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18 hours ago, Fellaway said:

That whole thing with Dante and Gio was an outstanding example of bad writing. But seriously. Out of character for Dante and, since he's been on this show, when have they ever shown Gio to be anything but a fine, generous, upstanding young man? If he's the result of being coddled and never held responsible, may all parents coddle and never hold responsible their kids.

Writers, if this was your attempt to make the inevitable reveal that Dante is Gio's father that much more emotional, do better. But seriously.

 

I guess we should count our blessings that we got the "his own son," wail of regret out of Lois without Gio being shot by his biological father in the chest at point blank range. Speaking of, hey Dante, let's see that scar. Oh, "what scar" you ask?

But, OF COURSE ShrewLu is figuring out everything. The Spawn of the Supercouple can never be wrong. She's to blame for Dante acting like a complete dick to Gio and having the gall to complain that Gio has been coddled his whole life, then turn around and NOT say a damn word to Rocco about consequences of his own teenage stupidity . It's being too close to her that does it. The entitled,  judgmental ShrewLu-ness evidently rubs off. 

 

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Yeah, MSNBC has had a live camera shot of a closed door for a half hour. There's still the new Pope walking out and waving, the new Pope's name reveal (and dissection of its significance), the new Pope's background, dissections of his beliefs, whether he's Benedict-conservative or Francis-liberal, the new pope's speech (and dissection of that), then the talking head's conclusions and opinions. I guess the upside is we'll have breaking news about something beside our own government's latest screw up. 

My guess is today's GH will be shown tomorrow. 

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DanaK

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25 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

Not if it’s preempted nationwide. There’s still a possibility that the 3 pm show will air, but it’s very slim. I suspect the coverage will last most of the afternoon.

Hmm, maybe not. I'm watching live on my desktop computer and it looks like they are done for the afternoon (ETA: or maybe not)

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statsgirl

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Jason to Danny: "You have to look out for Rocco. That's what brothers do."

Me: Really Jason? Is that what you did for AJ?

The person who is looking the worst in this is Dante (stupid writers). He should have been yelling at Rooco because he's not that much younger than Danny. And at himself for not teaching Rocco how to avoid drinking.

I'm going to miss Brad if he's really gone for good.

Drew has become one of the most 'hate to watch' villains on this show in a long time.

Willow is even more of an idiot than she was yesterday. if she's so worried about losing her kids, don't appear on the press conference as Drew's loving significant other.

Why is Isaiah being such a fool about Willow and Drew? It's making him look much less attractive.

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Oh, Willow. But I hope Willow figures out Portia had something to do with the drugging. Portia's talk was so out of place it should ring some warning bells.

On the blame scale, does Dante blame Jason more than he does Gio?

Sasha, lying about who the father of your baby is is a giant mistake; are you willing to accept the consequences when that info comes out?

And then there's Jason, telling Danny that brothers look out for each other: "That's what brothers do." Huh. Like you did with AJ? Jason saying he takes his responsibility for Danny seriously is a laugh. He jets off to wherever at a moment's notice. Checking in every night isn't exactly keeping a close watch. Maybe ground him for a week or so to make a point? 

Why is Dante still harping on Gio's "bad" decision-making? (I know why.) Has Dante even talked to Rocco yet? Has he given Cody the heartfelt thanks Cody deserves?

At least we've been spared Olivia in this (so far).

3 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I'm going to miss Brad if he's really gone for good.

Same. Parry Shen is so good, even if Brad is kind of pathetic.

Drew saying he's going to take down Portia on his timetable made me groan. Give her a taste now of what can happen, at least.

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OMG--Dante, he drank too much, he didn't do heroin.  I get that he was scared, but he is over the top.  My mom (who could be president of the temperance league) wasn't that bad when I came home drunk.  I get the initial reaction, but he is still running around town saying Gio is at fault, Danny is at fault, Jason is at fault.  Get it a rest

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Bringonthedrama

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43 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Jason to Danny: "You have to look out for Rocco. That's what brothers do."

