREW. 

and I don't care that they were kissing and emotional affair and whatever. I don't care that you were drunk. had WIllow told Michael about kiss number two (and I do personally believe she didn't because she wanted to just forget about it and work on the marriage - Michael would have what? siad well I was so upset that you kissed another man I got drunk and screwed your best friend? sorry?)  Michael was sitting on nanny cam sex to do what exactly? treat her well with that information? I don't think so. 

So tired of Sasha. Tired. of. her. 

1 hour ago, statsgirl said:

Is Sasha ever going to remember that she created Michael and Willow's marriage? Without her, Willow would be with Chase.

and I hate the way she threw that in Willow's face too. "Well i gave up everything so you can have this life." bitch, Willow never asked you to.  Honestly I'd just respect Sasha a tiny bit more if she flat out said, "I'm angry becuse this is what I wanted, I wanted wiley as my kid, I wanted to have Michael's kid and I was a moron and give it up and now I'm not. deuces."
 

2 hours ago, JMO said:

Sasha is a strange bird, and I wish they'd never made her a Scorpio.  

me too. and cody. like God forbid people on this show can just.. NOT be insta-connected to legacy families. so pissed off about that

[dubbel zout]

Thanks, @JMO. I appreciate your thoughtful response. I don't think anyone believes Lois's intent wasn't to ensure Gio's health and happiness, but it wasn't her place to decide how that happened. BL seemed to have been very clear about a closed adoption, and Lois ignored that.

36 minutes ago, Daisy said:

So tired of Sasha. Tired. of. her. 

I wonder if Sasha's baby will have a heart problem and that's how the paternity news will come out. I'd rather the baby be a tock, but that's unlikely.

38 minutes ago, Daisy said:

3 hours ago, JMO said:

Sasha is a strange bird, and I wish they'd never made her a Scorpio.  

me too. and cody. like God forbid people on this show can just.. NOT be insta-connected to legacy families. so pissed off about that

You know this is one of my biggest pet peeves!

[Sake614]

All this talk of Drew moving to DC PERMANENTLY has me wondering how he plans to represent PC when he doesn’t live there? Every politician maintains a residence in their home city or they can’t hold office. And they have to actually live there for the majority of the year. Receive mail there. Pay rent/ mortgage, property taxes. But GH never met a law or requirement stand in the way of a stupid story…

1 minute ago, dubbel zout said:

I'd rather the baby be a tock

I wouldn’t but I also wouldn’t object to her dying in childbirth and then the baby dies. If she’s staying, then the character has been thru too much hell to lose another child. And I’m really not in the mood to sit through months and months and MONTHS of her sobbing.

[Daisy]

17 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I wonder if Sasha's baby will have a heart problem and that's how the paternity news will come out. I'd rather the baby be a tock, but that's unlikely.

It's interesting because I don't remember if Jason (or Morgan) having this issue, and they didn't bring it up for Amelia so it might not be a thing. 

we're stupidly stuck with this baby because we already lost Kristina/Molly's baby. which is why Amelia shouldn't exist. Michael should not have three kids. (neither should Maxie but whatever). 
 

18 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

You know this is one of my biggest pet peeves!

it's so annoying. and honestly, Nina was right there.  why not have the con be the reason why she's so sweet and everything to Nina was because she really IS Nina's daughter but she just .. didn't want to be connected for [insert reason]. it works better than Willow (and Sasha looks a bit more like Nelle THAN WILLOW does so like come on). 

honestly whatever caring i had for Sasha died the moment they made her a scorpio becuse it's like Sam and Cody and Peter. You make this character. they have their story. there is a clear perfectly GOOD REASON for them to leave the show - but you like the actor so you think well why would they stay on canvas: OH I KNOW. THEY ARE RELATED TO SOMEONE DUN DUN DUHH secret love child!!

Then when you DO bring in people who DO make sense (Jimmy Lee Holt's kid) - you POOP ALL OVER IT. WHY?! 

22 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

I wouldn’t but I also wouldn’t object to her dying in childbirth and then the baby dies. If she’s staying, then the character has been thru too much hell to lose another child. And I’m really not in the mood to sit through months and months and MONTHS of her sobbing.

baby dies, and she leaves town. win win.

[Cheyanne11]

16 minutes ago, Daisy said:

39 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I wonder if Sasha's baby will have a heart problem and that's how the paternity news will come out. I'd rather the baby be a tock, but that's unlikely.

It's interesting because I don't remember if Jason (or Morgan) having this issue, and they didn't bring it up for Amelia so it might not be a thing. 

It only affects the firstborn sons. /sarcasm

ETA: Morgan also wouldn't be affected because the defect is on the Q family line.  

Edited May 30 by Cheyanne11

[Daisy]

1 minute ago, Cheyanne11 said:

It only affects the firstborn sons. /sarcasm

just like the birthmark roll-eyes

[Cheyanne11]

Does Sasha hear herself?  The con artist daughter of one of PC's biggest con artists is saying WILLOW "hid her true self from all of us?"  LOL, I may never stop laughing. 