Me: Really Jason? Is that what you did for AJ?

35 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

And then there's Jason, telling Danny that brothers look out for each other: "That's what brothers do." Huh. Like you did with AJ?

Jason saying he takes his responsibility for Danny seriously is a laugh. He jets off to wherever at a moment's notice. Checking in every night isn't exactly keeping a close watch. Maybe ground him for a week or so to make a point? 

Since this incident involved alcohol, was he thinking of when he was in the car accident with AJ (trying to stop him from drunk driving) that made him change from Jason Quartermaine to Jason Morgan? Yes, I know he doesn't remember prior to waking up in the hospital, but he knows the facts of what happened and why he got in the car.

It's not surprising that from his perspective, he is taking responsibility for Danny seriously. He moved back into the Q mansion where his son lives and turned down Sonny's request that he take over the biz. For a guy who spent little to no time with Danny when he was a child and then let him think he was dead for more than two years, that is a big deal to go from absentee parent to "present/devoted dad." Fathers who genuinely know what it means to take fatherhood seriously and be devoted to their children in a healthy way, would likely say what Jason has done is the bare minimum of what his kid deserves.

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YaddaYadda

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30 minutes ago, blondiek237 said:

I get the initial reaction, but he is still running around town saying Gio is at fault, Danny is at fault, Jason is at fault.  Get it a rest

The only person who isn't at fault is Rocco. 

Rocco almost died seems like the justification to not get pissed at him.

When Sam caught Danny drinking, she acted, Dante told Jason. But what about you, Dante? Your son drank so much that he had alcohol poisoning. Are you going to act? Or are you just going to scream at people you think are responsible for your son's actions?

Asking for a friend.

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Dante needs counseling.  He's angry with Danny for putting Rocco at risk; he's angry with Jason for not being a more hands-on parent to Danny; he's angry that Jason didn't get angry enough with Danny, and didn't punish Danny enough, or at all, as though exacting retribution would somehow be better than having actually gotten the kid to see and own the error of his ways.  Mostly, I think Dante is frustrated.  He's been in a quasi-parental role with Danny both through his time living with Sam, and now at the Qs, he can see the kid is a risk-taker, and yet he's felt no permission to act fully as a parent.  I won't be surprised if this incident becomes the excuse for Dante to leave the Qs and for Rocco to move in full time with Lulu.

I thought both Sasha's and Jason's talks with Danny were good, even as I rolled my eyes at who was giving the poor kid advice.  

Nice to see you, Liz.  Where's Lucky?

Don't like that they have Tracy cozying up to Sidwell.  She's smarter than that.

 

 

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statsgirl

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It's ironic (hypocritical?) that Dante brings up to Jason that when Sam found Danny drunk she set down rules for him as something that Jason needs to do too for Danny but Dante himself has done nothing to discipline Rocco as Sam did Danny when he did the same thing Rocco just did.

11 hours ago, CeChase said:

Gio was right when he said that what Dante revealed is that he has no respect for Gio at all.  So I disagree that Gio should be like bygones. 

For all that Dante is yelling that Gio has been coddled, it wouldn't be surprising if Gio felt unsure of his position. He doesn't have parents who will defend him as Dante is defending Rocco and he is living with the Quartermaines dependent on their good will. Since Dante is Lois' son, Gio may be worried that this could get him kicked out for being a bad influence on Rocco.

2 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

It's not surprising that from his perspective, he is taking responsibility for Danny seriously. He moved back into the Q mansion where his son lives and turned down Sonny's request that he take over the biz.

Is Jason doing as much for Danny as he did for Michael, Morgan or Joss, especially when Carly was single? That's my metric.

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sashabear21

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Dante needs to calm down and the writers need to realize that not all parent/child reveals need to happen when the unknown parent and child have an antagonistic relationship.  Dante being angry with the Cerillo women when the reveal happens is justified but this story making him irrationally angry at Gio is just monumentally stupid.  Rocco isn't a child and Dante running around blaming everyone because his teenage son did something dumb and dangerous is just out of character. The writers are attempting very poorly to write this like it's the episode of Shameless where everyone was partying and didn't notice that the toddler got into the cocaine, but it's hardly the same thing (and Gio is no Fiona Gallagher!).  

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Had to laugh at Sonny telling Dante how you can't always keep your kids safe. Yeah, especially if you are shooting them point blank or getting them blown up!

Sensitive speeches aside, Jason is a shit parent if by no other measure than HE IS A HIT MAN FOR THE MOB.  

Great, they send away the one villian I like in Brad and leave us with Drew, Sonny, Natalia, Sidwell, Portia, Brenan, Kristina, et. al.

 

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Perkie

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23 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

accessory to manslaughter

This is Dr Google's definition: 

someone who, knowing a person has committed an offence, helps them escape or get away with it, according to Section 23 of the Criminal Code. This includes aiding in the disposal of a body, hiding evidence, or providing assistance to someone who is fleeing, even if they didn't directly participate in the crime. 

 

Sorry Dante, neither Gio or Danny fall into that category....especially since no one is dead and all.  

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KerleyQ

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You can definitely tell Dante and Kristina are related, can't you?  

And, I get it, I'm a parent. Getting that "your kid is in the hospital" call is what every parent fears. I can totally get the fear and anger Dante's feeling.  But teenagers do stupid shit. Thankfully, his teenager's stupid shit did not end up actually killing him.  And for all of Dante's talk about Gio being coddled, Dante isn't exactly bringing the hammer down on Rocco, the one who ultimately made the decision to go with his brother to a party and to drink.  That's not on Gio.  It's not on Danny, even though the party was his idea. Rocco still agreed to go, and Rocco still started drinking when Danny wasn't even near him. Rocco has admitted responsibility, but Dante still wants to run all over town accusing Danny, Jason, Gio, and the entire Cerullo family of almost killing his son. Instead of, you know, spending time with that son he almost lost. 

Drew sucks, absolutely, but in Drew vs. Portia, I'm still rooting harder against Portia.  

Willow, honey, you're fully aware that, even though Drew is out there proclaiming he was drugged, it's still not a good look for you in a custody case. So, pray tell, why in the ever loving bluedilly fuck did you go out there and stand at his side for that press conference?  All of your handwringing about how it could hurt your case is pointless when you're making the choices you're making. Even if you fully believe Drew was drugged, you need to put your kids first. You should have moved, at least temporarily, back in with Nina. You should not be appearing at Drew's side.  If the media asks about you, Drew can tell them that you're protecting your children from the media shitstorm. 

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Bringonthedrama

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59 minutes ago, KerleyQ said:

It's not on Danny, even though the party was his idea. Rocco still agreed to go, and Rocco still started drinking when Danny wasn't even near him. Rocco has admitted responsibility, but Dante still wants to run all over town accusing Danny, Jason, Gio, and the entire Cerullo family of almost killing his son. Instead of, you know, spending time with that son he almost lost. 

Danny also put the first cup of alcohol in Rocco's hands. Rocco started drinking it when he was acting nervous because he was so uncomfortable being there. Then he participated in the drinking game (off-screen) when Danny wasn't near him. Does Dante know the details? I saw the scene where he told Laura a few details but I missed it if Rocco told his dad everything.

Dante and the three kids really need therapy or family counseling. In 14 months (early March 2024 to early May 2025), Dante got (nearly fatally) shot, Danny's presumed dead father returned, Dante's fiance/Danny and Scout's mom died suddenly and then it turned out she was murdered, Dante's ex-wife/Rocco's mom returned to their lives after a 4-year coma, the boys essentially lost their relationship with Scout because her selfish father took her away from the Q mansion and is very controlling, Rocco got his sister back, and now Rocco is in the hospital with alcohol poisoning. That's a lot of stress and upheaval for Dante as an adult, let alone a couple of teenage boys and a little girl.