[rur]

8 minutes ago, Daisy said:

just like the birthmark roll-eyes

I was just thinking about that story line. It'd be a nice callback if boy baby had a birthmark, and since Sasha wouldn't know anything about the Alan/Rick/Monica history she wouldn't cover it up. Then Tracy could put the pieces together. 

[Daisy]

13 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Does Sasha hear herself?  The con artist daughter of one of PC's biggest con artists is saying WILLOW "hid her true self from all of us?"  LOL, I may never stop laughing. 

the baby has legit Carlyfied her brain

[Cheyanne11]

4 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

don't know if the Emma actress looked at Finola's old tapes, but on top of looking like her supposed grandmother, but her acting reminds me of Finola too.

I noticed today, too.  A couple of her lines reads had a definite tone that Finola uses.  It was really cool.

[Grinaldi]

If Emma starts pulling at the ends of her sleeves then we will really know she's studying Finola.

These last two weeks it feels like the show got the memo from Beyond the Gates. These were grounded, human stories where everyone has a valid perspective. 

I've been a skeptical of this Gio story because I don't think it ultimately has long term implications on the canvas other than Lois being personal non grata. But at least the reveal here has been done remarkably well. And Michael's return has reduced the dumb of that story (still plenty of dumb left with the ridiculous legal shenanigans, but at least it feels like there is momentum)

Now they need to figure out how to work with JJ's schedule to maximize his impact because we are asking "where is Lucky?" way too much. 

[statsgirl]

1 hour ago, Daisy said:

the baby has legit Carlyfied her brain

The baby certainly accelerated it but any woman who falls for Michael loses all common sense. Nelle was the one exception and for that I can forgive her her sins.

No saint but a controlling Michael inhabits my screen.

 

[jsbt]

I think Lucky is plainly and simply not a priority for Frank, particularly since JJ has made it clear he wanted to be re-paired with Becky Herbst. When JPS has an availability Frank upends the entire show around the Great Valentin.

[KittenPokerCheater]

Liz is better off without Lucky, and the she deserves a real storyline ASAP.  Being with Lucky is boring as dishwater and I wish they would write the character off if they're not going to use him.

[Daisy]

12 minutes ago, KittenPokerCheater said:

Liz is better off without Lucky, and the she deserves a real storyline ASAP.  Being with Lucky is boring as dishwater and I wish they would write the character off if they're not going to use him.

Or just freaking recast him. I'll be dead honest I don't really care one wit about Jonathan Jackson's Lucky, and I'm not anti-recast like a lot of people, so just be like. thanks, and we're going to find someone who is good looking and can act and HE can be Lucky

 

Again. the fact that Lucky is protecting Kristina also ticks me off esp. because the mother of his children was hurt because of it. 

[driver18]

2 hours ago, Daisy said:

it works better than Willow (and Sasha looks a bit more like Nelle THAN WILLOW does so like come on). 

I dont agree with this. The issue is that they don't have Nelle for Willow to interact with. (PLEASE, Chloe,  come back!!) As for Willow not looking like Nelle, that's fine. Nelle looks like her mother. Willow looks strikingly like her father, Silas Clay. I noticed that when Willow and Finn were in a scene and it struck me how much they look alike, and I thought, wow, she could be his daughter! Then I was like, hah! Well, in a way, she is.

[Daisy]

58 minutes ago, driver18 said:

I dont agree with this. The issue is that they don't have Nelle for Willow to interact with. (PLEASE, Chloe,  come back!!) As for Willow not looking like Nelle, that's fine. Nelle looks like her mother. Willow looks strikingly like her father, Silas Clay. I noticed that when Willow and Finn were in a scene and it struck me how much they look alike, and I thought, wow, she could be his daughter! Then I was like, hah! Well, in a way, she is.

that's fair. 
but i'm just saying Willow didn't have to be related to anyone, and I think having it double twisted that Sasha was makes a lot more sense especially because I do believe that Sasha does look somewhat like Nina, and they had that bond. (if they HAD to make sasha be someone).

[boes]

Today's really my first time seeing - and hearing - Gloria and I already hate her.

Is it deserved?

[tessaray]

2 hours ago, boes said:

Today's really my first time seeing - and hearing - Gloria and I already hate her.

Is it deserved?

Some people like her, though I think it's more the actress? I don't recall her being quite this annoying before. 🤷‍♀️

[ljr]

They made Sasha a Scorpio and Robert is not on the show anymore. Her only Scorpio connections are her ex boyfriend and mac

Has any character said yet why would Sasha sleep with Jason? 

Edited May 31 by ljr

[YaddaYadda]

5 hours ago, boes said:

Today's really my first time seeing - and hearing - Gloria and I already hate her.

Is it deserved?

Her walking into the Q mansion like she owns the place makes it deserved.

[driver18]

12 hours ago, Daisy said:

that's fair. 
but i'm just saying Willow didn't have to be related to anyone, and I think having it double twisted that Sasha was makes a lot more sense especially because I do believe that Sasha does look somewhat like Nina, and they had that bond. (if they HAD to make sasha be someone).