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Suicidy 2.0

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On 5/7/2025 at 7:54 AM, Sake614 said:

I dunno. I think it’s a good idea to drill home the consequences of drinking, be it underage or not. Rocco had zero experience with booze and got sucked into a drinking game with college kids. Chances are he downed a lot more than a pint of alcohol. That’s the point of drinking games—to see who can drink the most and stay on their feet. It’s a stupid idea born from stupid kids, and yes it absolutely can lead to death. Of course in this case, we all know the only reason he got so sick is to bring out the ‘big reveal’ that Gio is Dante’s son. But overall, I have no problem with the story. What I do have a problem with is that Joss will skate when she could have put an end the evening before it started. She’ll find out in the morning, tell Carly she saw Danny and Carly will say ‘it’s not your fault, you couldn’t have known what would happen.’ Or words to that effect.

How many people did you k ow that got serious cases of alcohol poisoning?  I’m the only one I know from high school, and I basically just had a two day hangover.  It just doesn’t happen very often, and when it does it’s usual,y not,I’ve threatening,  this was just ham fisted writing by people incapable of much creativity. Accuracy, or nuance.

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Perkie

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9 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Yes, Olivia's son and thus has the power to kick him out of her home.

It's Monica's home.  Alan gave it to her!!

 

Gio bares zero responsibility here.   Danny gets 50% for dragging Rocco to go and then abandoning him for cute girls.   Rocco gets the other 50% for drinking.  He could have left at any time.  How did they get to the party?  Uber?  Then call an Uber and go home, but instead he stayed and continued to drink.  

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16 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

 

Drew saying he's going to take down Portia on his timetable made me groan. Give her a taste now of what can happen, at least.

We've had  several flashbacks of Drew remembering his meeting with Tracy, and he was speaking directly to her yesterday when he said he was going to get even. He knows that Portia got the ketamine, but it's possible we're going to learn that Drew thinks Tracy is responsible for drugging him and will launch a revenge plot against them that will blow up in some terrible way -- maybe at the Nurses'  Ball?

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GHScorpiosRule

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This FUCKING SHOW, I swear. And Fucking Frank and Korte, VanWhat'shisFace and everyone involved in this ridonkulous, makes no sense of making Dante bonkers.

There was NO NEED to do this to Dante. NONE. Hell, I thought that plotty plot point of racism when Valerie? Was that her name? You know, Pat Spencer's kid, who joined the Key Stone Cops, A.K.A. PCPD, when they had Dante and her have a fling, was horrid. This is much worse.

Show is acting as if someone spiked Rocco's punch, multiple times, without him knowing.

Dante going around blaming everyone BUT Rocco is aggravating. Just so when the stoopid REVEAL of HISSON happens, he can than apologize and grovel for Gio's forgiveness. And the Gio actor is just not good enough to handle that kind of material. He looks ridiculous with the heavy breathing, furrowed brows and whatever he's doing with his eyes right now.

I mean, that surely wasn't an anvil where Dante said he couldn't "STAND IT" if he "lost HISSON" was it? Dinna fash yerself, Dante, ye have a spare in the wings.

And just HOW did Jaysus know about AJ's drinking and becoming an alcoholic at 14ish? Jason QUARTERMAINE would have those memories. But not MobHitman Jaysus MORGAN. The only knowledge he has that came to him instinctively, was knowing how to do a tracheostomy on Nik when Nik got shot in the neck all those years ago.

At this point (and I know I'm doomed for disappointment), I'm hoping to see a Robin cameo at the Nurses Ball, along with the return of Robert.

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Daisy

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5 hours ago, Suicidy 2.0 said:

How many people did you k ow that got serious cases of alcohol poisoning?  I’m the only one I know from high school, and I basically just had a two day hangover.  It just doesn’t happen very often, and when it does it’s usual,y not,I’ve threatening,  this was just ham fisted writing by people incapable of much creativity. Accuracy, or nuance.

It would probably depend on how a person's body processes alcohol period combined on how much one drank in a short period of time.  I'm not going to defend the writing here it sucks, but just because you [general you] could drink a lot and not get sick doesn't mean someone couldn't drink an equal amount and be overwhelmed by it. 