I actually love that Sasha and Nina aren't related and still have a bond. I also dont think they look alike at all, just have the same coloring. I also love that Sasha is a Scorpio.

5 hours ago, ljr said:

They made Sasha a Scorpio and Robert is not on the show anymore. Her only Scorpio connections are her ex boyfriend and mac

Mac, Cody... and Felicia, Maxie, her kids, Emma, and Anna through marriage. AND Sasha has had quite a few bonding scenes with Mac and Felicia, Felicia especially, a few with Emma, and while she and Maxie were friends before, they have connected moreso as family.

Again, I love that Sasha is a Scorpio. I just can't wait until this stupid story is over so she can go back to being thoroughly likable.

[Cheyanne11]

5 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

Her walking into the Q mansion like she owns the place makes it deserved.

Absolutely insufferable.  So the Qs are evil but she's just acting like it's her house.  And now she's going to lecture BL about why she cannot be angry about what she and Lois did.  Fuck off, Gloria.

[dubbel zout]

15 hours ago, Grinaldi said:

I've been a skeptical of this Gio story because I don't think it ultimately has long term implications on the canvas other than Lois being personal non grata.

The show is notorious for not following through. We get a blast of consequences for a couple of months at most, and then it's all forgotten. There seems to be no long-term plan for anything, and it's annoying, lazy, and dumb.

14 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Nelle was the one exception and for that I can forgive her her sins.

And look what happened to her: Another one in the line of Michael's dead SOs.

7 hours ago, tessaray said:

Some people like her, though I think it's more the actress? I don't recall her being quite this annoying before. 🤷‍♀️

Gloria has been the worst cliché of Bensonhurst from the moment she appeared onscreen. It's embarrassing to watch.

5 hours ago, ljr said:

Has any character said yet why would Sasha sleep with Jason? 

Of course not: It's Jason. That in and of itself is the only reason anyone needs. Also: plot point. Sarcasm aside, I think Tracy might have said something when she first heard, but because it was Tracy, it was immediately brushed aside. 

4 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

5 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

Her walking into the Q mansion like she owns the place makes it deserved.

Absolutely insufferable.  So the Qs are evil but she's just acting like it's her house.  And now she's going to lecture BL about why she cannot be angry about what she and Lois did.  Fuck off, Gloria.

I know for production/taping reasons why Lois and Gloria are in the Q mansion, but it's ridiculous when all they do is rag on how terrible the Qs are.  It's so idiotic. I wish someone would kick them both out. Olivia isn't much better, but at least she's married to a Q.

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19 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Is Sasha ever going to remember that she created Michael and Willow's marriage? Without her, Willow would be with Chase.

She remembers. A month or two ago, she brought up that fact and said that in light of what's happened with Drillow she made a mistake getting Willow and Michael together and wishes she hadn't.

20 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

Alexis should wash her hands off Kristina. She's a goddamn adult, let her suffer the consequences of her actions. 

Alexis apparently doesn't want either of her daughters to face adult realities. When Kristina offered to turn herself in this episode, Alexis said she couldn't because Molly would be devastated (because her sister was an attempted murderer and her father was a blackmailer, something Alexis said the other week, too).

The Sasha's baby paternity secret might be the thing that drives Ava and Ric apart that Alexis was hoping for, if Ric wants to expose it and Ava doesn't want to because Nina doesn't.

17 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I'd rather the baby be a tock

I don't know what that means, and Googling "tock" "baby" didn't help.

I don't want anything bad to happen to Sasha's baby because she's already been through that. Actually, I don't want stillbirths, miscarriages and SIDS in general, but especially not when Sasha's already been through that.

15 hours ago, Grinaldi said:

And Michael's return has reduced the dumb of that story (still plenty of dumb left with the ridiculous legal shenanigans, but at least it feels like there is momentum)

I'd like Michael to have come back with actual, concrete plans of how to take revenge on Drew already in mind.

14 hours ago, Daisy said:

Again. the fact that Lucky is protecting Kristina also ticks me off esp. because the mother of his children was hurt because of it. 

Children, plural. The fact they only ever mention Aiden in that context since Lucky's come back is irritating. Lucky was always portrayed as being a father to Jake regardless of biology.

14 hours ago, driver18 said:

Willow looks strikingly like her father, Silas Clay.

That reminds me of how Michael's other love interest Kiki was Silas's daughter, too. He's been with all three of Silas's daughters. And their uncle (Wiley and Amelia's great-uncle) Stephen is vampire lord Caleb Morley, lol.

Which is ironic because Michael and Starr (whose actress then played Kiki when they removed the One Life to Live characters) dressed as a vampire couple for Halloween 2012.

22 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Absolutely insufferable.  So the Qs are evil but she's just acting like it's her house.  And now she's going to lecture BL about why she cannot be angry about what she and Lois did.  Fuck off, Gloria.

Is anyone ever going to point out to Lois that she's free-loading off the people she thinks are so terrible? Not that she has to be wrong about them being terrible, but if they are then she shouldn't be associating with them like this and bringing Gio to their house.

Edited May 31 by Noneofyourbusiness