4 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And just HOW did Jaysus know about AJ's drinking and becoming an alcoholic at 14ish? Jason QUARTERMAINE would have those memories. But not MobHitman Jaysus MORGAN. The only knowledge he has that came to him instinctively, was knowing how to do a tracheostomy on Nik when Nik got shot in the neck all those years ago.

 

 

I would have to assume that Jason Morgan would know Emily would have known and it's not like they wouldn't have talked about it (off screen etc). or discuss it with Monica etc.  this wouldn't be a wtf how? As craptacular as Jason is i would assume he does know (via being told) about his family's history etc through various points in time. 

(but with this show. who knows)

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Bringonthedrama

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7 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And just HOW did Jaysus know about AJ's drinking and becoming an alcoholic at 14ish? Jason QUARTERMAINE would have those memories. But not MobHitman Jaysus MORGAN. 

He didn't say AJ became an alcoholic at 14; he told Danny that AJ started drinking when he was "a few years older than you" and his choices hurt people. Jason knows that young AJ was an alcoholic and he knows the facts that they were in car wreck together (that damaged his own brain) and why. I thought he was remembering the aftermath of the accident and years following that, Emily, Monica, Alan, etc. being emotionally wrecked over it all. 

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GHScorpiosRule

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7 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

He didn't say AJ became an alcoholic at 14; he told Danny that AJ started drinking when he was "a few years older than you" and his choices hurt people.

He also said "drank heavily" at your age or something, which I just took as code for alcoholic. Still, he was talking as if he knew/was aware, when he no longer has those memories, even if he remembers his brain meeting the tree.

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dubbel zout

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14 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

LOL, so now Dante is going to have Danny charged with "accessory to manslaughter?"  Who died?  Oh, Dante.

WTF is that threat? I don't know if Danny can be charged with even underage drinking. Get a grip, Dante. 

11 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

in Drew vs. Portia, I'm still rooting harder against Portia.  

Same, though as I wrote earlier, I really want Drew to start following through on his threats to blow up her life. Otherwise it's bluster and noise going nowhere fast.

15 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Still, [Jason] was talking as if he knew/was aware, when he no longer has those memories, even if he remembers his brain meeting the tree.

Jason might not have native memories, as it were, but it's been, what, 30 years since the accident? Of course he's going to have learned the details over that time. The Qs were not shy about telling him how he wrecked the family.

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YaddaYadda

6 hours ago, Perkie said:

Rocco gets the other 50% for drinking. 

I disagree. Rocco gets 100% of the blame for drinking. When they got to the party, Danny told him that he didn't have to drink, to just hold the glass in his hand and pretend.

When Jason asked Danny if he had alcohol, Danny said he only had punch. 

I get that Rocco is an introvert and was very uncomfortable, but he could have gone with Danny or gone to find him at any moment. Instead he got shit-faced.

I hope Lulu remembers that Danny's mother lost her life to save hers when she is setting those "boundaries."

The only person who doesn't seem to need boundaries is Rocco.

Frankly, I think that the writing totally sucks for how they handled the relationship between the kids post-Sam's death. These kids consider themselves siblings, now Dante is talking about keeping the boys from each other, like it's not enough that Scout has been separated from them.

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Melgaypet

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Poor Dante. Turned into a fool for the sake of contrived drama that won't actually lead anywhere once the reveal happens.

An irrational lashing out at first would have made sense and been a recognizably human reaction. A continuing grudge? You can see the hands of the writers on the strings.

Because I am much better at irrational grudges than Dante, I blame Lois. See what hiding the truth about babies leads to, you ridiculous bitca?

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dubbel zout

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29 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Dante is talking about keeping the boys from each other

Which we all know is the way to absolutely guarantee they will find a way to get together. Come on, Dante. You know this!

22 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Hey now, let's be fair: Lulu was only letting him have vanilla ice cream, which he hates. /sarcasm

I loved Laura whispering to him that she'd try to sneak in some rocky road ice cream. That's coddling I can get behind, ha!

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